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“EN13201-5
Energy performance indicators
an overview to their application”
Presented by Nick Smith IEng MILP MIES
Director
Nick Smith Associates Limited
Technical Director
Lighting Reality Ltd
EN13201 also known as CEN
• Comes in 5 parts being revised
• PD CEN/TR 13201-1:2014
– Road lighting - Selection of lighting classes
• prEN13201-2 : 2015 (being finalised)
– Road Lighting - Performance Requirements
• prEN13201-3 : 2015 (being finalised)
– Road Lighting - Calculation of performance
• prEN13201-4 : 2015 (being finalised)
– Road Lighting -Methods of Measuring Lighting Performance
• prEN13201-5 : 2015 (New)
– Energy efficiency indicators
#
How does one find the best lantern
• In days gone by
– Price
– Spacing
– Wattage
– Ease of installation
• Now
– Wattage
– Price
– Spacing
prEN13201-5 :2015
Power performance indicators
#
prEN 13201-5:2015 originally
2 metrics; 1 for Engineers; 1 for politicians!
• Power Density Calculation
– Watts / lux / m2
• AECI – Energy Consumption Indicator
– kWh/m2
However
#
prEN 13201-5:2015
• Are politicians really interested in street lighting
• Power Density Calculation
– Watts / lux / m2
– Power density indicator for an area divided into sub-areas for
a given state of operation shall be calculated
– Consider variable spacing and levels
– Why do we need it?
Based on the 2015 early draft please consult the final publication. #
Variable profile
Make the calculation
more complex
#
• AECI – Energy Consumption Indicator
– kWh/m2
• The annual electricity consumption of a road lighting installation
depends on
– the period of time for which lighting is provided,
– the lighting class specified by the relevant lighting standard for each lighting
period,
– the efficiency of the lighting installation, when providing the necessary
lighting for each period,
– the way the lighting management system follows the change in visual needs
of road users,
– the parasitic energy consumption of lighting devices during the period when
the lighting is not needed.
• Are politicians really interested in street lighting
prEN 13201-5:2015
Based on the 2015 early draft please consult the final publication. #
Power Density An Example,
The Brief
• 10m columns.
• Single sided arrangement.
• The client also wanted to use LED.
• Two electrical circuits
– So columns are on alternate circuits.
#
Options
• Three question
• Does the road need to be lit at all?
– The decision to light or not light is based on usage
– Where are the risk assessments?
– Advise the client of their duties under CDM
• M class
• P class
#
Table A.3 BS5489:2013
Table A.3
Lighting classes for moderate speed traffic routes (v ≤ 40 mph)
Traffic volume
Lighting class
Dual carriageway
Single carriageway
Junction density:
high
Junction density:
low
High to very high ME3 or M3 ME4a or M4 ME3b or M3
Low to moderate ME4a or M4 ME5 or M5 ME4a or M4
Very low ME5 or M5 ME6 or M6 ME5 or M5
#
Options 1 (Spacing)
Wattage Source Spacing
(w) Name m
157 140w CPO-TW 46
167 150w SONTPP 48
132 100w SONTPP 36
172 150w CDO-TT 38
176 131w SOXE 42
266 250w CDO-TT 41
190 135w SOX 36
295 250w SONTPP 48
#
Options 2 (poles per Km)
Wattage Source Spacing Poles
(w) Name m per Km
157 140w CPO-TW 46 22
167 150w SONTPP 48 21
132 100w SONTPP 36 28
172 150w CDO-TT 38 27
176 131w SOXE 42 24
266 250w CDO-TT 41 25
190 135w SOX 36 28
295 250w SONTPP 48 21
#
Power density calculation
Based on the 2015 early draft please consult the final publication. #
Options (Power density)
Wattage Source Spacing Poles DP %
(w) Name m per Km
157 140w CPO-TW 46 22 10.829 98%
167 150w SONTPP 48 21 11.078 100%
132 100w SONTPP 36 28 13.394 121%
172 150w CDO-TT 38 27 17.350 157%
176 131w SOXE 42 24 17.859 161%
266 250w CDO-TT 41 25 18.348 166%
190 135w SOX 36 28 19.280 174%
295 250w SONTPP 48 21 33.287 300%
#
Options
Wattage (w) Source
Base line 150w SONTPP
159 LED 1
141 LED 2
140 LED 3
169 LED 4
237 LED 5
145 LED 6
150 LED 7
108 LED 8
134 LED 9
144 LED 10
142 LED 11
174 LED 12
135 LED 13
150 LED 14
151 LED 15
151 LED 16
131 LED 17
122 LED 18
139 LED 19 #
Options
Wattage (w) Source Spacing (m)
Base line 150w SONTPP 48
122 LED 18 50
139 LED 19 50
140 LED 3 48
141 LED 2 48
142 LED 11 49
150 LED 14 49
151 LED 16 49
151 LED 15 48
159 LED 1 48
169 LED 4 49
135 LED 13 46
144 LED 10 47
150 LED 7 46
237 LED 5 44
131 LED 17 42
174 LED 12 43
108 LED 8 41
134 LED 9 35
145 LED 6 35 #
Options
Wattage (w) Source Spacing (m) Poles per Km
Base line 150w SONTPP 48 21
122 LED 18 50 21
139 LED 19 50 21
140 LED 3 48 21
141 LED 2 48 21
142 LED 11 49 21
150 LED 14 49 21
151 LED 16 49 21
151 LED 15 48 21
159 LED 1 48 21
169 LED 4 49 21
135 LED 13 46 22
144 LED 10 47 22
150 LED 7 46 22
237 LED 5 44 23
131 LED 17 42 24
174 LED 12 43 24
108 LED 8 41 25
134 LED 9 35 29
145 LED 6 35 29
#
Power density calculation
#
Options
Wattage (w) Source Spacing (m) Poles per Km DP
Base line 150w SONTPP 48 21 10.551
108 LED 8 41 25 9.746
131 LED 17 42 24 13.352
122 LED 18 50 21 13.499
135 LED 13 46 22 13.842
142 LED 11 49 21 13.904
145 LED 6 35 29 14.456
134 LED 9 35 29 14.580
139 LED 19 50 21 14.783
144 LED 10 47 22 15.151
140 LED 3 48 21 15.694
141 LED 2 48 21 15.806
150 LED 7 46 22 16.041
237 LED 5 44 23 16.314
151 LED 16 49 21 16.844
151 LED 15 48 21 16.969
150 LED 14 49 21 17.066
159 LED 1 48 21 17.824
174 LED 12 43 24 18.140
169 LED 4 49 21 18.976
#
Options
Wattage (w) Source Spacing (m) Poles per Km DP %
Base line 150w SONTPP 48 21 10.551
108 LED 8 41 25 9.746 88%
131 LED 17 42 24 13.352 121%
122 LED 18 50 21 13.499 122%
135 LED 13 46 22 13.842 125%
142 LED 11 49 21 13.904 126%
145 LED 6 35 29 14.456 130%
134 LED 9 35 29 14.580 132%
139 LED 19 50 21 14.783 133%
144 LED 10 47 22 15.151 137%
140 LED 3 48 21 15.694 142%
141 LED 2 48 21 15.806 143%
150 LED 7 46 22 16.041 145%
237 LED 5 44 23 16.314 147%
151 LED 16 49 21 16.844 152%
151 LED 15 48 21 16.969 153%
150 LED 14 49 21 17.066 154%
159 LED 1 48 21 17.824 161%
174 LED 12 43 24 18.140 164%
169 LED 4 49 21 18.976 171%
#
Options
Wattage (w) Source Spacing (m) Poles per Km PDC %
Base line 150w SONTPP 48 21 10.551
108 LED 8 41 25 9.746 88%
131 LED 17 42 24 13.352 121%
122 LED 18 50 21 13.499 122%
135 LED 13 46 22 13.842 125%
142 LED 11 49 21 13.904 126%
145 LED 6 35 29 14.456 130%
134 LED 9 35 29 14.580 132%
139 LED 19 50 21 14.783 133%
144 LED 10 47 22 15.151 137%
140 LED 3 48 21 15.694 142%
141 LED 2 48 21 15.806 143%
150 LED 7 46 22 16.041 145%
237 LED 5 44 23 16.314 147%
151 LED 16 49 21 16.844 152%
151 LED 15 48 21 16.969 153%
150 LED 14 49 21 17.066 154%
159 LED 1 48 21 17.824 161%
174 LED 12 43 24 18.140 164%
169 LED 4 49 21 18.976 171%
80 LED@500ma 64 LED@700ma
#
Options
Lantern Spacing
Ref Max Min
MI26 HF 23 23
MI26 Low Loss 39 27
MI26 Wire wound 39 27
#
Power density calculation
Power Density
Annual Energy
Consumption Indicator
Based on the 2015 early draft please consult the final publication. #
Options
Lantern Spacing E ave Power AECI Wattage
Ref Max Min Lux Density
MI26 HF 23 23 3.07 ≈ 44.75 929 39
MI26 Low Loss 39 27 3.07 ≈ 52.97 1100 58
MI26 Wire wound 39 27 3.07 ≈ 59.37 1233 65
#
Options
Lantern Spacing E ave Power AECI Wattage
Ref Max Min Lux Density
MI26 HF 23 23 3.07 ≈ 44.75 929 39
MI26 Low Loss 39 27 3.07 ≈ 52.97 1100 58
MI26 Wire wound 39 27 3.07 ≈ 59.37 1233 65
24 NR 30 21
24 AY 28 19
34 NR 37 26
34 AY 35 24
44 NR 49 35
44 AY 42 33
54 NR 48 46
54 AY 44 41
#
Options
Lantern Spacing E ave Power AECI Wattage
Ref Max Min Lux Density
MI26 HF 23 23 3.07 ≈ 44.75 929 39
MI26 Low Loss 39 27 3.07 ≈ 52.97 1100 58
MI26 Wire wound 39 27 3.07 ≈ 59.37 1233 65
24 NR 30 21 3.77
24 AY 28 19 3.77
34 NR 37 26 3.82
34 AY 35 24 3.78
44 NR 49 35 3.93
44 AY 42 33 4.29
54 NR 48 46 5.34
54 AY 44 41 5.22
#
Options
Lantern Spacing E ave Power AECI Wattage
Ref Max Min Lux Density
MI26 HF 23 23 3.07 ≈ 44.75 929 39
MI26 Low Loss 39 27 3.07 ≈ 52.97 1100 58
MI26 Wire wound 39 27 3.07 ≈ 59.37 1233 65
24 NR 30 21 3.77 16.95
24 AY 28 19 3.77 18.12
34 NR 37 26 3.82 18.97
34 AY 35 24 3.78 20.24
44 NR 49 35 3.93 20.63
44 AY 42 33 4.29 22
54 NR 48 46 5.34 20.63
54 AY 44 41 5.22 23
#
Options
Lantern Spacing E ave Power AECI Wattage
Ref Max Min Lux Density
MI26 HF 23 23 3.07 ≈ 44.75 929 39
MI26 Low Loss 39 27 3.07 ≈ 52.97 1100 58
MI26 Wire wound 39 27 3.07 ≈ 59.37 1233 65
24 NR 30 21 3.77 16.95 262
24 AY 28 19 3.77 18.12 280
34 NR 37 26 3.82 18.97 297
34 AY 35 24 3.78 20.24 314
44 NR 49 35 3.93 20.63 332
44 AY 42 33 4.29 22 387
54 NR 48 46 5.34 20.63 452
54 AY 44 41 5.22 23 493
#
Options
Lantern Spacing E ave Power AECI Wattage
Ref Max Min Lux Density
MI26 HF 23 23 3.07 ≈ 44.75 929 39
MI26 Low Loss 39 27 3.07 ≈ 52.97 1100 58
MI26 Wire wound 39 27 3.07 ≈ 59.37 1233 65
24 NR 30 21 3.77 16.95 262 18
24 AY 28 19 3.77 18.12 280 18
34 NR 37 26 3.82 18.97 297 25.2
34 AY 35 24 3.78 20.24 314 25.2
44 NR 49 35 3.93 20.63 332 37.3
44 AY 42 33 4.29 22 387 37.3
54 NR 48 46 5.34 20.63 452 49.7
54 AY 44 41 5.22 23 493 49.7
4 (L24w) 32 29 3.97 15.21 234 22
5 (L24w) 43 30 3.05 19.44 243 22
6 (L24w) 39 27 3.03 21.57 268 22
#
• All the calculations are dependent of having the
right data in the photometric file.
• The future is bright
– (depending what Class you choose)
• but a not really
• THANK YOU
Finally
#
Steadfast and loyal

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PLS 2015: Roadway lighting and the application of EN13201 Part 5

  • 1. “EN13201-5 Energy performance indicators an overview to their application” Presented by Nick Smith IEng MILP MIES Director Nick Smith Associates Limited Technical Director Lighting Reality Ltd
  • 2. EN13201 also known as CEN • Comes in 5 parts being revised • PD CEN/TR 13201-1:2014 – Road lighting - Selection of lighting classes • prEN13201-2 : 2015 (being finalised) – Road Lighting - Performance Requirements • prEN13201-3 : 2015 (being finalised) – Road Lighting - Calculation of performance • prEN13201-4 : 2015 (being finalised) – Road Lighting -Methods of Measuring Lighting Performance • prEN13201-5 : 2015 (New) – Energy efficiency indicators #
  • 3. How does one find the best lantern • In days gone by – Price – Spacing – Wattage – Ease of installation • Now – Wattage – Price – Spacing prEN13201-5 :2015 Power performance indicators #
  • 4. prEN 13201-5:2015 originally 2 metrics; 1 for Engineers; 1 for politicians! • Power Density Calculation – Watts / lux / m2 • AECI – Energy Consumption Indicator – kWh/m2 However #
  • 5. prEN 13201-5:2015 • Are politicians really interested in street lighting • Power Density Calculation – Watts / lux / m2 – Power density indicator for an area divided into sub-areas for a given state of operation shall be calculated – Consider variable spacing and levels – Why do we need it? Based on the 2015 early draft please consult the final publication. #
  • 6. Variable profile Make the calculation more complex #
  • 7. • AECI – Energy Consumption Indicator – kWh/m2 • The annual electricity consumption of a road lighting installation depends on – the period of time for which lighting is provided, – the lighting class specified by the relevant lighting standard for each lighting period, – the efficiency of the lighting installation, when providing the necessary lighting for each period, – the way the lighting management system follows the change in visual needs of road users, – the parasitic energy consumption of lighting devices during the period when the lighting is not needed. • Are politicians really interested in street lighting prEN 13201-5:2015 Based on the 2015 early draft please consult the final publication. #
  • 8. Power Density An Example, The Brief • 10m columns. • Single sided arrangement. • The client also wanted to use LED. • Two electrical circuits – So columns are on alternate circuits. #
  • 9. Options • Three question • Does the road need to be lit at all? – The decision to light or not light is based on usage – Where are the risk assessments? – Advise the client of their duties under CDM • M class • P class #
  • 10. Table A.3 BS5489:2013 Table A.3 Lighting classes for moderate speed traffic routes (v ≤ 40 mph) Traffic volume Lighting class Dual carriageway Single carriageway Junction density: high Junction density: low High to very high ME3 or M3 ME4a or M4 ME3b or M3 Low to moderate ME4a or M4 ME5 or M5 ME4a or M4 Very low ME5 or M5 ME6 or M6 ME5 or M5 #
  • 11. Options 1 (Spacing) Wattage Source Spacing (w) Name m 157 140w CPO-TW 46 167 150w SONTPP 48 132 100w SONTPP 36 172 150w CDO-TT 38 176 131w SOXE 42 266 250w CDO-TT 41 190 135w SOX 36 295 250w SONTPP 48 #
  • 12. Options 2 (poles per Km) Wattage Source Spacing Poles (w) Name m per Km 157 140w CPO-TW 46 22 167 150w SONTPP 48 21 132 100w SONTPP 36 28 172 150w CDO-TT 38 27 176 131w SOXE 42 24 266 250w CDO-TT 41 25 190 135w SOX 36 28 295 250w SONTPP 48 21 #
  • 13. Power density calculation Based on the 2015 early draft please consult the final publication. #
  • 14. Options (Power density) Wattage Source Spacing Poles DP % (w) Name m per Km 157 140w CPO-TW 46 22 10.829 98% 167 150w SONTPP 48 21 11.078 100% 132 100w SONTPP 36 28 13.394 121% 172 150w CDO-TT 38 27 17.350 157% 176 131w SOXE 42 24 17.859 161% 266 250w CDO-TT 41 25 18.348 166% 190 135w SOX 36 28 19.280 174% 295 250w SONTPP 48 21 33.287 300% #
  • 15. Options Wattage (w) Source Base line 150w SONTPP 159 LED 1 141 LED 2 140 LED 3 169 LED 4 237 LED 5 145 LED 6 150 LED 7 108 LED 8 134 LED 9 144 LED 10 142 LED 11 174 LED 12 135 LED 13 150 LED 14 151 LED 15 151 LED 16 131 LED 17 122 LED 18 139 LED 19 #
  • 16. Options Wattage (w) Source Spacing (m) Base line 150w SONTPP 48 122 LED 18 50 139 LED 19 50 140 LED 3 48 141 LED 2 48 142 LED 11 49 150 LED 14 49 151 LED 16 49 151 LED 15 48 159 LED 1 48 169 LED 4 49 135 LED 13 46 144 LED 10 47 150 LED 7 46 237 LED 5 44 131 LED 17 42 174 LED 12 43 108 LED 8 41 134 LED 9 35 145 LED 6 35 #
  • 17. Options Wattage (w) Source Spacing (m) Poles per Km Base line 150w SONTPP 48 21 122 LED 18 50 21 139 LED 19 50 21 140 LED 3 48 21 141 LED 2 48 21 142 LED 11 49 21 150 LED 14 49 21 151 LED 16 49 21 151 LED 15 48 21 159 LED 1 48 21 169 LED 4 49 21 135 LED 13 46 22 144 LED 10 47 22 150 LED 7 46 22 237 LED 5 44 23 131 LED 17 42 24 174 LED 12 43 24 108 LED 8 41 25 134 LED 9 35 29 145 LED 6 35 29 #
  • 19. Options Wattage (w) Source Spacing (m) Poles per Km DP Base line 150w SONTPP 48 21 10.551 108 LED 8 41 25 9.746 131 LED 17 42 24 13.352 122 LED 18 50 21 13.499 135 LED 13 46 22 13.842 142 LED 11 49 21 13.904 145 LED 6 35 29 14.456 134 LED 9 35 29 14.580 139 LED 19 50 21 14.783 144 LED 10 47 22 15.151 140 LED 3 48 21 15.694 141 LED 2 48 21 15.806 150 LED 7 46 22 16.041 237 LED 5 44 23 16.314 151 LED 16 49 21 16.844 151 LED 15 48 21 16.969 150 LED 14 49 21 17.066 159 LED 1 48 21 17.824 174 LED 12 43 24 18.140 169 LED 4 49 21 18.976 #
  • 20. Options Wattage (w) Source Spacing (m) Poles per Km DP % Base line 150w SONTPP 48 21 10.551 108 LED 8 41 25 9.746 88% 131 LED 17 42 24 13.352 121% 122 LED 18 50 21 13.499 122% 135 LED 13 46 22 13.842 125% 142 LED 11 49 21 13.904 126% 145 LED 6 35 29 14.456 130% 134 LED 9 35 29 14.580 132% 139 LED 19 50 21 14.783 133% 144 LED 10 47 22 15.151 137% 140 LED 3 48 21 15.694 142% 141 LED 2 48 21 15.806 143% 150 LED 7 46 22 16.041 145% 237 LED 5 44 23 16.314 147% 151 LED 16 49 21 16.844 152% 151 LED 15 48 21 16.969 153% 150 LED 14 49 21 17.066 154% 159 LED 1 48 21 17.824 161% 174 LED 12 43 24 18.140 164% 169 LED 4 49 21 18.976 171% #
  • 21. Options Wattage (w) Source Spacing (m) Poles per Km PDC % Base line 150w SONTPP 48 21 10.551 108 LED 8 41 25 9.746 88% 131 LED 17 42 24 13.352 121% 122 LED 18 50 21 13.499 122% 135 LED 13 46 22 13.842 125% 142 LED 11 49 21 13.904 126% 145 LED 6 35 29 14.456 130% 134 LED 9 35 29 14.580 132% 139 LED 19 50 21 14.783 133% 144 LED 10 47 22 15.151 137% 140 LED 3 48 21 15.694 142% 141 LED 2 48 21 15.806 143% 150 LED 7 46 22 16.041 145% 237 LED 5 44 23 16.314 147% 151 LED 16 49 21 16.844 152% 151 LED 15 48 21 16.969 153% 150 LED 14 49 21 17.066 154% 159 LED 1 48 21 17.824 161% 174 LED 12 43 24 18.140 164% 169 LED 4 49 21 18.976 171% 80 LED@500ma 64 LED@700ma #
  • 22. Options Lantern Spacing Ref Max Min MI26 HF 23 23 MI26 Low Loss 39 27 MI26 Wire wound 39 27 #
  • 23. Power density calculation Power Density Annual Energy Consumption Indicator Based on the 2015 early draft please consult the final publication. #
  • 24. Options Lantern Spacing E ave Power AECI Wattage Ref Max Min Lux Density MI26 HF 23 23 3.07 ≈ 44.75 929 39 MI26 Low Loss 39 27 3.07 ≈ 52.97 1100 58 MI26 Wire wound 39 27 3.07 ≈ 59.37 1233 65 #
  • 25. Options Lantern Spacing E ave Power AECI Wattage Ref Max Min Lux Density MI26 HF 23 23 3.07 ≈ 44.75 929 39 MI26 Low Loss 39 27 3.07 ≈ 52.97 1100 58 MI26 Wire wound 39 27 3.07 ≈ 59.37 1233 65 24 NR 30 21 24 AY 28 19 34 NR 37 26 34 AY 35 24 44 NR 49 35 44 AY 42 33 54 NR 48 46 54 AY 44 41 #
  • 26. Options Lantern Spacing E ave Power AECI Wattage Ref Max Min Lux Density MI26 HF 23 23 3.07 ≈ 44.75 929 39 MI26 Low Loss 39 27 3.07 ≈ 52.97 1100 58 MI26 Wire wound 39 27 3.07 ≈ 59.37 1233 65 24 NR 30 21 3.77 24 AY 28 19 3.77 34 NR 37 26 3.82 34 AY 35 24 3.78 44 NR 49 35 3.93 44 AY 42 33 4.29 54 NR 48 46 5.34 54 AY 44 41 5.22 #
  • 27. Options Lantern Spacing E ave Power AECI Wattage Ref Max Min Lux Density MI26 HF 23 23 3.07 ≈ 44.75 929 39 MI26 Low Loss 39 27 3.07 ≈ 52.97 1100 58 MI26 Wire wound 39 27 3.07 ≈ 59.37 1233 65 24 NR 30 21 3.77 16.95 24 AY 28 19 3.77 18.12 34 NR 37 26 3.82 18.97 34 AY 35 24 3.78 20.24 44 NR 49 35 3.93 20.63 44 AY 42 33 4.29 22 54 NR 48 46 5.34 20.63 54 AY 44 41 5.22 23 #
  • 28. Options Lantern Spacing E ave Power AECI Wattage Ref Max Min Lux Density MI26 HF 23 23 3.07 ≈ 44.75 929 39 MI26 Low Loss 39 27 3.07 ≈ 52.97 1100 58 MI26 Wire wound 39 27 3.07 ≈ 59.37 1233 65 24 NR 30 21 3.77 16.95 262 24 AY 28 19 3.77 18.12 280 34 NR 37 26 3.82 18.97 297 34 AY 35 24 3.78 20.24 314 44 NR 49 35 3.93 20.63 332 44 AY 42 33 4.29 22 387 54 NR 48 46 5.34 20.63 452 54 AY 44 41 5.22 23 493 #
  • 29. Options Lantern Spacing E ave Power AECI Wattage Ref Max Min Lux Density MI26 HF 23 23 3.07 ≈ 44.75 929 39 MI26 Low Loss 39 27 3.07 ≈ 52.97 1100 58 MI26 Wire wound 39 27 3.07 ≈ 59.37 1233 65 24 NR 30 21 3.77 16.95 262 18 24 AY 28 19 3.77 18.12 280 18 34 NR 37 26 3.82 18.97 297 25.2 34 AY 35 24 3.78 20.24 314 25.2 44 NR 49 35 3.93 20.63 332 37.3 44 AY 42 33 4.29 22 387 37.3 54 NR 48 46 5.34 20.63 452 49.7 54 AY 44 41 5.22 23 493 49.7 4 (L24w) 32 29 3.97 15.21 234 22 5 (L24w) 43 30 3.05 19.44 243 22 6 (L24w) 39 27 3.03 21.57 268 22 #
  • 30. • All the calculations are dependent of having the right data in the photometric file. • The future is bright – (depending what Class you choose) • but a not really • THANK YOU Finally # Steadfast and loyal