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Renegotiating Expertise: PACS
and the Challenges to Radiology
Allison A. Tillack, MA
UCSF Medical Scientist Training Program
UCSF-Berkeley Joint Program in Medical Anthropology
Richard S. Breiman, MD
UCSF Department of Radiology
Purpose of Study
  To examine how the adoption of PACS has/has not
impacted:
  Professional relationships among radiologists and clinicians
  The role of the radiologist as a member of the patient care
team
What Is Medical Anthropology?
  A subset of sociocultural anthropology:
  “examines patterns and processes of cultural change, with a
special interest in how people live in particular places, how they
organize, govern, and create meaning” (AAAnet.org)
  Medical Anthropologists are interested in how the health of
individuals and larger social groups are impacted by inter-
personal relationships and cultural and social norms
What is Medical Anthropology?
  Qualitative
  Primary research method is Participant-Observation:
  “involves placing oneself in the research context for
extended periods to gain a first-hand sense of how local
knowledge is put to work in grappling with practical
problems of everyday life” (AAAnet.org)
  Ethnographer is embedded into study population— allows
development of relationships of trust, movement beyond
rhetoric offered to a perceived ‘outsider’
Why Use Medical Anthropology/
Qualitative Research Methods?
  Particularly good for investigating research questions about
complex, emergent situations
  Generates detailed, rich data connected to specific contexts
  Can highlight differences between what people say and what
they do
  Helps generate important themes, patterns, hypotheses for
future research
Study Goals
  Characterize nature of changes in clinician-radiologist
relationships post-PACS
  Suggest possible causes/impact of these changes
  Develop suggestions for enhancement of radiologists’
role in clinical medicine
Methods
  A pilot project
  3 months of observation of the daily practices of a small
sample of radiologists and a community of clinical
specialists (N=40)
  Included interactions in reading rooms, during multi-
disciplinary conferences and tumor boards, and on rounds
Methods
  Semi-structured interviews with 10 radiologists and 5
clinical specialists focusing on:
  Perceptions of radiologists’ roles before and after PACS
  Perceived changes in nature/substance/frequency/place of
radiologist-clinician interaction pre- and post-PACS
Methods
  Extensive archival review of relevant scientific and
popular literature
  Radiology, JACR, society bulletins, society websites
  NEJM, JAMA, Lancet
  New York Times, Washington Post, Wall Street Journal
Data Analysis
  Verbatim interview transcripts and field notes (written
record of daily observations/interactions of
ethnographer) were analyzed for recurrent themes and
patterns
  These themes/patterns were then correlated with
relevant literature
  Special attention was paid to discrepancies between
what people said and what they did
Results
  All study radiologists (broad range of levels of
experience) expressed belief that they interact much
less frequently with clinician colleagues after adopting
PACS, and that very few clinicians now visit reading
rooms (as compared to rate of visits before PACS
adoption)
  All study radiologists voiced a high level of concern
about what this reduction in interactions will mean for
radiology in the future and for patient care
Results
  For example, one senior radiologist said:
  “We [radiologists] knew all the clinicians intimately
before. And then with PACS, this intimacy disappeared.
Before [PACS], I knew the face, name, wife’s name, and
kids’ names of all the clinicians, but now I don’t know who
you are if you joined the medical staff after we got PACS.
Now we’re operating in a void, because there’s no history
of the patient on the written image requests. Before, when
a clinician showed up, I could ask them and find out what’s
really going on with the patient.”
Results
  Observations of and interviews with clinical specialists in the
study indicate that attending specialists and a large majority of
fellows and senior residents believed that:
  PACS allowed them to see images frequently enough to develop
significant expertise in interpretation
  They were unlikely to seek out the opinion of a radiologist unless they
already had a solid professional relationship with that radiologist and
felt they could “trust” that radiologist’s interpretation
  At the study site, images were not embedded in radiology reports.
Often, the specialists would look at the image and not the dictation,
preferring to rely on their own ‘read’ and clinical knowledge of the
patient
Results
  For example, a senior clinical specialist commented:
  “In the acute setting when someone has a stroke and is in the
emergency department, we have our residents look at the
images on PACS and then a senior person, a stroke attending
like myself or one of the fellows, views the image as well, and
then makes a decision about emergent treatment. We make a
lot of decisions from home… we have our web-based PACS that
we can look at from home, so I wake up at 1 AM and stagger
down to the computer and look at the thing, and then tell
folks what we’re going to do.”
Results
•  Trust was something that both study radiologists and
clinicians frequently talked about both informally and
formally
  Difficulty of establishing/maintaining trust between
radiologists and clinicians post-PACS
Discussion
  Anthropological studies have shown the importance of social
interaction in establishing/maintaining jurisdictions of
expertise and professional trust
  Expertise is knowledge based, but also interactional and
performative
  Without opportunities to create and reinforce relationships of
professional trust and displays of expertise in image
interpretation with which to ‘convince’ their clinician
colleagues of their expertise, radiologists are at risk of losing
their status as imaging experts
Discussion
  As medical care becomes increasingly sub-specialized,
trust among clinicians is more important than ever
  Relying on others for the production/interpretation of
information (i.e., lab tests, imaging, physical exam, etc)
involves risk
  To work as a patient care team requires trust in the
competence of others
Discussion
  PACS has revolutionized medical imaging and has had
many positive impacts on radiologic practice
  But…
  PACS has also disturbed the mechanisms by which
radiologists formerly established trust and communicated
their expertise to clinicians, which has led to a
marginalization of the radiologist as a member of the
patient care team
  What can radiologists do to combat/reverse this trend?
Discussion
  Some radiologists are already taking action:
  Embedding reading rooms in clinical areas
  Becoming more visible through multi-disciplinary conferences
(seeking out clinicians and patients outside the reading room)
  Focusing more on providing clinically relevant information to
clinicians, faster… asking clinicians directly what they need,
how radiology can help them
  Taking on role of patient advocate (especially for radiation
safety, reducing number of unneeded scans)
Discussion
  This isn’t just a problem of less communication, but the
kinds of communication and the ways communication
takes place
  A key question for future research: how can trust and
expertise be established/maintained using alternate
modes of communication (email, phone, IM, etc.)?
Avenues for Future Research
  Sociologists have been investigating how trust is
established without personal interaction or knowledge
in virtual communities
  Example: eBay—how do people conduct business via the
internet (and establish trust) with people they’ve never
met?
  A particularly successful technique uses positive (as opposed to
negative) reputation systems
Ongoing Research
  Pilot project helped to shape Ms. Tillack’s current dissertation
research
  Combines both qualitative (ethnographic) and quantitative
approaches
  Study is now multi-sited (in a different geographic region);
includes a large academic medical center, a community hospital,
and pre-PACS health care clinic
  Also includes observation/interviews with multiple specialist
communities (ER, Neurology, Orthopedic Surgery, Hospitalists)
Special Thanks:
  Dr. Breiman and the UCSF Radiology Department
  Dr. Sunshine and the ACR
  Dr. Borgstede and the U. Colorado, Denver Radiology
Department
  Drs. Adele Clarke, Ian Whitmarsh, Sharon Kaufman,
Department of Anthropology, History, and Social Medicine
(UCSF)
  The UCSF Medical Scientist Training Program
Questions? Comments? Suggestions?
Want to Share Your Perspective?
  I would love for you to contact me!
  Email: allison.tillack@ucsf.edu

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Negotiating Expertise: PACS and the Challenges to Radiology

  • 1. Renegotiating Expertise: PACS and the Challenges to Radiology Allison A. Tillack, MA UCSF Medical Scientist Training Program UCSF-Berkeley Joint Program in Medical Anthropology Richard S. Breiman, MD UCSF Department of Radiology
  • 2. Purpose of Study   To examine how the adoption of PACS has/has not impacted:   Professional relationships among radiologists and clinicians   The role of the radiologist as a member of the patient care team
  • 3. What Is Medical Anthropology?   A subset of sociocultural anthropology:   “examines patterns and processes of cultural change, with a special interest in how people live in particular places, how they organize, govern, and create meaning” (AAAnet.org)   Medical Anthropologists are interested in how the health of individuals and larger social groups are impacted by inter- personal relationships and cultural and social norms
  • 4. What is Medical Anthropology?   Qualitative   Primary research method is Participant-Observation:   “involves placing oneself in the research context for extended periods to gain a first-hand sense of how local knowledge is put to work in grappling with practical problems of everyday life” (AAAnet.org)   Ethnographer is embedded into study population— allows development of relationships of trust, movement beyond rhetoric offered to a perceived ‘outsider’
  • 5. Why Use Medical Anthropology/ Qualitative Research Methods?   Particularly good for investigating research questions about complex, emergent situations   Generates detailed, rich data connected to specific contexts   Can highlight differences between what people say and what they do   Helps generate important themes, patterns, hypotheses for future research
  • 6. Study Goals   Characterize nature of changes in clinician-radiologist relationships post-PACS   Suggest possible causes/impact of these changes   Develop suggestions for enhancement of radiologists’ role in clinical medicine
  • 7. Methods   A pilot project   3 months of observation of the daily practices of a small sample of radiologists and a community of clinical specialists (N=40)   Included interactions in reading rooms, during multi- disciplinary conferences and tumor boards, and on rounds
  • 8. Methods   Semi-structured interviews with 10 radiologists and 5 clinical specialists focusing on:   Perceptions of radiologists’ roles before and after PACS   Perceived changes in nature/substance/frequency/place of radiologist-clinician interaction pre- and post-PACS
  • 9. Methods   Extensive archival review of relevant scientific and popular literature   Radiology, JACR, society bulletins, society websites   NEJM, JAMA, Lancet   New York Times, Washington Post, Wall Street Journal
  • 10. Data Analysis   Verbatim interview transcripts and field notes (written record of daily observations/interactions of ethnographer) were analyzed for recurrent themes and patterns   These themes/patterns were then correlated with relevant literature   Special attention was paid to discrepancies between what people said and what they did
  • 11. Results   All study radiologists (broad range of levels of experience) expressed belief that they interact much less frequently with clinician colleagues after adopting PACS, and that very few clinicians now visit reading rooms (as compared to rate of visits before PACS adoption)   All study radiologists voiced a high level of concern about what this reduction in interactions will mean for radiology in the future and for patient care
  • 12. Results   For example, one senior radiologist said:   “We [radiologists] knew all the clinicians intimately before. And then with PACS, this intimacy disappeared. Before [PACS], I knew the face, name, wife’s name, and kids’ names of all the clinicians, but now I don’t know who you are if you joined the medical staff after we got PACS. Now we’re operating in a void, because there’s no history of the patient on the written image requests. Before, when a clinician showed up, I could ask them and find out what’s really going on with the patient.”
  • 13. Results   Observations of and interviews with clinical specialists in the study indicate that attending specialists and a large majority of fellows and senior residents believed that:   PACS allowed them to see images frequently enough to develop significant expertise in interpretation   They were unlikely to seek out the opinion of a radiologist unless they already had a solid professional relationship with that radiologist and felt they could “trust” that radiologist’s interpretation   At the study site, images were not embedded in radiology reports. Often, the specialists would look at the image and not the dictation, preferring to rely on their own ‘read’ and clinical knowledge of the patient
  • 14. Results   For example, a senior clinical specialist commented:   “In the acute setting when someone has a stroke and is in the emergency department, we have our residents look at the images on PACS and then a senior person, a stroke attending like myself or one of the fellows, views the image as well, and then makes a decision about emergent treatment. We make a lot of decisions from home… we have our web-based PACS that we can look at from home, so I wake up at 1 AM and stagger down to the computer and look at the thing, and then tell folks what we’re going to do.”
  • 15. Results •  Trust was something that both study radiologists and clinicians frequently talked about both informally and formally   Difficulty of establishing/maintaining trust between radiologists and clinicians post-PACS
  • 16. Discussion   Anthropological studies have shown the importance of social interaction in establishing/maintaining jurisdictions of expertise and professional trust   Expertise is knowledge based, but also interactional and performative   Without opportunities to create and reinforce relationships of professional trust and displays of expertise in image interpretation with which to ‘convince’ their clinician colleagues of their expertise, radiologists are at risk of losing their status as imaging experts
  • 17. Discussion   As medical care becomes increasingly sub-specialized, trust among clinicians is more important than ever   Relying on others for the production/interpretation of information (i.e., lab tests, imaging, physical exam, etc) involves risk   To work as a patient care team requires trust in the competence of others
  • 18. Discussion   PACS has revolutionized medical imaging and has had many positive impacts on radiologic practice   But…   PACS has also disturbed the mechanisms by which radiologists formerly established trust and communicated their expertise to clinicians, which has led to a marginalization of the radiologist as a member of the patient care team   What can radiologists do to combat/reverse this trend?
  • 19. Discussion   Some radiologists are already taking action:   Embedding reading rooms in clinical areas   Becoming more visible through multi-disciplinary conferences (seeking out clinicians and patients outside the reading room)   Focusing more on providing clinically relevant information to clinicians, faster… asking clinicians directly what they need, how radiology can help them   Taking on role of patient advocate (especially for radiation safety, reducing number of unneeded scans)
  • 20. Discussion   This isn’t just a problem of less communication, but the kinds of communication and the ways communication takes place   A key question for future research: how can trust and expertise be established/maintained using alternate modes of communication (email, phone, IM, etc.)?
  • 21. Avenues for Future Research   Sociologists have been investigating how trust is established without personal interaction or knowledge in virtual communities   Example: eBay—how do people conduct business via the internet (and establish trust) with people they’ve never met?   A particularly successful technique uses positive (as opposed to negative) reputation systems
  • 22. Ongoing Research   Pilot project helped to shape Ms. Tillack’s current dissertation research   Combines both qualitative (ethnographic) and quantitative approaches   Study is now multi-sited (in a different geographic region); includes a large academic medical center, a community hospital, and pre-PACS health care clinic   Also includes observation/interviews with multiple specialist communities (ER, Neurology, Orthopedic Surgery, Hospitalists)
  • 23. Special Thanks:   Dr. Breiman and the UCSF Radiology Department   Dr. Sunshine and the ACR   Dr. Borgstede and the U. Colorado, Denver Radiology Department   Drs. Adele Clarke, Ian Whitmarsh, Sharon Kaufman, Department of Anthropology, History, and Social Medicine (UCSF)   The UCSF Medical Scientist Training Program
  • 24. Questions? Comments? Suggestions? Want to Share Your Perspective?   I would love for you to contact me!   Email: allison.tillack@ucsf.edu