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Why We Stay With CA/2E (Session 5B)
POLITE NOTICE This presentation is  Copyright © Steve Cast, of Redbourn Business Systems Limited 2011 with all rights reserved.  Please do not distribute this presentation without first confirming with steve.cast@redbourn.co.uk Thank You Why We Stay With CA 2E    Slide 2	 © Steve Cast, Redbourn Business Systems Limited
PLEASE SWITCH OFF YOUR MOBILE PHONES THANK YOU! Why We Stay with CA 2E    Slide 3	 © Steve Cast, Redbourn Business Systems Limited
For a copy of this presentation please visit www.redbourn.co.uk or leave your business card with me, or come and chat with me at the conference … or in the bar.   Please Give Your Feedback feedback@redbourn.co.uk Why We Stay with CA 2E    Slide 4	 © Steve Cast, Redbourn Business Systems Limited
When? Why? Where? Question and Answer  Session At The End Who? Why? How? When? Who? What? Why We Stay with CA 2E    Slide 5	 © Steve Cast, Redbourn Business Systems Limited
Why We Stay with CA 2E OR Why We Stay with CA 2E    Slide 6	 © Steve Cast, Redbourn Business Systems Limited
Introduction Why We Stay with CA 2E    Slide 7	 © Steve Cast, Redbourn Business Systems Limited
2 Support Team Members - Helpdesk  Introduction CA, IBM and Microsoft Business Partner Why We Stay with CA 2E    Slide 8	 © Steve Cast, Redbourn Business Systems Limited
Why We Stay with CA 2E    Background: Why We Chose 2E Pros and Cons of Staying with 2E Modernisation Questions A Plea to CA Why We Stay with CA 2E    Slide 9	 © Steve Cast, Redbourn Business Systems Limited
Why We Stay with CA 2E    Background: Why We Chose 2E Pros and Cons of Staying with 2E Background: Why We Chose 2E Modernisation Questions A Plea to CA Why We Stay with CA 2E    Slide 10	 © Steve Cast, Redbourn Business Systems Limited
Background: Why We Chose CA 2E Relevance Today? Why We Stay with CA 2E    Slide 11	 © Steve Cast, Redbourn Business Systems Limited
Audience: Why Did You Choose CA 2E Impact Analysis Standardised Database  and Processing 4GL Language – Higher Level than RPG Affordability – Economy of Team Size “Sexy and Fun” compared with say RPG National Language Support Generated Languages RPG and COBOL supported Documentation Superior Product Consistent Interface Testing  - Template functions meant less testing Easy to Learn – Quick to Become Proficient Why We Stay with CA 2E    Slide 12	 © Steve Cast, Redbourn Business Systems Limited
Why We Stay with CA 2E    Background: Why We Chose 2E Pros and Cons of Staying with 2E Pros and Cons of Staying with 2E Modernisation Questions A Plea to CA Why We Stay with CA 2E    Slide 13	 © Steve Cast, Redbourn Business Systems Limited
Pros and Cons for Staying with CA 2E Why We Stay with CA 2E    Slide 14	 © Steve Cast, Redbourn Business Systems Limited
Audience:Pros and Cons for Staying with CA 2E Why We Stay with CA 2E    Slide 15	 © Steve Cast, Redbourn Business Systems Limited
Why We Stay with CA 2E    Background: Why We Chose 2E Pros and Cons of Staying with 2E Modernisation Questions Modernisation Questions A Plea to CA Why We Stay with CA 2E    Slide 16	 © Steve Cast, Redbourn Business Systems Limited
Why We Stay With CA 2E Modernisation Questions/Issues It isn't broke so don’t fix it IBM only does “green screen” CA 2E only generates RPG or COBOL and won’t talk to anything else AS/400s never go wrong Adds up to low ongoing investment in CA 2E developed systems, often resulting in a  mistaken, misguided view that  replacement is the only viable option.
Why We Stay With CA 2E Modernisation Question: Which Way Do We Go? Modernise  NOT Replace
 Why We Stay with CA 2E    Case Study 1 CA 2E System.  <300 tables, <1,000 programs RPG. Green Screen.  Running OS V4. Built in 90’s. Small, but highly profitable, insurance company, merged with larger company.   Larger company had no AS/400, all Windows based applications.  IT Manager and Application Support Manager both very dismissive of IBM i.   Why We Stay with CA 2E    Slide 19	 © Steve Cast, Redbourn Business Systems Limited
Audience: Discuss Case Study 1 Why We Stay with CA 2E    Slide 20	 © Steve Cast, Redbourn Business Systems Limited
 Why We Stay with CA 2E    Case Study 2 CA 2E System. <500 tables, <2,500 programs.  RPG. Green Screen and Web.  Running OS V6. 150+ Man Days Support/Development per annum. Specialist solution, highly bespoke.  Multi language.  IT team generally supportive of IBM i.  Attempted to move to LANSA 4 years ago, still in progress.   Why We Stay with CA 2E    Slide 21	 © Steve Cast, Redbourn Business Systems Limited
Audience: Discuss Case Study 2 Why We Stay with CA 2E    Slide 22	 © Steve Cast, Redbourn Business Systems Limited
Why We Stay with CA 2E: Survey    How Do You View the Future of CA 2E? Discuss Why We Stay with CA 2E    Slide 23	 © Steve Cast, Redbourn Business Systems Limited
 Why We Stay with CA 2E    “The reports of my death are greatly exaggerated” R.I.P CA 2E     2011 Mark Twain Why We Stay with CA 2E    Slide 24	 © Steve Cast, Redbourn Business Systems Limited
Why We Stay with CA 2E: A Plea    Dear CA,  We,the undersigned, would like you to raise the profile of CA 2E worldwide and provide a clearer modernisation path.   Furthermore, we ask ….. Why We Stay with CA 2E    Slide 25	 © Steve Cast, Redbourn Business Systems Limited
Why We Stay with CA 2E    Background: Why We Chose 2E Pros and Cons of Staying with 2E Modernisation Questions A Plea to CA Why We Stay with CA 2E    Slide 26	 © Steve Cast, Redbourn Business Systems Limited
Why We Stay with CA 2E    Next Steps Why We Stay with CA 2E    Slide 27	 © Steve Cast, Redbourn Business Systems Limited
 Why We Stay with CA 2E:     CA 2E sites need  a clearer direction for  modernisation CA 2E is a great  development  environment  Can CA help by  marketing CA 2E’s future direction more? Steve Cast,  Founder and Managing Director, Redbourn Business Systems Ltd Why We Stay with CA 2E    Slide 28	 © Steve Cast, Redbourn Business Systems Limited
Why We Stay with CA 2E    Question and Answer Session Why We Stay with CA 2E    Slide 29	 © Steve Cast, Redbourn Business Systems Limited
For a copy of this presentation please visit www.redbourn.co.uk or leave your business card with me, or come and chat with me at the conference … or in the bar.   Please Give Your Feedback feedback@redbourn.co.uk Why We Stay with CA 2E    Slide 30	 © Steve Cast, Redbourn Business Systems Limited
Thank You For Your Time
Why We Stay with CA 2E    Want To Discuss This More? Why We Stay with CA 2E    Slide 32	 © Steve Cast, Redbourn Business Systems Limited

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CA Plex/2E Conference 2011 Session 5B - Why We Stay With 2E by Steve Cast

  • 1. Why We Stay With CA/2E (Session 5B)
  • 2. POLITE NOTICE This presentation is Copyright © Steve Cast, of Redbourn Business Systems Limited 2011 with all rights reserved. Please do not distribute this presentation without first confirming with steve.cast@redbourn.co.uk Thank You Why We Stay With CA 2E Slide 2 © Steve Cast, Redbourn Business Systems Limited
  • 3. PLEASE SWITCH OFF YOUR MOBILE PHONES THANK YOU! Why We Stay with CA 2E Slide 3 © Steve Cast, Redbourn Business Systems Limited
  • 4. For a copy of this presentation please visit www.redbourn.co.uk or leave your business card with me, or come and chat with me at the conference … or in the bar. Please Give Your Feedback feedback@redbourn.co.uk Why We Stay with CA 2E Slide 4 © Steve Cast, Redbourn Business Systems Limited
  • 5. When? Why? Where? Question and Answer Session At The End Who? Why? How? When? Who? What? Why We Stay with CA 2E Slide 5 © Steve Cast, Redbourn Business Systems Limited
  • 6. Why We Stay with CA 2E OR Why We Stay with CA 2E Slide 6 © Steve Cast, Redbourn Business Systems Limited
  • 7. Introduction Why We Stay with CA 2E Slide 7 © Steve Cast, Redbourn Business Systems Limited
  • 8. 2 Support Team Members - Helpdesk Introduction CA, IBM and Microsoft Business Partner Why We Stay with CA 2E Slide 8 © Steve Cast, Redbourn Business Systems Limited
  • 9. Why We Stay with CA 2E Background: Why We Chose 2E Pros and Cons of Staying with 2E Modernisation Questions A Plea to CA Why We Stay with CA 2E Slide 9 © Steve Cast, Redbourn Business Systems Limited
  • 10. Why We Stay with CA 2E Background: Why We Chose 2E Pros and Cons of Staying with 2E Background: Why We Chose 2E Modernisation Questions A Plea to CA Why We Stay with CA 2E Slide 10 © Steve Cast, Redbourn Business Systems Limited
  • 11. Background: Why We Chose CA 2E Relevance Today? Why We Stay with CA 2E Slide 11 © Steve Cast, Redbourn Business Systems Limited
  • 12. Audience: Why Did You Choose CA 2E Impact Analysis Standardised Database and Processing 4GL Language – Higher Level than RPG Affordability – Economy of Team Size “Sexy and Fun” compared with say RPG National Language Support Generated Languages RPG and COBOL supported Documentation Superior Product Consistent Interface Testing - Template functions meant less testing Easy to Learn – Quick to Become Proficient Why We Stay with CA 2E Slide 12 © Steve Cast, Redbourn Business Systems Limited
  • 13. Why We Stay with CA 2E Background: Why We Chose 2E Pros and Cons of Staying with 2E Pros and Cons of Staying with 2E Modernisation Questions A Plea to CA Why We Stay with CA 2E Slide 13 © Steve Cast, Redbourn Business Systems Limited
  • 14. Pros and Cons for Staying with CA 2E Why We Stay with CA 2E Slide 14 © Steve Cast, Redbourn Business Systems Limited
  • 15. Audience:Pros and Cons for Staying with CA 2E Why We Stay with CA 2E Slide 15 © Steve Cast, Redbourn Business Systems Limited
  • 16. Why We Stay with CA 2E Background: Why We Chose 2E Pros and Cons of Staying with 2E Modernisation Questions Modernisation Questions A Plea to CA Why We Stay with CA 2E Slide 16 © Steve Cast, Redbourn Business Systems Limited
  • 17. Why We Stay With CA 2E Modernisation Questions/Issues It isn't broke so don’t fix it IBM only does “green screen” CA 2E only generates RPG or COBOL and won’t talk to anything else AS/400s never go wrong Adds up to low ongoing investment in CA 2E developed systems, often resulting in a mistaken, misguided view that replacement is the only viable option.
  • 18. Why We Stay With CA 2E Modernisation Question: Which Way Do We Go? Modernise NOT Replace
  • 19. Why We Stay with CA 2E Case Study 1 CA 2E System. <300 tables, <1,000 programs RPG. Green Screen. Running OS V4. Built in 90’s. Small, but highly profitable, insurance company, merged with larger company. Larger company had no AS/400, all Windows based applications. IT Manager and Application Support Manager both very dismissive of IBM i. Why We Stay with CA 2E Slide 19 © Steve Cast, Redbourn Business Systems Limited
  • 20. Audience: Discuss Case Study 1 Why We Stay with CA 2E Slide 20 © Steve Cast, Redbourn Business Systems Limited
  • 21. Why We Stay with CA 2E Case Study 2 CA 2E System. <500 tables, <2,500 programs. RPG. Green Screen and Web. Running OS V6. 150+ Man Days Support/Development per annum. Specialist solution, highly bespoke. Multi language. IT team generally supportive of IBM i. Attempted to move to LANSA 4 years ago, still in progress. Why We Stay with CA 2E Slide 21 © Steve Cast, Redbourn Business Systems Limited
  • 22. Audience: Discuss Case Study 2 Why We Stay with CA 2E Slide 22 © Steve Cast, Redbourn Business Systems Limited
  • 23. Why We Stay with CA 2E: Survey How Do You View the Future of CA 2E? Discuss Why We Stay with CA 2E Slide 23 © Steve Cast, Redbourn Business Systems Limited
  • 24. Why We Stay with CA 2E “The reports of my death are greatly exaggerated” R.I.P CA 2E 2011 Mark Twain Why We Stay with CA 2E Slide 24 © Steve Cast, Redbourn Business Systems Limited
  • 25. Why We Stay with CA 2E: A Plea Dear CA, We,the undersigned, would like you to raise the profile of CA 2E worldwide and provide a clearer modernisation path. Furthermore, we ask ….. Why We Stay with CA 2E Slide 25 © Steve Cast, Redbourn Business Systems Limited
  • 26. Why We Stay with CA 2E Background: Why We Chose 2E Pros and Cons of Staying with 2E Modernisation Questions A Plea to CA Why We Stay with CA 2E Slide 26 © Steve Cast, Redbourn Business Systems Limited
  • 27. Why We Stay with CA 2E Next Steps Why We Stay with CA 2E Slide 27 © Steve Cast, Redbourn Business Systems Limited
  • 28. Why We Stay with CA 2E: CA 2E sites need a clearer direction for modernisation CA 2E is a great development environment Can CA help by marketing CA 2E’s future direction more? Steve Cast, Founder and Managing Director, Redbourn Business Systems Ltd Why We Stay with CA 2E Slide 28 © Steve Cast, Redbourn Business Systems Limited
  • 29. Why We Stay with CA 2E Question and Answer Session Why We Stay with CA 2E Slide 29 © Steve Cast, Redbourn Business Systems Limited
  • 30. For a copy of this presentation please visit www.redbourn.co.uk or leave your business card with me, or come and chat with me at the conference … or in the bar. Please Give Your Feedback feedback@redbourn.co.uk Why We Stay with CA 2E Slide 30 © Steve Cast, Redbourn Business Systems Limited
  • 31. Thank You For Your Time
  • 32. Why We Stay with CA 2E Want To Discuss This More? Why We Stay with CA 2E Slide 32 © Steve Cast, Redbourn Business Systems Limited