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Entrepreneurs
don’t trust
big banks
How can we change that?
Banks struggled to build
relationships with SMEs
before the credit crunch.
After? They became even
more transactional.
This matters.
There are 5.2 million SMEs in the UK.
99% businesses are small.
Big companies who want a share of
the SME market, need to think like
and understand small companies.
We brought together ..
Global or UK Heads of SME / Mid
Market Channel from leading banks,
big 4 firms and global telecoms, with
CEOs from fast-growth SMEs
to examine the problem and find
solutions.
This is what
we learnt…
Public and corporate policy
decision-makers think SMEs are
one big group.
They’re not.
They are put in a category based
on revenue thresholds.
That doesn’t work.
“The relationship between banks and
SMEs had become transactional.
We made a decision to invest in the
infrastructure. We looked to build not
the products - but the people.
We’ve recruited 600 relationship
managers”.
Challenger Bank
“We looked for people who were
good listeners and were patient,
who were willing to understand the
needs of the business.”
Challenger Bank
“Over 5-6 visits they try to
understand the business. They don’t
assume the product they want when
they walk through the door based
on their revenue.”
We attribute our growth [700%] to
the relationship approach not the
products or the price”.
Challenger Bank
And it works ...
“We recently acquired a business and
interviewed a few banks. I was shocked
at how they came in – they were
slagging each other off.
One stood out [Challenger Bank]. They
came at it from a different angle. They
weren’t interested in where we were
now. They were interested in where are
you going? What’s our next move?”
SME CEO
“All banks need to be better at
understanding at the outset ‘How
do you want to be served? What
does a good relationship looks like?’
and then frame everything from
there”.
Challenger Bank
“My question for all my people is
‘What are you doing to help
small businesses increase
revenue”’
That’s the heart of growing a SME –
not what it saves or other hygiene
factors”
Global telecom
From the mouths
of small business
owners…
“We have fingers in lots of
pies. We’ll miss the boat if
we don’t move fast”
SME CEO
“We LOVE to work with companies
who are agile, fast, decisive.
We want to deal with the people
who are making the decisions.
That doesn’t change whether they
are big or small”
SME CEO
“I hate dealing with companies who
are trying to sell a product.
Here’s what I don’t understand
about big corporates …. The first
thing I would do with MY client is to
actually understand their business!”
SME CEO
“The best relationships are when the
advisors are solely looking at things
through my eyes”.
SME CEO
“Our lawyer is sensational. I can talk
to him about anything day or night.
He thinks like an entrepreneur. I can
run an idea by him. Nothing is ever
too much trouble.
He genuinely cares about our
business and how they can help.
Everything is about the long term, not
about the now”.
SME CEO
The thing is, most
corporates KNOW…
They need to focus on needs
not products.
It’s all about relationships.
They’ve made progress but
need to do more.
So why don’t SMEs feel any
more like trusting their money
with big corporates?
Could it be…
“The problem is, our most talented
people don’t dream of a career in
SME sales”
How we emotionally reward our
people…?
Global telecom
“How do you define the heroes of the
organisation? If you define them as
the people who win the BIG business
accounts then you can’t expect
people to get excited about this long
term SME play.
We’ve created a separate part of the
business where heroism is
recognised differently”.
Challenger Bank
“Part of the problem is how people
are rewarded.
In a more pyramid structure, you
get rewarded more by going up the
chain and more zeros on the client
cheques”
Big Four Accountancy
How we recruit our people?..
“Entrepreneurs on the whole will tend
to use right brain thinking. Corporate
employees use left brain thinking.
That’s the mismatch”
Global Consultancy
Entrepreneurs are emotionally
attached to their business. In
corporates there is no emotional
attachment, just an overarching risk
profile – the risk to me/my career”
Global Consultancy
How we develop our people?..
“The sad thing is that our graduates
come in as energetic passionate
intelligent individuals and then we
create, four years later, an android
type person who stops talking to
people.
There is something about the
structure which stifles those
energetic people.”
Big Four Accountancy
How we encourage our people to
think?..
“Good relationships challenge my
thinking.
You’re never going to get anywhere
if you don’t challenge your client”
SME CEO
How we support our people to
behave?..
“Big companies focus on DOING skills
– functional stuff. How do you do a
loan? How do you do the fact sheet?
What comes out a lot from this
conversation is the BEING skills.
Spending time understanding. We’ve
somehow de-emphasised this”.
Big Four Accountancy
The cultures we create?..
“Whether you’re a £5bn
relationship manager or
a window cleaner, it’s all
about the passion for
your job”
SME CEO
“It’s all about TRUST.
Yet we don’t understand and
encourage this.”
Global Consultancy
Trust is a formula:
competence x sincerity = trust
(i.e. Do I like them?)
Left brain thinkers
look for competence
first and THEN
they’ll be interested
in sincerity
Right brain thinkers
look for sincerity
first and
competence comes
LATER (or is a
given)
“We don’t address this culturally so
our people can’t engage”
Global Consultancy
SMEs crave:
UNDERSTANDING
INTEREST
CHALLENGE
FLEXIBILITY
DECISIVENESS
PASSION
TRUST
So, what’s the
answer?
Change how we structure:
Smaller portfolio sizes
“..Or they’ll never have enough time to spend with businesses”
“There’s no point in saying ‘it’s about REALLY understanding
their business’ then hitting them with massive sales targets..”
Change how we control:
Put decision making in the
hands of the people who
know the clients best – so
they can work FAST
Entrepreneurs want to work with the people who make
the decision. Provide a framework in which flexibility and
speed is possible for relationship managers – within a
framework that is safe for the corporate.
Change how we recruit:
Very different relationship
manager profile
Open, interested, passionate, brave, right-brain requires
a new recruitment strategy. This takes time, perhaps five
years?
Change how we reward:
Where heroism is recognised
differently
Where relationship and not
immediate return is
recognised
Change how we focus:
On growing the client not
selling a transaction–the source
of future value to the bank.
On our strengths – offer SMEs
access to our networks and
knowledge not our product.
Change how we lead:
“If you want people to care about their business clients
personally, care about them personally. Have them round
for dinner. Spend time with them”
Change who we ARE:
Given purpose and autonomy
adults at work will use their
talent to create value
So let’s let them go ahead and do that…
“The world is changing. Millennials
want to be part of the new
ecosystem, the new economy, the
fast cool entrepreneurial businesses.
The groundswell is coming...
but it hasn’t reached the top of large
organisations yet”.
think. entrepreneur
Join the debate @contexis
Get inspired www.contexis.com
Be heard - attend the next debate, email
jrosling@contexis.com

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The Big SME Banking debate: how to create VALUE not rapport with SME customers

  • 2. Banks struggled to build relationships with SMEs before the credit crunch. After? They became even more transactional.
  • 3. This matters. There are 5.2 million SMEs in the UK. 99% businesses are small. Big companies who want a share of the SME market, need to think like and understand small companies.
  • 4. We brought together .. Global or UK Heads of SME / Mid Market Channel from leading banks, big 4 firms and global telecoms, with CEOs from fast-growth SMEs to examine the problem and find solutions.
  • 5. This is what we learnt…
  • 6. Public and corporate policy decision-makers think SMEs are one big group. They’re not. They are put in a category based on revenue thresholds. That doesn’t work.
  • 7. “The relationship between banks and SMEs had become transactional. We made a decision to invest in the infrastructure. We looked to build not the products - but the people. We’ve recruited 600 relationship managers”. Challenger Bank
  • 8. “We looked for people who were good listeners and were patient, who were willing to understand the needs of the business.” Challenger Bank
  • 9. “Over 5-6 visits they try to understand the business. They don’t assume the product they want when they walk through the door based on their revenue.” We attribute our growth [700%] to the relationship approach not the products or the price”. Challenger Bank
  • 10. And it works ... “We recently acquired a business and interviewed a few banks. I was shocked at how they came in – they were slagging each other off. One stood out [Challenger Bank]. They came at it from a different angle. They weren’t interested in where we were now. They were interested in where are you going? What’s our next move?” SME CEO
  • 11. “All banks need to be better at understanding at the outset ‘How do you want to be served? What does a good relationship looks like?’ and then frame everything from there”. Challenger Bank
  • 12. “My question for all my people is ‘What are you doing to help small businesses increase revenue”’ That’s the heart of growing a SME – not what it saves or other hygiene factors” Global telecom
  • 13. From the mouths of small business owners…
  • 14. “We have fingers in lots of pies. We’ll miss the boat if we don’t move fast” SME CEO
  • 15. “We LOVE to work with companies who are agile, fast, decisive. We want to deal with the people who are making the decisions. That doesn’t change whether they are big or small” SME CEO
  • 16. “I hate dealing with companies who are trying to sell a product. Here’s what I don’t understand about big corporates …. The first thing I would do with MY client is to actually understand their business!” SME CEO
  • 17. “The best relationships are when the advisors are solely looking at things through my eyes”. SME CEO
  • 18. “Our lawyer is sensational. I can talk to him about anything day or night. He thinks like an entrepreneur. I can run an idea by him. Nothing is ever too much trouble. He genuinely cares about our business and how they can help. Everything is about the long term, not about the now”. SME CEO
  • 19. The thing is, most corporates KNOW…
  • 20. They need to focus on needs not products. It’s all about relationships. They’ve made progress but need to do more.
  • 21. So why don’t SMEs feel any more like trusting their money with big corporates?
  • 23. “The problem is, our most talented people don’t dream of a career in SME sales” How we emotionally reward our people…? Global telecom
  • 24. “How do you define the heroes of the organisation? If you define them as the people who win the BIG business accounts then you can’t expect people to get excited about this long term SME play. We’ve created a separate part of the business where heroism is recognised differently”. Challenger Bank
  • 25. “Part of the problem is how people are rewarded. In a more pyramid structure, you get rewarded more by going up the chain and more zeros on the client cheques” Big Four Accountancy
  • 26. How we recruit our people?.. “Entrepreneurs on the whole will tend to use right brain thinking. Corporate employees use left brain thinking. That’s the mismatch” Global Consultancy
  • 27. Entrepreneurs are emotionally attached to their business. In corporates there is no emotional attachment, just an overarching risk profile – the risk to me/my career” Global Consultancy
  • 28. How we develop our people?.. “The sad thing is that our graduates come in as energetic passionate intelligent individuals and then we create, four years later, an android type person who stops talking to people. There is something about the structure which stifles those energetic people.” Big Four Accountancy
  • 29. How we encourage our people to think?.. “Good relationships challenge my thinking. You’re never going to get anywhere if you don’t challenge your client” SME CEO
  • 30. How we support our people to behave?.. “Big companies focus on DOING skills – functional stuff. How do you do a loan? How do you do the fact sheet? What comes out a lot from this conversation is the BEING skills. Spending time understanding. We’ve somehow de-emphasised this”. Big Four Accountancy
  • 31. The cultures we create?.. “Whether you’re a £5bn relationship manager or a window cleaner, it’s all about the passion for your job” SME CEO
  • 32. “It’s all about TRUST. Yet we don’t understand and encourage this.” Global Consultancy
  • 33. Trust is a formula: competence x sincerity = trust (i.e. Do I like them?)
  • 34. Left brain thinkers look for competence first and THEN they’ll be interested in sincerity Right brain thinkers look for sincerity first and competence comes LATER (or is a given)
  • 35. “We don’t address this culturally so our people can’t engage” Global Consultancy
  • 38. Change how we structure: Smaller portfolio sizes “..Or they’ll never have enough time to spend with businesses” “There’s no point in saying ‘it’s about REALLY understanding their business’ then hitting them with massive sales targets..”
  • 39. Change how we control: Put decision making in the hands of the people who know the clients best – so they can work FAST Entrepreneurs want to work with the people who make the decision. Provide a framework in which flexibility and speed is possible for relationship managers – within a framework that is safe for the corporate.
  • 40. Change how we recruit: Very different relationship manager profile Open, interested, passionate, brave, right-brain requires a new recruitment strategy. This takes time, perhaps five years?
  • 41. Change how we reward: Where heroism is recognised differently Where relationship and not immediate return is recognised
  • 42. Change how we focus: On growing the client not selling a transaction–the source of future value to the bank. On our strengths – offer SMEs access to our networks and knowledge not our product.
  • 43. Change how we lead: “If you want people to care about their business clients personally, care about them personally. Have them round for dinner. Spend time with them”
  • 44. Change who we ARE: Given purpose and autonomy adults at work will use their talent to create value So let’s let them go ahead and do that…
  • 45. “The world is changing. Millennials want to be part of the new ecosystem, the new economy, the fast cool entrepreneurial businesses. The groundswell is coming... but it hasn’t reached the top of large organisations yet”.
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