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Presented by:
Mike Lubansky, Sageworks, Inc.
Tom Danielson, CliftonLarsonAllen
Todd Sprang, CliftonLarsonAllen
Moderated by:
Ed Bayer, Sageworks, Inc.
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Financial information company that provides
credit and risk management solutions to
financial institutions
Data and applications used by thousands of
financial institutions and accounting firms
across North America
Awards
◦ Named to Inc. 500 list of fastest growing privately
held companies in the U.S.
◦ Named to Deloitte’s Technology Fast 500
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Top 10 accounting firm

Serve over 1,200 financial institutions in the
country
200 professionals, including 25 partners, who
focus exclusively on financial institutions
Concentrate on community banks, thrifts and
credit unions
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Opinions expressed today represent personal
views of Todd and Tom. Our personal
opinions are still rapidly evolving as we
continue to evaluate the exposure draft.
CliftonLarsonAllen is in the process of writing
a formal comment letter for the Exposure
Draft which will then express the official
views of our firm.
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Mike Lubansky
◦ Mike Lubansky is a director of consulting services at
Sageworks and serves as the in-house ALLL expert. He has led
the implementation of an automated ALLL solution for more
than 70 financial institutions ranging in size from $37 million
to $20 billion in assets.

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Tom Danielson
◦ Tom is a partner with 30 years experience providing audit, tax,
loan review and consulting services to community banks.

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Todd Sprang
◦ Todd, also a partner, has 20 years of auditing and consulting
experience in the financial institutions industry. He serves as a
member of the AICPA Depository Institutions Expert Panel.
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Currently using ‘Incurred Loss Model’

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Backward looking

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Must pass “probable” threshold

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Credit deterioration not recognized in a
timely manner
Five different methods for measuring
impairment
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Forward-looking requirements

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“Probable” threshold removed

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Longer loss horizon

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Time value of money plays a role

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Collateral definitions
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We don’t yet know how it will impact
allowance levels
Some are speculating that it may increase 10
to 50 percent
Be skeptical of such statements
◦ Still working on the math
◦ Depends on the type of lending that you do
◦ Our first impression that it will most impact longterm non-revolving loans (HELOC’s and RLOC)
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ALLL should be more volatile—especially
upwardly
Climb more quickly during economic
downturn
In theory, it will also drop more quickly as the
economy improves
Concerns over regulatory scrutiny may
dampen management’s willingness to lower
ALLL
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Even more judgment is required

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Greater regulatory scrutiny

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More challenging math

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Lack of data, especially for small to mid-size
banks
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Attempting to predict the future
Need to know where we are in the economic
cycle
Implies we can identify when a
downturn/recovery starts
Implies we can predict the severity of a
downturn
Discourages longer-term lending that
customers may desire
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Comment period ends April 30
Talk to auditors, accounting firms,
examiners, etc.
Submit formal feedback: What you like, don’t
like, etc.
There are good parts to the Exposure Draft
We are not trying to imply that no changes
are needed
Draft a comment letter to FASB
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Exposure Draft contains questions from FASB
to address
Don’t need to comment on everything in the
Exposure Draft
◦ (ex – implementation timeframe)

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Form letters aren’t effective

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Read comment letters from others
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Industry analysts suggest late 2015 – early
2017
Typically standards are applied first to public
companies. Privately-held companies often
get an extra year to comply
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LinkedIn Group – ALLL Forum for Bankers
Future Webinars
◦ Sageworks Surety – Thursday, 2/28, 2:00pm EST

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Sageworks Risk Management Consultants
◦ surety@sageworks.com
◦ (919) 851-7474

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CliftonLarsonAllen
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Todd.Sprang@CliftonLarsonAllen.com
(630) 954-8175
Thomas.Danielson@CliftonLarsonAllen.com
(612) 376-4795

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FASB's CECL Model: How it will impact your ALLL

  • 1. Presented by: Mike Lubansky, Sageworks, Inc. Tom Danielson, CliftonLarsonAllen Todd Sprang, CliftonLarsonAllen Moderated by: Ed Bayer, Sageworks, Inc.
  • 2.    Financial information company that provides credit and risk management solutions to financial institutions Data and applications used by thousands of financial institutions and accounting firms across North America Awards ◦ Named to Inc. 500 list of fastest growing privately held companies in the U.S. ◦ Named to Deloitte’s Technology Fast 500
  • 3.     Top 10 accounting firm Serve over 1,200 financial institutions in the country 200 professionals, including 25 partners, who focus exclusively on financial institutions Concentrate on community banks, thrifts and credit unions
  • 4.  Opinions expressed today represent personal views of Todd and Tom. Our personal opinions are still rapidly evolving as we continue to evaluate the exposure draft. CliftonLarsonAllen is in the process of writing a formal comment letter for the Exposure Draft which will then express the official views of our firm.
  • 5.  Mike Lubansky ◦ Mike Lubansky is a director of consulting services at Sageworks and serves as the in-house ALLL expert. He has led the implementation of an automated ALLL solution for more than 70 financial institutions ranging in size from $37 million to $20 billion in assets.  Tom Danielson ◦ Tom is a partner with 30 years experience providing audit, tax, loan review and consulting services to community banks.  Todd Sprang ◦ Todd, also a partner, has 20 years of auditing and consulting experience in the financial institutions industry. He serves as a member of the AICPA Depository Institutions Expert Panel.
  • 6.  Currently using ‘Incurred Loss Model’  Backward looking  Must pass “probable” threshold   Credit deterioration not recognized in a timely manner Five different methods for measuring impairment
  • 7.  Forward-looking requirements  “Probable” threshold removed  Longer loss horizon  Time value of money plays a role  Collateral definitions
  • 8.    We don’t yet know how it will impact allowance levels Some are speculating that it may increase 10 to 50 percent Be skeptical of such statements ◦ Still working on the math ◦ Depends on the type of lending that you do ◦ Our first impression that it will most impact longterm non-revolving loans (HELOC’s and RLOC)
  • 9.     ALLL should be more volatile—especially upwardly Climb more quickly during economic downturn In theory, it will also drop more quickly as the economy improves Concerns over regulatory scrutiny may dampen management’s willingness to lower ALLL
  • 10.  Even more judgment is required  Greater regulatory scrutiny  More challenging math  Lack of data, especially for small to mid-size banks
  • 11.      Attempting to predict the future Need to know where we are in the economic cycle Implies we can identify when a downturn/recovery starts Implies we can predict the severity of a downturn Discourages longer-term lending that customers may desire
  • 12.
  • 13.       Comment period ends April 30 Talk to auditors, accounting firms, examiners, etc. Submit formal feedback: What you like, don’t like, etc. There are good parts to the Exposure Draft We are not trying to imply that no changes are needed Draft a comment letter to FASB
  • 14.   Exposure Draft contains questions from FASB to address Don’t need to comment on everything in the Exposure Draft ◦ (ex – implementation timeframe)  Form letters aren’t effective  Read comment letters from others
  • 15.   Industry analysts suggest late 2015 – early 2017 Typically standards are applied first to public companies. Privately-held companies often get an extra year to comply
  • 16.   LinkedIn Group – ALLL Forum for Bankers Future Webinars ◦ Sageworks Surety – Thursday, 2/28, 2:00pm EST  Sageworks Risk Management Consultants ◦ surety@sageworks.com ◦ (919) 851-7474  CliftonLarsonAllen ◦ ◦ ◦ ◦ Todd.Sprang@CliftonLarsonAllen.com (630) 954-8175 Thomas.Danielson@CliftonLarsonAllen.com (612) 376-4795