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PLOT-IT
Public Led Online Trials
Amy Price Amanda Burls and Su May Liew
PLOT-IT AIMS
Amy Price Amanda Burls and Su May Liew
Public Led Online Trials
Amy Price Amanda Burls and Su May Liew
Ways the Public Collaborates
With PLOT-IT
PLOT
Prioritize
choose, supply
Research
Questions
Living
Systematic
Review
Project
Planning,
Recruiting
Steering
group, Peer
Advocacy,
Crowd-source
Teaching &
Funding
Design,
Develop &
Test Platform
and Protocol
Analyse,
interpret and
disseminate
How Participants Can Help
Amy Price Amanda Burls and Su May Liew
ThinkWell
Application Requires Preparation
The application of
what we know already will
have a bigger impact on health
and disease than any drug or
technology likely to be
introduced in the next decade.
Sir Muir Gray.
Amy Price Amanda Burls and Su May Liew
How Learning Changes Function
The world will not
evolve past its current
state of crisis by using
the same thinking that
created the situation.
- Albert Einstein,
scientist (1879-
1955)
1 2
Amy Price Amanda Burls and Su May Liew
The Public Speaks
The first thing we need is a list of those things that make people feel
powerless and a set of limited achievable objects to start removing
the barriers to people taking control of the health science process.
Amy Price Amanda Burls and Su May Liew
What I learned From Qualitative Research
Shame slows the Train
Amy Price Amanda Burls and Su May Liew
Paralyzed By Shame & Not Lack of Information
The miracle is not that I finished but that I had the courage to start J
Bingham
Amy Price Amanda Burls and Su May Liew
Understand Behavior
Amy Price Amanda Burls and Su May Liew
The Public Helping Themselves
Can Methods Mentoring Help?
Amy Price Amanda Burls and Su May Liew
Perspective Matters
It doesn’t have to be comfortable to work
Amy Price Amanda Burls and Su May Liew
Pattern recognition can float your boat
or sink your ship
Behavior is more than knowledge
Amy Price Amanda Burls and Su May Liew
Quality Clinical Trials Online
By the people for the people:
Amy Price Amanda Burls and Su May Liew
Does drinking water reduce
headaches?
Join study My data Contact usLearn more
H2O Study
ThinkWell
Amy Price Amanda Burls and Su May Liew
Where The Public Decides Research Priorities
DO IT TOGETHER YOUR WAY!
Choose
topic
Hands
On
learning
Do The
Research
• Bio-
Feedback for
Pain
• Aging
without
Alzheimer’s
Disease
• Drinking
water is it a
weight loss
tool?
Amy Price Amanda Burls and Su May Liew
We find solutions together
Amy Price Amanda Burls and Su May Liew
Tell us about you
Trial
information
Consent
Tasks
What’s in it for me
Consent for observational data, no randomization
yet Each layer separate sections
Amy Price Amanda Burls and Su May Liew
1
2
4
3
5
7
6
8
Should we drink
extra water?
And if so, how
much? Join in
research
to find
out!
You expressed interest
in headaches
and drinking extra water
Amy Price Amanda Burls and Su May
Liew
Amy Price Amanda Burls and Su May Liew
NHS
CHOICESNHS
CHOICESNHS
CHOICESNHS
CHOICESNHS
CHOICES
Email
details
Complete
24 hrs 48 hrs
.5
1
5 76 8
Join in
research
to find
out!
How much water do I drink?
2
2
2
1
3 4
1 3 4
Forgot? Drink the extra
when you remember
=500ml
=120ml
=1L
=2L
Amy Price Amanda Burls and Su May Liew
Record fluid intake
Personal Dashboard
Record intake and report
outcomes
daily
Not done
Reminders
Day to Day Trial Activity
H2O For Headaches PLOT Flow Chart
Amy Price Amanda Burls and Su May Liew
The public is smart enough to master risk, odds and ethics while conducting
research. They have untapped potential for improving decision-making,
education, policy and advocacy. Join us to provide them with training and a
voice
24
The most under-realized resource is the participant.
Amy Price Amanda Burls and Su May Liew
Got Online Trials?
You can build them: We can help!
Amy Price Amanda Burls and Su May Liew
Find us at
http://ithinkwell.org
dr.amyprice@gmail.com
We Can Change Research Practice With Your Help!
Amy Price Amanda Burls and Su May Liew

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PLOT-IT FORCE2015

  • 1. PLOT-IT Public Led Online Trials Amy Price Amanda Burls and Su May Liew
  • 2. PLOT-IT AIMS Amy Price Amanda Burls and Su May Liew
  • 3. Public Led Online Trials Amy Price Amanda Burls and Su May Liew
  • 4. Ways the Public Collaborates With PLOT-IT PLOT Prioritize choose, supply Research Questions Living Systematic Review Project Planning, Recruiting Steering group, Peer Advocacy, Crowd-source Teaching & Funding Design, Develop & Test Platform and Protocol Analyse, interpret and disseminate How Participants Can Help Amy Price Amanda Burls and Su May Liew
  • 5. ThinkWell Application Requires Preparation The application of what we know already will have a bigger impact on health and disease than any drug or technology likely to be introduced in the next decade. Sir Muir Gray. Amy Price Amanda Burls and Su May Liew
  • 6. How Learning Changes Function The world will not evolve past its current state of crisis by using the same thinking that created the situation. - Albert Einstein, scientist (1879- 1955) 1 2 Amy Price Amanda Burls and Su May Liew
  • 7. The Public Speaks The first thing we need is a list of those things that make people feel powerless and a set of limited achievable objects to start removing the barriers to people taking control of the health science process. Amy Price Amanda Burls and Su May Liew
  • 8. What I learned From Qualitative Research Shame slows the Train Amy Price Amanda Burls and Su May Liew
  • 9. Paralyzed By Shame & Not Lack of Information The miracle is not that I finished but that I had the courage to start J Bingham Amy Price Amanda Burls and Su May Liew
  • 10. Understand Behavior Amy Price Amanda Burls and Su May Liew
  • 11. The Public Helping Themselves Can Methods Mentoring Help? Amy Price Amanda Burls and Su May Liew
  • 12. Perspective Matters It doesn’t have to be comfortable to work Amy Price Amanda Burls and Su May Liew
  • 13. Pattern recognition can float your boat or sink your ship Behavior is more than knowledge Amy Price Amanda Burls and Su May Liew
  • 14. Quality Clinical Trials Online By the people for the people: Amy Price Amanda Burls and Su May Liew
  • 15. Does drinking water reduce headaches? Join study My data Contact usLearn more H2O Study ThinkWell Amy Price Amanda Burls and Su May Liew
  • 16. Where The Public Decides Research Priorities DO IT TOGETHER YOUR WAY! Choose topic Hands On learning Do The Research • Bio- Feedback for Pain • Aging without Alzheimer’s Disease • Drinking water is it a weight loss tool? Amy Price Amanda Burls and Su May Liew
  • 17. We find solutions together Amy Price Amanda Burls and Su May Liew
  • 18. Tell us about you Trial information Consent Tasks What’s in it for me Consent for observational data, no randomization yet Each layer separate sections Amy Price Amanda Burls and Su May Liew
  • 19. 1 2 4 3 5 7 6 8 Should we drink extra water? And if so, how much? Join in research to find out! You expressed interest in headaches and drinking extra water Amy Price Amanda Burls and Su May Liew Amy Price Amanda Burls and Su May Liew
  • 21. .5 1 5 76 8 Join in research to find out! How much water do I drink? 2 2 2 1 3 4 1 3 4 Forgot? Drink the extra when you remember =500ml =120ml =1L =2L Amy Price Amanda Burls and Su May Liew
  • 22. Record fluid intake Personal Dashboard Record intake and report outcomes daily Not done Reminders Day to Day Trial Activity
  • 23. H2O For Headaches PLOT Flow Chart Amy Price Amanda Burls and Su May Liew
  • 24. The public is smart enough to master risk, odds and ethics while conducting research. They have untapped potential for improving decision-making, education, policy and advocacy. Join us to provide them with training and a voice 24 The most under-realized resource is the participant. Amy Price Amanda Burls and Su May Liew
  • 25. Got Online Trials? You can build them: We can help! Amy Price Amanda Burls and Su May Liew Find us at http://ithinkwell.org dr.amyprice@gmail.com
  • 26. We Can Change Research Practice With Your Help! Amy Price Amanda Burls and Su May Liew