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Genetic Telemedicine from the Medical
 College of Georgia/ Georgia Health
         Sciences University
         1995 to the Present

           David Flannery, MD
        Department of Pediatrics
   Medical College of Georgia of GHSU
Disclosure

 • I am an uncompensated member of the Board of
   Directors of the Georgia Partnership for
   Telehealth, a not-for-profit 501c3 corporation
Medical Geneticists

 • Physicians trained to diagnose and treat genetic disorders
   such as Neurofibromatosis, Marfan Syndrome, Down
   Syndrome, and PKU,
    – and provide genetic counseling to patients and families
 • There are only 1400 MD Clinical Medical Geneticists in the US
 • There is a geographic misdistribution of Clinical Medical
   Geneticists in all states
 • As a result, almost all Clinical Genetics programs in the US
   provide services to patients in distant sites by conducting
   outreach clinics where they travel by auto to distant sites and
   see patients and families
     – This is very time-consuming, expensive, inefficient , and creates
       delays in access to care
Georgia, is the largest state in land area east of the
Mississippi. We have few concentrated areas of
specialty medical care
Original State Telemedicine System
was called GSAMS
Medical College of Georgia Telemedicine
  Genetic Services – The Early Years
• In 1995 we offered acute or urgent consults on the
  GSAMS telemedicine network

•   First telemedicine consult was on July 4, to Albany,GA on a baby
    who we diagnosed with Pfeiffer syndrome, a severe dwarfism. We
    were able to send orders for DNA testing for the disorder, and then
    were able to test the parents and determine that the disorder was not
    inherited, and would not recur in future children

• Despite our offering availability there was little uptake
Time for a New Idea

 • We then tried a new model - regularly-scheduled
   “virtual clinic” using Telemedicine, with Children’s
   Medical Services in Waycross, GA, in December
   1995, which was successful for several years
    – The Telemedicine Clinic was supplemental to
       our Bi-monthly in-person Outreach clinic in
       Waycross
    This was successful
       - many patients were seen on telemedicine, and
       we freed up appointment slots for our on-site
       outreach clinic, decreasing the time to next
       appointment at our outreach clinic to 2 months
Challenges with GSAMS Telemedicine

 • High start-up costs for facilities
 • High monthly line maintenance fees (~$2600/mo)
 • Distant sites began dropping out in the late 90’s
GSAMS’ decline and Waycross’
response
 • The Southeast Health Unit (Health Department) in
   Waycross was committed to continue
   Telemedicine services, and set up a dedicated
   system between one of their Health Department
   offices and MCG in 2000
    – Here is one lesson about “sustainability” of
      Telemedicine programs
 • This internet-based point-to-point system is still in
   active use
 • The nurse who was tasked with developing this
   system is now well-known to you all:
Paula Guy
The rest of Georgia languished without
telemedicine genetics
Then came the Creation of a New Statewide
  Georgia Telemedicine Program in 2005


   The result of Negotiations by Insurance Commissioner
    Oxendine regarding Anthem and WellPoint Merger
   Result – Oxendine’s Rural Health Initiative
      • $100 million over the next 20 years in rural capital
        bonds
      • Statewide Telemedicine Program
           $11.5 Million over 3 years
   Transitioned to Not for Profit 501 (3) c -
    Georgia Partnership for TeleHealth, December, 2007




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GPT – “Open Access”
                    Network Model
• Creates a web of access points
• Any Presentation Site can connect to any other site

                                                        Presentation
                                                            Site
                  Specialty
                   Center                Presentation
                                             Site
                                                                       Specialty
   Presentation                                                         Center
       Site
                          Presentation
                              Site
                                                  Specialty
                                                   Center
Transition to Not for Profit 501 (3) c
Georgia Partnership for TeleHealth, Inc December, 2007


       Mission
       •   Improve and promote the availability and provisioning of
           specialized healthcare services in rural and underserved
           areas of Georgia.
       •   Educate and provide training to hospitals and healthcare
           facilities that furnish, administer and finance Telemedicine
           programs and facilities.
       •   Reduce the service barriers that exist for patients who live in
           rural areas of Georgia at a distance from hospital and other
           medical facilities.




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Georgia TeleHealth Infrastructure

 Georgia Telemedicine Centralized Scheduling
    Dedicated 800 phone # and staffing to support Program
    Scheduling capabilities for Presentation Sites and Specialty Sites
 Field-Based TM Liaisons
    Regionalized coverage with specific targeted areas
    Division of responsibilities between presentation and specialty sites
 Expanded Reimbursement




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Current GHSU Genetic Telemedicine
Activity
 • Using GPT network
   – Expanded to 2 Half-day scheduled clinics per month


 • Using Waycross telemedicine hook-up
   – 1 half-day per month
Current GHSU Genetic Telemedicine
Activity – GaPartnership Network Clinics
    – Typically averaging 5 patients seen per session
       • No-show rate 0 – 33%
    – Multiple distant sites
       • i.e., I encounter a patient in a TM room in
         Douglas,GA, then switch to a TM site in Valdosta,
         and then switch to a site in Hazelhurst, and then
         back to Valdosta
    – Most patients have developmental delay plus
      something else – dysmorphic features, growth
      problems, family history
    – 75% are New Consultations
    – History, Family History, Exam, fax orders for testing
    – Diagnosis rate same as on-campus consults
Current GHSU Genetic Telemedicine Activity –
Proprietary Waycross Telemedicine Clinic

    – Typically 4-6 patients scheduled
       • Typically 25 -50% no-show rate
    – Most patients are follow-up patients
       • Recent clinic:
           –   Down syndrome +FAS,
           –   Tuberous sclerosis,
           –   Beckwith-Wiedemann,
           –   Dysmorphic unknown syndrome
GHSU Genetic Telemedicine –
Revenue Metrics


   Summary of Activity for Telemedicine Services

   FY11 Financial Activity through May for the Population Defined by Telemedicine List


   Zero balance accounts only




                                                           All Locations

        Date of Service         Charges      Payments      Contractual    Bad Debt Collections    Bad Debt Other    NCR II



   FYTD 2011 through May        $XXXXXXX       $XXXXXX         $XXXXXX                    $0.00             $0.00      100.0%




NCR = “Net Collection Rate” – i.e., what percent of the allowable
Payment did you receive
Collections average $125.34 per encounter
Lessons from More than a Decade of
      Telemedicine Genetics
• Genetics can be done by telemedicine
    – Quality of the interaction with patients and families is
      good
    – Image quality is good for dysmorphology
•   Patients are satisfied
    – Formally assessed several years ago
• Show rates vary
    – seem to correlate with the enthusiasm of the
      nurse/coordinator at the distant site with regard to
      their interaction with the patient being scheduled
Up-slanting Palpebral
Able to see minor
 Fissures       physical variations
(Dysmorphic Features)




        http://medgen.genetics.utah.edu/index.html
Other Lessons from More than a
Decade of Telemedicine Genetics
 • Most patients/families take to TM like ducks to
   water,
    –BUT
 • Some people DO NOT
    – And it can be painful and cringe-worthy
 • The Consultant can’t know this, but the Physician
   and Coordinator at the remote end need to look at
   the patient/family and reflect on their suitability
   before making the referral for TM
Why has this worked so well for so long?

 • Local “champions” for telemedicine in distant site
   communities
 • Availability of Centralized Scheduling into our
   “virtual clinic” sessions
 • Open architecture of the network, which allows
   hopping from site to site during the “virtual clinic”
   session
Other Opportunities for Genetic
Telemedicine
 • Follow-up of patients with Inborn errors of
   Metabolism, like PKU and other disorders
   detected by Newborn Screening
    – We have experience with this
       • TM works fine
    – Physician component would be reimbursable
    – Would need a waiver for Dieticians to bill for services
Genetic Counseling by Telemedicine:
Tremendous Opportunity
 • Telemedicine would be good for counseling for:
    – Cancer Genetics – Breast, Colon, etc.
    – Patients with already diagnosed Mendelian Disorders
    – Already diagnosed Multi-factorial disorders


 • But, Genetic Counselors are not licensed in the
   vast majority of States, and are not recognized by
   payers
Untapped Opportunities

 • “Store-and-Forward “ Telemedicine Consultations
    – A great “fit” for Dysmorphology consultations
    – Could easily go across State boundaries
        • Informally already occurs, even across national
          boundaries:
            – Skeletal dysplasias listserv
            – Every Geneticist who has “expertise” with a particular
              syndrome frequently receives inquiries from other
              physicians regarding patients
    – Probably needs to be formally structured to be able to
      meet a definition of “practice of medicine” that would be
      recognized by State Medical Boards
There are challenges,
BUT - It’s Worth the Effort!
 • Improved Access
    – Connecting Patients and Families with Genetic
      services that they would otherwise not receive
 • Decreasing cost of care
    – Patient/families’ travel
    – Genetic consultants’ travel
    – “Green” service – how to calculate?
 • Enhanced revenue
    – Geneticist avoids lost opportunity encounters at
      home institution that would occur while they are on
      the road to do outreach clinics
    – BECAUSE
With Telemedicine,
You Can Be In Two Places At The Same Time !

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Dr. flannery ata talk

  • 1. Genetic Telemedicine from the Medical College of Georgia/ Georgia Health Sciences University 1995 to the Present David Flannery, MD Department of Pediatrics Medical College of Georgia of GHSU
  • 2. Disclosure • I am an uncompensated member of the Board of Directors of the Georgia Partnership for Telehealth, a not-for-profit 501c3 corporation
  • 3. Medical Geneticists • Physicians trained to diagnose and treat genetic disorders such as Neurofibromatosis, Marfan Syndrome, Down Syndrome, and PKU, – and provide genetic counseling to patients and families • There are only 1400 MD Clinical Medical Geneticists in the US • There is a geographic misdistribution of Clinical Medical Geneticists in all states • As a result, almost all Clinical Genetics programs in the US provide services to patients in distant sites by conducting outreach clinics where they travel by auto to distant sites and see patients and families – This is very time-consuming, expensive, inefficient , and creates delays in access to care
  • 4. Georgia, is the largest state in land area east of the Mississippi. We have few concentrated areas of specialty medical care
  • 5. Original State Telemedicine System was called GSAMS
  • 6. Medical College of Georgia Telemedicine Genetic Services – The Early Years • In 1995 we offered acute or urgent consults on the GSAMS telemedicine network • First telemedicine consult was on July 4, to Albany,GA on a baby who we diagnosed with Pfeiffer syndrome, a severe dwarfism. We were able to send orders for DNA testing for the disorder, and then were able to test the parents and determine that the disorder was not inherited, and would not recur in future children • Despite our offering availability there was little uptake
  • 7.
  • 8. Time for a New Idea • We then tried a new model - regularly-scheduled “virtual clinic” using Telemedicine, with Children’s Medical Services in Waycross, GA, in December 1995, which was successful for several years – The Telemedicine Clinic was supplemental to our Bi-monthly in-person Outreach clinic in Waycross This was successful - many patients were seen on telemedicine, and we freed up appointment slots for our on-site outreach clinic, decreasing the time to next appointment at our outreach clinic to 2 months
  • 9. Challenges with GSAMS Telemedicine • High start-up costs for facilities • High monthly line maintenance fees (~$2600/mo) • Distant sites began dropping out in the late 90’s
  • 10. GSAMS’ decline and Waycross’ response • The Southeast Health Unit (Health Department) in Waycross was committed to continue Telemedicine services, and set up a dedicated system between one of their Health Department offices and MCG in 2000 – Here is one lesson about “sustainability” of Telemedicine programs • This internet-based point-to-point system is still in active use • The nurse who was tasked with developing this system is now well-known to you all:
  • 12. The rest of Georgia languished without telemedicine genetics
  • 13. Then came the Creation of a New Statewide Georgia Telemedicine Program in 2005  The result of Negotiations by Insurance Commissioner Oxendine regarding Anthem and WellPoint Merger  Result – Oxendine’s Rural Health Initiative • $100 million over the next 20 years in rural capital bonds • Statewide Telemedicine Program  $11.5 Million over 3 years  Transitioned to Not for Profit 501 (3) c - Georgia Partnership for TeleHealth, December, 2007 13
  • 14. GPT – “Open Access” Network Model • Creates a web of access points • Any Presentation Site can connect to any other site Presentation Site Specialty Center Presentation Site Specialty Presentation Center Site Presentation Site Specialty Center
  • 15. Transition to Not for Profit 501 (3) c Georgia Partnership for TeleHealth, Inc December, 2007 Mission • Improve and promote the availability and provisioning of specialized healthcare services in rural and underserved areas of Georgia. • Educate and provide training to hospitals and healthcare facilities that furnish, administer and finance Telemedicine programs and facilities. • Reduce the service barriers that exist for patients who live in rural areas of Georgia at a distance from hospital and other medical facilities. 15
  • 16. Georgia TeleHealth Infrastructure  Georgia Telemedicine Centralized Scheduling  Dedicated 800 phone # and staffing to support Program  Scheduling capabilities for Presentation Sites and Specialty Sites  Field-Based TM Liaisons  Regionalized coverage with specific targeted areas  Division of responsibilities between presentation and specialty sites  Expanded Reimbursement 16
  • 17. 17
  • 18. Current GHSU Genetic Telemedicine Activity • Using GPT network – Expanded to 2 Half-day scheduled clinics per month • Using Waycross telemedicine hook-up – 1 half-day per month
  • 19. Current GHSU Genetic Telemedicine Activity – GaPartnership Network Clinics – Typically averaging 5 patients seen per session • No-show rate 0 – 33% – Multiple distant sites • i.e., I encounter a patient in a TM room in Douglas,GA, then switch to a TM site in Valdosta, and then switch to a site in Hazelhurst, and then back to Valdosta – Most patients have developmental delay plus something else – dysmorphic features, growth problems, family history – 75% are New Consultations – History, Family History, Exam, fax orders for testing – Diagnosis rate same as on-campus consults
  • 20. Current GHSU Genetic Telemedicine Activity – Proprietary Waycross Telemedicine Clinic – Typically 4-6 patients scheduled • Typically 25 -50% no-show rate – Most patients are follow-up patients • Recent clinic: – Down syndrome +FAS, – Tuberous sclerosis, – Beckwith-Wiedemann, – Dysmorphic unknown syndrome
  • 21. GHSU Genetic Telemedicine – Revenue Metrics Summary of Activity for Telemedicine Services FY11 Financial Activity through May for the Population Defined by Telemedicine List Zero balance accounts only All Locations Date of Service Charges Payments Contractual Bad Debt Collections Bad Debt Other NCR II FYTD 2011 through May $XXXXXXX $XXXXXX $XXXXXX $0.00 $0.00 100.0% NCR = “Net Collection Rate” – i.e., what percent of the allowable Payment did you receive Collections average $125.34 per encounter
  • 22. Lessons from More than a Decade of Telemedicine Genetics • Genetics can be done by telemedicine – Quality of the interaction with patients and families is good – Image quality is good for dysmorphology • Patients are satisfied – Formally assessed several years ago • Show rates vary – seem to correlate with the enthusiasm of the nurse/coordinator at the distant site with regard to their interaction with the patient being scheduled
  • 23. Up-slanting Palpebral Able to see minor Fissures physical variations (Dysmorphic Features) http://medgen.genetics.utah.edu/index.html
  • 24. Other Lessons from More than a Decade of Telemedicine Genetics • Most patients/families take to TM like ducks to water, –BUT • Some people DO NOT – And it can be painful and cringe-worthy • The Consultant can’t know this, but the Physician and Coordinator at the remote end need to look at the patient/family and reflect on their suitability before making the referral for TM
  • 25. Why has this worked so well for so long? • Local “champions” for telemedicine in distant site communities • Availability of Centralized Scheduling into our “virtual clinic” sessions • Open architecture of the network, which allows hopping from site to site during the “virtual clinic” session
  • 26. Other Opportunities for Genetic Telemedicine • Follow-up of patients with Inborn errors of Metabolism, like PKU and other disorders detected by Newborn Screening – We have experience with this • TM works fine – Physician component would be reimbursable – Would need a waiver for Dieticians to bill for services
  • 27. Genetic Counseling by Telemedicine: Tremendous Opportunity • Telemedicine would be good for counseling for: – Cancer Genetics – Breast, Colon, etc. – Patients with already diagnosed Mendelian Disorders – Already diagnosed Multi-factorial disorders • But, Genetic Counselors are not licensed in the vast majority of States, and are not recognized by payers
  • 28. Untapped Opportunities • “Store-and-Forward “ Telemedicine Consultations – A great “fit” for Dysmorphology consultations – Could easily go across State boundaries • Informally already occurs, even across national boundaries: – Skeletal dysplasias listserv – Every Geneticist who has “expertise” with a particular syndrome frequently receives inquiries from other physicians regarding patients – Probably needs to be formally structured to be able to meet a definition of “practice of medicine” that would be recognized by State Medical Boards
  • 29. There are challenges, BUT - It’s Worth the Effort! • Improved Access – Connecting Patients and Families with Genetic services that they would otherwise not receive • Decreasing cost of care – Patient/families’ travel – Genetic consultants’ travel – “Green” service – how to calculate? • Enhanced revenue – Geneticist avoids lost opportunity encounters at home institution that would occur while they are on the road to do outreach clinics – BECAUSE
  • 30. With Telemedicine, You Can Be In Two Places At The Same Time !

Editor's Notes

  1. For these patients, we collected $125.34 per encounter