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POAS before ROAS:
Maximising your profit
Rich Ingilby
@rjfingilby
Rich Ingilby
Client Growth
Manager
Experience
across a range
of budgets/
industries
#searchadvertisingshow
#poasbeforeroas @rjfingilby
Why this?
#searchadvertisingshow
#poasbeforeroas @rjfingilby
What is POAS?
1
How to set it up
2
Questions
3
Today
#searchadvertisingshow
#poasbeforeroas @rjfingilby
What is POAS?
(and why is it better?)
#searchadvertisingshow
#poasbeforeroas @rjfingilby
For all products:
Revenue - Cost of Goods Sold
Cost of Advertising
What is POAS?
CPC
CP
A
POAS
ROAS
History
of
Metrics
#searchadvertisingshow
#poasbeforeroas @rjfingilby
POAS encodes more information
Optimises to:
Number of
conversions
Total value of sales
Real value of sales
CPA ROAS POAS
#searchadvertisingshow
#poasbeforeroas @rjfingilby
ROAS:
3.1
POAS:
-2.4
ROAS:
4.3
POAS:
3.2
Benefits of POAS
1. Optimises to specific
product performance
2. Better
optimisation to
dynamic
performance
Benefits of POAS
Product
feed
integration
Product
splits
But you need to solve
some dependencies
first
3. More information
in reporting
Benefits of POAS
4. Levelling barriers
between finance
and marketing
Important PPC
metrics for us
Important PPC
metrics for your CFO
● Profit
● CVR
● Revenue
● ROAS
● CPA
● Brand recall
Benefits of POAS
#searchadvertisingshow
#poasbeforeroas @rjfingilby
...ultimately, more profit
Measuring a metric
means that algorithms
can maximise it
#searchadvertisingshow
#poasbeforeroas @rjfingilby
BUT...
POAS is not suitable for
all businesses and all
campaigns
And POAS is not the
golden goose
How to set up POAS
#searchadvertisingshow
#poasbeforeroas @rjfingilby
We’ll run through
the big two
Match these
up with
basket data
Attach
value to
products
1 2
Apply it to
bidding*
(*If possible)
3
#searchadvertisingshow
#poasbeforeroas @rjfingilby
1. Import values into your product feed
#searchadvertisingshow
#poasbeforeroas @rjfingilby
2. Apply the value to basket data
aw_merchant_id
aw_feed_country
aw_feed_language
{event_name
=
“purchase”,
}
Plus:
- value
- currency
- shipping
2. Apply the value to basket data
id price
items: {
}
quantity
aw_merchant_id aw_feed_country
{event_name
= “purchase”,
}
aw_feed_languag
e
Plus:
- value
- currency
- shipping
country
(‘event’,
‘purchase’,{
}
language
(+ usual
values)
id price
items: {
}
quantity
2. Apply the value to basket data
Merchant
Center
Cost to
make it
How
many?
Tag Reporting
Profit
Item ID
2. Apply the value to basket data
#searchadvertisingshow
#poasbeforeroas @rjfingilby
2. Apply the value to basket data
#searchadvertisingshow
#poasbeforeroas @rjfingilby
3. Apply it in your bidding
1. Create your Conversion Goal
2. Create a new bid strategy
3. Select ROI target
4. Select your Conversion Goal
5. Apply your strategy
0. Wait a little bit
3. Apply it in your bidding
3. Apply it in your bidding
1. Create your
Conversion Goal
2. Create a new bid strategy
3. Select ROI target
4. Select your Conversion Goal
5. Apply your strategy
(Revenue - CoGS)
Cost
#searchadvertisingshow
#poasbeforeroas @rjfingilby
3. Apply it in your bidding
1. Create your Conversion Goal
2. Create a new
bid strategy
3. Select ROI target
4. Select your Conversion Goal
5. Apply your strategy
#searchadvertisingshow
#poasbeforeroas @rjfingilby
3. Apply it in your bidding
1. Create your Conversion Goal
2. Create a new bid strategy
3. Select ROI
target
4. Select your Conversion Goal
5. Apply your strategy
#searchadvertisingshow
#poasbeforeroas @rjfingilby
3. Apply it in your bidding
1. Create your Conversion Goal
2. Create a new bid strategy
3. Select ROI target
4. Select your
Conversion Goal
5. Apply your strategy
#searchadvertisingshow
#poasbeforeroas @rjfingilby
3. Apply it in your bidding
1. Create your Conversion Goal
2. Create a new bid strategy
3. Select ROI target
4. Select your Conversion Goal
5. Apply your
strategy
#searchadvertisingshow
#poasbeforeroas @rjfingilby
4. Last but not least:
Test Test Test
#searchadvertisingshow
#poasbeforeroas @rjfingilby
Why POAS?
Measuring a metric
means that algorithms
can maximise it
#searchadvertisingshow
#poasbeforeroas @rjfingilby
Thank you for listening
richard@ayima.com
#searchadvertisingshow
#poasbeforeroas @rjfingilby

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POAS before ROAS: How you could be maximising your returns by optimizing to profit

Editor's Notes

  1. START WITH THE WHY - WHY THIS TOPIC Chose POAS because the heart of PPC for me is getting the right data, and getting the data right - inexorable movement towards automation
  2. CoGs = the cost of manufacturing those particular products The topline is essentially profit
  3. Progression of getting more and more information encoded
  4. Different products cost different amounts to make Massively different profit margins for bikes and tents (unless the bike is stolen and being sold on gumtree) What you want to do is obviously sell more of the tent, because it’s worth more
  5. I.e. wherever a product has a changing value, and a profit that changes - and this isn’t just about the product - Hotel rooms/ Flights per customer might become more profitable to run in certain seasons which isn’t reflected in the price
  6. Product feed integration - regularly synced with latest prices- If your products change value constantly Product splits, e.g. hotel chain with optional extras, flights with additional baggage. inflight meals, car hire- this needs to be present in tracking The extras need to be specific products This is where some issues come in that we’ll talk about later
  7. Break even is always 1 - simple to understand POAS encodes huge level of detail that you can hone in on to figure out what is going on Profit for products/ over time Cart data- what is the average number of items in the cart (cart level tracking) Actual products that sold- rather than what ad the user clicked through
  8. Mainly an issue when agency/client relationship and CoGS isn’t taken into consideration- profit typically is spoken about less regularly
  9. Minimisation / Maximisation algorithms are the basis of bidding optimization Typically you see ad spend fall, conversions remain roughly level, and revenue rise - Figures change per industry and spread Depends how suitable it is for the business itself
  10. If it adds nothing extra E.g. same CoGs for every product make POAS meaningless Or if every conversion has the same value (e.g. you’re optimizing to PDF downloads) OR, if you’re bidding for brand awareness… Ability to allocate a CoGS High fashion similarly - most of the cost is branding and brand spend is split across the whole range (e.g. flights the COGs depends on number of passengers - Have you ever been on a flight where you’ve looked around and thought “there’s no way this is profitable” - ( though you could take route averages) TELECOMS - Majority of the cost is building the network in the first place (campaigns targeting phone contract sales yes - because cost of a handset) Who thinks it is relevant? Show of hands
  11. It’s not the golden goose, POAS, like other metrics (ROAS etc), is still not taking into account Customer lifetime value - it’s profit at the point of sale Offline purchases- how much are people spending post-booking - e.g. Hotel booking and restaurant, in-flight purchases, ticket sales (where most of the value is behind the bar) Not impossible, I’d say you can identify a reasonable average, if possible split by each product. Just make sure it isn’t being double counted.
  12. The principle is mainly the same
  13. The principle is mainly the same
  14. This will differ based on where your product feed is managed - here is the raw value that needs to be populated Note that this takes on the same currency as your price- if running in multiple currencies then calculate different Cost for each You could also submit this via the content API
  15. Within your global site site tag, (looks very similar for floodlight tag if using SA360, we’ll run through in a bit) This is the code that fires when a purchase is triggered, so event_name = purchase First you have to match the order as a whole to the right merchant center account, country and language then…..
  16. Within this you also have the items Basket level data lets it match up what items have been purchased Items submitted within an array within the values This is what lets it match up to what items have been purchased - item 123 ID = must match up with the merchant center
  17. Within floodlight event snippet, it looks more like this Again massively depends on your set up.
  18. This is the ultimate marrying up of data Item ID is key to connecting the two, much like setting up the dynamic remarketing, Google has no way of connecting merchant center to your tag unless the item ID exists in both.
  19. These columns should return values
  20. So we have to get a little creative This is not possible in Google Ads, unless you add profit metrics into the tags. But, you probably don’t want to give this information away… Add profit into your data layer to fire at the check out Set up a profit conversion action masquerading as revenue (- numbers are going to be tough) Bid to it Very happy to talk to people afterwards about this, get in touch
  21. Wait a little while for the conversion data to build up. Historic data is key to all bid strategies
  22. This is important- create the conversion column I’ll run through this process in SA360 as it’s the most straightforward, Google Ads it *is* possible but you have to get more creative, happy to talk about this afterwards Create this using only your floodlight tag OR google ads tag, and the Merchant center value - this means that you can still use auction time bidding (which is worthwhile) Should be as simple as Revenue minus Profit (this is ultimately all that Google needs to know to optimise the bidding) Do not do any complicated formulas around (Price * Quantity )- (COGS * Quantity), as this will rule out auction time bidding if you’re using ads conversion data) Won’t go into too many details here as this really depends on the way you’ve set it up, rather than bore everyone to death with 5 different ways of implementing
  23. Baby steps - though everyone here I’m sure is a pro Also SA360 keep on changing their bid strategy creation process, so even though I made this deck a couple of weeks ago, this might already be outdated
  24. Select revenue Auction time bidding, this is where it pays off
  25. This is where our earlier step of only using floodlight really helps
  26. I don’t need a screenshot of this. Click Go. This leads to a bonus step
  27. Always test it against your current set-up. Prove the business case and make it clear whether it works well for your specific business
  28. Ultimately it comes down to this