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WHEN THE TIGERS FOUGHT THE THISTLE: THE
TRAGEDY OF COLONEL WILLIAM BAILLIE OF THE
MADRAS ARMY by Alan Tritton Review by: Kaushik Roy
A FLAWED AND MISLEADING REVIEW
WHEN THE TIGERS FOUGHT THE THISTLE: THE TRAGEDY OF COLONEL
WILLIAM BAILLIE OF THE MADRAS ARMY by Alan Tritton Review by: Kaushik Roy A
FLAWED AND MISLEADING REVIEW
• December 2021
• DOI:
• 10.13140/RG.2.2.26021.83680
• Project:
• MILITARY	HISTORY
• Agha	H	Amin
TO. :--
The Journal of the Society for Army
Historical Research
SUBJECT – A FLAWED AND MISLEADING REVIEW
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WHEN THE TIGERS FOUGHT THE THISTLE: THE
TRAGEDY OF COLONEL WILLIAM BAILLIE OF THE
MADRAS ARMY by Alan Tritton Review by: Kaushik Roy
Dear Sir
This review lacks depth and contains various assertions which
are debatable.
Firstly the reviewer lacks knowledge of Mysore wars.
Thus he fails to bring out the most serious reason for Bailie’s
disaster i.e Munro’s refusal to agree to HM 71 Highlanders (HM
73rd
) that Bailie should junction with Munro at Madras rather
than conjeveram . This is well substantiated by Sir J. W
Fortescue in his British Army history.
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The reviewer’s assertion that Hyder “surrounded” 1
Munro is
incorrect . The right description was that Hyder had blocked
Munro and prevented him from directly marching towards
Bailie’s support.
The reviewer offers no critique of the false claim of the books
author the Colonel Fletcher was jealous of Bailie being a Royal
Army officer.2
All credible British accounts including Fortescue describe in
detail how Fletcher took bold risks and successfully evaded both
Hyder Ali and Tipu to reinforce Bailie
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BAILLIE OF THE MADRAS ARMY by Alan Tritton Review by: Kaushik Roy
-“ Munro himself was surrounded by Haider's main force”.
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Page-350-Ibid
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The reviewer’s description that Munro sent Bailie with a small
detachment 3
is also highly inaccurate and fallacious.
Describing 1000 men the size of an infantry battalion as. A
detachment is highly inaccurate. A detachment is generally a
company or two company force in the British Indian warfare
context of that time. A seasoned reviewer calling 1000 men , a
detachment is mind boggling.
An Indian reviewer exaggerating “few courageous Britons”
totally ignoring and whitewashing Madras Army Indians who
fought with their British comrades and were much praised by a
person no less than the officially supported historian of the
British Army as below :--- “yet both British and sepoys
Formed in hollow square, stood firm, and repulsed attack after
attack, driving back Hyder’s cavalry, with a carnage , that shook
the nerves of even his best troops”.4
The reviewer’s rather verbose description on page 351 is also
highly inaccurate and fallacious.He claims that “ Bailie was left
with a few courageous Briton’s, the 73rd
Highland’s grenadier
companies” . This is a false assertion .Bailie had HM 73rd
Grenadiers as well as the British Companys Private Madras
Infantry Battalions troops who fought as well as 73rd
and
suffered equally high casualties.Further Bailie had 3,312 men of
Madras Army who also suffered high casualties.The book
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“he merely sent a small detachment under Colonel Fletcher”- WHEN THE TIGERS FOUGHT
THE THISTLE: THE TRAGEDY OF COLONEL WILLIAM BAILLIE OF THE MADRAS ARMY by Alan
Tritton Review by: Kaushik Roy
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Page-446- THE HISTORY OF THE BRITISH ARMY-VOLUME THREE – SECOND PART- London
1911.
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Historical Records of 1st
Madras Europeans states that all
sepoys which numbered over 3000 were killed or taken
prisoner, but an Indian Kaushik Roy only mentions “a few
courageous Britons”.
REVIEWERS MOST SERIOUSLY FALSE AND FLAWED CLAIM
THAT SIR EYRE COOTE WAS SUCCESSFUL AFTER DEATH OF
HYDER ALI ;--
On page-353 Mr Kaushik Roy makes a shockingly false claim:---
“Mysore was finally tackled by Eyre Coote ,commander of the
Madras Army, after the death of Haidar” .5
THIS IS A TOTALLY NON FACTUAL CLAIM.
Real tangible facts are as below:---
1. Sir Eyre Coote defeated Haidar in all major battles in 1782
before Haidar died.
2. Sir Eyre Coote sailed back to Madras on 28 September
1782 6
, well before Haidars death.
3. Sir Eyre Coote returned to Madras to command forces on
24th
April 1783 but died on 27th
April 1783 , so there was
no question of Sir Eyre Coote tackling anything after
Haidar’s death as Mr Kaushik Roy fallaciously claim.
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BAILLIE OF THE MADRAS ARMY by Alan Tritton Review by: Kaushik Roy
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Page-COOTE BAHADUR- A LIFE OF GENERAL SIR EYRE COOTE- By E.W Sheppard-Published by
Werner Laurie-London -1956.
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4. Lastly Sir Eyre Coote was Commander in Chief Bengal Army
as well as commander in chief India and not commander
of the Madras Army which was a lower command. Yes he
did assume command of all troops in Madras but was
essentially C in C India and commander in chief of Bengal
Army.
TO CONCLUDE WHILE THE REVIEWER THINKS THAT THE BOOK
UNDER REVIEW HAS LIMITED VALUE , THIS HUMBLE SCRIBE
STRONGLY FEELS THAT THE REVIEW BY MR KAUSHIK ROY HAS
EVEN MORE LIMITED VALUE , SINCE IT IS FALLACIOUS ,
INACCURATE AND CONTAINS MANY FALSE ASSERTIONS.
HIS TOTALLY WHITEWASHING MADRAS INDIAN UNITS AND
MADRAS PRIVATE EUROPEAN UNITS OF THE BRITISH
COMPANY IS ALSO A DISSERVICE TO THE SACRIFICES OF THESE
TWO MILITARY OUTFITS.
Kind regards
Major Agha H Amin (Retired)
Old PAVO Cavalry
10 December 2021
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Flawed military history review critiqued for inaccuracies

  • 1. 1 1 WHEN THE TIGERS FOUGHT THE THISTLE: THE TRAGEDY OF COLONEL WILLIAM BAILLIE OF THE MADRAS ARMY by Alan Tritton Review by: Kaushik Roy A FLAWED AND MISLEADING REVIEW WHEN THE TIGERS FOUGHT THE THISTLE: THE TRAGEDY OF COLONEL WILLIAM BAILLIE OF THE MADRAS ARMY by Alan Tritton Review by: Kaushik Roy A FLAWED AND MISLEADING REVIEW • December 2021 • DOI: • 10.13140/RG.2.2.26021.83680 • Project: • MILITARY HISTORY • Agha H Amin TO. :-- The Journal of the Society for Army Historical Research SUBJECT – A FLAWED AND MISLEADING REVIEW
  • 2. 2 2 WHEN THE TIGERS FOUGHT THE THISTLE: THE TRAGEDY OF COLONEL WILLIAM BAILLIE OF THE MADRAS ARMY by Alan Tritton Review by: Kaushik Roy Dear Sir This review lacks depth and contains various assertions which are debatable. Firstly the reviewer lacks knowledge of Mysore wars. Thus he fails to bring out the most serious reason for Bailie’s disaster i.e Munro’s refusal to agree to HM 71 Highlanders (HM 73rd ) that Bailie should junction with Munro at Madras rather than conjeveram . This is well substantiated by Sir J. W Fortescue in his British Army history.
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  • 4. 4 4 The reviewer’s assertion that Hyder “surrounded” 1 Munro is incorrect . The right description was that Hyder had blocked Munro and prevented him from directly marching towards Bailie’s support. The reviewer offers no critique of the false claim of the books author the Colonel Fletcher was jealous of Bailie being a Royal Army officer.2 All credible British accounts including Fortescue describe in detail how Fletcher took bold risks and successfully evaded both Hyder Ali and Tipu to reinforce Bailie 1 Page-351 - WHEN THE TIGERS FOUGHT THE THISTLE: THE TRAGEDY OF COLONEL WILLIAM BAILLIE OF THE MADRAS ARMY by Alan Tritton Review by: Kaushik Roy -“ Munro himself was surrounded by Haider's main force”. 2 Page-350-Ibid
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  • 6. 6 6 The reviewer’s description that Munro sent Bailie with a small detachment 3 is also highly inaccurate and fallacious. Describing 1000 men the size of an infantry battalion as. A detachment is highly inaccurate. A detachment is generally a company or two company force in the British Indian warfare context of that time. A seasoned reviewer calling 1000 men , a detachment is mind boggling. An Indian reviewer exaggerating “few courageous Britons” totally ignoring and whitewashing Madras Army Indians who fought with their British comrades and were much praised by a person no less than the officially supported historian of the British Army as below :--- “yet both British and sepoys Formed in hollow square, stood firm, and repulsed attack after attack, driving back Hyder’s cavalry, with a carnage , that shook the nerves of even his best troops”.4 The reviewer’s rather verbose description on page 351 is also highly inaccurate and fallacious.He claims that “ Bailie was left with a few courageous Briton’s, the 73rd Highland’s grenadier companies” . This is a false assertion .Bailie had HM 73rd Grenadiers as well as the British Companys Private Madras Infantry Battalions troops who fought as well as 73rd and suffered equally high casualties.Further Bailie had 3,312 men of Madras Army who also suffered high casualties.The book 3 “he merely sent a small detachment under Colonel Fletcher”- WHEN THE TIGERS FOUGHT THE THISTLE: THE TRAGEDY OF COLONEL WILLIAM BAILLIE OF THE MADRAS ARMY by Alan Tritton Review by: Kaushik Roy 4 Page-446- THE HISTORY OF THE BRITISH ARMY-VOLUME THREE – SECOND PART- London 1911.
  • 7. 7 7 Historical Records of 1st Madras Europeans states that all sepoys which numbered over 3000 were killed or taken prisoner, but an Indian Kaushik Roy only mentions “a few courageous Britons”. REVIEWERS MOST SERIOUSLY FALSE AND FLAWED CLAIM THAT SIR EYRE COOTE WAS SUCCESSFUL AFTER DEATH OF HYDER ALI ;-- On page-353 Mr Kaushik Roy makes a shockingly false claim:--- “Mysore was finally tackled by Eyre Coote ,commander of the Madras Army, after the death of Haidar” .5 THIS IS A TOTALLY NON FACTUAL CLAIM. Real tangible facts are as below:--- 1. Sir Eyre Coote defeated Haidar in all major battles in 1782 before Haidar died. 2. Sir Eyre Coote sailed back to Madras on 28 September 1782 6 , well before Haidars death. 3. Sir Eyre Coote returned to Madras to command forces on 24th April 1783 but died on 27th April 1783 , so there was no question of Sir Eyre Coote tackling anything after Haidar’s death as Mr Kaushik Roy fallaciously claim. 5 Page-351- WHEN THE TIGERS FOUGHT THE THISTLE: THE TRAGEDY OF COLONEL WILLIAM BAILLIE OF THE MADRAS ARMY by Alan Tritton Review by: Kaushik Roy 6 Page-COOTE BAHADUR- A LIFE OF GENERAL SIR EYRE COOTE- By E.W Sheppard-Published by Werner Laurie-London -1956.
  • 8. 8 8 4. Lastly Sir Eyre Coote was Commander in Chief Bengal Army as well as commander in chief India and not commander of the Madras Army which was a lower command. Yes he did assume command of all troops in Madras but was essentially C in C India and commander in chief of Bengal Army. TO CONCLUDE WHILE THE REVIEWER THINKS THAT THE BOOK UNDER REVIEW HAS LIMITED VALUE , THIS HUMBLE SCRIBE STRONGLY FEELS THAT THE REVIEW BY MR KAUSHIK ROY HAS EVEN MORE LIMITED VALUE , SINCE IT IS FALLACIOUS , INACCURATE AND CONTAINS MANY FALSE ASSERTIONS. HIS TOTALLY WHITEWASHING MADRAS INDIAN UNITS AND MADRAS PRIVATE EUROPEAN UNITS OF THE BRITISH COMPANY IS ALSO A DISSERVICE TO THE SACRIFICES OF THESE TWO MILITARY OUTFITS. Kind regards Major Agha H Amin (Retired) Old PAVO Cavalry 10 December 2021
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