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DISCORDANCE
BETWEEN
FSH & AMH
Prof. Aboubakr Elnashar
Benha University Hospital,
Egypt
ABOUBAKR ELNASHAR
INTRODUCTION
 FSH and AMH
 Predict ovarian reserve at 2 different stages of
follicular development.
 FSH: reflect antral and postantral follicular
development
 AMH: representative of post primordial preantral
follicular pool
 AMH decreases as age increases
 FSH increases as age increases.
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 Acceptable measures of
 ovarian reserve
(ASRM, 2015)
 predicting response to ovarian stimulation
 Prediction of live birth
 evidence is controversial
 AMH is superior
[Barad et al 15].
 AMH,AFC, and quantity of oocytes retrieved were
the most reliable predictors of live birth
[Nelson et al 17].
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 Discrepancy
between the two markers: difficulty in
 Selecting starting dose of GnT
 Predicting
 response to ovarian stimulation
 LBR
 Counseling patients
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FREQUENCY
 20%
[Leader et al , 2014].
 43%
(Hussain et al 2013)
 30% of cycles
(Wang et al, 2018)
ABOUBAKR ELNASHAR
 Gleicher et al, 2010
 small prospective study
 350 reached IVF, excluding women with PCOS.
 Normal AMH with abnormal FSH
 oocyte yield was diminished compared to normal age
specific AMH and FSH
 higher oocyte yield than a normal FSH with abnormal AMH.
 Above age 42 y
 normal as-FSH predicts good oocyte yields
even with abnormally low AMH.
 Under age 42 y
 discrepancies between as- FSH and as-AMH
remain similarly predictive of oocyte yields at all
ages.
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 Buyuk et al, 2011
 Reassuring AMH (> 0.6 ng/ml) & elevated FSH (>
10 mIU/ml) Vs. AMH levels < 0.6 ng/ml:
 higher oocyte yield
 greater number of day 3 embryos
 lower cycle cancellation rates
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 Hussain et al 2013
 107 women
 discordant groups: AMH/FSH one hormone
normal and the other abnormal
 required higher dose of gonadotrophins
ABOUBAKR ELNASHAR
Hussain et al 2013
ABOUBAKR ELNASHAR
 Wang et al, 2018
 140,000 cycles of ART at over 60 fertility centers.
 the largest study to evaluate LBR when AMH and
FSH results were either concordant or discordant.
 Patients were categorized into 4 groups:
 Good prognosis group (AMH ≥1 ng/ml; FSH < 10 mIU/ml)
 Poor prognosis group (AMH < 1 ng/ml; FSH ≥10 mIU/ml),
 Reassuring AMH group (AMH ≥1 ng/ml; FSH
≥10 mIU/ml),
 Reassuring FSH group (AMH < 1 ng/ml; FSH <
10 mIU/ml).
ABOUBAKR ELNASHAR
Wang et al, 2018
ABOUBAKR ELNASHAR
 Reassuring AMH predicted=High FSH, a high AMH
 rescues live birth probability (i.e. > 20%) across all
age groups.
 significantly higher LBR than the reassuring FSH
group
(22.8% vs 15.6%, p < 0.005).
ABOUBAKR ELNASHAR
 Normal AMH is a better clinical predictor of cycle
success when AMH and FSH are discordant.
 AMH
 superior to FSH among all age groups.
 more important determinant of pregnancy outcome
than FSH.
 Irrespective of FSH value, a low AMH confers
 a lower likelihood of LBR among young patients.
This live birth likelihood is even lower for older
patients with low AMH.
ABOUBAKR ELNASHAR
 Age, AMH, and FSH alone
 not sufficient to accurately predict the IVF success
rate.
 Model which incorporates
 These markers
 demographic information
 treatment outcomes:
 better predict the likelihood of success with IVF
 facilitate individualized patient counseling.
ABOUBAKR ELNASHAR
CONCLUSION
 Discordant AMH & FSH:
 oocyte yield was diminished
 higher dose of gonadotrophins
 AMH appears to be a stronger predictor
 Reassuring AMH
 better clinical predictor of cycle success.
 AMH, and FSH alone
 insufficient to predict a patient’s likelihood of LBR.
 Prediction models incorporate
 these markers
 patient demographics
 treatment response are needed to provide
accurate prognostic guidance for infertility
specialists to facilitate patient counseling.
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4.My clinic: Althwara st, Mansura, Egypt
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Discordance between AMH &FSH

  • 1. DISCORDANCE BETWEEN FSH & AMH Prof. Aboubakr Elnashar Benha University Hospital, Egypt ABOUBAKR ELNASHAR
  • 2. INTRODUCTION  FSH and AMH  Predict ovarian reserve at 2 different stages of follicular development.  FSH: reflect antral and postantral follicular development  AMH: representative of post primordial preantral follicular pool  AMH decreases as age increases  FSH increases as age increases. ABOUBAKR ELNASHAR
  • 3.  Acceptable measures of  ovarian reserve (ASRM, 2015)  predicting response to ovarian stimulation  Prediction of live birth  evidence is controversial  AMH is superior [Barad et al 15].  AMH,AFC, and quantity of oocytes retrieved were the most reliable predictors of live birth [Nelson et al 17]. ABOUBAKR ELNASHAR
  • 4.  Discrepancy between the two markers: difficulty in  Selecting starting dose of GnT  Predicting  response to ovarian stimulation  LBR  Counseling patients ABOUBAKR ELNASHAR
  • 5. FREQUENCY  20% [Leader et al , 2014].  43% (Hussain et al 2013)  30% of cycles (Wang et al, 2018) ABOUBAKR ELNASHAR
  • 6.  Gleicher et al, 2010  small prospective study  350 reached IVF, excluding women with PCOS.  Normal AMH with abnormal FSH  oocyte yield was diminished compared to normal age specific AMH and FSH  higher oocyte yield than a normal FSH with abnormal AMH.  Above age 42 y  normal as-FSH predicts good oocyte yields even with abnormally low AMH.  Under age 42 y  discrepancies between as- FSH and as-AMH remain similarly predictive of oocyte yields at all ages. ABOUBAKR ELNASHAR
  • 7.  Buyuk et al, 2011  Reassuring AMH (> 0.6 ng/ml) & elevated FSH (> 10 mIU/ml) Vs. AMH levels < 0.6 ng/ml:  higher oocyte yield  greater number of day 3 embryos  lower cycle cancellation rates ABOUBAKR ELNASHAR
  • 8.  Hussain et al 2013  107 women  discordant groups: AMH/FSH one hormone normal and the other abnormal  required higher dose of gonadotrophins ABOUBAKR ELNASHAR
  • 9. Hussain et al 2013 ABOUBAKR ELNASHAR
  • 10.  Wang et al, 2018  140,000 cycles of ART at over 60 fertility centers.  the largest study to evaluate LBR when AMH and FSH results were either concordant or discordant.  Patients were categorized into 4 groups:  Good prognosis group (AMH ≥1 ng/ml; FSH < 10 mIU/ml)  Poor prognosis group (AMH < 1 ng/ml; FSH ≥10 mIU/ml),  Reassuring AMH group (AMH ≥1 ng/ml; FSH ≥10 mIU/ml),  Reassuring FSH group (AMH < 1 ng/ml; FSH < 10 mIU/ml). ABOUBAKR ELNASHAR
  • 11. Wang et al, 2018 ABOUBAKR ELNASHAR
  • 12.  Reassuring AMH predicted=High FSH, a high AMH  rescues live birth probability (i.e. > 20%) across all age groups.  significantly higher LBR than the reassuring FSH group (22.8% vs 15.6%, p < 0.005). ABOUBAKR ELNASHAR
  • 13.  Normal AMH is a better clinical predictor of cycle success when AMH and FSH are discordant.  AMH  superior to FSH among all age groups.  more important determinant of pregnancy outcome than FSH.  Irrespective of FSH value, a low AMH confers  a lower likelihood of LBR among young patients. This live birth likelihood is even lower for older patients with low AMH. ABOUBAKR ELNASHAR
  • 14.  Age, AMH, and FSH alone  not sufficient to accurately predict the IVF success rate.  Model which incorporates  These markers  demographic information  treatment outcomes:  better predict the likelihood of success with IVF  facilitate individualized patient counseling. ABOUBAKR ELNASHAR
  • 15. CONCLUSION  Discordant AMH & FSH:  oocyte yield was diminished  higher dose of gonadotrophins  AMH appears to be a stronger predictor  Reassuring AMH  better clinical predictor of cycle success.  AMH, and FSH alone  insufficient to predict a patient’s likelihood of LBR.  Prediction models incorporate  these markers  patient demographics  treatment response are needed to provide accurate prognostic guidance for infertility specialists to facilitate patient counseling. ABOUBAKR ELNASHAR
  • 16. You can get this lecture and 420 lecture from: 1.My scientific page on Face book: Aboubakr Elnashar Lectures. https://www.facebook.com/groups/2277 44884091351/ 2.Slide share web site 3. elnashar53@hotmail.com 4.My clinic: Althwara st, Mansura, Egypt ABOUBAKR ELNASHAR