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“ Three Things All Practitioners Should Understand” Cary Rodin John “Trey” Webb Timothy J. Watt Presented by: Real Estate and Tax Law Joint Section Breakfast Thursday, November 5, 2009
Debt Forgiveness Income
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What constitutes debt forgiveness income? PAGE  ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],Debt Forgiveness Income
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[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],Debt Forgiveness Income PAGE
[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],Debt Forgiveness Income PAGE
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[object Object],[object Object],Debt Forgiveness Income PAGE
Passive Activities and Real Estate Professionals
PAGE  ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],Agenda
PAGE  ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],Overview of Passive Loss Rules
PAGE  ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],Taxpayers Subject to §469
PAGE  ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],Effect of Passive Activity Limitations
PAGE  ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],Definition of a Passive Activity §469(c)
PAGE  ,[object Object],Example #1
PAGE  ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],Material Participation IRC §469(h)
PAGE  ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],Seven Tests for Material Participation Temporary Treasury Reg. §1.469-5T(a)
PAGE  ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],Material Participation, Cont’d
PAGE  ,[object Object],Example #2
PAGE  ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],Special Rules for Real Estate Professionals IRC §469(c)(7)(B)
PAGE  ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],Real Estate Professionals, Cont’d
PAGE  ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],Election to Aggregate Rental Real Estate Activities
PAGE  ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],Election to Aggregate Rental Real Estate Activities, Cont’d
PAGE  ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],Qualifying as a Real Estate Professional
PAGE  ,[object Object],[object Object],Qualifying as a Real Estate Professional, Cont’d
PAGE  ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],Example #3
PAGE  ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],Documentation of Participation
PAGE  ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],Other Considerations
PAGE  ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],Other Considerations, Cont’d
Business Formation  Choice of Business Entity
PAGE  ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],Agenda
PAGE  ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],Business and Legal Formations
PAGE  ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],Considerations for the Tax Advisor
PAGE  Shopping Center Direct Ownership Profit/Loss Cash Flow No Legal Entity Sole Proprietorship Mr. & Mrs. Jones Taxed Entity
PAGE  ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],Sole Proprietorship
PAGE  Limited Liability Company Mr. Jones Mrs. Jones Shopping Center Profit/Loss  Cash Flow Profit/Loss  Cash Flow 80% 20% Taxed Entity
PAGE  ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],Limited Liability Company
PAGE  ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],Limited Liability Company
PAGE  ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],Limited Liability Company
PAGE  C Corporation Mr. Jones Mrs. Jones Dividends  Cash Flow Dividends   Cash Flow 80% 20% Shopping Center  $10 Million  Tax Level Up to 34% + state tax (C Corporation) Taxed on Dividends
PAGE  ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],C Corporation
PAGE  ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],C Corporation
PAGE  ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],C Corporation
PAGE  ,[object Object],C Corporation
PAGE  Shopping Center $10 Million (FMV) $2 Million ( Basis) 100% C Corporation Mr. Jones (C Corporation) FMV of stock - $7 Million ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],Subject to Estate Tax Subject to corporate level tax if real estate is sold after death
PAGE  S Corporation 100% Hybrid Entities U.S. Individuals Management Company Owner Keep Salaries Low Reduce payroll taxes Shopping Center 75% Corporate Investors 25% LLC
PAGE  Hybrid Entities ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
Characteristics of Entity Types PAGE  Characteristic Sole Proprietorship Single Member LLC LLC Partnership Limited Partnership Limited Liability NO YES YES ( unless provided otherwise) NO (General partners: unlimited liability) YES/NO (General partners: unlimited liability, Ltd Partners: no liability) Levels of Taxation One (Sch. C on 1040) (Sch. E on 1040) One (Sch. C on 1040) (Sch. E on 1040) One (flow thru) (Sch. E on 1040) One (flow thru) (Sch. E on 1040) One (flow thru) (Sch. E on 1040) Certainty of Tax Status Yes Yes  (Check the Box) Disregarded entity Yes  (Check the Box) Like a partnership Yes  (Check the Box) Partnership Yes  (Check the Box) Partnership State Taxation One Depends (Some follow Federal, others treat as separate Corp) Depends (Some tax as Corp., some impose fees) Few / None (may withhold for non-residents) Few / None (may withhold for non-residents)
Characteristics of Entity Types, Cont’d PAGE  Characteristic Sole Proprietorship Single Member LLC LLC Partnership Limited Partnership Self-Employment Tax Yes Yes Depends (active members, yes) Yes Yes / No (General partners: yes, Ltd Partners: no) Participation No Restrictions No Restrictions No Restrictions No Restrictions State Dependent (General partners: no restrictions, Ltd Partners: restricted) Continuity of Life N/A Yes Yes No (Partner withdraws, it’s dissolved – Vote of partners keep it) No (Partner withdraws, it’s dissolved – Vote of partners keep it) Deduct Fringe Benefits Health - Yes Other - No Health - Yes Other - No Health - Yes Other - No Health - Yes Other - No Health - Yes  Other - No
Characteristics of Entity Types, Cont’d PAGE  Characteristic Ltd Liability Ptnship Ltd Liability Limited Ptnship S -Corporation  Professional Corporation C- Corporation Limited Liability State Specific State Specific YES ( unless provided otherwise) YES YES ( unless provided otherwise) Levels of Taxation One (Sch. E on 1040) One (Sch. E on 1040) One (generally) (flow thru) (Sch. E on 1040) Two Two Certainty of Tax Status Yes Yes  (Check the Box) Partnership Yes  (Timely filing of election) Yes  Yes  State Taxation Few / None (may withhold for non-residents) Few / None (may withhold for non-residents) Depends (may withhold for non-residents) Yes Yes
Characteristics of Entity Types, Cont’d PAGE  Characteristic Ltd Liability Ptnship Ltd Liability Limited Ptnship S -Corporation  Professional Corporation C- Corporation Self-Employment Tax Not Clear (probably Yes) Not Clear (probably Yes, General Ptnrs, No Limited Ptnrs) No No No Participation No Restrictions State Dependent (General partners: no restrictions, Ltd Partners: restricted) No Restrictions No Restrictions No  Restrictions Continuity of Life No (Partner withdraws, it’s dissolved – Vote of partners keep it) No (Partner withdraws, it’s dissolved – Vote of partners keep it) Yes Yes Yes Deduct Fringe Benefits Health - Yes Other - No Health - Yes Other - No Health – Yes  Other – No (if >2% owner) Health - Yes  Other - Yes Health - Yes  Other – Yes
PAGE  ,[object Object],Business Formation & Choice of Business Entity

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2009 ABA Real Estate Presentation Final

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  • 48. PAGE Shopping Center Direct Ownership Profit/Loss Cash Flow No Legal Entity Sole Proprietorship Mr. & Mrs. Jones Taxed Entity
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  • 50. PAGE Limited Liability Company Mr. Jones Mrs. Jones Shopping Center Profit/Loss Cash Flow Profit/Loss Cash Flow 80% 20% Taxed Entity
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  • 54. PAGE C Corporation Mr. Jones Mrs. Jones Dividends Cash Flow Dividends Cash Flow 80% 20% Shopping Center $10 Million Tax Level Up to 34% + state tax (C Corporation) Taxed on Dividends
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  • 60. PAGE S Corporation 100% Hybrid Entities U.S. Individuals Management Company Owner Keep Salaries Low Reduce payroll taxes Shopping Center 75% Corporate Investors 25% LLC
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  • 62. Characteristics of Entity Types PAGE Characteristic Sole Proprietorship Single Member LLC LLC Partnership Limited Partnership Limited Liability NO YES YES ( unless provided otherwise) NO (General partners: unlimited liability) YES/NO (General partners: unlimited liability, Ltd Partners: no liability) Levels of Taxation One (Sch. C on 1040) (Sch. E on 1040) One (Sch. C on 1040) (Sch. E on 1040) One (flow thru) (Sch. E on 1040) One (flow thru) (Sch. E on 1040) One (flow thru) (Sch. E on 1040) Certainty of Tax Status Yes Yes (Check the Box) Disregarded entity Yes (Check the Box) Like a partnership Yes (Check the Box) Partnership Yes (Check the Box) Partnership State Taxation One Depends (Some follow Federal, others treat as separate Corp) Depends (Some tax as Corp., some impose fees) Few / None (may withhold for non-residents) Few / None (may withhold for non-residents)
  • 63. Characteristics of Entity Types, Cont’d PAGE Characteristic Sole Proprietorship Single Member LLC LLC Partnership Limited Partnership Self-Employment Tax Yes Yes Depends (active members, yes) Yes Yes / No (General partners: yes, Ltd Partners: no) Participation No Restrictions No Restrictions No Restrictions No Restrictions State Dependent (General partners: no restrictions, Ltd Partners: restricted) Continuity of Life N/A Yes Yes No (Partner withdraws, it’s dissolved – Vote of partners keep it) No (Partner withdraws, it’s dissolved – Vote of partners keep it) Deduct Fringe Benefits Health - Yes Other - No Health - Yes Other - No Health - Yes Other - No Health - Yes Other - No Health - Yes Other - No
  • 64. Characteristics of Entity Types, Cont’d PAGE Characteristic Ltd Liability Ptnship Ltd Liability Limited Ptnship S -Corporation Professional Corporation C- Corporation Limited Liability State Specific State Specific YES ( unless provided otherwise) YES YES ( unless provided otherwise) Levels of Taxation One (Sch. E on 1040) One (Sch. E on 1040) One (generally) (flow thru) (Sch. E on 1040) Two Two Certainty of Tax Status Yes Yes (Check the Box) Partnership Yes (Timely filing of election) Yes Yes State Taxation Few / None (may withhold for non-residents) Few / None (may withhold for non-residents) Depends (may withhold for non-residents) Yes Yes
  • 65. Characteristics of Entity Types, Cont’d PAGE Characteristic Ltd Liability Ptnship Ltd Liability Limited Ptnship S -Corporation Professional Corporation C- Corporation Self-Employment Tax Not Clear (probably Yes) Not Clear (probably Yes, General Ptnrs, No Limited Ptnrs) No No No Participation No Restrictions State Dependent (General partners: no restrictions, Ltd Partners: restricted) No Restrictions No Restrictions No Restrictions Continuity of Life No (Partner withdraws, it’s dissolved – Vote of partners keep it) No (Partner withdraws, it’s dissolved – Vote of partners keep it) Yes Yes Yes Deduct Fringe Benefits Health - Yes Other - No Health - Yes Other - No Health – Yes Other – No (if >2% owner) Health - Yes Other - Yes Health - Yes Other – Yes
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