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Great Sherlock Holmes Debate 2019
The Great Debate on May 25, 2019, featured discussions on various adaptations of Sherlock Holmes, including their fidelity to the original canon and the dynamics between Holmes and Watson. Panelists highlighted adaptations such as Granada's series, BBC's Sherlock, and others, noting both their successes and shortcomings in portraying the iconic characters. Fans were invited to vote on which adaptations they believe might have crossed the line in their interpretations until May 31, 2019.
Great Sherlock Holmes Debate 2019
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- 9. The Great Debate– The Lineup • Granada (Jeremy Brett) Bonnie MacBird • Elementary (Jonny Lee Miller, Lucy Liu Richard Ryan • Young Sherlock Holmes Amy Thomas • Basil Rathbone Dan Andriacco • Miss Sherlock (Japan) Derrick Belanger • The Private Life of Sherlock Holmes Janina Woods • Warner Brother Sherlock Holmes Mary Platt • Holmes and Watson (2018 – Will Ferrell) Mattias Bostrom • Denis Smith (Traditional Pastiches) David Marcum • BBC Sherlock Jay Ganguly • Hammer Sherlock Holmes Steven Philip Jones • The Great Mouse Detective Paul Hiscock • BBC TV 1964-65 Catherine Cooke
- 10. Panelist – BonnieMacBird •Mad about Holmes since age 10 •Author of 3 traditional Holmes novels for HarperCollins: ART IN THEBLOOD (2015), UNQUIET SPIRITS (2017), and THE DEVIL’S DUE – coming in October •Published in The Strand, and many anthologies •Former screenwriter,(TRON) studio executive, Emmy winning producer, actor, playwright •BSI, ASH, SHSL, etc. Founder of The Sherlock Breakfast Club in Los Angeles www.macbird.com @macbird
- 11. Granada – JeremyBrett • Jeremy Brett…and David Burke/Edward Hardwicke - stellar cast • Perfectly captured Holmes’ exuberance, theatricality, mercurial emotions, brilliance, power and vulnerability – and Watson’s love for his friend • Posh elegance, wit, humour • True to canon-especially early days • Victorian setting deliciously rendered Subtle, satisfying trip in time, with this unusual, posh, attractive, brave, vulnerable (bipolar?) character played by an unusual, posh, attractive, brave, vulnerable bipolar actor. With flair.
- 12. Panelist – RichardRyan • New Yorker Richard Ryan is an editor and a writer of Holmes fiction • Award winning Holmes pastiches ‘Vatican Cameos’, ‘Stone of Destiny’, ’Druid of Death’. • His fourth novel ‘Merchant of Menace’ is published in September 2019 Richard with Lee Child who endorsed his novel ‘Vatican Cameos’
- 13. Adaptation – Elementary •Holmes is quirky, still haunted, still socially awkward, but still gifted with keen observational and deductive powers. • The show takes static elements from the Holmes back catalogue and wraps its plots around those elements, resulting in a synthesis of sorts. • Elementary simply requisitions the necessary pieces for any given episode and then deploys on a more familiar board. • the writing is tight, the acting is flawless and the relationship between Holmes and Watson is perhaps the most human of any of the various iterations.
- 14. Panelist – AmyThomas • Member of the Baker Street Babes Podcast. • Author of The Detective and The Woman Series. • 221b Con Young Sherlock Holmes panelist. www.girlmeetssherlock.wordpress.com
- 15. Adaptation – YoungSherlock Holmes • Holmes’s early life has always been a topic of wide speculation. • Films that portray Holmes as a child or teenager make him more accessible to a new demographic. • Essential character qualities and relational dynamics are preserved. • Serves as an alternate universe entry point for children into the lifelong pursuit of Sherlock Holmes.
- 16. Panelist – DanAndriacco • Author of 15 books in the mystery genre • Works include pastiches and other fiction featuring Sherlock Holmes and his world • Articles published in 10 Sherlockian journals • Most Scandalous Member (leader) of the Tankerville Club scion society • Program director for the Holmes, Doyle, & Friends annual symposium • Frequent speaker at Sherlockian gatherings www.danandriacco.com
- 17. Adaptation – BasilRathbone • The first Sherlock Holmes for two generations of Sherlockians. • He looks like Holmes. • He sounds like Holmes. • He acts like Holmes. • Starrett called him “unforgettable.” And therefore, despite the regrettable quality of some of the later films, BASIL IS BEST and certainly doesn’t go too far.
- 18. Panelist – DerrickBelanger • Sherlock Holmes author and publisher (Belanger Books) • Only publisher licensed to release the original and new Solar Pons books • #1 best sellers include Sherlock Holmes: The Adventure of the Peculiar Provenance, Sherlock Holmes: The Adventure of the Primal Man, Attack of the Violet Vampire, and A Study in Terror Volumes 1 and 2. www.belangerbooks.com https://www.amazon.com/Derrick- Belanger/e/B00LG13FY0 This Photo by Rhea Belanger is licensed under CC BY-NC-ND
- 19. Adaptation – MissSherlock • Brilliant Update – 21st century Japan • Canonical • Modern, but respectful • Great cast And therefore… Miss Sherlock does NOT Go too far in its adaptation of Sherlock Holmes!
- 20. Panelist – JaninaWoods • Game Designer • Virtual & Augmented Reality Developer • German, living in Switzerland • Writing historical crime & scifi • Mycroft Holmes series https://www.amazon.com/gp/bookseries/B07FH7XQS1/
- 21. Adaptation – ThePrivate Life of Sherlock Holmes • Captures the comedic tone of the canon • A strong woman besides Irene Adler: Gabrielle Valladon • Explores Holmes’ and Watson’s sexuality • Shows Holmes as a spectacular failure • Gives Mycroft a more active role, but shows that even he is fallible • Every main character has failed • Makes everyone appear very human The film is a great addendum to the canon, showing the characters not as a new interpretation but rather with more depth and humanity.
- 22. Panelist – MaryPlatt • That’s me on the left. Not sure who that guy is. • Co-leader of Sherlock Breakfast Club, Los Angeles BSI scion society. • Sherlock Holmes blogger and essayist published in two recent books by the Baker Street Babes and Studious Scarlets Society. • Working on book on the RDJ Holmes movies. • Arts/entertainment journalist published in the Los Angeles Times, Orange County Register, Art of the Times, etc. • @maryaplatt Tumblr: hedgehog-goulash7
- 23. Adaptation – WarnerBros/RDJ Sherlock Holmes • Loving, respectful tribute to canon • Capable and smart Watson • Stellar production values • Downey’s heartfelt Holmes • Action-adventure genre – it works! Two global blockbusters (and a third on the way!) that focus on all the reasons Doyle called his stories “adventures.”
- 24. Panelist – MattiasBostrom • Author of the non-fiction book From Holmes to Sherlock: The Story of the Men and Women Who Created an Icon • Winner of Agatha Award, finalist for Edgar Award, Anthony Award, Macavity Award, etc. • Monthly podcast Talk About Sherlock • Main editor of the book series Sherlock Holmes and Conan Doyle in the Newspapers • Lives outside Stockholm, Sweden with wife and two gorgeous daughters Link to www.mattiasbostrom.se
- 25. Adaptation – Holmesand Watson • Of course it went too far – that’s the whole idea! • It’s not a Sherlock Holmes film, but a SILLY Sherlock Holmes film, and must be seen as that • Silliness was what made Holmes a popular culture icon in the 1890s – we have nowadays gone too far in making Holmes too non-silly! • The film has a lovely Watson, an unexpectedly believable Holmes, and it’s a warm film with plot twists that are great – in its own silly boundaries
- 26. Panelist – DavidMarcum • Sherlockian Author, Editor, and Essayist: The Papers of Sherlock Holmes; Sherlock Holmes and A Quantity of Debt; Sherlock Holmes: Tangled Skeins, The Papers of Solar Pons, etc. • Creator and Editor: The MX Book of New Sherlock Holmes Stories, etc. • Married 31 years with one son • Civil Engineer in eastern Tennessee, USA • Collector, reader, and chronologicizer of thousands of Traditional Canonical Pastiches for over forty years • Plays The Game with deadly seriousness . . . . • MEMBER: The Sherlock Holmes Society of London, The Nashville Scholars of the Three Pipe Problem, The Occupants of the Full House, The Diogenes Club of Washington, D.C., The Tankerville Club, The Sherlock Holmes Society of India, The Praed Street Irregulars, The Solar Pons Society of London, and The Diogenes Club West (East Tennessee Annex) Amazon Author Page: https://www.amazon.com/David-Marcum/e/B00K1IKA92Website: Blog: A Seventeen Step Program http://17stepprogram.blogspot.com/ David Marcum beginning a Traditional Sherlock Holmes Pastiche in Sir Arthur Conan Doyle’s Study, Undershaw
- 27. Adaptation – TraditionalPastiches Traditional pastiches Sticking With The Original Holmes Can’t be Going Too Far • Traditional Canonical Pastiches Provide additional information the Original Sherlock Holmes • They are part of the Three-Legged Stool: • The Canon • Sherlockian Scholarship • New Adventures beyond The Original Sixty • Provides a path to the original Holmes for new Converts • Supplies more adventures for when the pitifully few sixty narratives of Canon are simply not enough. • Many people currently discover new adventures in Watson’s Tin Box – Some just one or two, others quite a few (see “Traditional Pasticheurs” List) • One author who has been doing it amazingly well before all of us . . . O. Smith Denis O. Smith – Master Pasticheur • First began writing pastiches in 1982 – Two years before the premiere Granada TV show • Has written 43 pastiches (so far – Fingers crossed for more!) • Originally in self-published chapbook format (5 volumes – Diogenes Press) • The Chronicles (4 volumes – Calabash Press) • The Lost Chronicles (2 volumes – Running Press and • A Novel and The Further Chronicles (MX Publishing) • A number of other appearances in various anthologies and magazines TRADITIONAL PASTICHEURS Hugh Ashton Deanna Baran Derrick Belanger S.F. Bennett Nick Cardillo Craig Stephen Copland The Davies Brothers Lyndsay Faye Jayantika Ganguly Paul D. Gilbert Dick Gillman Arthur Hall John Hall Mike Hogan Craig Janacek Bonnie MacBird David Marcum (That’s me!) Mark Mower Tracy Revels Roger Riccard Barrie Roberts Robert Stapleton Tim Symonds Donald Thomas June Thomson William Todd Daniel D. Victor Marcia Wilson And Many Others . . . . Denis O. Smith
- 28. Panelist – JayantikaGanguly (Jay) • Member, Baker Street Irregulars (Investiture: "The Great Agra Treasure") • General Secretary and Editor, Sherlock Holmes Society of India • Member, Sherlock Holmes Society of London • Member, Ceska spolecnost Sherlocka Holmese • Member, The Studious Scarlets Society Link to Amazon (author) profile: https://www.amazon.com/author/jayantikaganguly Website: http://www.sherlockholmessociety.in/
- 29. Adaptation – BBCSherlock • Captures the Holmes-Watson dynamics well • True to the spirit/essence of the Canon • Major characters retain definitive characteristics • Clever, subtle canonical references • Made by ardent Sherlockians: attention to detail and universally appealing • Pre-approved by the Sherlock Holmes Society of London And therefore, BBC Sherlock is the perfect sample of a modernised canon, and appeals to Sherlockian hearts!
- 30. Panelist – StevenPhilip Jones • Author of over 70 books, comics, and audio dramas • Holmes pastiches include graphic novels Adventure of the Opera Ghost and Dr Jekyll & Mr Holmes • Novels include Lovecraftian and King of Harlem • Author of Clive Cussler Adventures: A Critical Review www.stevenphilipjones.com
- 31. Adaptation – Hammer’sHound of the Baskervilles • Dramatically Right • It’s Really Watson! • Peter Cushing’s Holmes • It’s SHSOL approved! A solid, respectful, and just plain gorgeous adaptation of ACD’s Gothic classic.
- 32. Panelist – PaulHiscock • Author of crime, fantasy and science fiction stories • ‘The Clerkenwell Shadow’ in The MX Book of New Sherlock Holmes Stories Volume XIII • ‘The Deductive Man’ in Sherlock Holmes: Adventures in the Realms of Steampunk • ‘The Witchfinder’ in The Obverse Book of Detectives • and more… www.detectivesanddragons.uk
- 33. Adaptation – TheGreat Mouse Detective • A fitting challenge • Beneath the shadow of the master • From Baker Street to Big Ben • Deductions, disguises and daring do • A loyal companion and a ruthless villain This is a charming family film with surprising depth and a perfect way to introduce Sherlock Holmes to new generations.
- 34. Panelist – ThomasFortenberry • Currently resides in Charlotte, NC, • A Pushcart Prize-nominated author, editor, and former publisher of Mind Fire Press (both a literary arts magazine and books). He has been published in most styles and genres from fiction to nonfiction, comic books, poetry, and screen-/teleplays, though he prefers SF, adventure, and mystery. He has been a judge of numerous literary contests, including the Georgia Author of the Year Awards and the Robert Penn Warren Prize for Fiction. • He discovered Sherlock Holmes as a child, but did not begin writing original Holmes stories until 2015
- 35. Adaptation – DetectivePikachu • Holmes is the original detective, yet it is vital to have modern, far-reaching adaptations, (Great Mouse Detective to Star Trek: Next Generation Data) • Pikachu is derived from a Japanese game/media concept, geared towards children • Though the movie was not a direct retelling of SH, it effectively utilized the imagery of Sherlock Holmes and tropes of mystery. Like Cyberpunk (Bladerunner) it employed the style/atmosphere of noir to introduce mysteries to new generations in a new way. • The key to unlocking Mystery across cultures is symbolic: the deerstalker, the pipe, the silhouette. Iconic imagery works in any medium/genre/version.
- 36. Panelist – CatherineCooke • Joint Honorary Secretary, The Sherlock Holmes Society of London • Librarian, Westminster Libraries’ Sherlock Holmes Collection • BSI The Book of Life; ASH An Idler of the Empire • Regular contributor to Sherlockian books and journals • Winner of The Morley-Montgomery Award (BSI) and The Tony & Freda Howlett Literary Award (SHSL) https://trib.ent.sirsidynix.net.uk/client/en_GB/wcc/ ?rm=SHERLOCK+HOLMES0|||1|||0|||true&dt=list
- 37. Adaptation – BBCTelevision 1964-1965 • The first British Holmes television series • Redolent with atmosphere • Faithful to the text • Captured the essence of Holmes • Solid, believable Watson “Possibly the best and most accurate Sherlock Holmes ever” “The only actor who ever got it right”
- 38. In case youhaven’t guessed, we believe that “All Holmes is good Holmes” Any adaptation that brings new fans to the canon is a good thing. From Brett to Pokemon, Sherlock Holmes is the greatest character in history and long may that continue. However……… Summary
- 39. Until the 31stMay, it’s the fans turn to vote https://www.facebook.com/GreatSherlockHolmesDebate/ Let us know which adaptations you feel crossed the line (if any). Vote from 9.00 pm UK time 25th May until 31st May. Time To Vote