2. Introduction
What is Tristate Mixer?
What is National Payment Relief?
Who is Rosalie Bucci?
Who is Alberto Artasanchez?
3. Questions
What is your question or
challenge?
What are your goals?
Performing
Non-performing – not paying
Just learning
4. Overview
? What is a note, what is a mortgage?1
What are performing notes and how can you profit from them2
What are non-performing notes and how can you profit from them3
Case studies4
5. Terminology
An IOU, a note and a mortgage
IOU – An acknowledgement of debt.
Note – An acknowledgement of debt with specific
terms.
Mortgage – A mortgage secures or ties a Note to real
property and is made by the borrower to the lender
pledging the property until the note is paid in full. In
some states referred to as Deed of Trust
Secured debt vs. unsecured debt – Car loan, home
loan, student loans, credit cards.
6. Types of Notes
Note Types
Performing note vs. Non-performing
Secured vs. Unsecured
Commercial vs. Residential
Owner occupied vs. Investment properties
1st mortgages vs. 2nd mortgages and beyond
Who would buy a second?
Who would buy a non-performing note?
7. The Banks
Banks are distressed sellers now
What is a Non Performing Note?
Why Banks want to sell?
Why 2nd Liens;
Lower price points
Purchase more and spread out risk
Make better returns once performing
9. Mortgage Note Investing
What do you look for in an
investment?
Secure – Secured by real estate
Income producing – Payments are received monthly
Appreciation – Payoffs, Equity build up, Underlying
asset appreciation, Inflationary appreciation
10. Benefits of 1st Mortgages
Benefits of performing 1st
mortgage notes
Passive Income
Secured by Real Estate
Average sale price $100k to 500k
Return on investment from 5 to 10%
Purchase in an IRA
11. Benefits of 2nd Mortgages
Benefits of performing 2nd
mortgage notes
Passive Income
Secured by Real Estate
Average sale price as low as $10k to 50k
Return on investment from 10 to 30%
Purchase in an IRA
14. Risks
Risks of performing notes
Homeowner could stop paying 1st
Homeowner could stop paying 2nd
Home values could go down
Home owner could declare bankruptcy
Home owner could get an attorney
15. Winners and Losers
Who wins and who loses in note
investing?
Banks. Hedge funds. NPN Sellers
Workout companies
Homeowners
Servicers
Performing note buyers
16. Due Diligence
What to find out before buying?
Are other obligations current?
What is the FMV?
Is all the collateral complete and original?
Is the note seller reputable? What are their reps and
warrants?
When can I skip or minimize the due diligence?
17. Note Analysis
How to value a note
Get the value of the property
Determine the unpaid balance on the first mortgage
Calculate fair market equity (FME)
Find the status of the first mortgage
Pull the homeowner’s credit report
Research payment history
20. Note Value Example 1
How much would you for this
note?
FMV – $200,000
1st mortgage UPB - $350,000 – not performing
2nd mortgage UPB - $100,000 – not performing
Borrower FICO – 550
Foreclosure started by 1st mortgage in 6 months.
How much would you pay for the 2nd mortgage?
21. Note Value Example 2
How much would you for this
note?
FMV – $500,000
1st mortgage UPB - $150,000 – always current
2nd mortgage UPB - $50,000 – always current
Borrower FICO – 800
Face interest 19%. Seasoned for 36 months
How much would you pay for the 2nd mortgage?
22. Due Diligence
What to do after buying a
performing note?
Is the first mortgage being paid?
Are taxes being paid?
Is the home owner paying all other bills?
23. Due Diligence
What to do before buying a non-
performing note?
Obtain 800 number
Ability to pull credit
Skip tracing. locateplus
Find a mentor
Get a website. Who is your audience?
10 notes vs. 100 notes vs. 1000 notes
24. Servicing companies
What is a servicer? Why should I
use a servicer? What are the fees?
Compliance
Outsource management
Simple ownership transfer
$12 – $20 per month per performing note
FCI Lender Services
25. Winners and Losers
Who wins and who loses in note
investing?
Banks. Hedge funds. NPN Sellers
Workout companies
Homeowners
Servicers
Performing note buyers
26. Cumberland Case Study
Fact Pattern
Maurice and Madeline are an elderly couple living in Cumberland, Rhode Island. He is 65, she is 64.
A few years ago he lost his job as a funeral director. His wife is on disability.
In 2009 they got behind on a few bills including their 2nd mortgage. This is shown on their credit report.
They have since caught up on all their obligations and worked out a payment plan on their 1st MGT
He works delivering flowers and collects Social Security.
They have about $600 in discretionary Income.
In a few years, their credit score will be good enough to refinance and possibly a reverse mortgage.
Workout Agreement
$400 / mo. with automatic payment (ACH) deducted monthly by the note servicer and set up online. In
February 2012 that goes to $500.
What would you pay for this note?
Amount
Fair Market Value $190,000
1st Mortgage Principal Balance $106,000
Fair Market Equity $84,000
2nd Mortgage Principal Balance $25,000
2nd Mortgage Arrears & Fees $9,684
2nd Mortgage Monthly Payment $384.47
27. Athens Case Study
Fact Pattern
Fred and Susan lives in Athens, GA with their three kids
A few years ago Fred has had health issues and this has affected his business
They fell behind on obligations for several months as a result of this - this is evident on her credit report
By early 2009, they had caught up on their first mortgage but not on their second (classic case of the
bank not allowing a borrower to forebear the unpaid interest
They can now start making payments but not their regular 614.58 payment.
Workout Agreement
$503 / mo. with automatic payment (ACH) deducted monthly by the note servicer and set up online.
Payments could go down to $125.00/mo. for six months in the next two years for proven medical cause.
What would you pay for this note?
Amount
Fair Market Value $178,200
1st Mortgage Principal Balance $133,500
Fair Market Equity $44,700
2nd Mortgage Principal Balance $46,582
2nd Mortgage Arrears & Fees $13,581
2nd Mortgage Monthly Payment $614.58
28. Columbiana Case Study
Fact Pattern
John and Susan lives in Columbiana, AL with their three kids and her father
A few years ago John lost his job.
They fell behind on obligations for several months as a result of this - this is evident on his credit report
John tried to refinance his mortgages and had the credit to do it, but he was denied because he was in
default with his second mortgage. He is current on the first.
They can now start making payments and they have agreed to again start paying 250.00 per month.
Workout Agreement
$250 / mo. with automatic payment (ACH) deducted monthly by the note servicer and set up online.
Payments will go back to the regular monthly payment after one year. At that point John will also try
again to apply for a refinance. His chances will be greatly improved with 12 straight months of
payments on his second mortgage.
What would you pay for this note?
Amount
Fair Market Value $76,700
1st Mortgage Principal Balance $47,264
Fair Market Equity $29,436
2nd Mortgage Principal Balance $12,578
2nd Mortgage Arrears & Fees 8121
2nd Mortgage Monthly Payment $290.43
29. Note investment recommendations
Self directed IRA’s. CAMA Plan and
CAMA Academy
Legal issues and compliance. Using a
servicer will ensure you are complaint
Diversification. Notes are not directly
affected by any other securities such
stocks, bonds or other mortgages.
30. Sources
Where do I find these notes?
Accidently. Carry back a note (1st or 2nd) when selling
a property
Brokering a property. Henry Dvorek
Purchase a “carry back” or “owner financed” note
Banks (almost as hard as getting a mortgage)
Hedge funds
Exchanges (fciexchange.com, loanmls.com,
loanmarket.net)
31. Non-performing notes
How do I get a hold of
homeowners?
Letter campaign (vide0)
Phone campaign (FDCPA)
Email, online, Facebook (FDCPA)
Hand written letters
Foreclosure ($2000 to $4000, corporate advance)
32. Non-performing notes
What do I say when I get a hold
of the homeowner?
Framing. Who are you? What is your philosophy?
What happened?
Where are you now?
What do you want to do?
Based on what they want to do, go through options
Build rapport
Financials
Don’t speak
Give folks the benefit of the doubt
33. Financial Documents
What financial documentation
should the homeowner submit?
Tax returns
Pay stubs
Bank statements. Showing payment of first
Home owner option agreement
Hardship letter
Copy of the driver’s license
34. Workout repayment structure
How do I structure the payment?
Get a portion of the arrears
Discounted payoff
Principal reduction
Stepped up repayment
Address their pain based on your interview and
financials
Find out what they want to do
Modify terms
Get creative
Clause to revert to original terms if there is an issue
35. Worst case scenario
What is the worst that can
happen?
Applies for performing and non-performing
1st stops paying.
Reinstatement
Can’t reach home owner
Start foreclosure. Complete foreclosure
Sell the note. Note still has value.
2nd takes back the house.
Rent to the homeowner.
36. Exit Strategies
Owners Sell
An average household moves every 5 to 7 years
Owners Refinance
after 12 payments
Discounted Payoffs
From the homeowner, a friend or a relative
Sell to an Investor
Borrow against the note (CAA)
37. I am ready. How do I get started?
Capital – Not necessarily yours
Product – Not necessarily yours
Know-how
Scalability
38. More information
How do I find out more about
this?
Monthly meetings
http://www.tristatemixer.com/
http://www.meetup.com/Tristate-Note-Investors/
http://www.meetup.com/Philadelphia-Note-Investors-Group/
http://www.nationalpaymentrelief.com