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Time to Attack Iran
Really? Push them back.. an attack will open World War III
Time to Attack Iran
Opponents of military action against Iran assume a U.S. strike would be far more
dangerous than simply letting Tehran build a bomb. Not so, argues this former

2. Pentagon defense planner. With a carefully designed attack, Washington could
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Craig Chemaly lol attack Iran, huh? Because our other battles are going so
well, right?
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Thomas J. Miller, CLM, CSSMBB EXACTLY!
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Agha A the whole world is waiting for outcome of US elections .Not that Trump
or Hillary any different policies for Iran. US foreign policy is not made by
democrats or republicans but by their patrons in industry and the intellectual
whores hired by the big money known as think tanks. As I sit in the cockpit 100
metres from Iranian border I see a middle east sharply divided by Bush Juniours
unwitting brilliant strategic stroke of having divided shias and sunnis in middle
east and islamic world. Iranians are enjoying the post sanctions world but they
are now more arrogant and more overbearing. There is an Islamic saying that
Allah Hates arrogance and if this is true Iranians are guilty of the crime of
arrogance. We can hear the drums of war .If it is not USA , it would be Arab
versus AJAM and Pakistan versus India ,Russia versus USA , a resurgent
China.The world is far more complicated and ambiguous today than it was in

3. 2000.Craig Chemaly Thomas J. Miller, CLM, Thomas J. Miller, CLM,
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Agha A Peter Kassebaum James Craven Marie Black Jim Angleton
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Peter Kassebaum An insane idea to even float that the US should attack
Iran. They hate us, so what. That does not mean that we should attack them.
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Agha A the tragedy is that nations have followed insane ideas as history
wanted them to crumble into dust sometimes ! Peter Kassebaum
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A HafIZ Iran is Allies of the United States of America now. What we got when
we attached on Iran last time. Did we win. USA got to formulate a policy that
stabilize our relations with the region. We have seen since the 2bd world war
that American can not win the war or reslove any conflict in any region without
the help of local leadership and winning the heart and minds of local people.
USA needs Iran by all means necessary. When the Republican and their
presidential candidates threaten Iran before they are elected how one expect

4. that Iran comes forward and makes USA, their Allies. USA has produced
psychopath personality in Republican who's major job remain hate-mongering
and warmongering in order to make money through their mitary complex and
our nation may go in hell for sever economic depression, unemployment,
poverty and hunger but war is their necessary means to make themself
billioners overnight lime Cheney's and associate greed. Does Americans allow
these habitual warmonger to go forward of killing the innocent people?
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James Craven Folks CFR has been pushing this line forever in Foreign Affairs;
go back to the overthrow of Mossadegh, the exact kind of "Third Force" model
the USG had been pushing in Vietnam (neither colonialism nor communism) and
how did that turn out? China 1949 onward, Guatemala 1954 how did that turn
out? Cuba? Vietnam? Santo Domingo 1965? One blowback after another, usually
within 5 years, the opposite of purported intended effects of regime change ops,
Libya, Syria on and on. This is the CFR-Bilderberg boys and a few girls and Billary
are part of it and some shills for it are Charlie Rose, PBS, CBS, Bilderberg,
Richard Haas and some others.Show less
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A HafIZ The only way, the American can save America by electing Bernie
Sanders as our next President of the united States of America? Republican is
piece of shit and had not produced a single candidates who focus on the internal
public issues. Why the foreign policy is considered by Republican to always go to
war? Because, it is easy money getter overnight at the cost of public. In Iraq
war, by Chaney and associates and black water where is looting money, Gold
and Diamonds and other's lucrative items from the common citizens and after
looting, killing their whole families in order to destroy evidence of stealing and
looting the foreign assets. Are these sole reasons that Republican focus reasons

5. to wage wars against innocent citizens, first creating the dectators and kept
their citizens hostages under their dictatorship than creating a reasons against
the same dectators to wage a war against their innocent citizens is a ludicrous.
How American be liked by foreign countries to make any friend instead of all
enemies through the world. Creating and using NATO and using them where
ever warmonger wants to initiate war to promote wars and serk family and
friends interests at the cost of public where public suffers negative externalities
inside their country. America desperately needs a leader like Bernie Sanders to
change the negative directions and put our nation for progressive agenda.Show
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Craig Chemaly A Haflz, your suggestions are as asinine as the insinuation
that we should attack Iran. I don't even know where to start. 1) Iran is NOT an
ally of the U.S., including in the war on Terror. 2) Bernie Sanders (who has no
shot at the White House anyway) is for policies that would cripple our economy,
gut our military, and expose U.S. citizens to grave, grave danger.
Here is a good analogy for the Clinton/Trump race: U.S. citizens are looking at
two cups. One cup, Clinton, we can be certain contains poison. The second cup
(Trump) is filled with an unknown liquid. Refusing to drink either cup results in
being force-fed the poison. What do you do? Show less
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A HafIZ Craig. I respect you opinion, although I disagree with you. It's is
always a tendency of the both parties establishment to lie, cheat and shodow
the most popular public opinion and promote the most dummy version of
unpopular candidates who are having an immoral character. Incompetent. Liar
and untrustworthy. Both Hillary and Trump are trash and American has discarded
them except ugly establishment. Bernie Sanders is the first leader in the

6. American History who first time focused the common man issues of 90%
American. Pl. Understand that 90% American of middle class vote and now
Bernie Sanders has mobized poor and showed them why their voting is
important in all the elections. Bernie Sanders is winning in WV, and remaining all
the States, how Hillary will win over Sanders when Sanders is winning the
remaing States. In regard to the super delegates, if Hillary wins on this basis I
will sue the DNC on the basis of violating the American Constitution and
promoting super delegates over earned delegates. The choice belongs to the
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Agha A US is under no strategic threat from Iran .US is being manipulated by
Mickey mouse small dogs like Israel,Saudi Arabia and Gulf states who have their
own issues with Iran. AA HafIZ Thomas J. Miller, CLM, Thomas J. Miller, CLM,
CSSMBB Peter Kassebaum
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A HafIZ Agha. Well said and we all agree with your truth.
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James Craven So many people are repeating these memes from the
mainstream media who are nothing but a bunch of coiffed teleprompter readers,
reading words they mostly do not know or understand written for them by
others with agenda their shills could never fully imagine. What I do not
understand is why so many Iranians do not hate us for a long list of good

7. reasons even before the overthrow of a freely-elected nationalist government,
Mossadegh and his replacement with a fascist thug, fraud, puppet of foreign
imperial interests and of course as JFK put it so succinctly even as he himself did
not heed his own aphorism: "Those who make peaceful change impossible make
violent revolution inevitable."Show less
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Mahdi Ghomipour What you think about Iran?????!!!!
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James Craven Every Iranian official I have met, every Iranian academic I
have met, not only in America and Canada, but at conferences all over the
world, as well as my own friends some of whom are devout Muslims, are very
bright, capable, honest, not dogmatic but very patient and willing to listen, do
not use profanity or forced certitude to make their point, and make our own
officials look like the fools they are. Who started the Iran-Iran War, why and with
what costs? And yet Iranians have worked with our own SOF in CT and anti-
drugs for years and after 9-11 came and expressed their condolences and
offered to help in CT. These are hidden facts not to hide sources and methods
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8. Thomas J. Miller, CLM, CSSMBB I like the Iranians, smart and have BIG
BALLS
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Thomas J. Miller, CLM, CSSMBB If someday we get into Battle With Them
(Hope Not), they will be formidable and with that I give respect, even if I have to
slice their throats in Combat......
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Frank Moczulewski Just a thought: If it comes to war with Iran, it is possible
that any war with Iran would be coupled with sleeper cells being activated in the
west (U.S. etc.) . Even if there aren't designated, dedicated sleeper cells,
sympathizers will have the same effect.
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Marie Black Attacking Iran would be another HUGE mistake. They haven't
committed offensive maneuvers warranting an attack. If they close anything
connected to or through their waterways, it is their right. Make alternative
routes, instead of start WWIII.
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Frank Moczulewski http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-geo-politics-of-the-
strait-of-hormuz-could-the-u-s-navy-be-defeated-by-iran-in-the-persian-
gulf/28516
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JORDAN LEWIS RING matter of time when Israel will end
debate....threatened with nuke Israel will take out Iran in one day Israel will
never allow Iran nuke never now folks Obama placed the stage . no matter what
Israel alone can level Iran to stone age....why? Iran threatened the extinction of
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10. Frank Moczulewski Then there's
this: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/423852/radical-islam-iran-isis-
apocalytpic-messiah-mahdi
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Craig Chemaly Marie, just FYI, it is not "their right" to close anything they
like. Globally, countries only "own" 12 miles out from their shores. The rest is
international waters. This is why we 'allow' Russian nuclear subs off the coast of
the U.S. pretty much every minute of every day....nothing we can do.
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James Stewart Correct, Mr. Chemaly. You're referring to the country's
Exclusive Economic Zone, as defined in the "Law of the Sea".
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Mahdi Ghomipour Which country has attacked Iran? Iran (Leader and
Peoples) have one Target. Make economic better but Saudi Arabia can't stamina.
Excuse me for English.
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Mahdi Ghomipour Never Iran attack to Israel. But Arab Countries Attacked
to Israel few Years ago.
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Mahdi Ghomipour Arab Countries Attacked to USA in 2000. Don't see? Arab
Countries attacked to Iran By Saddam. Don't see? Compatriot Killed by Saddam
and This Arab Countries. Don't see blood Iranian soldiers?
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Timothy Linnomme Attacking Iran is as easy as destroying their oil
processing facilities. Iran's economy would tank in a month.
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Agha A By and large US is moving towards strategic accomodation with Iran
which was a larger US collective strategic decision based on many years thought
reflection and negotiations.Israel , Saudi Arabia and Iran haters may debate this
heatedly like small bacteria and germs swimming in a tea cup but the die has
been cast .For a long time US tax payers money has been wasted on mickey
mouse states in middle east .Now there is a realisation in the US that US policy

12. has to be elevated and lifted above the gutters of middle east.The Muslims are
going to be involved in a long sectarian arab versus ajam conflict and will now
look on the US as a judge and as a referee. israel will have to find an indigenous
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James Coleman There are a lot of thoughtful, reasoned assessments on
whether or not to attack Iran. However, this isn’t one that requires thought. Sen.
Tom Cotton (R-AR) was paid a lot of money by ECI (Bill Kristol’s group) to get this
done. We’re going in. Reading Reuters, BBC, or whatever was on my thread,
during the P5+1, to a man or woman, Laurent Fabius (France), Frank-Walter
Steinmeier (Germany), Federica Mogherini (Italy) and Phillip Hammond (Great
Britain) fully understood that November 8, 2016 was an important date. The
Establishment has made it clear that it wants this. One of the reasons Donald J.
Trump is receiving some resistance is they think he might not give them Iran.
But they’re trying. The same players are trying to wedge their way in, i.e., Dan
Senor, Reuel Marc Gehrecht, Jamie Fly, Paul Wolfowitz, etc.—Iran is really the
only game in town. Inspections, “WMDs”, “Mushroom Cloud”, “Yellow Cake”,
etc., will once again be at the top of the news. We’re getting in—no doubt.Show
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Agha A I salute Colleague Mr James Coleman , a man of high honour and
INTEGRITY for EXPOSING PROSTITUTES IN US POLITICS and humbly promote him
as Group Manager.MrJames Coleman has restored my faith in USA. James
Coleman
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Felix Gregorian Fixing Iran is an unfinished leftover work on the palette
since 1979. There are a lot of great people in Iran who need a clear signal, that
Iran will return to normalcy and respect and abide by international rule of law
and have total and unconditional relations with Israel and USA.
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Mary E. Strayhorne This is a 4 year old story (notice at the top it says
"January/February 2012" issue. This is part of what is wrong with Internet
scholarship.
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James Craven Before you judge you clearly did not read the whole missive.
The piece from 2012 was specifically chosen and noted as such (you need to
work on your own before commenting on the scholarship of others) as it is from
2012, from CFR's journal Foreign Affairs, and it is proxies and shills for CFR in
2016 using those exact words "Time to Attack Iran" using mostly the same
discredited pretexts then as now. That is the point, they revive and pimp this
line every four years or so and have been since the early 1990s when that
fascist thug Netanyahu was saying in 1992 they had solid intel Iran was less
than two years away from nukes even as the Iranians said they consider Nukes
anti-Islamic and were being called liars by a provable and serial liar. It is an "old
story" every 4 years...Show less
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James Craven I put out the cover of Foreign Affairs 2012 with this title Time
to Attack Iran specifically because it was from 2012, and I have others going
back to Clinton's time with the same exact words used never mind the words
"time to ATTACK"? No US Security Council?
http://www.4thmedia.org/2013/02/rule-of-law%e2%80%94or-of-the-ruthless-why-
law%e2%80%94international-or-otherwise/ an
dhttp://www.4thmedia.org/2012/11/%e2%80%9cjust-war%e2%80%9d-and-the-
interrelated-predicates-and-precedents-of-nuremberg/ And this is from the
establishment's "tip of the spear" "time to ATTACK", time to threaten WWIII, time
to destabilize and terrorize a people we have been terrorizing since the
overthrow of Mossadegh, time to set the world on fire because We are
Americans, special people and nation, blessed by God to rule the earth, to
civilize and evangelize, God is on our side, just ask us...Show less
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James Craven Typo, UN Security Council? Declaration of War? Debate on
Declaration of War? What have the Iranians done to justify talk of being an
existential threat, time to attack an act of war without even a declaration of war
or debate? And these creatures are all over the TV with the likes of Charlie Rose,
PBS, CBS, ABC, NBC and a lot more shilling for them with little opposition or
exposure of their tradecraft, hidden connections, agenda and masks. Tom put
this out because it is important because it reveals a mindset and agenda of
some creatures with a lot of power, connections and hidden as well as open
pimps and shills.Show less
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Thomas J. Miller, CLM, CSSMBB Actually my engine picks up all new
material, so it might have been a revise and re-released document.....But if not,
my Bad....
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James Craven Tom, I too put out the cover of Foreign Affairs containing that
article knowing full well and making the point it was written in 2012, because
now in 2016 the same exhortations, using the same words, are coming again, in
2016, from the same elements and their shills, and the implications are the
same or worse: that I am sure is also what you were reacting to and that the
piece is 4 years old has nothing to do with bad or incompetent scholarship and
that kind of comment is at best gratuitous and ill-informed but its dating does
not make your posting it a bad. In my case it was quite intentional to show same
shit different day. The main point from this distraction is the language and
people who cannot find many of these places on a blank map, these days have
no problem urging and celebrating stuff we properly hanged some Nazi and
Japanese war criminals for and most of them at CFR and their types never even
wore a uniform but they promote war and war crimes. That is the point and no
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James Coleman Thank you Agha A. Felix Gregorian, James Craven kind of
calls you out for conveniently going back to “1979”—try two decades earlier is
what he’s suggesting—to be clear. 1979 was a blossom, not a seed. Western
plant, Shah Pahlavi was not savory to the Iranian palate—as opposed to your

16. term, “palette”. James, your point about Netanyahu is noted. However, Barack
Obama and David Cameron have not performed as well as George W. Bush and
Tony Blair. Netanyahu will have great impact on who’s the next President of the
United States. Frankly, he must to obtain his objectives.Show less
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Agha A Apart from this discussion below are my observations as a regular
observer having an office on Iranian border---Pakistani government pants down
surrender with Iran---Pakistani government pants down surrender with Iran
In Musharraf era Pakistani state was firm with Iran .
Iranians dared not close the border or misbehave.
Zardai was pants down with Iran and so is Nawaz Sharif altough Pakistani is
getting nothing inreturn.Today in 2016 life is hell for Baloch who want to
visit Iran.As per agreement Baloch living on Pakistani border can visit Iran on
Rahdari which is free.But recently Iranian government has demonstrated
extreme high handedness which pakistani state passively accepts , although
Pakistani government can stop export of foodstuffs and cattle and livestock to
Iran and make Iran starve or at least eat expensive food.Pakistani traders have
no financial security in Iran and are regularly cheated.Show less
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A HafIZ Iran is US Allies and any attack on Iran be considered attack on USA.
Period.
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17. James Coleman Agha A . . . . your points are noteworthy. There is no doubt
you do your homework. Iranians are a little skittish of Pakistan. Iran is
surrounded by a lot of nukes to include India. However, Israel’s nukes worry
them most--coupled with the weird kinship of Benjamin Netanyahu and King
Salman bin Abdulaziz Al Saud. A HaflZ, obviously, there is a lot of cooperation
between Rouhani and Washington—for really obvious reasons. Frankly, the U.S.
is somewhat cornered to omission at the moment. “Allies” has strong
connotations. Right now, I’d say, “mutually beneficial”. Stay tuned.Show less
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Agha A my close observations of US higher commanders in Afghanistan and
how incompetently they conducted operations led me to the conviction that the
US would fail in Syria as early as 2011. Syria was much smaller than Iran so any
US ADVENTURE in IRAN would be a grand faux pas and a grand PEE in the
PANTS at the strategic level. Iraq and Libya were isolated cases and the US
would never get such unopposed entries ever again.