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Gemara Notes p. 14 גמרא דף נה עמוד ב
אמר ר '  מני בר פטיש : Who is the Tanna of our Mishna that holds that a “low level guarding” is good enough for a  מועד   type of damage? It could even be  ר '  מאיר : He would hold that  שן   and  רגל   of the Mishna are different than  קרן   because the Torah limited how much you have to guard from them It must be  ר '  יהודה ,  because our Mishna is discussing  מועד , just as he was How well does one have to guard his animal?  If the owner tied up his ox with a rein, or locked it up properly, and it escaped and damaged… What defines “properly” or “improperly”? A gate that can withstand a normal wind is considered locking up properly. A gate that could not withstand a normal wind is considered locking up improperly. תנו רבנן רבי יהודה   says: Minimal effort in guarding is enough by a  מועד . So if the animal was  מועד   the owner would be  פטור . But the owner of a  תם   must do extra guarding, and is  חייב . רבי אליעזר   says: The only way of really guarding it is with a knife רבי מאיר He must pay, whether it was  תם   or  מועד
The Rules of Guarding The Rules of Guarding מועד רבי אלעזר רבי יהודה רבי מאיר High level Guarding Low level Guarding רבי אלעזר רבי יהודה רבי מאיר מועד תם
רבה   says: The Mishna reads more precisely according to  רבי מאיר . All the previous Mishnayos gave examples of a  שור , why does this Mishna discuss sheep? It must be referring to  שן   and  רגל , but not  קרן ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],According to  ר '  מני … Our Mishna was discussing all cases of  מועד   damage According to the second explanation… Our Mishna applies to specifically  שן   and  רגל , but not  קרן It is learned from here that even though  שן   and  רגל   are  מועד   types of damage, the  מזיק   is only responsible to do a “low level” guarding שמע מינה

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  • 1. Gemara Notes p. 14 גמרא דף נה עמוד ב
  • 2. אמר ר ' מני בר פטיש : Who is the Tanna of our Mishna that holds that a “low level guarding” is good enough for a מועד type of damage? It could even be ר ' מאיר : He would hold that שן and רגל of the Mishna are different than קרן because the Torah limited how much you have to guard from them It must be ר ' יהודה , because our Mishna is discussing מועד , just as he was How well does one have to guard his animal? If the owner tied up his ox with a rein, or locked it up properly, and it escaped and damaged… What defines “properly” or “improperly”? A gate that can withstand a normal wind is considered locking up properly. A gate that could not withstand a normal wind is considered locking up improperly. תנו רבנן רבי יהודה says: Minimal effort in guarding is enough by a מועד . So if the animal was מועד the owner would be פטור . But the owner of a תם must do extra guarding, and is חייב . רבי אליעזר says: The only way of really guarding it is with a knife רבי מאיר He must pay, whether it was תם or מועד
  • 3. The Rules of Guarding The Rules of Guarding מועד רבי אלעזר רבי יהודה רבי מאיר High level Guarding Low level Guarding רבי אלעזר רבי יהודה רבי מאיר מועד תם
  • 4.