This topic considers two frameworks of time to explain the second coming (parousia or presence ) of Jesus. Option (1) is biblical (not literal) meanings, as opposed to Option(2), only literal meanings of words.
The slideshow briefly compares both and lists the shortcomings and advantages of each perspective.
It concludes that biblical meanings from biblical usage permit an explanation in the first century without forcing facts out of their natural context.
Flores de Mayo-history and origin we need to understand
Aarp biblical or only literal second coming.
1. a.a.r.p.
THE AUSTRALIAN ASSOCIATION FOR
THE RATIONAL STUDY OF PROPHECY
a.a.r.p. “Measuring the relation between
biblical observation, theory, and belief.”
2. SECOND COMING
‘LITERAL’ OR ‘BIBLICAL?’ DEMONSTRATION.
Aim: To Compare the basis of First Century
and Twenty-First Century Explanations
Issue: Which model best fits Jesus’ words?
(1) A C.1st model, or
(2) A C.21st model?
a.a.r.p. “Measuring the relation between
biblical observation, theory, and belief.”
3. Two options are considered;
(1) A‘Biblical’meaning of words. C.1st
(2) An ‘Only Literal’meaning of words. C.21st
a.a.r.p. “Measuring the relation between
biblical observation, theory, and belief.”
4. OPTION (1)
IF BIBLICAL MEANINGS, THEN –
COMPLETE C.1ST END-TIME MODEL
IN JESUS OWN WORDS: TIME &
BIBLICAL DESCRIPTION
a.a.r.p. “Measuring the relation between
biblical observation, theory, and belief.”
6. IF BIBLICAL MEANINGS of biblical words, THEN
Observable time facts Mtt 23:35-37; 24:34
‘Days of Vengeance.’ Lk 21:22; Rev 18:24-19:2
No ‘delay’ needed Heb 10:37
No ‘gaps’ needed (Only once Ezek 22:30)
OT disappeared that generation Heb 8:13.
Adds more significance to the Temple; Mtt 24:1-3
(a) Old Covenant there. 1 Kgs 8:1-9:6
(b) ALL blood there. Rev 18:24-192
Fulfills all things in C.1st Generation Mtt 23:35ff/Lk 21/Rev 11-22
a.a.r.p. “Measuring the relation between
biblical observation, theory, and belief.”
7. OPTION (2)
IF ONLY MODERN (LITERAL) MEANINGS
THEN–
INCOMPLETE C.21ST MODEL
WITH NO TIME FACTS, NO CAUSE FOR
DELAY, & ‘ONLY LITERAL’
DESCRIPTION.
a.a.r.p. “Measuring the relation between
biblical observation, theory, and belief.”
8. ________________ NO 2000 years?____
“When will these things be?” NO temple?
NO delay?
NO gap?
| NO reason for failure? | C.21st?
a.a.r.p. “Measuring the relation between
biblical observation, theory, and belief.”
9. IF ONLY ‘MODERN LlTERAL MEANINGS’ of biblical words THEN-
No Observable time facts
‘Delay’.. but No cause for delay
‘Gaps’ .. but No ‘Gaps’ present
Cannot explain End of OT
Temple but ..No Temple there!
NOT FULFILLED in ‘this generation.’
a.a.r.p. “Measuring the relation between
biblical observation, theory, and belief.”
10. FULFILLMENT FACTS.
WHAT IS OBSERVED?
ALL fulfilled in that generation?
Or,
Only SOME fulfilled in that generation?
a.a.r.p. “Measuring the relation between
biblical observation, theory, and belief.”
11. ALL PROPHECY FULFILLED C.1ST
Mtt 24:30 Son of man COMING IN CLOUDS
Mtt 24:34 ALL THESE [signs] come on THIS GENERATION
Mk 13:30 THIS GENERATION will not pass till ALL
FULFILLED
Lk 18:31 Going to Jerusalem...ALL THINGS
ACCOMPLISHED
Lk 21:22 THESE are the Days of Vengeance when ALL
THINGS WRITTEN MAY BE FULFILLED
a.a.r.p. “Measuring the relation between
biblical observation, theory, and belief.”
12. Plus;
Lk 21:32 THIS GENERATION will not pass till ALL things occur
Acts 3:24 ALL PROPHETS from Samuel foretold THESE DAYS
1 Cor 10:11 US upon whom the ENDS OF THE AGES have come
Heb 8:13 He made the first [covenant] old READY TO DISAPPEAR
1 Pet 1:12 Spirit of Christ NOW ANNOUNCED TO YOU
Rev 11:1-2 Tread underfoot the temple and HOLY CITY for 42 MONTHS
Rev 19:10 The TESTIMONY of Jesus is the SPIRIT OF PROPHECY
Rev 22:6 Things which must SHORTLY TAKE PLACE
7 I am coming QUICKLY
10 Do NOT seal up PROPHECY [Revelation] – the TIME IS NEAR
12 I am coming QUICKLY
20 Surely I am coming QUICKLY.
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biblical observation, theory, and belief.”
13. WHAT DO
HISTORICAL AUTHORITIES SAY ABOUT
THE END OF THE HOLY CITY, AND
TEMPLE IN THAT GENERATION?
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biblical observation, theory, and belief.”
14. ALLAGREE.
The Holy City Jerusalem and temple TRAMPLED
UNDERFOOT, sacrifice failed, Mosaic age
ended, the entire population disappeared in A
DIVINE JUDGMENT in 42 months, 66-70 AD.
Lk 21: 24 Jerusalem TRAMPLED UNDERFOOT
Rev 11:1-2 Holy City TRAMPLED UNDERFOOT
42 months
ALL PROPHECY FULFILLED C.1ST
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biblical observation, theory, and belief.”
15. AUTHORITIES: Christian, Jewish, Josephus, Secular.
CHRISTIAN FULFILMENT: Schaff. History of the Christian Church.
http://biblehub.com/library/schaff/history_of_the_christian_church_volume_i/secti
on_38_the_jewish_war.htm
JEWISH FULFILMENT: Jewish Library.
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Judaism/revolt.html
JOSEPHUS WARS: History
http://www.gutenberg.org/files/2850/2850-h/2850-h.htm
SECULAR FULFILMENT : Wikipedia.
Seige of Jerusalem. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Jerusalem_(AD_70)
Roman War. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Jewish%E2%80%93Roman_War
THIRTY SIGNS OF MATTHEW 24 FULFILLED: Academia.com
https://www.academia.edu/10550719/ALL_THIRTY_SIGNS_OF_MATTHEW_24_FULFILLED_IN
_THE_FIRST_CENTURY
a.a.r.p. “Measuring the relation between
biblical observation, theory, and belief.”
16. ALL THIS SUPPORTS OPTION (1)
ALL promises made to first century people
recorded in a first century document were
FULFILLED in THAT GENERATION.
This is not able to be reduced more simply, more completely,
or more successfully.
a.a.r.p. “Measuring the relation between
biblical observation, theory, and belief.”
17. EIGHT PROBLEMS WITH OPTION (2.)
. NO C.21ST TEMPLE TO DESTROY
. NO END OF AGE EXPLANATION
.NO 2000 YEAR TIME FACTS
. NO EXPLANATION FOR DELAY, GAP
. NO CAUSATION; WHY?
. GOES AGAINST ALL OBSERVATION
. FAILS TO UNIFY AREA IN ONE GENERATION
. FAILS TO EXPLAIN BROKEN PROMISES.
a.a.r.p. “Measuring the relation between
biblical observation, theory, and belief.”
18. TWELVE ADVANTAGES OF OPTION (1.)
. UNIFIES ALL IN ONE GENERATION
. EXPLAINS END OF MOSAIC TEMPLE
. EXPLAINS END OF MOSIAC AGE
. EXPLAINS COMING IN CLOUDS
. EXPLAINS UNIFORM C.1ST TIME FACTS
.DOES NOT NEED A ‘DELAY’
.DOES NOT NEED ‘GAPS’
. DOES NOT NEED SUPPOSED 2000 YRS
. CAUSE: ALL OT BLOOD IN TEMPLE
. ONLY VIEW THAT IS OBSERVABLE
. GIVES JESUS BACK HIS OWN WORDS
. CONFIRMS HIS DEITY BY HIS OWN TESTIMONY IN THAT
GENERATION.
“ALL THESE THINGS [signs] will come upon THIS GENERATION.”
Mtt 24:34
a.a.r.p. “Measuring the relation between
biblical observation, theory, and belief.”
19. WHY IS THIS NECESSARY?
JESUS’ TESTIMONY.
“This generation shall not pass away until all these things [signs] are fulfilled .”
Matthew 24:34
“For the Testimony of Jesus is the Spirit of Prophecy.”
Revelation 19:11
"All revealed religion is based on facts. Testimony has respect to facts only; and that
testimony may be credible, it must be confirmed. The works of God and the words
of God, or the things done or spoken by God, are those facts which are laid down
and exhibited in the Bible as the foundation of all faith, hope, love, piety, and
humanity. All true and useful knowledge is an acquaintance with facts; and all
true science is acquired from the observation and comparison of facts. But he
that made the heart of man …knows that facts alone can move the affections and
command the passions of man. Hence the scheme of mercy which he has
discovered to all the world.." [These are known only through bible facts.]
Alexander Campbell, The Christian System, p. 90.
a.a.r.p. “Measuring the relation between
biblical observation, theory, and belief.”
20. JESUS’ TESTIMONY IS IN HIS OWN WORDS.
OPTION (1.)
“This generation shall not pass away until ALL
these things are fulfilled.”
OPTION (2.)
“A theory that cannot be observed, cannot be falsified, and cannot be tested can
only be ignored.”
Stanley M. Beck. The Simplicity of Science.
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a.a.r.p. “Measuring the relation between
biblical observation, theory, and belief.”