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KEVIN W. HARDIN CMB, CMC, CMPS
                                                                                                               KHardin@ThomsonLawPLC.com


                                       UPDATED February 21st 2011
         What is the difference between a Realtor doing Short Sales or a Short Sale Negotiator?

         On February 1st 2011 Arizona Department of Real Estate released its Broker/Manager Risk
         Management Update; Special Edition January 2011. In this Update, DRE addressed the topic of
         Short Sale Negotiator Regulations. On February 15th 2011 Commissioner Judy Lowe updated
         that letter. Here is the link to that Update:
         http://www.azre.gov/PublicInfo/Documents/Short_Sale_Negotiator_Regulations.pdf

         The first issue in the Update was:

                  What licenses are required to negotiate a short sale?

                  A real estate license and/or or a loan originator license may be required for
                  individuals who assist homeowners in negotiating with lenders to accept less than
                  the full amount of the mortgage loan, as part of a short sale transaction.1 The
                  particular license that is needed depends on the nature of the transaction, what
                  licenses the person or entity holds already, the scope of services offered and
                  whether or not a fee is charged for the service, as explained more below.

         Essentially the commissioner is putting on notice all parties that exemption from licensing is not
         universal and exemption from licensing is based upon very specific circumstances and services
         offered.

         The commissioner moved directly into the question of the scope of licensure for a licensed Real
         Estate Agent.

                  Is a real estate broker/salesperson acting outside the scope of their real estate
                  license by assisting a seller in negotiations with the lender to facilitate a short
                  sale?

                  No. The scope of a real estate license encompasses assisting in the “negotiation
                  of any transaction calculated or intended to result in the sale . . . of real estate.”
                  A.R.S. § 32-2101(48)(j).

         Now, at first read this would seem to address everyone’s question as to whether Real Estate
         Agents can negotiate a Short Sale. The problem is, however, what is the definition of
         “assisting”? Does that mean that you can advise and guide the homeowner in speaking with their
         lender? It seems safe to say that “assist” might mean that. But what if you are collecting all
         documents from the homeowner to submit to their lenders? What if you are directly negotiating
         with the homeowner’s lenders to securing a release of the liens and perhaps a release of the

         1
           Arizona law defines “short sales” as “real estate transactions in which the sales price is insufficient to pay the
         loan encumbering the property in addition to the costs of sale and the seller is unable to pay the difference.”
         A.R.S. § 32-2130 (A).


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         remaining deficiency balance on the loans? When does working with a homeowner leave
         “assisting” and move to “negotiation”? And, at what point does assistance become legal
         representation?


         The next issue addressed was compensation:

                  May a real estate broker/salesperson receive additional compensation for
                  negotiating a short sale in addition to receiving a commission on the sale?

                  Yes, if the real estate licensee is also licensed by the Arizona Department of
                  Financial Institutions (“DFI”) under Title 6, Chapter 9 (covering loan
                  originators2, mortgage brokers and mortgage bankers) and other requirements
                  are met. 3 The general rule is that additional compensation requires an
                  additional license. If a real estate broker/salesperson assists the seller in
                  negotiating with the lender or servicer to accept the short sale price as a
                  customer service and does not charge or expect additional compensation
                  (including an increased commission), the real estate broker/salesperson does not
                  need a separate license from DFI

         Now, this seems pretty clear on it’s face. But, exactly what does “additional compensation”
         mean. If you are an individual real estate agent and secure a listing for the sale of residential
         home and with no expectation of further compensation for “assisting” the homeowner in that
         short sale, it would seem that a real estate agent would need no further licensure. But, what if
         you are not the listing agent? What if you are a licensed real estate agent who is engaged by the
         actual listing agent to negotiate on behalf of the homeowner? The only service you are providing
         is the actual negotiation of the short sale with the expectation of compensation by way of real
         estate commission for that service. While it is normal and customary for a co-listing agent of a
         property to receive some form of referral commission, would the sharing of the commission for
         the “negotiation” of the short sale be considered as “(an increased commission)”? Since the
         Third Party Negotiator is performing none of the responsibilities ordinarily relating to the listing
         and sale of the property, the third party negotiator falls outside of that exemption.




         2
           “Loan originator" is defined as “a natural person who for compensation or gain or in the expectation of
         compensation or gain… (i) Takes a residential mortgage loan application; (ii) Offers or negotiates terms of a
         residential mortgage loan; and (iii) On behalf of a borrower, negotiates with a lender or note holder to obtain a
         temporary or permanent modification in an existing residential mortgage loan agreement. A.R.S. § 6–991(12).
         Also, a loan originator must be employed by a mortgage broker. A.R.S. § 6-991.02(13) and § 6-991-04.
         3
           A real estate broker/salesperson cannot collect compensation for negotiating loans unless: (1) they are licensed
         pursuant to Title 6, Chapter 9 (A.R.S. § 6-901, et. seq); 2) they have disclosed to the person from whom the
         compensation is collected that they are receiving compensation for both real estate and mortgage services; and 3) the
         compensation does not violate any other state or federal law. A.R.S. § 32-2155(C).


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                Should a broker/salesperson negotiating a short sale with a lender or servicer
                on behalf of the seller comply with the Federal Trade Commission’s Mortgage
                Assistance Relief Services (“MARS”) Rule?

                Yes. The MARS Rule applies to any person that provides, offers to provide, or
                arranges for others to provide any “mortgage assistance relief service.” Title 16,
                Code of Federal Regulations (CFR), Part 322. A “mortgage assistance relief
                service” includes any service, plan, or program, offered or provided to the
                consumer in exchange for consideration to assist or attempt to assist the
                consumer with negotiating, obtaining or arranging a short sale. 16 CFR
                322.2(i).To review the MARS Rule in its entirety, including disclosure and other
                requirements, go to www.ftc.gov/opa/2010/11/mars.shtm.

         This seems to be very straight forward and not open to much interpretation. If you are a real
         estate agent and are advertising for Short Sales you are a Mortgage Assistant Relief Service
         Provider and must comply. This does not mean that you cannot do Short Sales. MARS has very
         specific disclosures that are required of a provider before working with the client as well as at
         critical points in the short sale process. In addition, there are prohibitions related to advertising
         and marketing of your services that must be complied with. This firm can assist you in reviewing
         your current business model and assisting you in drafting the legal disclosures necessary.

         Part of MARS describes a prohibition to accepting an upfront fee as part of the short sale
         process. The Commissioner goes on to explain.

               May a listing broker/salesperson charge the seller a non-refundable retainer fee
               in a short sale transaction?

               No. Any fee, refundable or non-refundable, that a broker/salesperson requests or
               receives from a consumer to negotiate, obtain or arrange a short sale, in advance
               of an executed agreement between the consumer and his or her lender or servicer
               that incorporates the final terms that the lender or servicer will agree to, violates
               the advance fee ban described in section 322.5 of the Federal Trade Commission’s
               MARS Rule.

         Of course the question of what to do with out of state companies always comes up in the
         conversation.

                Must an out-of-state short sale negotiator be licensed in Arizona to negotiate a
                short sale for compensation on behalf of an Arizona seller?

                Yes, they should generally follow the same licensing regulations as Arizona–
                based short sale negotiators.

         Now, there have been numerous stories of other entities including Law Firms that have
         employed licensed real estate agents in an effort to circumvent licensing under an


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         exemption that goes to the Attorney and still share in the real estate commission. The
         next statement by the Commissioner seems to clarify that attempt as a failure and is in
         violation of this rule unless the Attorney is also a licensed real estate broker.

                If a salesperson receives any fee in connection with a short sale, regardless
                of how the fee is described on the HUD-1 must the fee be paid through the
                employing broker?

                Yes. A.R.S. §32-2155(A) requires that a salesperson “accept employment and
                compensation as a licensee only from the legally licensed broker to whom the
                licensee is licensed.” Compensation is defined as “any fee, commission, salary,
                money or other valuable consideration for services rendered or to be rendered as
                well as the promise of consideration whether contingent or not.” A.R.S. §32-
                2101(16). Thus, a salesperson may not receive compensation as a licensee from
                any person or through any entity, including a licensee’s LLC, other than the
                employing broker to which the salesperson is licensed.

         After reading the following statement, a real estate agent might determine that licensure is
         required and apply for licensure under Title 6 Chapter 9 as a loan originator. For a real estate
         agent to be a properly licensed loan originator it would then require that a real estate agent
         become an employee of a mortgage broker or banker? The next question and answer by DRE
         becomes increasingly problematic.

                Are there any additional licensing restrictions that apply to FHA loans
                regulated by the U.S. Department of Housing (HUD)?

                Yes. Loan originators must be employed by a licensed mortgage broker who is
                responsible for the supervision of the loan originator. Under HUD rules, a
                mortgage broker who handles FHA loans is prohibited from employing staff who
                are also employed in the real estate field. For further information about HUD's
                requirements, visit www.hud.gov.

         So, under the HUD rules, a HUD approved mortgagee is prohibited from employing staff who
         are also employed in the real estate field. This leaves only those mortgage brokers / bankers in
         AZ who do not offer FHA loans. In today’s real estate market and in view of current lending
         constraints, this leaves very few options.

                                               Conclusion

         The DRE Update has provided clarity to many of the issues and questions facing Real Estate
         Agents in the area of Short Sales. What is now clear is that those agents who are engaged by
         another real estate agent, broker or even a homeowner to negotiate short sale and who receive
         compensation are in violation of ARS Section 32-2155 (C ) and are required to obtain a license




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         from DFI. 4 It is now equally clear that those third party negotiators that operate under the
         umbrella of an LLC or a brokerage also are in violation of ARS Section 32-2101(16). Finally, it
         is now clear that those Real Estate Agents that list and market a property and who only “assists”
         the seller as an accommodation with the negotiation with the lenders for no additional
         compensation is acting lawfully.

         What remains unclear is the definition of “assist” in the context of negotiating a short sale. Based
         upon the positions taken by DRE, DFI and the AG’s office, it seems reasonably clear that
         “assisting” a homeowner with the negotiation of a short sale would not include the direct and
         exclusive handling of the direct negotiations with the lenders. Certainly, as it pertains to the
         specific negotiations with a lender to obtain the release or extinguishment of deficiency balances,
         such negotiations would go well beyond mere “assistance” of a homeowner and would consist of
         representing a borrower on a disputed debt obligation.

         While some bright lines in the area of authority for Real Estate Agents in Short Sale transaction
         have now been established, there remain several areas of uncertainty that remain to be decided.
         What can be said is that Real Estate Agents should act prudently in determining the limits of
         their roles for a homeowner and eliminate potential violations of the statutory and regulatory
         requirements by avoiding the seeking of legal guidance.

         Kevin W. Hardin CMB, CMC, CMPS
         Neil W. Thomson, Esq.
         Thomson Law, PLC
         www.ThomsonLawPLC.com
         www.MortgageMediationGroup.com
         2701 E. Camelback Rd. Suite 150

         Phoenix, AZ 85016
         602-774-3757

         If you have any questions please call our firm at the number above. The Mortgage Mediation
         Group is a practice group of the Law Firm of Thomson Law, PLC. This group is focused on
         assisting homeowners facing a point today or in the future when they can no longer afford their
         mortgage or it no longer is feasible to pay AND owe more than their home is worth. Solutions
         can range from Mortgage Liability Review, Short Sale Review and Negotiation, Loan
         Modification, Lien Settlement, Foreclosure Defense, Deficiency Defense, Deed in Lieu and
         Bankruptcy (Chapter 7, 13, Lien Strip and Mortgage Cramdown).




         4
          Information on obtaining a loan originator and other licenses is available on the DFI website at
         www.dfi.gov


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Short sale negotiation licensing review

  • 1. KEVIN W. HARDIN CMB, CMC, CMPS KHardin@ThomsonLawPLC.com UPDATED February 21st 2011 What is the difference between a Realtor doing Short Sales or a Short Sale Negotiator? On February 1st 2011 Arizona Department of Real Estate released its Broker/Manager Risk Management Update; Special Edition January 2011. In this Update, DRE addressed the topic of Short Sale Negotiator Regulations. On February 15th 2011 Commissioner Judy Lowe updated that letter. Here is the link to that Update: http://www.azre.gov/PublicInfo/Documents/Short_Sale_Negotiator_Regulations.pdf The first issue in the Update was: What licenses are required to negotiate a short sale? A real estate license and/or or a loan originator license may be required for individuals who assist homeowners in negotiating with lenders to accept less than the full amount of the mortgage loan, as part of a short sale transaction.1 The particular license that is needed depends on the nature of the transaction, what licenses the person or entity holds already, the scope of services offered and whether or not a fee is charged for the service, as explained more below. Essentially the commissioner is putting on notice all parties that exemption from licensing is not universal and exemption from licensing is based upon very specific circumstances and services offered. The commissioner moved directly into the question of the scope of licensure for a licensed Real Estate Agent. Is a real estate broker/salesperson acting outside the scope of their real estate license by assisting a seller in negotiations with the lender to facilitate a short sale? No. The scope of a real estate license encompasses assisting in the “negotiation of any transaction calculated or intended to result in the sale . . . of real estate.” A.R.S. § 32-2101(48)(j). Now, at first read this would seem to address everyone’s question as to whether Real Estate Agents can negotiate a Short Sale. The problem is, however, what is the definition of “assisting”? Does that mean that you can advise and guide the homeowner in speaking with their lender? It seems safe to say that “assist” might mean that. But what if you are collecting all documents from the homeowner to submit to their lenders? What if you are directly negotiating with the homeowner’s lenders to securing a release of the liens and perhaps a release of the 1 Arizona law defines “short sales” as “real estate transactions in which the sales price is insufficient to pay the loan encumbering the property in addition to the costs of sale and the seller is unable to pay the difference.” A.R.S. § 32-2130 (A). v.2010 602.774.3757 | 602.840.3290 Fax | 2701 East Camelback Road | Suite 150 | Phoenix, Arizona 85016 | www.ThomsonLawPLC.com
  • 2. FOR DISTRIBUTION JANUARY 15, 2011 PAGE 2 OF 5 remaining deficiency balance on the loans? When does working with a homeowner leave “assisting” and move to “negotiation”? And, at what point does assistance become legal representation? The next issue addressed was compensation: May a real estate broker/salesperson receive additional compensation for negotiating a short sale in addition to receiving a commission on the sale? Yes, if the real estate licensee is also licensed by the Arizona Department of Financial Institutions (“DFI”) under Title 6, Chapter 9 (covering loan originators2, mortgage brokers and mortgage bankers) and other requirements are met. 3 The general rule is that additional compensation requires an additional license. If a real estate broker/salesperson assists the seller in negotiating with the lender or servicer to accept the short sale price as a customer service and does not charge or expect additional compensation (including an increased commission), the real estate broker/salesperson does not need a separate license from DFI Now, this seems pretty clear on it’s face. But, exactly what does “additional compensation” mean. If you are an individual real estate agent and secure a listing for the sale of residential home and with no expectation of further compensation for “assisting” the homeowner in that short sale, it would seem that a real estate agent would need no further licensure. But, what if you are not the listing agent? What if you are a licensed real estate agent who is engaged by the actual listing agent to negotiate on behalf of the homeowner? The only service you are providing is the actual negotiation of the short sale with the expectation of compensation by way of real estate commission for that service. While it is normal and customary for a co-listing agent of a property to receive some form of referral commission, would the sharing of the commission for the “negotiation” of the short sale be considered as “(an increased commission)”? Since the Third Party Negotiator is performing none of the responsibilities ordinarily relating to the listing and sale of the property, the third party negotiator falls outside of that exemption. 2 “Loan originator" is defined as “a natural person who for compensation or gain or in the expectation of compensation or gain… (i) Takes a residential mortgage loan application; (ii) Offers or negotiates terms of a residential mortgage loan; and (iii) On behalf of a borrower, negotiates with a lender or note holder to obtain a temporary or permanent modification in an existing residential mortgage loan agreement. A.R.S. § 6–991(12). Also, a loan originator must be employed by a mortgage broker. A.R.S. § 6-991.02(13) and § 6-991-04. 3 A real estate broker/salesperson cannot collect compensation for negotiating loans unless: (1) they are licensed pursuant to Title 6, Chapter 9 (A.R.S. § 6-901, et. seq); 2) they have disclosed to the person from whom the compensation is collected that they are receiving compensation for both real estate and mortgage services; and 3) the compensation does not violate any other state or federal law. A.R.S. § 32-2155(C). v.2010 602.774.3757 | 602.840.3290 Fax | 2701 East Camelback Road | Suite 150 | Phoenix, Arizona 85016 | www.ThomsonLawPLC.com
  • 3. FOR DISTRIBUTION JANUARY 15, 2011 PAGE 3 OF 5 Should a broker/salesperson negotiating a short sale with a lender or servicer on behalf of the seller comply with the Federal Trade Commission’s Mortgage Assistance Relief Services (“MARS”) Rule? Yes. The MARS Rule applies to any person that provides, offers to provide, or arranges for others to provide any “mortgage assistance relief service.” Title 16, Code of Federal Regulations (CFR), Part 322. A “mortgage assistance relief service” includes any service, plan, or program, offered or provided to the consumer in exchange for consideration to assist or attempt to assist the consumer with negotiating, obtaining or arranging a short sale. 16 CFR 322.2(i).To review the MARS Rule in its entirety, including disclosure and other requirements, go to www.ftc.gov/opa/2010/11/mars.shtm. This seems to be very straight forward and not open to much interpretation. If you are a real estate agent and are advertising for Short Sales you are a Mortgage Assistant Relief Service Provider and must comply. This does not mean that you cannot do Short Sales. MARS has very specific disclosures that are required of a provider before working with the client as well as at critical points in the short sale process. In addition, there are prohibitions related to advertising and marketing of your services that must be complied with. This firm can assist you in reviewing your current business model and assisting you in drafting the legal disclosures necessary. Part of MARS describes a prohibition to accepting an upfront fee as part of the short sale process. The Commissioner goes on to explain. May a listing broker/salesperson charge the seller a non-refundable retainer fee in a short sale transaction? No. Any fee, refundable or non-refundable, that a broker/salesperson requests or receives from a consumer to negotiate, obtain or arrange a short sale, in advance of an executed agreement between the consumer and his or her lender or servicer that incorporates the final terms that the lender or servicer will agree to, violates the advance fee ban described in section 322.5 of the Federal Trade Commission’s MARS Rule. Of course the question of what to do with out of state companies always comes up in the conversation. Must an out-of-state short sale negotiator be licensed in Arizona to negotiate a short sale for compensation on behalf of an Arizona seller? Yes, they should generally follow the same licensing regulations as Arizona– based short sale negotiators. Now, there have been numerous stories of other entities including Law Firms that have employed licensed real estate agents in an effort to circumvent licensing under an v.2010 602.774.3757 | 602.840.3290 Fax | 2701 East Camelback Road | Suite 150 | Phoenix, Arizona 85016 | www.ThomsonLawPLC.com
  • 4. FOR DISTRIBUTION JANUARY 15, 2011 PAGE 4 OF 5 exemption that goes to the Attorney and still share in the real estate commission. The next statement by the Commissioner seems to clarify that attempt as a failure and is in violation of this rule unless the Attorney is also a licensed real estate broker. If a salesperson receives any fee in connection with a short sale, regardless of how the fee is described on the HUD-1 must the fee be paid through the employing broker? Yes. A.R.S. §32-2155(A) requires that a salesperson “accept employment and compensation as a licensee only from the legally licensed broker to whom the licensee is licensed.” Compensation is defined as “any fee, commission, salary, money or other valuable consideration for services rendered or to be rendered as well as the promise of consideration whether contingent or not.” A.R.S. §32- 2101(16). Thus, a salesperson may not receive compensation as a licensee from any person or through any entity, including a licensee’s LLC, other than the employing broker to which the salesperson is licensed. After reading the following statement, a real estate agent might determine that licensure is required and apply for licensure under Title 6 Chapter 9 as a loan originator. For a real estate agent to be a properly licensed loan originator it would then require that a real estate agent become an employee of a mortgage broker or banker? The next question and answer by DRE becomes increasingly problematic. Are there any additional licensing restrictions that apply to FHA loans regulated by the U.S. Department of Housing (HUD)? Yes. Loan originators must be employed by a licensed mortgage broker who is responsible for the supervision of the loan originator. Under HUD rules, a mortgage broker who handles FHA loans is prohibited from employing staff who are also employed in the real estate field. For further information about HUD's requirements, visit www.hud.gov. So, under the HUD rules, a HUD approved mortgagee is prohibited from employing staff who are also employed in the real estate field. This leaves only those mortgage brokers / bankers in AZ who do not offer FHA loans. In today’s real estate market and in view of current lending constraints, this leaves very few options. Conclusion The DRE Update has provided clarity to many of the issues and questions facing Real Estate Agents in the area of Short Sales. What is now clear is that those agents who are engaged by another real estate agent, broker or even a homeowner to negotiate short sale and who receive compensation are in violation of ARS Section 32-2155 (C ) and are required to obtain a license v.2010 602.774.3757 | 602.840.3290 Fax | 2701 East Camelback Road | Suite 150 | Phoenix, Arizona 85016 | www.ThomsonLawPLC.com
  • 5. FOR DISTRIBUTION JANUARY 15, 2011 PAGE 5 OF 5 from DFI. 4 It is now equally clear that those third party negotiators that operate under the umbrella of an LLC or a brokerage also are in violation of ARS Section 32-2101(16). Finally, it is now clear that those Real Estate Agents that list and market a property and who only “assists” the seller as an accommodation with the negotiation with the lenders for no additional compensation is acting lawfully. What remains unclear is the definition of “assist” in the context of negotiating a short sale. Based upon the positions taken by DRE, DFI and the AG’s office, it seems reasonably clear that “assisting” a homeowner with the negotiation of a short sale would not include the direct and exclusive handling of the direct negotiations with the lenders. Certainly, as it pertains to the specific negotiations with a lender to obtain the release or extinguishment of deficiency balances, such negotiations would go well beyond mere “assistance” of a homeowner and would consist of representing a borrower on a disputed debt obligation. While some bright lines in the area of authority for Real Estate Agents in Short Sale transaction have now been established, there remain several areas of uncertainty that remain to be decided. What can be said is that Real Estate Agents should act prudently in determining the limits of their roles for a homeowner and eliminate potential violations of the statutory and regulatory requirements by avoiding the seeking of legal guidance. Kevin W. Hardin CMB, CMC, CMPS Neil W. Thomson, Esq. Thomson Law, PLC www.ThomsonLawPLC.com www.MortgageMediationGroup.com 2701 E. Camelback Rd. Suite 150 Phoenix, AZ 85016 602-774-3757 If you have any questions please call our firm at the number above. The Mortgage Mediation Group is a practice group of the Law Firm of Thomson Law, PLC. This group is focused on assisting homeowners facing a point today or in the future when they can no longer afford their mortgage or it no longer is feasible to pay AND owe more than their home is worth. Solutions can range from Mortgage Liability Review, Short Sale Review and Negotiation, Loan Modification, Lien Settlement, Foreclosure Defense, Deficiency Defense, Deed in Lieu and Bankruptcy (Chapter 7, 13, Lien Strip and Mortgage Cramdown). 4 Information on obtaining a loan originator and other licenses is available on the DFI website at www.dfi.gov v.2010 602.774.3757 | 602.840.3290 Fax | 2701 East Camelback Road | Suite 150 | Phoenix, Arizona 85016 | www.ThomsonLawPLC.com