Robert Frost: Some Personal Reflections

Preamble:
From time to time in these years of my retirement from half a century
of a student-and-employment life, 1949 to 1999 and, in this case, in
the last three weeks before I enter my 70s, I have taken an interest in
some particular writer or poet, philosopher or historian, psychologist or
sociologist, among other specialists in some discipline of learning.
Usually I remember what led to this interest; sometimes I don't. In
this case I remember coming across a review by that fine Australian
essayist, Clive James, of a new volume of letters by Robert Forst.1 This
led to my bringing together several pieces of my prose and poetry
written during these my retirement years, 1999 to 2014, on the
subject of Robert Frost. While gathering together these several pages
of writing, my interest in Frost's reasons for writing poetry were
piqued.-Ron Price with thanks to 1 Clive James, "The Sound of Sense:
Clive James on Robert Frost," Prospect, 23/1/'14, on 4/7/'14.
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LIKE ROBERT FROST
Part 1:
Like Robert Frost’s writing of poetry it was instinct that kept me going
in the direction I took in the 1990s, and in the direction I also took in
the 21st century. An inner feeling, an intuition, a combination of sense
experience, my use of the rational faculty, and many decades of
experience told me I was doing the right thing.1 Like Frost, I did not
expect to have my poetry recognized although, after the first 25 years
of my poetic production--say, 1980 to 2005-- I began to hope for, if
not expect, recognition.
Now, in 2014, after nearly 25 years of extensive writing under my
literary belt, and nearly 35 years of occasional work, to say nothing
about the more than 3 decades before that of what you might call 'my
lifespan warm-up', I still have not detected any sense of significant
enthusiasm for my poems. There has been one individual exception,
the editor of Kalimat Press, Anthony Lee, who offered back in 1999 to
make a chapbook of my poems. There is also the surprising fact that,
as a result of my efforts to promote, to publicize, my writing in
cyberspace I now have millions of readers.
Part 2:
Like Frost, too, I try to get the qualities of intimate conversation
into what I write. If what I write is not to the personal taste of

readers, I continue writing to my own taste. I have simplified
my content and style over the years to make my work more
accessible to readers and remove obscurities as much as
possible. I have also added an analytical introspective dimension
which appeals to me and, of course, I hope it also appeals to
readers.
I find, like Frost, that poetry is a way of saying things:
everything has its own particular way, its own seeming
inevitability, its own musicality in the rhythms of the language
around us; it's also a finding of a form by fitting things into it,
and is the result of discipline and not indulgence.2
-Ron Price
with thanks to 1
Morris P. Tilley, “Notes From Conversations,”
The Inlander, University of Michigan, February 1918; and
2
Clive James, The Sound of Sense: Clive James on Robert Frost,
Prospect, 23/1/'14.
Part 3:
Poetry became for you,
what it is for me: a way
of grappling with my life.
Poetry was for you,
what it is for me: a
way of being true &
and a way of being
sincere, openhearted.
Poetry was for you,
listening for the many
conversations, voices.
Poetry was for you,
kind of permanence
which is perceived
instantly or grows

and also becomes
something loved.
Ron Price
23/11/'00 to 1/7/'14.
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Randall Jarrell(1914-1965) was an American poet, literary critic,
children's author, essayist, novelist, and the 11th Consultant in
Poetry to the Library of Congress, a position that now bears the
title Poet Laureate. Jarrell wrote that Robert Frost's letters
"unmask" him "at least partially".1
They also show that "his life
was as unusual as his poetry." I'm not so sure that is true of me
and my life. It is very hard to judge your own life and work.
Jarrell also says that Frost was very concerned to know what
others thought of his work and whether he was "any good."1
This subject interests me, as well, but I know that this is always
an unknown land filled with so many different reactions from
total indifference to great enthusiasm. I will also leave the
evaluation of my letters to future readers after my passing if, in
fact, they are ever published.-Ron Price with thanks to 1
Randall
Jarrell, Kipling, Auden & Co: Essays and Reviews 1935-1964,
Carcanet Press, Manchester,1981, p.368.
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Robert Frost(1874-1963), writing in the tradition of wisdom
literature, sought to convey the truth that life’s golden moments
must be followed by inevitable losses. While this is true
regarding everything in the physical world and, as Frost says in
the poem ‘none of that pure gold can stay’, the spiritual life
beckons to us all and suggests with more than a brilliant clarity
in the Baha’i writings that ‘something of gold can stay.’
Nature’s first green is gold,
Her hardest hue to hold.
Her early leaf’s a flower;
But only so an hour.
Then leaf subsides to leaf.
So Eden sank down to grief,
So dawn goes down to day.

Nothing gold can stay.
1
Robert Frost, Selected Poems of Robert Frost, p.138.
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The process by which an essay, a memoir, a poem, indeed, any
piece of writing, emerges is partly the way Robert Frost puts it
succinctly and which I quote approvingly here: “Sight, excite,
insight.” Like most good aphorisms this is only partly true.
There is so much more to the process. I write about this process
here, indeed, at many places in the corpus of my written work.
“By the time you start to compose, more than half the work has
been done," wrote Irish Poet Seamus Heaney. "The crucial part
of the business is what happens before you face the empty
page," he continued, "before the moment of first connection,
when an image or a memory comes suddenly to mind and you
feel the lure of the poem-life in it.”1
Most of the writing in my
memoir has taken place from my mid-fifties and to my mid-
sixties.
I find that, like Frost, I can write when I hear the thoughts
carrying-on the conversation which I record. Frost says he can
hear the voices; I only get as far as the thoughts. Frost is also a
delineator of pastoral life with a high degree of readability for
the average punter. This is not true of my work. I am a
delineator of my feelings and thoughts, and I want my readers to
experience both my feelings and my thoughts. My readability
for Everyman is nowhere near that of Frost's.
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ROBERT FROST: A PERSONAL RETROSPECTIVE
When Robert Frost(1875-1963) died on 30 January 1963 he was
the most famous of American poets. It was two months before
his 89th birthday. Three months later on 30 April 1963, the
long-awaited crown of the Baha’i Administrative Order, the
Universal House of Justice, sent its first statement to the Baha’i
1 Seamus Heaney in "Notes From the Underground, " The
Courtland Review, 25 March 2006.

world and opened the second epoch of ‘Abdu’l-Baha’s Divine
Plan.
In January 1963, the last month of his life, Frost knew nothing,
as far as I know, about the Baha’i Faith. He had no idea that,
from a Baha’i perspective, the ninth part of the spiritual
evolution of man, an evolution than began with the Adamic
Cycle, was about to be concluded, and that the tenth part of a
divine process destined to culminate in the Christ-promised
Kingdom of God on earth was about to open in less than three
months.
The tributes of President Kennedy and Premier Khrushchev
dominated the news stories as other final eulogies were
pronounced on Frost in early February. Early in that month, too,
the famous poet Sylvia Plath committed suicide and Barbra
Streisand’s first album was released. The last months and weeks
of what to the Baha’is was known as the Ten Year Crusade
concluded on 21 April 1963, bringing to an end that first epoch
in the grand design of what to the Baha’is was “God’s Holy
Cause.”
I was finishing my matriculation studies in Ontario at the time. I
knew nothing about Robert Frost and had little appreciation of
that grand design of the Baha’i community. Since 1963, though,
I have come to appreciate much more the significance of this
Holy Cause which I have now been associated with for over 60
years. The life and poetry of Robert Frost has become an
inspiration.-Ron Price with thanks to: 11
The Universal House of
Justice, Wellspring of Guidance, Baha’i Pub. Trust, Wilmette,
1969, p.1.
"My object in living is to unite
My avocation and my vocation
As my two eyes make one in sight."
--Robert Frost
I have come to appreciate you, Robert,
especially due to your fears, rages and

jealousies woven and muted poetically
as you wrote poem after poem over all
those decades. Your casualness and its
understatement in your simple pastoral
mode is something that I find difficult to
emulate since it reflects a person, as your
poems and life do, and as mine do as well.
Your disquiet, anxiety about being in this
world without any boundaries, a darkness
due the absence of life-assurances, a fear of
the awful silence of this universe, its infinite
spaces. Without a faith to comfort you in the
face of life’s ultimate bafflement & confusion,
with no vision just art’s safety net: simple and
rugged was your life and work, and what you
stood for is gone. Is your poetry of much use
to us now? asks William Stafford.1
1
William Stafford(1914-1993) was the poet laureate consultant
in poetry to the Library of Congress in 1970. He wrote “The
Terror in Robert Frost” in The New York Times on the Web
which appeared on 18 August 1974 and from which I draw in
the above poem. Stafford at the time was the author of several
collections of poems, including "Allegiances" and "Someday
Maybe." He was also a professor of English at Lewis and Clark
College in Portland Oregon.
I was, at the time this article was published, having my first
successes as a lecturer and tutor in post-secondary education; I
was reading and enjoying immense quantities of print for the
first time in my life, having a whole new set of personal tests,
and was far removed from writing poetry as I would be until the
1980s about the age of 40.
Ron Price
18/1/' 12 to 4/7/'14.
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TWO POETS MEET IN THE SUMMER OF ‘62:
MY TRAVELLING AND POETIZING HAD JUST BEGUN
Part 1:
Great Russian poets are, in some ways, like martyrs of the
church in that vast land. They have thrived on persecution, on
attacks, on being silenced. Such treatment has given a type of
holy status to their work. Anna Akhmatova(1889-1966),
certainly one of the most famous of 20th
century Russian poets,
was very conscious of this status. In 1962, four years before she
died at the age of 76, Robert Frost, the American national poet,
visited the Soviet Union and paid a call on her at the dacha, or
country house, lent to her for the occasion at the writers' colony
near Leningrad. The two distinguished old poets sat side by side
in wicker chairs and talked quietly. For more on Frost’s trip to
Russia go to this link:
http://eraofcasualfridays.net/2010/06/13/on-thursday-august-30-
1962-robert-frost-dined-on-marinated-mushrooms/
I knew nothing of these poets, and little of Russia, at the time
back in 1962. I was immersed in my small town life in
Ontario’s Golden Horseshoe at the age of 18: finishing my high
school studies, working out the relationship to my libido and
girls as well as to the new religion I had joined three years
before, a religion which had been in Canada for some 60 years;1
finishing my short adolescent baseball and hockey careers,
having fun in various forms: swimming in the lakes, eating
sundaes and milk-shakes with my friends at the local Dairy-
Queen, going to the movies at the Roxy theatre in that small
town of 5000, playing touch-football in a local park; attending to
my part-time jobs and ensconced in a small nuclear-family of
three where I have been raised for 18 years between the banks of
Lake Ontario and the Niagara escarpment. Famous poets were in
another universe to mine.

Part 2:
''And I kept thinking,'' Akhmatova wrote after her meeting with
Robert Frost, ''here are you, my dear, a national poet. Every year
your books are published. They praise you in all the newspapers
and journals; they teach you in the schools; even the President
receives you as an honoured guest. All they've done here is
slander me! I've had everything: poverty, prison lines, fear,
poems remembered only by heart, and burnt poems. And
humiliation and grief. You don't know anything about this and
you wouldn't be able to understand it if I told you. But now let's
sit together, two old people, in wicker chairs. A single end
awaits us. And perhaps the real difference is not actually so
great?''2
-Ron Price’s references include: 1
the Baha’i Faith had
been in Canada for 64 years in 1962; and 2
John Bailey,” The
Sheer Necessity for Poetry,” in The New York Times on the
Web, 13 May 1990.3
3
John Bayley was in 1990 the Thomas Warton Professor of
English at the University of Oxford. His books include 'Tolstoy
and the Novel. The piece I have quoted is from warton's review
of The Complete Poems of Anna Akhmatova, Vols 1 and 2,
Zephyr Press, Somerville, Mass., 1990, edited by Roberta
Reeder and translated by Judith Hemschemeyer.
Part 3:
We were all from different universes:
me, Frost and Akhmatova back then.
But, perhaps as Anna, said, “the real
differences were actually not great!!”
I wrote my first poem back then and
it was somewhere out on the edge &
periphery of my life—while society
lived on the edge of extinction that
October as the Cuban missile crisis
nearly engulfed us all so silently….

As I watched TV in the smalltown
smugness of childhood surrounded
by salvation’s complacent trinity of
Catholic, Protestant and Jew, while
Akhmatova had been engulfed most
of her life. Her grave is at a cemetery
near St. Petersburg, if you are ever in
Russia as a tourist for a holiday-visit.
Ron Price....14/1/'12 to 4/7/'14.
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LITTLE UNDERSTOOD
....by some
Edmund Wilson(1895-1972), an all-purpose man of letters and
American literary and social critic, wrote to Lionel Trilling in
August 1959, two months before the TV program The Twilight
Zone was released, and two months, too, before I became a
card-carrying member of the Baha’i international community.
In that letter Wilson said to Trilling: “In my opinion, Robert
Frost is partly a dreadful old fraud and one of the most relentless
self-promoters in the history of American literature.”1
Lionel
Trilling(1905-1975) was, like Wilson, one of the great American
critics of the twentieth century. Robert Frost(1874-1963) was an
American poet and is now highly regarded for his realistic
depictions of rural life and his command of American colloquial
speech. He received four Pulitzer Prizes for poetry. -Ron Price
with thanks to 1
Colm Toibin, “Edmund Wilson: American
Critic,” New York Times, 4 September 2005.
Your reviews and comments have
been described as: brilliant but as
uneven,1
with a restless mind, still

a central figure in the long history
of America’s intellectual narrative.
The only man I know who had an
orgasm reading a book & who then
went to the doctor to find out why!
You were all finishing your life of
letters as I was just starting out in
mine. Little did I know back in the
1950s, 1960s and early 1970s what
would become of me in life’s long
haul; indeed, none of us know, do
we, as we journey from the start to
the finish, to the last syllable of our
recorded time?
What can I say in a short poem like
this about you three great literary
figures who passed by in a century
of light when our world underwent
changes so much more profound
than any in our preceding history,
changes that are very little, hardly,
understood by a silent generation,2
the baby-boomers3
or the X,Y & Z
generations who all coexist on the
planet in this century, this 21st,
which is now only 14 years old.
1
Colm Toibin, New York Times, 4 September 2005.
2
Born between 1925 and 1945; 3
born between 1945 and 1965;
X=1965-1985; Y=1975-2005; Z=1995-2010. These are all
complex and variously interpreted approximations.
Ron Price
17/7/'10 to 4/7/'14.
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THE THINGS WE CARE FOR
Part 1:
One of America’s finest poets(1874-1963), Robert Frost,
published his writings during the years from the passing of
Baha’u’llah in 1892 to the year of the election of the Universal
House of Justice in 1963. He published his first book of poetry,
A Boy’s Will, three months before ‘Abdul-Baha’s return to
Haifa from His western tour. In 1937, just seven weeks after the
beginning of the first Seven Year Plan, he gave the
commencement address at Oberlin College in Ohio.
In that address he said, among other things, “You must seek
reality forever in the things for which you care….(and)…..the
whole function of poetry is the renewal of words.”1
The role of
the poet, to Frost, was to make words mean again what they
once meant. Frost was also trying to make sense of his
experience and, in the process, readers make more sense of their
own lives. To accomplish this he used language as it is spoken,
the texture of the tongues.2
Part 2:
This conversational style, the sound and tone in Frost were not
things that appealed to all poetry critics. For Frost, writing
poetry was his way of grappling with life; it was, for him, a
voyage of discovery, a way out of something. Frost received
four Pulitzer Prizes, more than any other writer.-1
Ron Price,
“Notes on Robert Frost,” Pioneering Over Four Epochs,
March 19th
2006; and 2
Philip Livingood, "On the Poetry of
Robert Frost, Tripod, 6/2/'96.
Complex interlacing strains
blend in my literary ancestry
as I go on seeking things for
which I care and things for
which millions have cared.

Some authentic original voice
has been speaking to me for
decades from somewhere in
a realm of glory, uttered by
a tongue of power and might,
an influence which permeates
and proceeds from some source,
mysterious, creative, shatters my
cup of speech and cannot be even
approached as it remakes all my
faculties, standards in a tired mind.1
1
Horace Holley in The Ocean of His Words, John Hatcher,
Wilmette, 1997, p.3.
Ron Price
20/3/'06 to 4/7/'14.
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