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Valuing Portfolios on an
After-Tax Basis:The Pros and Cons
                                                                                               John Greene
                                                                                               President
                                                                                               J Greene Financial
                                                                                               Phone: 918-806-6151
                                                                                               jgreenefinancial@cox.net
                                                                                               www.jgreenefinancial.com




By  Elaine  Floyd,  CFP®

Estimating  taxes  is  so  difficult  that  we  usually  just  work  with  the  
pretax  value  of  investments  in  constructing  portfolios  or  building  
retirement  plans.  But  it’s  a  disservice  to  clients  not  to  consider  the  
tax  bill  when  setting  the  allocation.  The  question  becomes  how?
Uncle Sam is a silent partner in nearly every                                  tax system—most clients and advisors tend not to
investment. His cut depends on a number of                                     account for potential tax liabilities when valuing
factors unique to each situation:                                              assets. We intuitively know that the assets in a
                                                                               traditional IRA, 401(k), or other tax-deferred
     The type of account the investment is held in                             retirement plan are worth less than an equivalent
     (taxable or tax-deferred)                                                 amount held in a Roth, but because we can’t
                                                                               predict when the taxes will be paid or at what rate,
     The type of income earned (interest, dividends,
                                                                               we tend to work with these accounts at face value.
     capital gains, or IRA distribution)
     The investor’s tax bracket at the time the
     income or gain is reported                                                value on an after-tax basis. Do you reduce them by:

The timing of Uncle Sam’s cut is also unique to                                   15%—assuming they’ll all be taxed as dividends
each situation. Taxes could be owed this year if                                  or long-term capital gains?
a client decides to liquidate a profitable position
                                                                                  35%—assuming they’ll all be taxed as ordinary
in a taxable account. They could be deferred for
                                                                                  income or short-term capital gains (and that
many years if a young IRA holder plans not to take
                                                                                  the client is in the top federal tax bracket)? Or
distributions for 40 or 50 years. They could even
be escaped entirely, if a client donates the asset to                             0%—assuming they’ll all receive a step-up in
charity or dies holding a profitable position that                                 basis or be donated to charity?
receives a step-up in basis.
                                                                               And what about losses? Do you increase their value
Because of all these variables—not the least of                                to account for the taxes saved when losses are
which is the unknowable future of the U.S. income


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you do this when there is no way of knowing how
much other gains the client will have at the time                            retirement budget. An easier way might be to take
the losses are taken? And what if the losses turn
into profits between now and then? Fluctuating                                using after-tax income.
asset values can make tax adjustments seem minor
in comparison.                                                               For example, if you have a $500,000 IRA as part of
                                                                             the retirement portfolio, and if the client’s tax rate
Then, assuming you can arrive at some sort of                                in retirement is expected to be around 25%, you
estimate of future tax liability, you really need                            can value the IRA at 75% of the total, or $375,000,
to determine the present value of the liability in                           and assume it’s all available for spending.
order to arrive at a true after-tax asset valuation.
A $100,000 asset whose taxes are due in 30 years                             A $500,000 Roth, on the other hand, can be
is worth more than a $100,000 asset whose taxes                              counted at full value. A taxable account is trickier
are due next year. And because the taxes may not                             for the aforementioned reasons, but you can take
be due all at once—especially true for retirement                            a stab at estimating its after-tax value based on the
accounts that continue to grow tax-deferred as                               investments it holds and your plans for managing
                                                                             the account (buy and hold vs. active trading).
can’t just calculate the present value of the taxes
paid on a lump sum received in one year. Instead,                            Clients who are not used to valuing assets on
you must do lots of present-value calculations for                           an after-tax basis may gulp when you slice an
each year’s taxable withdrawal.
                                                                             account values in their financial plan, but it’s better
With so many unknowns, it seems almost                                       that they get used to the fact now that Uncle Sam
dangerous to estimate after-tax asset values                                 will eventually claim his partnership distribution.

Still, some estimate of taxes is probably better                             Asset location
than zero.                                                                   When you consider that a client’s share of
                                                                             ownership in a taxable asset is not 100% but rather
Why after-tax asset valuations matter                                        75% or 65%, with Uncle Sam’s share making up
Here are some reasons why you might want to
consider the after-tax values of your clients’ assets.                       example, if a client has $500,000 in a nontaxable
                                                                             Roth IRA with $250,000 in stocks and $250,000
Retirement planning                                                          in bonds, the allocation is 50-50. But if the same
One of the most important reasons to factor                                  allocation were done in a taxable account where
future tax liabilities into a client’s balance sheet                         the stocks were projected to be taxed at 15% and
is to help clients know how much spendable                                   the bonds at 35%, the after-tax allocation would be
income they will have in retirement. Some                                    $212,500 in stocks and $162,500 in bonds, or 57-43.
retirement budgets have an entry for taxes, but
because retirement income often comes from                                   The math for after-tax asset allocation can get
                                                                             pretty complicated, and since asset allocation
Security, annuities, traditional IRA distributions,                          is not an exact science anyway (is there enough
Roth IRA distributions, part-time employment,
and dividends and interest earned in taxable                                 may not wish to go to the trouble of incorporating
accounts—each with its own manner and rate of                                potential tax liabilities into your asset allocation




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strategy. However, you can be mindful of one of the                            Estimating future tax liabilities for the purpose
key takeaways noted by those who have done the                                 of determining current after-tax asset valuations
research: Put bonds in tax-deferred accounts and                               involves lots of assumptions and many calculations.
stocks in taxable accounts.                                                    The extent to which you decide to integrate this
                                                                               feature into your financial planning activities will
Divorce settlements and other special circumstances                            depend on the purpose of the valuation. While it is
Let’s face it, in most cases a precise asset                                   probably safe to reduce taxable and tax-deferred
valuation on any given day is not necessary.                                   account values by some percentage amount to
Because the values keep changing anyway,                                       account for taxes, clients will need to understand
                                                                               that these are estimates only and subject to
purposes. But in circumstances where a portfolio                               revision based on potential changes in their own
needs to be precisely valued as of a specific date,
such as for a divorce settlement, taxes are an                                 time Uncle Sam takes his share.
essential element in the valuation.
                                                                               Elaine Floyd, CFP®, is the Director of Retirement
Tax-deferred accounts are usually a significant                                 and Life Planning, Horsesmouth, LLC., where she
asset in most divorcing couples’ property                                      focuses on helping people understand the practical
settlements. To compare them to other assets                                   and technical aspects of retirement income planning.
that do not have embedded tax liabilities, it is                               Horsesmouth is an independent organization
necessary to estimate future taxes as accurately as                            providing unique, unbiased insight into the most
possible, calculate the present value of the taxes,                            critical issues facing financial advisors and their
and subtract the amount from the total asset value.                            clients. Horsesmouth was founded in 1996 and is
This is a job for an expert—and even then it’s not                             located in New York City.
an exact science.




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License  #:  HMANX2011A
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Valuing portfolios on an after tax basis

  • 1. Valuing Portfolios on an After-Tax Basis:The Pros and Cons John Greene President J Greene Financial Phone: 918-806-6151 jgreenefinancial@cox.net www.jgreenefinancial.com By  Elaine  Floyd,  CFP® Estimating  taxes  is  so  difficult  that  we  usually  just  work  with  the   pretax  value  of  investments  in  constructing  portfolios  or  building   retirement  plans.  But  it’s  a  disservice  to  clients  not  to  consider  the   tax  bill  when  setting  the  allocation.  The  question  becomes  how? Uncle Sam is a silent partner in nearly every tax system—most clients and advisors tend not to investment. His cut depends on a number of account for potential tax liabilities when valuing factors unique to each situation: assets. We intuitively know that the assets in a traditional IRA, 401(k), or other tax-deferred The type of account the investment is held in retirement plan are worth less than an equivalent (taxable or tax-deferred) amount held in a Roth, but because we can’t predict when the taxes will be paid or at what rate, The type of income earned (interest, dividends, we tend to work with these accounts at face value. capital gains, or IRA distribution) The investor’s tax bracket at the time the income or gain is reported value on an after-tax basis. Do you reduce them by: The timing of Uncle Sam’s cut is also unique to 15%—assuming they’ll all be taxed as dividends each situation. Taxes could be owed this year if or long-term capital gains? a client decides to liquidate a profitable position 35%—assuming they’ll all be taxed as ordinary in a taxable account. They could be deferred for income or short-term capital gains (and that many years if a young IRA holder plans not to take the client is in the top federal tax bracket)? Or distributions for 40 or 50 years. They could even be escaped entirely, if a client donates the asset to 0%—assuming they’ll all receive a step-up in charity or dies holding a profitable position that basis or be donated to charity? receives a step-up in basis. And what about losses? Do you increase their value Because of all these variables—not the least of to account for the taxes saved when losses are which is the unknowable future of the U.S. income Copyright  ©  2011  by  Annexus/Horsesmouth,  LLC.    All  Rights  Reserved. License  #:  HMANX2011A |1
  • 2. you do this when there is no way of knowing how much other gains the client will have at the time retirement budget. An easier way might be to take the losses are taken? And what if the losses turn into profits between now and then? Fluctuating using after-tax income. asset values can make tax adjustments seem minor in comparison. For example, if you have a $500,000 IRA as part of the retirement portfolio, and if the client’s tax rate Then, assuming you can arrive at some sort of in retirement is expected to be around 25%, you estimate of future tax liability, you really need can value the IRA at 75% of the total, or $375,000, to determine the present value of the liability in and assume it’s all available for spending. order to arrive at a true after-tax asset valuation. A $100,000 asset whose taxes are due in 30 years A $500,000 Roth, on the other hand, can be is worth more than a $100,000 asset whose taxes counted at full value. A taxable account is trickier are due next year. And because the taxes may not for the aforementioned reasons, but you can take be due all at once—especially true for retirement a stab at estimating its after-tax value based on the accounts that continue to grow tax-deferred as investments it holds and your plans for managing the account (buy and hold vs. active trading). can’t just calculate the present value of the taxes paid on a lump sum received in one year. Instead, Clients who are not used to valuing assets on you must do lots of present-value calculations for an after-tax basis may gulp when you slice an each year’s taxable withdrawal. account values in their financial plan, but it’s better With so many unknowns, it seems almost that they get used to the fact now that Uncle Sam dangerous to estimate after-tax asset values will eventually claim his partnership distribution. Still, some estimate of taxes is probably better Asset location than zero. When you consider that a client’s share of ownership in a taxable asset is not 100% but rather Why after-tax asset valuations matter 75% or 65%, with Uncle Sam’s share making up Here are some reasons why you might want to consider the after-tax values of your clients’ assets. example, if a client has $500,000 in a nontaxable Roth IRA with $250,000 in stocks and $250,000 Retirement planning in bonds, the allocation is 50-50. But if the same One of the most important reasons to factor allocation were done in a taxable account where future tax liabilities into a client’s balance sheet the stocks were projected to be taxed at 15% and is to help clients know how much spendable the bonds at 35%, the after-tax allocation would be income they will have in retirement. Some $212,500 in stocks and $162,500 in bonds, or 57-43. retirement budgets have an entry for taxes, but because retirement income often comes from The math for after-tax asset allocation can get pretty complicated, and since asset allocation Security, annuities, traditional IRA distributions, is not an exact science anyway (is there enough Roth IRA distributions, part-time employment, and dividends and interest earned in taxable may not wish to go to the trouble of incorporating accounts—each with its own manner and rate of potential tax liabilities into your asset allocation Copyright  ©  2011  by  Annexus/Horsesmouth,  LLC.  All  Rights  Reserved. License  #:  HMANX2011A   2|
  • 3. strategy. However, you can be mindful of one of the Estimating future tax liabilities for the purpose key takeaways noted by those who have done the of determining current after-tax asset valuations research: Put bonds in tax-deferred accounts and involves lots of assumptions and many calculations. stocks in taxable accounts. The extent to which you decide to integrate this feature into your financial planning activities will Divorce settlements and other special circumstances depend on the purpose of the valuation. While it is Let’s face it, in most cases a precise asset probably safe to reduce taxable and tax-deferred valuation on any given day is not necessary. account values by some percentage amount to Because the values keep changing anyway, account for taxes, clients will need to understand that these are estimates only and subject to purposes. But in circumstances where a portfolio revision based on potential changes in their own needs to be precisely valued as of a specific date, such as for a divorce settlement, taxes are an time Uncle Sam takes his share. essential element in the valuation. Elaine Floyd, CFP®, is the Director of Retirement Tax-deferred accounts are usually a significant and Life Planning, Horsesmouth, LLC., where she asset in most divorcing couples’ property focuses on helping people understand the practical settlements. To compare them to other assets and technical aspects of retirement income planning. that do not have embedded tax liabilities, it is Horsesmouth is an independent organization necessary to estimate future taxes as accurately as providing unique, unbiased insight into the most possible, calculate the present value of the taxes, critical issues facing financial advisors and their and subtract the amount from the total asset value. clients. Horsesmouth was founded in 1996 and is This is a job for an expert—and even then it’s not located in New York City. an exact science. Copyright  ©  2011  by  Annexus/Horsesmouth,  LLC.    All  Rights  Reserved. License  #:  HMANX2011A |3