Droidcon London - October 27, 2023
Hot Take: Engineering
Managers are actually useful!
Parth Padgaonkar
jvmname@androiddev.social 🌐 jvmname.dev
According to the
internet, EMs are
useless 😬
Caveat/Disclaimers
All management
(and eng management in particular!)
is ½ art + ½ science
https://www.discovermagazine.com/mind/does-evidence-support-the-artistic-vs-
scienti
fi
c-mind-stereotype
Nobody can give
you a 100% clear
path to success
https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/best-way-to-become-android-developer-a-complete-roadmap/#
Meeting notes
Part I
The Duality of Eng Leadership
Part II
Things Nobody Told You (about being an Eng Manager)
Part III:
Q&A
The Duality of Eng Leadership
Part I
External Leadership
Part I — The Duality of Eng Leadership
Managing Up (and sideways!)
=
wants vs needs
External Leadership
Managing Up — wants vs needs
• What the team…
• can do / wants to do / needs to do
• Di
ff
ers for type of team: product vs platform
• Need to de
fi
ne business impact for that team
•
Managing Up — a list of people who need things
• Manager / exec
• Peers
• The team
What the team needs the EM to do
• Create a plan (aka a roadmap!), socialize it, and advocate for the team
• Every team needs a narrative — why this plan is the right plan
• Say “no”… just often enough
Bonus: BusinessImpact
• Things that aren’t business impact
• story points, team size, crash rate (usually)
• Understand your company’s path to
• Mercury | Slack | Facebook | Dell
• Business impact is the only thing that matters to exec
https://app.croneri.co.uk/feature-articles/covid-19-secure-business-impact-
analysis
Internal Leadership
(aka Communicating Downward)
Part 1.5 — The Duality of Eng
Leadership
The West Wing - S5E8 “Shutdown”
Internal Leadership
Internal Leadership
• Context
• Mentorship
• Course-correcting
Internal Leadership
Context
• Engineers want to understand things!
• “Why does this matter?”
• Visibility/transparency**
“good” transparency answers
more questions than it raises;
“bad” transparency does the
opposite
Internal Leadership
• Context
• Mentorship
• Course-correcting
Internal Leadership
Mentorship
• Coaching
• soft skills, perspective
• Career development
• leveling, promotion, compensation
• Leveling up the team
• junior ICs vs senior ICs
Internal Leadership
• Context
• Mentorship
• Course-correcting
Internal Leadership
Course-correcting
• Giving feedback is an obligation (+ growth!)
• Manager Feedback doesn’t have to be an o
ffi
cial
performance conversation — nuance is important!
• …but sometimes it’s an O
ffi
cial Performance
Conversation
• Operate from a place of care ❤
Internal Leadership
Hiring (bonus section!)
Hiring managers are responsible for building and maintaining diverse,
equitable, and inclusive teams.
Non-contributing factors: “the pipeline”, “lowering the hiring bar”, the sun
was in your eyes, etc.
Internal Leadership
=
Psych Safety
Things Nobody Told You
(about being an EM)
Part II
Things Nobody Told You
• You always have a choice!
• You’re not an engineer (anymore)
• 3 quotes on being an engineering leader
You always
have a choice
https://medium.com/tuitech/we-built-a-dual-track-engineering-career-ladder-heres-why-cc41c72e30ed
^
*should
You have a choice, cont.
• Recognize leadership is a skill, just like writing code
• “What got you here won’t get you there”
~Marshall Goldsmith
You ain’t an engineer anymore
“But I still want to write code!”
Manager-Parth
Engineer-Parth
3 quotes on Eng Leadership
~ Patty McCord + Reed Hastings
[YouTube clip]
We’re not a family,
we’re a pro-sports
team
~ Kirk Kaiser paraphrasing Peter Drucker (“The E
ff
ective Executive”)
A manager’s job is to prepare people to
perform, and to give them tools and
freedom to do so.”
~ Brian, my former manager
Your job is to disappoint people
• Humans are humans, not “resources”
• External:
• Needs vs wants
• Business impact
• Internal
• ICs want to understand why their work is important
• Feedback, coaching, mentorship
• Becoming an EM
• We’re lucky we have a split path; choice
• We aren’t a family
Recap
Q&A
(And thank you!)
Stuff I Read
• An Elegant Puzzle — Will Larsen
• Engineering Management For the Rest of Us — Sarah Drasner
• Jacobin — Book Review: Powerful (link)
• MakeArtWithPython — Is Engineering Management Bullshit (link)
• Reddit — Is Engineering Management Bullshit (link)
• Stackover
fl
ow — What you give up when you move to eng management (link)
• HBR — Your company is not a family (link)
• LinkedIn — Do Engineering Managers Add Value (link)
• Square Blog — Eng Manager Philosophies (link)

Hot Take: Engineering Managers Aren't Useless!

  • 1.
    Droidcon London -October 27, 2023 Hot Take: Engineering Managers are actually useful! Parth Padgaonkar jvmname@androiddev.social 🌐 jvmname.dev
  • 2.
    According to the internet,EMs are useless 😬
  • 3.
    Caveat/Disclaimers All management (and engmanagement in particular!) is ½ art + ½ science https://www.discovermagazine.com/mind/does-evidence-support-the-artistic-vs- scienti fi c-mind-stereotype
  • 4.
    Nobody can give youa 100% clear path to success https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/best-way-to-become-android-developer-a-complete-roadmap/#
  • 5.
    Meeting notes Part I TheDuality of Eng Leadership Part II Things Nobody Told You (about being an Eng Manager) Part III: Q&A
  • 6.
    The Duality ofEng Leadership Part I
  • 7.
    External Leadership Part I— The Duality of Eng Leadership
  • 8.
    Managing Up (andsideways!) = wants vs needs External Leadership
  • 9.
    Managing Up —wants vs needs • What the team… • can do / wants to do / needs to do • Di ff ers for type of team: product vs platform • Need to de fi ne business impact for that team •
  • 10.
    Managing Up —a list of people who need things • Manager / exec • Peers • The team
  • 11.
    What the teamneeds the EM to do • Create a plan (aka a roadmap!), socialize it, and advocate for the team • Every team needs a narrative — why this plan is the right plan • Say “no”… just often enough
  • 12.
    Bonus: BusinessImpact • Thingsthat aren’t business impact • story points, team size, crash rate (usually) • Understand your company’s path to • Mercury | Slack | Facebook | Dell • Business impact is the only thing that matters to exec https://app.croneri.co.uk/feature-articles/covid-19-secure-business-impact- analysis
  • 13.
    Internal Leadership (aka CommunicatingDownward) Part 1.5 — The Duality of Eng Leadership
  • 14.
    The West Wing- S5E8 “Shutdown” Internal Leadership
  • 15.
    Internal Leadership • Context •Mentorship • Course-correcting
  • 16.
    Internal Leadership Context • Engineerswant to understand things! • “Why does this matter?” • Visibility/transparency**
  • 17.
    “good” transparency answers morequestions than it raises; “bad” transparency does the opposite
  • 18.
    Internal Leadership • Context •Mentorship • Course-correcting
  • 19.
    Internal Leadership Mentorship • Coaching •soft skills, perspective • Career development • leveling, promotion, compensation • Leveling up the team • junior ICs vs senior ICs
  • 20.
    Internal Leadership • Context •Mentorship • Course-correcting
  • 21.
    Internal Leadership Course-correcting • Givingfeedback is an obligation (+ growth!) • Manager Feedback doesn’t have to be an o ffi cial performance conversation — nuance is important! • …but sometimes it’s an O ffi cial Performance Conversation • Operate from a place of care ❤
  • 22.
    Internal Leadership Hiring (bonussection!) Hiring managers are responsible for building and maintaining diverse, equitable, and inclusive teams. Non-contributing factors: “the pipeline”, “lowering the hiring bar”, the sun was in your eyes, etc.
  • 23.
  • 24.
    Things Nobody ToldYou (about being an EM) Part II
  • 25.
    Things Nobody ToldYou • You always have a choice! • You’re not an engineer (anymore) • 3 quotes on being an engineering leader
  • 26.
    You always have achoice https://medium.com/tuitech/we-built-a-dual-track-engineering-career-ladder-heres-why-cc41c72e30ed ^ *should
  • 28.
    You have achoice, cont. • Recognize leadership is a skill, just like writing code • “What got you here won’t get you there” ~Marshall Goldsmith
  • 29.
    You ain’t anengineer anymore
  • 30.
    “But I stillwant to write code!” Manager-Parth Engineer-Parth
  • 31.
    3 quotes onEng Leadership
  • 32.
    ~ Patty McCord+ Reed Hastings [YouTube clip] We’re not a family, we’re a pro-sports team
  • 33.
    ~ Kirk Kaiserparaphrasing Peter Drucker (“The E ff ective Executive”) A manager’s job is to prepare people to perform, and to give them tools and freedom to do so.”
  • 34.
    ~ Brian, myformer manager Your job is to disappoint people
  • 35.
    • Humans arehumans, not “resources” • External: • Needs vs wants • Business impact • Internal • ICs want to understand why their work is important • Feedback, coaching, mentorship • Becoming an EM • We’re lucky we have a split path; choice • We aren’t a family Recap
  • 36.
    Q&A (And thank you!) StuffI Read • An Elegant Puzzle — Will Larsen • Engineering Management For the Rest of Us — Sarah Drasner • Jacobin — Book Review: Powerful (link) • MakeArtWithPython — Is Engineering Management Bullshit (link) • Reddit — Is Engineering Management Bullshit (link) • Stackover fl ow — What you give up when you move to eng management (link) • HBR — Your company is not a family (link) • LinkedIn — Do Engineering Managers Add Value (link) • Square Blog — Eng Manager Philosophies (link)