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BY   TI M   HY L A N D



                                            EVERY SPEAKER
                                         IS DIFFERENT. BUT,
                                        ACCORDING TO MARK
                                        SANBORN, CSP, CPAE,
                                          ALL SUCCESSFUL
                                          SPEAKERS SHARE
                                            ONE KEY TRAIT:
                                       THEY KNOW WHY THEIR
                                          MESSAGE MATTERS,
                                        AND THEY KNOW HOW
                                           TO MAKE IT MATTER
                                                 TO OTHERS.
10 | SPEAKER | January/February 2012
rom a strictly business per-          And yes, even for those who have a
         spective, it is perhaps the single   true passion for being on the podium,
        most important question faced         speaking is a business—and so, it must
      by anyone hoping for a career in        be treated as such.
the speaking business: What, exactly,             “I don’t know why anyone would
are they selling?                             think that starting a speaking business is
   Are they selling a product?                any different than starting any other
   Are they selling a message?                business,” Sanborn says.
   Are they selling a service?                    For Sanborn, a longtime
   Entertainment? Knowledge?                  speaking circuit veteran
   Or are they selling something else         and renowned expert in
entirely—perhaps even an amalgama-            business leadership, that
tion of all of the above?                     key question—“What
   It’s a difficult question to answer, of     am I selling?”—was
course, and in the ever-complex, ever-        answered in the earliest
diverse speaking industry—an industry         days of his career, back
populated by speakers from myriad             when he came to realize
backgrounds, telling myriad stories,          that, for his speaking
sharing myriad messages—there really          career and for the audi-
is no one, universal answer.                  ences he wanted to serve,
   Even still, says Mark Sanborn,             he was selling solutions,
much is clear: All speakers must ulti-        ideas, and problem-
mately ask themselves, and answer,            solving. Or, as he puts
that oh-so-important question.                it, he was selling “an
Because until a speaker knows what            actionable narrative”—
he or she is selling, says Sanborn, they      storytelling that leads
don’t have a business.                        to actionable ideas.


                                                                                           January/February 2012 | SPEAKER | 11
Sanborn has been delivering that           Only 27 at the time, Sanborn says


  THE
                                             actionable narrative for 25 years, and      he understood on a very fundamental
                                             it has served him extremely well. His       level that, because of his relative youth,


 VALUE
                                             list of more than 1,500 clients includes    his business-world audiences—men
                                             such titans as FedEx, Harley Davidson,      and women with years of managerial


OF NOW
                                             KPMG and the U.S. Postal Service,           experience—were going to question
                                             among many others. He is the author         his credentials. Indeed, Sanborn recalls
                                             of seven books and a member of the          feeling that sense of “doubt” hanging
                                             National Speakers Association’s CPAE        over the room in those early days, with
 This is hardly news to anyone: The          Speaker of Hall of Fame®.                   grizzled old vets thinking to themselves,
 economy is stuck in neutral.                    Now, it may not be entirely true to     “What can this kid tell me?”
     The world has yet to recover from       say that Sanborn has succeeded only            “When I went full time, most of
 the global economic collapse of 2008,       because he knows who he is, and what        my audiences were older than me,” he
 and as a result, the speaking industry      he’s selling. And it may not be entirely    recalls. “The average age of a manager
 is enduring some hard times as well.        true that Sanborn’s career has endured      has come down over the years, but
     Mark Sanborn knows this. He knows       for the past two decades only because he    back then, they were all a bit older, and
 the industry has changed, and he            knew the answer to those key questions      I always had this fear that somebody
 knows that more turmoil may yet be          almost as soon as he hit the podium.        would just stand up in the middle of
 ahead. But, Sanborn is not going to              But that knowledge certainly hasn’t    my presentation and say, ‘This is B.S.!
 waste much time thinking about that         hurt, he says.                              He’s 27, I’m 52, and let’s be frank, he
 potential turmoil, or even trying to            Speakers who seek similar success       doesn’t have a clue!’”
 make proactive plans for what might         would be wise to follow his lead.              It was, quite justifiably, Sanborn’s
 be,in another two or three or five years.        “In the world of speaking, we need      biggest fear at the time—the thing that
     Instead, he’ll spend his time worry-    to provide cherry flavor in the cough        kept him awake at night and kept the but-
 ing about what he can control—how           syrup,” he says. “You don’t buy cherry-     terflies churning right up until show time.
 he performs in the present. And he sug-     flavored cough syrup because you like           But in the end, it was a fear that
 gests other speakers follow his lead.
                                             the taste of cherries. You buy it because   served him well. Sanborn anticipated
     “I looked at the front page of The
                                             you have a cough. The flavor just helps      questions he might be asked so that he
 Wall Street Journal today, and you know
                                             the medicine go down. So for me,            had solid answers, and he aimed to turn
 what? I didn’t see any story there that I
                                             I’ve always tried to make sure that my      himself into a true encyclopedia on the
 had any control over,” he jokes.“I saw a
                                             speeches are not about what I did or        topic of business management.
 lot of things that may have an impact
                                             what I learned, but what my audiences          His goal, he says, was to make sure
 on my life and on my investments. But
                                             can learn and what they can do to be        that every time he took to the podium,
 I’m not going to worry about it.”
                                             more successful. That’s the information     he was giving his audience something
     In the end, Sanborn says, each of
                                             the audiences really want to know.”         they wanted to know. Sometimes, he
 us can only really control what we do,
                                                                                         jokes, he probably gave them more than
 and how we perform. So those are the
                                             FUELED BY FEAR                              they wanted to know.
 things we should worry about.
                                             To hear Sanborn tell it, getting to the        “I had a fear that drove me like a
     “I’m not a futurist,” he says. “I’m a
                                             heart of what his audiences “want” to       crazy person,” he recalls. “If anything,
 presentologist. I try to focus on what
 I know for sure is happening. I’m not
                                             know has been at the very center of his     I probably overwhelmed people with
 speaking against the idea of looking        speaking from the very start.               good ideas. I wanted to make sure that
 ahead. I’m just saying it’s awfully hard       Sanborn had been making seminar          nobody left that room and said, ‘You
 to predict the future. “                    presentations for years before he           know, I sat through three hours and I
     He adds: “What do I know for sure?      decided to make speaking his career—        didn’t get much out of this.’ I would
 I know for sure that people will have       he made his first speech, at the age of      rather hear them say, ‘I got too much—
 always have difficulties and challenges      10 during a 4-H contest—but even            my head is spinning.”
 and will always need solutions. I know      though he was an experienced pre-              As a young speaker, Sanborn says he
 that people will aspire to be better. If    senter by the time he went pro, he          was acutely aware that his career was
 I can help them solve their problems,       was most definitely not an experi-           on the line each time he took to the
 then I figure I’ll be fine.”                  enced businessman.                          podium. He knew he had to deliver,


12 | SPEAKER | January/February 2012
I DON’T CARE HOW MUCH
                                              YOU PRACTICE. YOU GET
                                              GOOD, ULTIMATELY, BY BEING
                                              ON THE PLATFORM.

because with each audience, and each           The marketing, sales and network-       internal workings of your car. None of
presentation, his name, his brand          ing skills may not be the most desirable    those dials can be ignored, of course,
and, yes, his business, had a chance to    part of the job. Sanborn understands        because if they are ignored, the car will
grow—or flop.                               for some speakers, including those          eventually sputter, cough and die.
    He was also aware that, in order to    who simply love to speak, the behind-          It’s the same, he says, with business.
get better as a speaker and make more      the-scenes, day-to-day business chores         Once you figure out what your
money as a business, he was going to       probably aren’t fun at all. But those       “dials” are—whether those dials track
have to keep on speaking. And the only     things are just as crucial to long-term     sales or happy clients or gigs or any-
way to keep on speaking, he said, was      success as one’s performance on the         thing else—you have no choice but to
to keep getting more gigs.                 podium. They cannot be ignored.             keep tabs on them … and make adjust-
    The business of speaking and the           “You may not be passionate about        ments when things go wrong.
passion for speaking, he knew, were        marketing, but you’d better do it if           “It’s all about those dials on the
intertwined.                               you want to be able to continue to be       dashboard,” he says. “There are many
    “More often than not, the reality      passionate about speaking,” he says.        different metrics in business—a lot
is that, as a speaker, you’re just going   “That’s the business side of it, and it’s   of things to measure. But ultimately,
to have to be out there,” he says. “In     important. In a way, speaking is an art,    you’d better be looking at those dials.
those early years, you need income, and    and we all know people who are won-         If one of your dials is your number of
you need exposure. It’s through [doing     derful artists who simply can’t make a      bookings, for instance, you’d better be
more speeches] that you get good at        living. Well, there are plenty of people    tracking what kind of effort is required
this. I don’t care how much you prac-      out there who can make a good speech,       to maintain that level of bookings.
tice. You get good, ultimately, by being   but they just can’t make a living off it,   Maybe the question you need to ask
on the platform.”                          either.”                                    yourself is, ‘How do I make sure I’m
                                               Of course, the question that many       top of mind for people who could hire
WATCH YOUR DASHBOARD                       speakers struggle with is how much          me?’ There are many tools out there for
The economy goes up, and the               time they should spend on their             people in our business, but I would say
economy goes down.                         speaking chops, and how much they           that one of the tools you should use is
   Sometimes, business is strong.          should spend on business. As with           the idea of the dials on a dashboard.”
Sometimes, it’s awful.                     that key central question—“What am
   Technology changes, and the             I selling?”—there is no simple answer,
demands of corporate customers             Sanborn says, but over the years he’s
change, and the whims of speaking          come up with a handy visual aid to                        Tim Hyland’s work has
audiences change.                          help people—both speakers and his                         appeared in numerous
   But, as a 25-year survivor of this      audiences—conceptualize that tricky                       publications, including Fast
business, Sanborn is convinced: Once       balance: A car dashboard.                                 Company, Philadelphia City
speakers find their niche and understand        On every dashboard, there is a series                 Paper and Philadelphia Life.
what they’re selling and how to sell it,   of dials and indicator lights, each of      Hyland lives in Flourtown, Pa., and can be
they can endure pretty much everything.    which offers a small window into the        reached at timothyhyland@gmail.com.


                                                                                              January/February 2012 | SPEAKER | 13

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Speaker Magazine Article | Keynote Speaker | Business Speaker

  • 1. BY TI M HY L A N D EVERY SPEAKER IS DIFFERENT. BUT, ACCORDING TO MARK SANBORN, CSP, CPAE, ALL SUCCESSFUL SPEAKERS SHARE ONE KEY TRAIT: THEY KNOW WHY THEIR MESSAGE MATTERS, AND THEY KNOW HOW TO MAKE IT MATTER TO OTHERS. 10 | SPEAKER | January/February 2012
  • 2. rom a strictly business per- And yes, even for those who have a spective, it is perhaps the single true passion for being on the podium, most important question faced speaking is a business—and so, it must by anyone hoping for a career in be treated as such. the speaking business: What, exactly, “I don’t know why anyone would are they selling? think that starting a speaking business is Are they selling a product? any different than starting any other Are they selling a message? business,” Sanborn says. Are they selling a service? For Sanborn, a longtime Entertainment? Knowledge? speaking circuit veteran Or are they selling something else and renowned expert in entirely—perhaps even an amalgama- business leadership, that tion of all of the above? key question—“What It’s a difficult question to answer, of am I selling?”—was course, and in the ever-complex, ever- answered in the earliest diverse speaking industry—an industry days of his career, back populated by speakers from myriad when he came to realize backgrounds, telling myriad stories, that, for his speaking sharing myriad messages—there really career and for the audi- is no one, universal answer. ences he wanted to serve, Even still, says Mark Sanborn, he was selling solutions, much is clear: All speakers must ulti- ideas, and problem- mately ask themselves, and answer, solving. Or, as he puts that oh-so-important question. it, he was selling “an Because until a speaker knows what actionable narrative”— he or she is selling, says Sanborn, they storytelling that leads don’t have a business. to actionable ideas. January/February 2012 | SPEAKER | 11
  • 3. Sanborn has been delivering that Only 27 at the time, Sanborn says THE actionable narrative for 25 years, and he understood on a very fundamental it has served him extremely well. His level that, because of his relative youth, VALUE list of more than 1,500 clients includes his business-world audiences—men such titans as FedEx, Harley Davidson, and women with years of managerial OF NOW KPMG and the U.S. Postal Service, experience—were going to question among many others. He is the author his credentials. Indeed, Sanborn recalls of seven books and a member of the feeling that sense of “doubt” hanging National Speakers Association’s CPAE over the room in those early days, with This is hardly news to anyone: The Speaker of Hall of Fame®. grizzled old vets thinking to themselves, economy is stuck in neutral. Now, it may not be entirely true to “What can this kid tell me?” The world has yet to recover from say that Sanborn has succeeded only “When I went full time, most of the global economic collapse of 2008, because he knows who he is, and what my audiences were older than me,” he and as a result, the speaking industry he’s selling. And it may not be entirely recalls. “The average age of a manager is enduring some hard times as well. true that Sanborn’s career has endured has come down over the years, but Mark Sanborn knows this. He knows for the past two decades only because he back then, they were all a bit older, and the industry has changed, and he knew the answer to those key questions I always had this fear that somebody knows that more turmoil may yet be almost as soon as he hit the podium. would just stand up in the middle of ahead. But, Sanborn is not going to But that knowledge certainly hasn’t my presentation and say, ‘This is B.S.! waste much time thinking about that hurt, he says. He’s 27, I’m 52, and let’s be frank, he potential turmoil, or even trying to Speakers who seek similar success doesn’t have a clue!’” make proactive plans for what might would be wise to follow his lead. It was, quite justifiably, Sanborn’s be,in another two or three or five years. “In the world of speaking, we need biggest fear at the time—the thing that Instead, he’ll spend his time worry- to provide cherry flavor in the cough kept him awake at night and kept the but- ing about what he can control—how syrup,” he says. “You don’t buy cherry- terflies churning right up until show time. he performs in the present. And he sug- flavored cough syrup because you like But in the end, it was a fear that gests other speakers follow his lead. the taste of cherries. You buy it because served him well. Sanborn anticipated “I looked at the front page of The you have a cough. The flavor just helps questions he might be asked so that he Wall Street Journal today, and you know the medicine go down. So for me, had solid answers, and he aimed to turn what? I didn’t see any story there that I I’ve always tried to make sure that my himself into a true encyclopedia on the had any control over,” he jokes.“I saw a speeches are not about what I did or topic of business management. lot of things that may have an impact what I learned, but what my audiences His goal, he says, was to make sure on my life and on my investments. But can learn and what they can do to be that every time he took to the podium, I’m not going to worry about it.” more successful. That’s the information he was giving his audience something In the end, Sanborn says, each of the audiences really want to know.” they wanted to know. Sometimes, he us can only really control what we do, jokes, he probably gave them more than and how we perform. So those are the FUELED BY FEAR they wanted to know. things we should worry about. To hear Sanborn tell it, getting to the “I had a fear that drove me like a “I’m not a futurist,” he says. “I’m a heart of what his audiences “want” to crazy person,” he recalls. “If anything, presentologist. I try to focus on what I know for sure is happening. I’m not know has been at the very center of his I probably overwhelmed people with speaking against the idea of looking speaking from the very start. good ideas. I wanted to make sure that ahead. I’m just saying it’s awfully hard Sanborn had been making seminar nobody left that room and said, ‘You to predict the future. “ presentations for years before he know, I sat through three hours and I He adds: “What do I know for sure? decided to make speaking his career— didn’t get much out of this.’ I would I know for sure that people will have he made his first speech, at the age of rather hear them say, ‘I got too much— always have difficulties and challenges 10 during a 4-H contest—but even my head is spinning.” and will always need solutions. I know though he was an experienced pre- As a young speaker, Sanborn says he that people will aspire to be better. If senter by the time he went pro, he was acutely aware that his career was I can help them solve their problems, was most definitely not an experi- on the line each time he took to the then I figure I’ll be fine.” enced businessman. podium. He knew he had to deliver, 12 | SPEAKER | January/February 2012
  • 4. I DON’T CARE HOW MUCH YOU PRACTICE. YOU GET GOOD, ULTIMATELY, BY BEING ON THE PLATFORM. because with each audience, and each The marketing, sales and network- internal workings of your car. None of presentation, his name, his brand ing skills may not be the most desirable those dials can be ignored, of course, and, yes, his business, had a chance to part of the job. Sanborn understands because if they are ignored, the car will grow—or flop. for some speakers, including those eventually sputter, cough and die. He was also aware that, in order to who simply love to speak, the behind- It’s the same, he says, with business. get better as a speaker and make more the-scenes, day-to-day business chores Once you figure out what your money as a business, he was going to probably aren’t fun at all. But those “dials” are—whether those dials track have to keep on speaking. And the only things are just as crucial to long-term sales or happy clients or gigs or any- way to keep on speaking, he said, was success as one’s performance on the thing else—you have no choice but to to keep getting more gigs. podium. They cannot be ignored. keep tabs on them … and make adjust- The business of speaking and the “You may not be passionate about ments when things go wrong. passion for speaking, he knew, were marketing, but you’d better do it if “It’s all about those dials on the intertwined. you want to be able to continue to be dashboard,” he says. “There are many “More often than not, the reality passionate about speaking,” he says. different metrics in business—a lot is that, as a speaker, you’re just going “That’s the business side of it, and it’s of things to measure. But ultimately, to have to be out there,” he says. “In important. In a way, speaking is an art, you’d better be looking at those dials. those early years, you need income, and and we all know people who are won- If one of your dials is your number of you need exposure. It’s through [doing derful artists who simply can’t make a bookings, for instance, you’d better be more speeches] that you get good at living. Well, there are plenty of people tracking what kind of effort is required this. I don’t care how much you prac- out there who can make a good speech, to maintain that level of bookings. tice. You get good, ultimately, by being but they just can’t make a living off it, Maybe the question you need to ask on the platform.” either.” yourself is, ‘How do I make sure I’m Of course, the question that many top of mind for people who could hire WATCH YOUR DASHBOARD speakers struggle with is how much me?’ There are many tools out there for The economy goes up, and the time they should spend on their people in our business, but I would say economy goes down. speaking chops, and how much they that one of the tools you should use is Sometimes, business is strong. should spend on business. As with the idea of the dials on a dashboard.” Sometimes, it’s awful. that key central question—“What am Technology changes, and the I selling?”—there is no simple answer, demands of corporate customers Sanborn says, but over the years he’s change, and the whims of speaking come up with a handy visual aid to Tim Hyland’s work has audiences change. help people—both speakers and his appeared in numerous But, as a 25-year survivor of this audiences—conceptualize that tricky publications, including Fast business, Sanborn is convinced: Once balance: A car dashboard. Company, Philadelphia City speakers find their niche and understand On every dashboard, there is a series Paper and Philadelphia Life. what they’re selling and how to sell it, of dials and indicator lights, each of Hyland lives in Flourtown, Pa., and can be they can endure pretty much everything. which offers a small window into the reached at timothyhyland@gmail.com. January/February 2012 | SPEAKER | 13