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Kelly McCausey: Youāre back with Kelly and Iām joined now by my featured guest Carrie
Wilkerson The Barefoot Executive. Welcome Carrie.
Carrie Wilkerson: Thanks Kelly. Thanks for having me.
Kelly McCausey: Carrie I am so happy to have you here on Solo Smarts. I feel like I know you
from watching your videos and listening to your podcast and now Iāve been listening to your
book on my iPhone. This is exciting.
Carrie Wilkerson: This is fun. Thatās a great thing that you point out ā thatās the reason that
people doing business online should do podcasts and videos because then your audience already
feels like they know you even before they meet you.
Kelly McCausey: Yes. Definitely. So, I feel like I already know you but for my listeners who
may not what do you really want people to know about Carrie?
Carrie Wilkerson: I think the most important thing to know about the personality of Carrie
Wilkerson The Barefoot Executive is that the truth is Iām just Carrie like youāre just Kelly. While
I spend a large portion of my work and my life telling people how phenomenal and extraordinary
and exceptional they are, the truth is we all are in our ordinariness. Iām just a normal girl. Iām
just a girl next door. Iām just a little sister, the big sister, the mom, the lady you pass at the
grocery store. Thatās what I most want people to know because I think sometimes when youāre in
the public eye or the publishing eye or on video that people tend to put you up on a pedestal. The
fact is one of two things ā Iām going to lower that pedestal down to the same height that
2. everybody else or Iām going to raise you up on a pedestal right next to me so that we can see eye
to eye.
Kelly McCausey: I think thatās great that thatās what you want people to realize because
sometimes people do put you up on a pedestal and they think well thatās Carrie, that works for
Carrie because sheās so famous sheās so awesome, that wouldnāt work for me.
Carrie Wilkerson: Exactly. The other thing they need to know too is Iām a wife, Iām a mom of
four ranging in age from 4-15, and one of those beautiful kids also has extreme special needs
which takes up a lot of time, energy and resources. Some are in school some are not in school. I
started my businesses when I was just had two and they were little bity and a husband that
traveled full-time with his career. So, the fact is I run up against the same obstacles that
everybody else does when theyāre trying to build their business and work at home. I donāt have a
staff. I donāt have a nanny. I donāt have a housekeeper. I donāt have legions of people at my
bidding.
Iām building my business the same way that youāre building yours and other people are building
theirs and thatās one choice at a time, one day at a time and honestly as I can, as I can fit it in or
as I can do without the slates to handle it.
Weāre all the same in that regards so be really careful about discounting people and their
perceived success or thinking that well if my life were like hers that my business could grow like
hers does. The truth is a lot of the things that Iāve dealt with and that Kelly has dealt with, you
donāt want to do deal with. You really do want to be dealing with your own stuff and not what
everybody else has been blessed with.
Kelly McCausey: You donāt have a housekeeper?
Carrie Wilkerson: Nope.
Kelly McCausey: Oh my goodness!
Carrie Wilkerson: I donāt. I was using somebody every other week and she was helping a little
bit with the laundry and the fact is Iāve got the four kids here and we do chores on Saturday
mornings so the kids do help some. It was almost like with the delegation of it, it was creating
even more work like on the laundry and all that. So the truth is itās just us, we donāt have a
housekeeper, we donāt send it out to be done, weāre just a normal family.
Kelly McCausey: Well Iām impressed.
Carrie Wilkerson: Itās not like Martha Stewart lives here or anything. You can tell there are
four kids here. Itās comfortable, itās lived in, itās fun and I just put my tennis shoes on one foot at
a time like everybody else.
Kelly McCausey: Carrie you talk a lot about finding your why for being in business and Iām
curious how has your own why changed over the years.
3. Carrie Wilkerson: A lot of people get really wrapped up in oh I donāt know if Iām going to be
motivated by this or forever or oh but my why is different than yours. The truth is mine evolves
on a constant basis. I started my business not because I wanted to make a lot of money, not
because I was really passionate and certainly not because I ever aspired to have my own
business, I really didnāt. I was a high school teacher and happy with what I was doing and loving
it. Iāve been there and done that with a lot of that but we adopted siblings and so literally
overnight my priorities changed. I had an 8 month old and I had a 26 month old instantly.
No matter how good I was at my job or how great it was they came from a situation where they
needed a full-time mom, they needed full-time care and I was not willing to delegate that out. I
have no issue if women want to be working full-time outside the home ā thatās their choice but
for these specific kids at this specific point in my life I knew I needed to be with them. But the
fact was Kelly we were very reliant on my paycheck. My husband was a young growing
executive at the time so we were very reliant on those checks. So I started my business just so I
could afford to stay home, just so I could offset the loss of that income. The rest as they say is
history.
That was my initial why, was to be with them and be available for all their therapy appointment
and their care appointments and all those kind of things, for their growth and development. Then
as they got older and more self-sufficient it became that my husbandās industry was changing and
he was gone a lot and he was missing so much of their lives that then my goal became letās bring
him home, letās give him some options. That became my why ā affording us options as a family,
we live out in the middle of nowhere itās not exactly commuter distance from anything
physically and that wouldnāt be an option if he were still working in the big city.
Then my why evolved to ok we built up some medical debt and some business debt and some
other things so my why became financial solvency. We really wanted to be financially
independent.
It evolves at every new step of business. We added two more kids along the way (the old
fashioned way) and so then my why was very passionately that I could be totally available for
them like I had the older two. Now that my sonās special needs are more extensive part of my
why is being able to afford the best care and options for him and not having to rely on insurance
and not having to rely on status quo for him. Weāre talking about $3,500.00 a month there so
thatās a huge portion of my why is the best care and opportunity possible.
So, it evolves. It doesnāt always have to be the same thing. Youāll notice that while some of those
things that money affords, the fact is my why is not about money. My why is not about
popularity or status or fame or fortune ā any of those things ā it really is very much based on my
values and the things that are core important to my family.
Kelly McCausey: Carrie, hearing the progression if we backed all the way back up to that first
why was being home with your two young adopted kids. What if your husband had a fabulous
career that was at no risk and he loved it, do you think you would have just built a little business
and kind of stayed in that place?
4. Carrie Wilkerson: Whatās interesting is I am kind of; I guess the word is drivenā¦
Kelly McCausey: Yeah.
Carrie Wilkerson: Youāre agreeing with me so I think you see that. Iāve never been one that has
been happy with mediocre or status quo. Not to say that nothing is ever good enough, itās not
that, itās that if Iām going to do something I feel like I need to play full out. If Iām going to sing,
Iām going to sing full out. If Iām going to raise money or I shared that committee that did our
community Christmas one year; it was a huge event on the square and it wasnāt enough to do it
the way they had done it the year before I wanted it to earn more money and I wanted it to be
bigger and reach more communities.
I think just intrinsically Iām a little driven to excellence that way. But what happened as I grew
my little publishing company I had, it seemed to be about I just want to grow this bigger for
more money but I really saw that that I was influencing other business owners and freeing them
up in what they were doing so it became more about scale of impact. As a matter of fact at one
point Kelly my husband did administration for me part-time for the company, some of the admin
stuff, and he got a map out on the wall and he would put push pins in where I had clients. He
would say look, look how you are affecting Colorado. Look how this is spreading over there and
so that became a motivator for me, of building a platform so that other people could see it was
possible for them too ā to work at home, to influence their family.
It stopped being about the money a long time ago. Once I got out of debt, the money really didnāt
cross my mind very much. It was really more about influencing people to their greatness. Itās like
what I talked about the pedestal earlier ā I spend a large portion of my day being a cheerleader.
Somebody earlier said youāre nothing more than a glorified cheerleader and they were trying to
be catty and insult me and I said thank you, thank you, yeah I never could pull off the outfit in
high school. I wasnāt popular enough for that in high school but if youāre just saying that what
Iām paid to do is encourage people and empower people then Iām ok with that.
If his job had been great and fabulous and all that would I have still grown it? I think so. I think
so because what I thought is that it was making a difference to people and I was always growing
too, learning new things and growing in different ways. Yeah, I think some of us are just driven
in different ways than others and for me it was really about the ripples we were creating.
Kelly McCausey: I think youāre right. You are motivated by something inside not just by need
or situations.
Carrie Wilkerson: Right. The truth is, I could make a lot less than what I make and be good
and be fine economically. And we do, we live on very little ā we give away a lot, we help
support our parents in certain ways and siblings and we sock a lot away for the kids, not to
mention the therapy bills that I mentioned earlier. We donāt live an extravagant lifestyle. We
really donāt. And you know Iām not blowing it on shoes so itās not about that. It really is more of
the ripples in the pond and more of just the message. Itās like if you think about somebody if they
had the cure for cancer would they really be motivated to get the world out because of how much
5. they could make or would they just be excited about eradicating this scary aggressive disease
that we know as cancer?
So I think when youāre really passionate about the problem you are solving for your market that
it doesnāt have to be about the money. Yes you want to be smart and you want to be profitable.
Yes you want to be wise with your time and you want to benefit your shareholders that live in
your house with you. But I think when you really know your why, when you really know what
motivates you youāre more driven than people understand. I am one of the most driven people I
know and I do think itās because Iām so connected to what drives me and why Iām doing what
Iām doing which is funding orphanages and funding adoptions and creating therapy opportunities
and getting the word out about fetal alcohol syndrome and just empowering people to have
choices in their career lives, their business lives.
Kelly McCausey: Carrie when you first began to build a business at home I know youāve done
lots of things prior to that but with what you started doing at first have you always loved what
youāre doing with your online business?
Carrie Wilkerson: This is something that I know that a lot of people teach is that if you find
your passion you never work a day in your life. If you follow your passion the money will
follow. Do what you love and the money will follow. And I think itās absolutely not true. I think
itās absolutely not true. I think in some cases the two can meet and definitely now training and
being author and speaker, yes I love it now but have I ever not loved what I did? Absolutely!
When I was in sales I did not love that but I loved the financial difference I was making.
When I created my publishing company I was sitting literally 12-15 hours a day in between
snack time, Barney time, puzzle time and kid pick up time I was literally putting in those kinds
of hours and overnights and I know youāve done that too to build a business and do newsletters
and stare at a computer screen and serve clients that arenāt always the nicest people. I was never
passionate about newsletters. I was never passionate about that but I was passionate about
freeing those people up in their business with a smart system and I was passionate about the
extra money we could put against our debt and I was passionate about the opportunities and the
freedom that created.
So, yeah I did that for nine years ā didnāt love it but I loved the results from it. I donāt know that
you have to be passionate about selling real estate. I donāt know that you have to be passionate
about fitness even if youāre teaching that but if youāre passionate about the results and passionate
about the problem youāre solving for people and passionate about the results from it then I think
that can be a really powerful thing. I was really really loving the fact that I knew I was building a
platform and building financial stores so that at some point I could fund the things I was really
passionate about. Fund the orphanages and the adoptions and those things. So, thatās what I was
passionate about and I was willing to do something I didnāt love to create a lifestyle I loved. I
think that initial sacrifice is maybe what a lot of people arenāt willing to do. But I absolutely was
willing to do it for the sake of my kids and willing to do it for the sake of the big picture.
6. Kelly McCausey: I want to turn that into another question. The things that you did that you
didnāt really love did you come up with a strategy for getting out of that work as soon as
possible? Did you actively look for ways to get out of that?
Carrie Wilkerson: Well yeah. I mean after a few years and especially when youāre as driven as
me you tend to trend towards burnout so one of my first strategies was how can I delegate some
of this? Who can I hire to help me with some of this? I was as motivated to get as profitable as
quickly as possible so that I could have some help in a few areas. So training new people was not
my favorite thing, on my team, training new contractors was not my favorite. This was before
video was so easy, this was before screen cast was so easy but basically I incentivized, a
contractor that was working with me I paid her a bonus when she had to train somebody new, I
paid her a bonus when their retention was good and they stayed with us for awhile because the
training really was a drain for me. I really was impatient with it which is funny because Iām a
teacher but I was impatient with that. So thatās one thing I could immediately take off my plate.
Some of the administrative stuff that was repetitive, again this was before a lot of the automated
tools we have now I could delegate on a contractor basis once I was into good profitability.
So, yeah I motivated myself enough to grow big enough that I could pay some outsourcers to
help me with those things. But there was still the everyday client work with a certain level of
clients I had. I worked with the top tier clients in our company. My strategy was to sell the
company, thatās what I thought. When I started working with a new coach they said you know
this is such a great monthly income for you how much would it cost you to promote your
manager to take over the company and just to move you out of the decision making so it would
still keep running? So sure enough thatās what I did. I promoted somebody. I had an exit strategy,
I moved then into developing The Barefoot Executive brand and we kept that company going
about three more years and we just recently sold that company after enjoying three more years of
monthly residual income of me not even touching the company.
Kelly McCausey: Wow. Tell me about The Barefoot Executive, the book. I am listening to it
right now on my iPhone and Iām loving it. I got in about two hours so far.
Carrie Wilkerson: Youāre about 35% finished because itās about a six hour recording if
memory serves. Let me point backwards a minute to what I just said, people that just heard all
that about selling businesses, delegating, promoting blah blah blah ā you guys need to know I
have zero business education. I was not business trained, not business educated. It doesnāt
necessarily come just intuitively but once youāre in the business you can figure out exit strategies
and those kinds of things. I donāt want anybody to think oh I canāt do what she does because I
donāt know anything about selling a business or exit strategies. Thatās all stuff you kind of learn
as you go. I donāt want anybody to be intimidated by that.
The Barefoot Executive is the book I wish I had 12 years ago. Itās the book I looked and looked
for at the library and at the bookstores and it wasnāt around. What I mean is I wanted a book that
said hereās some options of what you can do. I didnāt want a book that said here is my perfect
system or here is the opportunity you can subscribe to or hereās what we do and how you can do
it too. I wanted a book that said who are you, what do you know and how can you translate that
into business? Whatās the best business model for you and how you get started? Where do you
7. find customers? Where are they? And better yet how do you do this on a shoestring? Instead of
go buy a franchise for a hundred thousand dollars and then your problems will be solved.
I wanted a really basic business book that was for non-business people. I needed it in language to
understand with interactive exercises from somebody who had been there and done that and
didnāt have anything to gain by any choice that I went to. Like, everything I read by direct sales
people was recruiting me into their opportunity and they stood to directly benefit from that.
Anybody selling franchises, it was benefiting them somehow. I really just wanted an unbiased
opinion with some facts to back it up on what can I do, whatās out there, what are my
opportunities, how do I get started without spending a fortune.
One of the most powerful parts of the book I think are all the case studies from clients and
friends of mine who really run the gamet of gender and age and experience and their lives are
also different, their business models are also different.
So the book is not really about me. Itās about a lot of different barefoot executives, a lot of
different people that have created their own business on their own terms to suit their life. So,
thatās an overview of the book. It really does come down to some really basic questions like what
have you done in the past? What are some hard things you have gone through in the past? What
are some things you know? What do people ask you about a lot? What are some things people
seek your advice about? How can you translate that into business? Here are five different
business models, which one suits you the best? Which one seems the best fit and how do you
plug in what you know for that model and then where do you find the clients that want what you
have?
I mean it really is almost that simple Kelly. Youāre a third through it and I sum that up as how
youāre understanding it right now?
Kelly McCausey: Yes. The case studies are definitely my favorite part. I love stories. I love real
examples.
Carrie Wilkerson: I didnāt write the caste studies. The case studies really wrote themselves and
submitted them. I donāt have an ego so big that I can say oh wow the caste studies your favorite I
didnāt write that. Iām so glad those are your favorite. Iām so glad those are resonating with you.
This is not one of those success books that youāre going to read and say oh wow Carrie is so
amazing and so awesome and I want to be like her. The book really isnāt about me. Some of my
story is woven in but the book really is about the reader. It really is a different book for every
reader in my opinion.
Kelly McCausey: Lots of people write a book and get published but you have really had great
success with this. Just reading the little plugs and reviews, the famous people who know about
you. I really enjoyed this whole process of getting this interview with you and getting the book
because I got stars in my eyes and that doesnāt happen very often anymore. Thatās just how
impressed I am with you. Iām not trying to blow flowers up anybodyās butt but you really have
set yourself apart from lots of other people doing business books. How did becoming a
successful author change your business?
8. Carrie Wilkerson: Well you know thatās interesting that thatās your perception Kelly. First of
all let me back up a little and tell everybody listening ā Kelly was one of the first people I
followed on Twitter when I got on Twitter. To me Kelly was one of those people already super
established in the work at home space so I watched Kelly and what Kelly did. As a matter of fact
I will never forget; my main domain has a hyphen in it and I will never forget that one day you
Tweeted about people please do not put a hyphen; it just hurts me when people have a hyphen in
their domain. I remember going oh dang it but I canāt get the original one, the people wonāt sell
it. Anyway, I have been watching you and I have been modeling some things after you and really
admiring how you balance things.
So the perception that you have stars in your eyes and famous author, thatās funny to me because
to me I really am still just that girl. I really am just still mom. The fact is, having a book hasnāt
necessarily changed my business yet. Because of the way I developed business enabled me to
publish the book. My presence in social media, my presence on my blog, my presence with video
and podcast, my very visual presence there is what led to the book. The publishers came to me
and said we want you to write a book, do you have a book? Because a lot of people already have
their book, theyāre pitching it, they want people to publish their book. They came to me and I
said well I donāt have one what do you have in mind? They said well we want the starter
business book.
The truth is, client wise I prefer to work with clients that already have other businesses that are
looking at increasing their profitability or increasing their streams of income or maybe switching
models. Start up is not necessarily where I feel like my strength is. However, Iāve been through
that and met a lot of people through that so thatās where they wanted the book to start.
So the truth is the success of my business is what led to the book not vice versa. Now what will
the book probably lead to? It will lead to me meeting and being more established with people
that are not as visible online, people that are more offline. It has established me more with
associate as a credible voice ā people that maybe dismissed me as an online marketer before,
people more in the mainstream. It will establish me more as a speaker. Iām already a speaker but
when you have a book supposedly they think you have even more to say.
What people should know though is that writing a book is not a money maker! Writing a book
can actually be very expensive because of the time it takes to write it, the time it takes away from
your business to market it, etc. So, I donāt ever want anybody to see a book as like an instant
solution. It can be a really really great credibility builder. It can be a really really great influencer
with people that are on the fence about you but the fact is I donāt know that the book in and of
itself is the key to growing your business unless you have a solid business foundation with a
good backend. The book itself is not a business is what Iām trying to say.
Kelly McCausey: I love how you are using the book to draw people back to the web. Now I
was listening on my iPhone out and about so I couldnāt go watch the videos but Iām going to.
Carrie Wilkerson: Somebody told me the videos arenāt on a mobile player yet. Is this true?
9. Kelly McCausey: I didnāt try to look at them yet.
Carrie Wilkerson: Would you do me a favor ā would you try and then email me and let me
know because somebody told me that. Iām not an iPhone user so if thatās the case weāll have
those reworked. I have about 12 videos that supplement the book content to get them to know,
like and trust me. I lead them back to my TV station online a lot. I lead them to other pages
because I really want them interacting with me in social media. I want them to know me. I donāt
want to be an armās length diva. That doesnāt appeal to anybody. If youāre here on my porch with
me, weāre taking off our shoes, weāre just having a conversation, weāre just people. Weāre all just
people. Iāve never really been impressed with a ton of people ā if that makes sense. Iāve never
really thought oh thatās somebody I canāt talk to. I mean everybody is just a somebody and
everybody started the same as somebodyās baby boy or somebodyās baby girl. Itās only when we
start believing our own press that we get full of ourself and think we need to hold people arms
length. Thatās just not how I do business. I donāt think thatās terribly effective.
So, some of the videos I have makeup on, some I donāt. Some I have a ponytail, some I have my
hair done, some I have a ball cap. I mean they really are just base level me talking about business
and how weāve built it and some motivational stuff too.
Kelly McCausey: With all the success that you do have and the fact that your husband gets to
stay home, you got debt free, you can cover your needs and support the charities that you want to
support but you still have that inner drive chugging along. Do you have a plan for like the next
five years? Or do you ever get up and just think whatās next?
Carrie Wilkerson: Thatās a great question. I did mention that I scaled back to just the one
business this year which is helping me a little bit. I do trend towards burnout so Iām trying to be
really careful with this brand. Barefoot Executive Iām transitioning more from it being Carrie
Wilkerson The Barefoot Executive to Carrie Wilkerson the author of The Barefoot Executive.
What youāll see even more over the next year to 18 months is transitioning to teaching people
how to be a barefoot executive so my audience will be the barefoot executive not me.
So, what I will start doing is not necessarily pulling me out of the brand but making the brand
more representative so that if at some points, letās say 10-15 years down the road I decide to sell
the brand or take on VC or something along those lines. Iām way too independent for that it
would either be sell it I would never take anybodyās money and then let them tell me how to do
things letās just be honest. But youāll see a little bit of that.
What I am doing this year is and when you say my husband stays home with me heās my CFO.
Just so everybody knows heās my accountant. He does the books, he does the taxes, he really is
full-time employed by me which is good. Our youngest goes to school next year so if he wants to
get back into the workforce which heās looking at maybe doing, exploring some other things for
himself, then that changes the chemistry around here too.
So, whatās next what I really see in the immediate future is Iāll be doing less coaching. Iām
mentoring fewer people this year as far as individually than I have in the past. Weāre
10. transitioning to more of a focus on BEU which is Barefoot Executive University which is the
mass coaching program, the group coaching program.
What Iām really doing is pulling myself out of the day to day and limiting the number of times
that I have to show up so that I can just build in more time with my teenagers and my little ones.
Iām kind of coming full circle. Itās like we said earlier I can afford to make less but Iām also
looking at some ways to build in some systems ā the memberships, some subscription billing,
those kind of things so that my business still keeps turning even though Iām working less time.
Iāve also changed my speaking model. Iām probably only going to speak about six different
places per year now just because it takes an awful lot to get me on a plane away from the gang.
Iām not doing live workshops anymore, only virtual.
So, yeah Iām just kind of phasing things in a different way and making them even more
immediate to where I am here. As far as whatās next Iām going to self-publish; I say Iām going to
self-publish, I probably will self-publish a trilogy. Iām working on a Barefoot Executive trilogy. I
donāt know if you remember The Rich Dad Poor Dad series.
Kelly McCausey: Yes.
Carrie Wilkerson: It came out as the one book and then he came out with a whole series of
branded books. The Barefoot Executive will be a series of branded books. So, perhaps The
Barefoot Executive on Lead Generation, The Barefoot Executive on Budgeting and Profitability.
We will have a series of Barefoot Executive books and thatās in the works too. They will be very
media interactive as well as books.
If weāre looking at affecting people on a mass basis we have to go out with multimedia and print
in a big way. So, thatās kind of whatās next. Again like I said the books really arenāt about money
it really is about growing your audience and spreading a message. I think thatās probably where
we are headed next.
Kelly McCausey: Youāre boggling my mind.
Carrie Wilkerson: Oh I got an invitation to start a twice a week radio show on a business
network so weāre looking at that. The fact is I think all roads will lead to, this is kind of on the
vision board I never would have said it even before a few months ago but weāve talked to a
couple of producers that really would love the idea of a talk show. A business makeover talk
show or some kind of TV feature. But you know TV has never really been my goal. But you
canāt discount the medium as far as mass influence. So maybe maybe thatās in the 3-5 year plan.
Weāll see.
Kelly McCausey: Well in the beginning of your book you pointed out that even if you have a
great job that youāve got a lot of confidence in itās foolish to rely on one single income stream. I
think that more and more people are realizing that. I do see television being a great; there is
nothing on television that is perfect for us.
11. Carrie Wilkerson: I think the combination of online plus TV plus radio; as many people as we
think are online, theyāre online for limited reasons. Theyāre still not utilizing it to the full. So
they donāt even realize there are online video channels, they donāt even realize what a wealth of
information blogs are or a podcast. If it helps the message to do some segments on some shows,
we might consider that. But like I said Iām not one of those people thatās like oh I really want a
TV show. Iām not narcissistic enough to really be into that but if itās something that I feel like
really spreads the message, grows the business and helps a lot of people then maybe you could
talk me into that. But I would like to get my oldest two out of school and my younger two settled
into school. It really does go back to my primary motives of if itās not great for the shareholders,
if itās not great for the family then I donāt care about fame and fortune and all those things. It
doesnāt matter, at what cost. Itās not my thing really.
Kelly McCausey: Yep. Well gosh I really enjoyed getting to spend this time with you. I could
have asked so many more questions but I curbed myself. Carrie thank you so much for being
here on Solo Smarts.
Carrie Wilkerson: Thanks for having me and for people that do have more questions or for you
Kelly or anybody else in your audience this is really why Iām so engaged in social media - if you
do have more you want to ask me I do manage my own social media. I am the one that answers
you at Twitter Barefoot.com or Facebook Barefoot.com so friend me up there and ask away. If I
can help I absolutely will.
Kelly McCausey: Thatās awesome. The show notes will contain links to everything weāve
talked about, all of the different URLs that Carrie has mentioned and the book so donāt worry go
to SoloSmarts.com and you can find all of that. I promise to hook you up.
Carrie Wilkerson: Awesome.
Kelly McCausey: Carrie thanks again.
Carrie Wilkerson: Thanks Kelly. Yaāll have a great day.
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