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EVOLUTION OF LIMB SALVAGE
TECHNICS & WHERE THEY ARE
GOING : FROM AMPUTATION
TO BYPASS TO ENDOVASC Rx

FRANK J. VEITH

SITE - 2013
BARCELONA – MAY 9, 2013
THE PAST
OLD HISTORY
IN THE 1960s &1970s
SURGEONS CARED FOR CLI
DEFINED AS
REST PAIN, GANGRENE, ULCERATION

STANDARD Rx AMPUTATION
MORE HISTORY
IN THE LATE 1960s

WE BEGAN
TO CHALLENGE
THAT STANDARD
(AMPUTATION)
UNUSUALLY
EXCELLENT
ARTERIOGRAPHY

1971

83 YO DIABETIC
GANGRENOUS TOE
BYPASS
10 YEARS OFLIMB
SALVAGE

POSTERIOR
TIBIAL
FIRST TO PUSH
LIMB SALVAGE
SURGERY &
VERY AGGRESSIVE
APPROACH TO LS
(WITH BYP & PTA)
MY BACKGROUND
STANDARD VASC SURGEON &
ENDOVASCULAR ADVOCATE
•  1978 – LIMB SALVAGE & ILIAC PTA
•  1988 – TIBIAL PTA; LATER SIPTA
•  1992 – 1ST US EVAR WITH PARODI
MARIN, SCHONHOLZ
& FIRST TO PUSH
REDO BYP OR PTA
ST BYP OR
WHEN 1
PTA FAILED
OR WAS FAILING
- UNUSUAL APPROACHES
TO HELP
MOST OF OUR PATIENTS
WERE DIABETIC ( > 70%)
HENCE RELEVANCE
TO DIABETIC FOOT
CARE – CURRENT FAD
ONE EXAMPLE
1978

78 YO DIABETIC
AMP RECOM AT 3
NYC HOSPITALS
NO SAPHENOUS V
ASV PT BYPASS
ANGIO AFTER 4 YRS
LIMB SALVAGE 6 YRS
EXTENSIVE
FOOT & HEEL
GANGRENE
AFTER ANT TIB
BYPASS &
DEBRIDEMENT
& EXCISION OF
ACHILLES
TENDON
WALKING
6 YEARS
LATER
FIRST TO DO
VEIN BYPASSES
TO VERY DISTAL
PEDAL ARTERY
BRANCHES
ANGIO AFTER 4 YRS
BYPASS TO
LAT TARSAL
PATENT >12 YRS
MORE THAN 98% OF
PTS WITH CLI HAVE
PATTERN OF DISEASE
SUITABLE FOR
REVASCULARIZATION
BY OPEN OR ENDO RxS
- VEITH, ANN SURG 1991
IS ALL THIS
WORTHWHILE ?
CONCLUSIONS REGARDING PATIENTS
WITH LIMBS THREATENED BY
INFRAINGUINAL ARTERIOSCLEROSIS

ANN SURG 1981, 1991
AGGRESSIVE USE OF ALL THESE &
OTHER LIMB SALVAGE TECHNIQUES
INCLUDING REOPS AND RE-PTAs
WERE WORTHWHILE WHEN EMPLOYED
IN 3700 CONSECUTIVE PATIENTS
REPETETIVE BYP
OR PTA ARE THEY
WORTHWHILE ?
YES (5-14 PROCED)
LIPSITZ, VEITH
VASCULAR - APRIL 2013
1 OUTSTANDING Pt – 17 Yrs
• 

Surgery #1

2/13/92

–  EIA to CFA goretex
–  Fem-pop reversed GSV

• 

Surgery #2

1/31/94

–  LàR fem-fem goretex
–  Thrombectomy of fem-pop

• 

Surgery #3

• 

Surgery #8

8/22/96

• 

Surgery #9

1/3/02

13 –  R CIA to PFA goretex
–  PFA to AT goretex
–  Thrombolysis 1/97
BYPASSES
–  Thrombolysis 8/97

12/28/94

–  Thrombectomy of CIA to PFA
–  AT to AT LSV
–  CIA graft to AT graft goretex

–  Redo fem-fem goretex
–  Thrombectomy of fem-pop

• 

Surgery #4

11/10/95

–  L EIA to R AKPop goretex
–  AKPop to BKPop vein

• 

Surgery #5

11/15/95

–  Redo vein AKPop to BKPop

• 

Surgery #6

5/8/96

–  L EIA to R vein graft goretex
–  Extension to TPT with vein

• 

Surgery #7

5/9/96

–  Thrombectomy of goretex

• 

Surgery #10

1/4/02

–  Thrombectomy of CIAàPFAàATàAT

• 

# 13 • 
2003

Surgery #11

2/20/02

–  Thrombectomy of CIAàPFAàATàAT
–  Extension to distal AT goretex

Surgery #12

6/17/02

–  Thrombectomy of CIAàATàAT
–  Patch angioplasty of distal anastomosis

- New CIA-to-Perineal PTFE
AT FIRST OTHERS INCL
OTHER SURGEONS & VS
DOUBTED US &
THOUGHT OUR
AGGRESSIVE LIMB SALV
APPROACH CRAZY
NOW ACCEPTED
THE PRESENT
IS
A CHANGING WORLD
IN LAST 5-10 YEARS
SEA CHANGE IN
TREATMENT OF
INFRANGUINAL ASO
THE CHANGE
UP TO 10 YRS AGO
Rx INFRAINGUINAL ASO
PRIMARILY OPEN SURG
SUPPLEMENTED BY CB RxS
NOW RxS PRIMARILY ENDOV
I.E. ENDOV IS FIRST OPTION
- PTA, STENTS, SGs, ETC
INDEED
THERE ARE NOW SOME
WHO SAY NO ROLE FOR
OPEN BYPASS SURGERY
- “IF CAN’T Rx ENDO
Rx WITH AMPUTATION”
IS THIS RIGHT ???
COULD NOT BE MORE WRONG
STILL A SUBSTANTIAL NUMBER
OF PTS WITH INFRAING ASO
WHO NEED OPEN SURG (BYP/TX)
AT SOME TIME IN
THEIR DISEASE COURSE

PROPORTION VARIES ?
20-40%?
THE FUTURE
AS TECHNOLOGY IMPROVES

•  MORE THAN 85% OF
PROCEDURES FOR CLI
WILL BE CATHETER BASED
•  MANY PROCEDURES WILL BE
VERY DISTAL AND DIFFICULT
•  REDO PROCEDURES OFTEN
WILL BE REQUIRED (CB/OP)
EVOLVING ENDOVASC OPTIONS
WILL INCLUDE NEW TECHNOLOGIES

•  TO IMPROVE BALLOON PTA &
STENTING AT ALL LEVELS
•  TO IMPROVE OTHER CB RxS
(LASER, ATHERO, CRYO, ETC)
•  ??? CELL OR GENE THERAPY
- EFFICACY MUST BE PROVEN
BY GOOD RCTs
- COST IS AN ISSUE
MY CONCLUSIONS
THE POSITIVES
•  INTERVENTIONAL Rx OF LE
ASO IS HOTTEST NEW AREA
IN VASCULAR DIS Rx
•  STATIN Rx WON’T DO IT HERE
•  GREAT NEED IN THIS AREA
•  MANY ADVANCES WILL BE
MADE OVER NEXT DECADE
MY CONCLUSIONS
NEGATIVES OR DIFFICULT
•  MANY VARIABLES
•  HARD TO PROVE Rx VALUE
•  NEED FOR HI LEVEL
EVIDENCE & ENDOV SKILLS
•  ALWAYS NEED FOR OPEN Rx
•  COST IS BIG ISSUE
•  MUST BE SURE IS NEED TO Rx
FINAL CONCLUSION
•  WHEN A PATIENT IS FACING
AN AMPUTATION
•  WHETHER YOU ARE AN
INTERVENTIONALIST OR
SURGEON
•  NEVER, NEVER GIVE UP!
- UNLESS YOUR PROCEDURE
WILL TAKE THE PT’S LIFE
THANK YOU
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Evolution of limb salvage technics & where they are going: From amputation to bypass to Endovasc Rx

  • 1. EVOLUTION OF LIMB SALVAGE TECHNICS & WHERE THEY ARE GOING : FROM AMPUTATION TO BYPASS TO ENDOVASC Rx FRANK J. VEITH SITE - 2013 BARCELONA – MAY 9, 2013
  • 3. OLD HISTORY IN THE 1960s &1970s SURGEONS CARED FOR CLI DEFINED AS REST PAIN, GANGRENE, ULCERATION STANDARD Rx AMPUTATION
  • 4. MORE HISTORY IN THE LATE 1960s WE BEGAN TO CHALLENGE THAT STANDARD (AMPUTATION)
  • 5. UNUSUALLY EXCELLENT ARTERIOGRAPHY 1971 83 YO DIABETIC GANGRENOUS TOE BYPASS 10 YEARS OFLIMB SALVAGE POSTERIOR TIBIAL
  • 6. FIRST TO PUSH LIMB SALVAGE SURGERY & VERY AGGRESSIVE APPROACH TO LS (WITH BYP & PTA)
  • 7. MY BACKGROUND STANDARD VASC SURGEON & ENDOVASCULAR ADVOCATE •  1978 – LIMB SALVAGE & ILIAC PTA •  1988 – TIBIAL PTA; LATER SIPTA •  1992 – 1ST US EVAR WITH PARODI MARIN, SCHONHOLZ
  • 8. & FIRST TO PUSH REDO BYP OR PTA ST BYP OR WHEN 1 PTA FAILED OR WAS FAILING - UNUSUAL APPROACHES TO HELP
  • 9. MOST OF OUR PATIENTS WERE DIABETIC ( > 70%) HENCE RELEVANCE TO DIABETIC FOOT CARE – CURRENT FAD
  • 11. 1978 78 YO DIABETIC AMP RECOM AT 3 NYC HOSPITALS NO SAPHENOUS V
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  • 16. ANGIO AFTER 4 YRS LIMB SALVAGE 6 YRS
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  • 19. AFTER ANT TIB BYPASS & DEBRIDEMENT & EXCISION OF ACHILLES TENDON
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  • 22. FIRST TO DO VEIN BYPASSES TO VERY DISTAL PEDAL ARTERY BRANCHES
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  • 27. MORE THAN 98% OF PTS WITH CLI HAVE PATTERN OF DISEASE SUITABLE FOR REVASCULARIZATION BY OPEN OR ENDO RxS - VEITH, ANN SURG 1991
  • 29. CONCLUSIONS REGARDING PATIENTS WITH LIMBS THREATENED BY INFRAINGUINAL ARTERIOSCLEROSIS ANN SURG 1981, 1991 AGGRESSIVE USE OF ALL THESE & OTHER LIMB SALVAGE TECHNIQUES INCLUDING REOPS AND RE-PTAs WERE WORTHWHILE WHEN EMPLOYED IN 3700 CONSECUTIVE PATIENTS
  • 30. REPETETIVE BYP OR PTA ARE THEY WORTHWHILE ? YES (5-14 PROCED) LIPSITZ, VEITH VASCULAR - APRIL 2013
  • 31. 1 OUTSTANDING Pt – 17 Yrs •  Surgery #1 2/13/92 –  EIA to CFA goretex –  Fem-pop reversed GSV •  Surgery #2 1/31/94 –  LàR fem-fem goretex –  Thrombectomy of fem-pop •  Surgery #3 •  Surgery #8 8/22/96 •  Surgery #9 1/3/02 13 –  R CIA to PFA goretex –  PFA to AT goretex –  Thrombolysis 1/97 BYPASSES –  Thrombolysis 8/97 12/28/94 –  Thrombectomy of CIA to PFA –  AT to AT LSV –  CIA graft to AT graft goretex –  Redo fem-fem goretex –  Thrombectomy of fem-pop •  Surgery #4 11/10/95 –  L EIA to R AKPop goretex –  AKPop to BKPop vein •  Surgery #5 11/15/95 –  Redo vein AKPop to BKPop •  Surgery #6 5/8/96 –  L EIA to R vein graft goretex –  Extension to TPT with vein •  Surgery #7 5/9/96 –  Thrombectomy of goretex •  Surgery #10 1/4/02 –  Thrombectomy of CIAàPFAàATàAT •  # 13 •  2003 Surgery #11 2/20/02 –  Thrombectomy of CIAàPFAàATàAT –  Extension to distal AT goretex Surgery #12 6/17/02 –  Thrombectomy of CIAàATàAT –  Patch angioplasty of distal anastomosis - New CIA-to-Perineal PTFE
  • 32. AT FIRST OTHERS INCL OTHER SURGEONS & VS DOUBTED US & THOUGHT OUR AGGRESSIVE LIMB SALV APPROACH CRAZY NOW ACCEPTED
  • 34. IN LAST 5-10 YEARS SEA CHANGE IN TREATMENT OF INFRANGUINAL ASO
  • 35. THE CHANGE UP TO 10 YRS AGO Rx INFRAINGUINAL ASO PRIMARILY OPEN SURG SUPPLEMENTED BY CB RxS NOW RxS PRIMARILY ENDOV I.E. ENDOV IS FIRST OPTION - PTA, STENTS, SGs, ETC
  • 36. INDEED THERE ARE NOW SOME WHO SAY NO ROLE FOR OPEN BYPASS SURGERY - “IF CAN’T Rx ENDO Rx WITH AMPUTATION” IS THIS RIGHT ???
  • 37. COULD NOT BE MORE WRONG STILL A SUBSTANTIAL NUMBER OF PTS WITH INFRAING ASO WHO NEED OPEN SURG (BYP/TX) AT SOME TIME IN THEIR DISEASE COURSE PROPORTION VARIES ? 20-40%?
  • 38. THE FUTURE AS TECHNOLOGY IMPROVES •  MORE THAN 85% OF PROCEDURES FOR CLI WILL BE CATHETER BASED •  MANY PROCEDURES WILL BE VERY DISTAL AND DIFFICULT •  REDO PROCEDURES OFTEN WILL BE REQUIRED (CB/OP)
  • 39. EVOLVING ENDOVASC OPTIONS WILL INCLUDE NEW TECHNOLOGIES •  TO IMPROVE BALLOON PTA & STENTING AT ALL LEVELS •  TO IMPROVE OTHER CB RxS (LASER, ATHERO, CRYO, ETC) •  ??? CELL OR GENE THERAPY - EFFICACY MUST BE PROVEN BY GOOD RCTs - COST IS AN ISSUE
  • 40. MY CONCLUSIONS THE POSITIVES •  INTERVENTIONAL Rx OF LE ASO IS HOTTEST NEW AREA IN VASCULAR DIS Rx •  STATIN Rx WON’T DO IT HERE •  GREAT NEED IN THIS AREA •  MANY ADVANCES WILL BE MADE OVER NEXT DECADE
  • 41. MY CONCLUSIONS NEGATIVES OR DIFFICULT •  MANY VARIABLES •  HARD TO PROVE Rx VALUE •  NEED FOR HI LEVEL EVIDENCE & ENDOV SKILLS •  ALWAYS NEED FOR OPEN Rx •  COST IS BIG ISSUE •  MUST BE SURE IS NEED TO Rx
  • 42. FINAL CONCLUSION •  WHEN A PATIENT IS FACING AN AMPUTATION •  WHETHER YOU ARE AN INTERVENTIONALIST OR SURGEON •  NEVER, NEVER GIVE UP! - UNLESS YOUR PROCEDURE WILL TAKE THE PT’S LIFE