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1.
2. How to Understand Your
Personality and What
Practice Area, Type Firm, or
Practice Setting You Should
be Working in by Using DISC
Profiles
BY HARRISON BARNES
3. Introduction
I frequently see attorneys fail in the practice of law because they chose the wrong practice
area, practice setting, law firm, or are in the wrong profession entirely.
◦ This is understandable.
◦ If you do not know yourself and where you are likely to be happy, you are bound to fail.
◦ By the end of this article, you are going to have the ability to understand what sort of practice area you
should be in, what sort of type of law firm (or practice setting) you should be in and whether or not you
should be practicing law at all.
◦ You will also take away with you an excellent understanding of other people and why you do, or do not,
get along with them and the sorts of people you should and should not be working with.
4. Introduction
I’ve recently started meeting with a man who runs a $150-million company painting houses
and doing construction work for HOAs around the country a few times a month to understand
how he runs his company and evaluates his people.
◦ The man is not a lawyer and is uneducated; however, he has become very successful by some simple
tools he uses to understand himself and others.
◦ This man is the third or fourth incredibly successful entrepreneur I have spoken with over the past
several years to use the same method to understand himself and others.
◦ I used to use the same process for evaluating legal recruiters that I was hiring and found it useful—but
at some point, I stopped.
5. Introduction
Attorneys will fit into different types of law firms and practice settings depending on how
they see themselves and the world.
◦ The sorts of jobs that others want to plug you into will also determine whether or not you are
successful as well.
◦ One of the biggest mistakes that attorneys make when searching for positions and looking for new
jobs is to believe they should be working with a particular group of people, or in a certain type of
environment when they really should not be.
◦ Law firms that are hiring associates, partners and others should also keep several things in mind when
doing their hiring
6. Introduction
One of the benefits of working with a legal recruiter is that they can help you narrow down
what is the best environment for you.
◦ The analysis tool this man uses, as well as several people I have worked with in the past use, is called
DISC Assessment.
◦ DISC is a tool based on the DISC theory of psychologist and attorney, William Moulton Marston, which
centers on the personality traits of Dominance (D), Influence (I), Steadiness--Supportive (S), and
Conscientiousness (C).
◦ Understanding how you fit in with these different personality traits can tell you a lot about where you
should be practicing.
7. The Meaning Of Dominance—the “D”
In Disc Profiles: To Succeed in Large
Law Firms and Markets You Generally
Need to be Dominant
8. The Meaning Of Dominance—the “D” In
Disc Profiles: To Succeed in Large Law
Firms and Markets You Generally Need
to be Dominant
The “dominance” of this personality is often described by these words:
◦ Direct.
◦ Decisive.
◦ Driven.
◦ Results.
◦ Demanding.
◦ Task-oriented.
9. The Meaning Of Dominance—the “D” In
Disc Profiles: To Succeed in Large Law
Firms and Markets You Generally Need
to be Dominant
◦ A person that is a high D is highly focused on getting things done.
◦ They are very passionate and prefer to lead rather than follow.
◦ They work hard to achieve goals.
◦ They would rather be working than not working.
◦ They are motivated by winning and thrive in environments where they are competing with
others.
◦ They often fear being seen as vulnerable and possibly being taken advantage of.
◦ They want to be seen as successful and powerful.
10. The Meaning Of Dominance—the “D” In
Disc Profiles: To Succeed in Large Law
Firms and Markets You Generally Need
to be Dominant
◦ They are goal and task oriented.
Most attorneys are high achievers, competitive and goal and task-oriented.
◦ They may set their sights on going to the best college and law school possible and getting into the best
law firm they can.
◦ They may also be very motivated by being competitive with others and succeeding in competition with
them.
◦ They get into the best schools because they do better than those around them and stand out—they
will often have the best grades, most extracurricular activities and strongest looking backgrounds on
paper.
Who knows why people are this way.
11. The Meaning Of Dominance—the “D” In
Disc Profiles: To Succeed in Large Law
Firms and Markets You Generally Need
to be Dominant
◦ In many cases, they have something to prove—to their parents, siblings, self, or others. Regardless,
these extremely driven personalities are perfect for major law firms, in major cities.
◦ Unless you are very competitive, task-oriented and have something to prove, there is very little reason
to subject oneself to the sorts of hours and pressure of a large law firm.
◦ Getting on the competitive wheel of a major law firm is a lot of pressure, and it is not for everyone.
Being driven and competitive is very important when succeeding as an attorney in a major law firm, but I
think there are other qualities that are important as well.
◦ The article below articulates those other traits that help attorneys succeed.
12. The Meaning Of Dominance—the “D” In
Disc Profiles: To Succeed in Large Law
Firms and Markets You Generally Need
to be Dominant
I meet attorneys and others all the time who I can tell have no business working in large law
firms.
◦ They are too nice. Not competitive enough.
◦ Not driven enough and have nothing to prove.
◦ They may be smart, have gone to good law schools and have other abilities—but they do not belong in
large law firms.
◦ Every year countless people come out of the very best law schools—Harvard, Michigan, Columbia and
others who, frankly, may be good students and test takers but have no business working in major law
firms: The major law firms would eat them up alive.
13. The Meaning Of Dominance—the “D” In
Disc Profiles: To Succeed in Large Law
Firms and Markets You Generally Need
to be Dominant
◦ The same thing goes for many attorneys who choose to teach law and go into academia, public service,
clerkships and pursue other occupations.
◦ You need to enjoy competing with others, want to get ahead and want to work hard and prove
something to stay in most large law firms.
◦ You need to want to make as much money as possible and achieve something.
Most major law firm attorneys are motivated by the competition with others and often
concerned about their hours, money and how they appear compared to others they know.
◦ They will often try and undermine others; they will work harder than them; they will always try and be
the best.
14. The Meaning Of Dominance—the “D” In
Disc Profiles: To Succeed in Large Law
Firms and Markets You Generally Need
to be Dominant
◦ The best law firms can channel this high motivation into profit by using it to get lots of hours and the
best work they possibly can out of their attorneys.
◦ To get positions in the largest law firms, an attorney will often need to be extremely dominant.
◦ Law firms will instinctively pick up this personality trait in interviews and use it to channel your
motivation into lots of hours and improved work product.
◦ Whether they realize it or not, law firms use the natural “dominant” characteristics of attorneys and
their need to feel important, better than their peers at smaller firms and desire to feel successful to
exploit them and make lots of money.
◦ Even partners are exploited by this system.
15. The Meaning Of Dominance—the “D” In
Disc Profiles: To Succeed in Large Law
Firms and Markets You Generally Need
to be Dominant
◦ As long as you want to be ahead of others, you will believe you belong on the hamster wheel and need
to keep competing to find inner fulfillment.
This dynamic of competitiveness and exploitation can often lead attorney to become
stressed and unable to handle the mental ramifications that come as a result of such long
hours and constant comparison among peers.
◦ I’ve seen it happen many times to attorneys some of whom were close to me as well.
If you want to be part of a large law firm, and remain there, you generally will need to be
very dominant.
16. The Meaning Of Dominance—the “D” In
Disc Profiles: To Succeed in Large Law
Firms and Markets You Generally Need
to be Dominant
◦ You will need to be motivated by competing with others and want to have the most hours compared to
your peers.
◦ You will be task oriented.
◦ As a partner in a major law firm, you will want to have as much business as possible and be competitive
with other partners and make the most money.
◦ If you do not feel you are making the most money, you will leave.
◦ If you are high “D” you may also be motivated by the quality of law firm you are in.
◦ The highest “Ds” tend always to want to be in better law firms, work with better attorneys and be
considered to be working in the most prestigious law firms.
17. The Meaning Of Dominance—the “D” In
Disc Profiles: To Succeed in Large Law
Firms and Markets You Generally Need
to be Dominant
The most motivated of high Ds often quickly conclude that working in a major law firm is not
worth it.
◦ They look around them and see other attorneys killing themselves working a lot of hours and not
becoming partners, or advancing meaningfully in their careers, and conclude that they could be more
successful elsewhere.
◦ High D attorneys also often find themselves in a position where they realize that they are so
competitive that it does not make sense for them to direct their energies inside of a law firm, but will
direct it elsewhere instead.
The most motivated of high D attorneys in large law firms generally make this leap—which is
generally fatal to them ever working in a law firm again.
18. The Meaning Of Dominance—the “D” In
Disc Profiles: To Succeed in Large Law
Firms and Markets You Generally Need
to be Dominant
◦ Someone running a business has more independence, more long-term earning potential and more
control over their time than an attorney in a large law firm.
◦ Someone with a business has far more potential to become someone important, very rich and well-
known in the world than an attorney.
◦ Working in a law firm constrains you.
◦ You may not make partner; your future will be controlled by outside forces (how much other attorneys
decide you are going to make, whether or not the firm brings in enough work and more).
◦ It is for this reason that law firms rarely hire attorneys who have started businesses after some time
practicing law.
19. The Meaning Of Dominance—the “D” In
Disc Profiles: To Succeed in Large Law
Firms and Markets You Generally Need
to be Dominant
◦ They know that this psychology will take over for them again.
Many high Ds who enjoy the practice of law also conclude that the business they should start
is another law firm.
◦ They believe they should get as many of the law firm clients as they possibly can and leave.
◦ This is another reason that law firms have very little interest in hiring attorneys who are solo
practitioners, or who have left and started law firms.
◦ Law firms want “high D” attorneys but are not necessarily interested in attorneys who are so high D
that they are likely to leave again.
20. The Meaning Of Dominance—the “D” In
Disc Profiles: To Succeed in Large Law
Firms and Markets You Generally Need
to be Dominant
When law firms are hiring attorneys, they need to make a careful calculation of whether or
not that person is truly suited to practicing law in a large law firm.
◦ The law firm needs to understand whether or not the person is motivated and high D enough to
succeed—or so high D that they are unlikely to be a good fit in a major law firm.
Best Practice Settings:
Large, competitive law firm
Solo practitioner or firm owner
Business owner
21. The Meaning Of Dominance—the “D” In
Disc Profiles: To Succeed in Large Law
Firms and Markets You Generally Need
to be Dominant
Leader of a company
Prosecutor
Firm in a major city
General Counsel of a company
The dominant personality wants to feel important, in control and like they are accomplishing
something big.
◦ These settings allow for this.
22. The Meaning Of Dominance—the “D” In Disc
Profiles: To Succeed In Large Law Firms And
Markets You Generally Need To Be Dominant
Worst Practice Settings:
Routine government jobs
Academia
Public Interest
Judicial
Small town legal practice
Most in-house jobs
23. The Meaning Of Dominance—the “D” In
Disc Profiles: To Succeed in Large Law
Firms and Markets You Generally Need
to be Dominant
The most dominant people are not happy in positions that do not allow them to be the center
of attention and feel like they are not accomplishing more than others.
◦ They want to make as much money as possible and be seen as successful and powerful compared to
their peers—something these sorts of positions do not allow for.
◦ High D attorneys want to be in positions and around others where there is a high degree of motivation
to get ahead.
24. The Meaning Of Dominance—the “D” In
Disc Profiles: To Succeed in Large Law
Firms and Markets You Generally Need
to be Dominant
Best Practice Areas:
◦ Litigation
◦ Corporate
◦ Entertainment
◦ Criminal Law
◦ Family Law
◦ Labor and employment
25. The Meaning Of Dominance—the “D” In
Disc Profiles: To Succeed in Large Law
Firms and Markets You Generally Need
to be Dominant
These practice areas allow the attorney to be the center of attention, compete with others
and get the sense of winning and being the best.
◦ They also tend to attract many sorts of competitive attorneys as well.
Worst Practice Areas:
◦ Bankruptcy
◦ Insurance Coverage
◦ Real Estate
◦ Tax
26. The Meaning Of Dominance—the “D” In
Disc Profiles: To Succeed in Large Law
Firms and Markets You Generally Need
to be Dominant
Patent Law
Trust and Estates
These practice areas (not always, but often) tend to be quite routine and not attract the most
competitive types of attorneys.
◦ These practice areas do not give attorneys the opportunity to draw a lot of attention to themselves
and shine compared to others.
◦ They tend to be more collaborative than involve people competing with one another.
27. The Meaning Of Influence—the “I” In
Disc Profiles: Different Practice Areas
Are More Suited To The Influencer
Personality Than Others.
28. The Meaning Of Influence—the “I” In Disc
Profiles: Different Practice Areas Are More
Suited To The Influencer Personality Than
Others.
Someone who is an influencer has a desire to create their environment by influencing others.
◦ They can be described by the words:
◦ Optimistic.
◦ Persuasive.
◦ Talkative.
◦ Emotional.
◦ Social.
29. The Meaning Of Influence—the “I” In Disc
Profiles: Different Practice Areas Are More
Suited To The Influencer Personality Than
Others.
◦ An influencer enjoys being around others.
◦ Influencers are not afraid to be the center of attention.
◦ Influencers often have good senses of humor and are positive people in their
environments.
◦ Influencers are motivated by the approval of others.
◦ Influencers are motivated by having the opportunity to verbalize their ideas.
◦ Influencers do not like spending a lot of time alone.
◦ High “I” influencers often do not like a lot of details and may be perceived as disorganized.
30. The Meaning Of Influence—the “I” In Disc
Profiles: Different Practice Areas Are More
Suited To The Influencer Personality Than
Others.
◦ Influencers are concerned with who is going to be around for various social and other
events.
Influencers can and cannot work in certain law firm environments and practice areas.
The most suitable practice area for an influencer is, of course, being a litigator.
◦ As a litigator, the person can write, express their ideas verbally and be heard.
◦ Influencers also can get the constant approval of others when they succeed in court, in negotiations,
and for their clients.
◦ Influencer attorneys enjoy going up against well-known attorneys in court, being able to verbalize their
idea and convincing clients and the other side that a certain course of action is a good idea.
31. The Meaning Of Influence—the “I” In Disc
Profiles: Different Practice Areas Are More
Suited To The Influencer Personality Than
Others.
◦ Litigators like the idea that when they are working, they are generally constantly interacting with
others to get things done.
◦ Many of the best litigators I used to work with enjoyed the idea that they singlehandedly won a case or
a matter. High “I” litigators want to be the center of attention.
The problem with high “I” litigators is that this personality is not always appropriate for the
largest law firms.
◦ The largest law firms want “soldiers” to do the work and not necessarily associates to take the
spotlight.
32. The Meaning Of Influence—the “I” In Disc
Profiles: Different Practice Areas Are More
Suited To The Influencer Personality Than
Others.
◦ There are different types of partners inside of law firms as well – there are service partners behind the
scenes, and there are those that are out in the limelight drawing attention to themselves, being seen
and taking all the credit.
◦ High influencers often have a difficult time surviving in large law firms if they are too eager for praise
and attention early in their careers.
◦ The most classic of high-influencer litigator moves is to state that they need more “courtroom”
experience or “trial experience” and want to move firms due to this.
◦ This sort of reason for wanting to move firms means that the high influencer is unlikely to be happy in a
major law firm.
33. The Meaning Of Influence—the “I” In Disc
Profiles: Different Practice Areas Are More
Suited To The Influencer Personality Than
Others.
◦ High influencers are often happier in roles where they can be the center of attention—even if it means
less money.
◦ Also, high influencers will often feel constrained in large law firms.
◦ It is for this reason that many high influencers do not do well inside of law firms.
◦ They need to have enough of an influencer personality to be good writers and so forth; however, they
do not need to be the center of attention.
It has always been interesting for me seeing litigators in some of the largest and most major
law firms.
◦ They are not high influencers and are most comfortable behind a desk and not in court.
34. The Meaning Of Influence—the “I” In Disc
Profiles: Different Practice Areas Are More
Suited To The Influencer Personality Than
Others.
◦ The large law firms like this because the partners are the ones that have this personality—and not even
the majority of them have it.
◦ When doing work for major corporations, many lawyers in large firms are more technicians than
influencers.
◦ They spend their time on technical matters, finding fault and attacking the work product of the lawyers
who tend to be very high influencers.
In contrast, many other practice areas such as patent law, tax, ERISA, real estate, technology
transactions, trust and estates and even many types of corporate law—transactional practice
areas—are much better suited for attorneys who do not have influence-related skills.
35. The Meaning Of Influence—the “I” In Disc
Profiles: Different Practice Areas Are More
Suited To The Influencer Personality Than
Others.
◦ They may be more interested in being technicians and not grandstanding and having the attention of
other people, for example.
◦ In many law firms, the people who do the work—even in litigation—tend to be people without
influence-related skills.
◦ The people who interface with clients and are in the limelight have this instead.
Different law firms also have different cultures.
◦ For example, the first law firm I ever worked in was comprised only of litigators.
◦ The majority of litigators in this law firm tended to be influencers.
36. The Meaning Of Influence—the “I” In Disc
Profiles: Different Practice Areas Are More
Suited To The Influencer Personality Than
Others.
◦ The next law firm I worked in was a general practice law firm that had litigators in it.
◦ The majority of the law firm was comprised of corporate attorneys.
◦ Here, the litigators and most of the people inside of the law firm tended not to be influencers.
◦ The culture of the law firm was built around servicing large institutional clients and being in the
background, and not on drawing attention to oneself.
37. The Meaning Of Influence—the “I” In Disc
Profiles: Different Practice Areas Are More
Suited To The Influencer Personality Than
Others.
Best Practice Settings:
Anywhere the attorneys can influence and be around others
Political office
Public interest
Many law firms that welcome this sort of personality
Sales-oriented jobs that require a law degree
Academics
38. The Meaning Of Influence—the “I” In Disc
Profiles: Different Practice Areas Are More
Suited To The Influencer Personality Than
Others.
An attorney who is a high influencer wants to be around others and have the opportunity to
shape them to their point of view.
◦ They are social and crave environments where they can talk to others and influence them.
Worst Practice Settings:
Anywhere the attorney is not around others and cannot influence them
Solo practitioner
Law firms that stifles creativity and debate about ideas
Many corporate environments where the attorney is faceless and nameless
39. The Meaning Of Influence—the “I” In Disc
Profiles: Different Practice Areas Are More
Suited To The Influencer Personality Than
Others.
High influencer attorneys want their ideas heard, and they want to be around people who will
listen to them.
◦ Any practice setting that prevents this sort of debate and does not welcome this from the attorney is
likely to make them feel like they are not doing well.
◦ It is not uncommon for an attorney who is a high influencer to leave a firm when they feel their ideas
are not taken seriously, or they do not have many friends to discuss ideas with.
40. The Meaning Of Influence—the “I” In Disc
Profiles: Different Practice Areas Are More
Suited To The Influencer Personality Than
Others.
Best Practice Areas:
Any practice area where the attorney gets to be around a lot of other people and influence
them.
Litigation
Corporate
Entertainment
Criminal Law
Family Law
41. The Meaning Of Influence—the “I” In Disc
Profiles: Different Practice Areas Are More
Suited To The Influencer Personality Than
Others.
Trust and Estates
Labor and Employment
These practice areas allow the attorney to be the center of attention, compete with others
and get the sense of winning and being the best.
◦ They also tend to attract many sorts of competitive attorneys as well.
Worst Practice Areas:
Any practice area where the attorney feels isolated and as if they are not connecting with
and influencing others
42. The Meaning Of Influence—the “I” In Disc
Profiles: Different Practice Areas Are More
Suited To The Influencer Personality Than
Others.
Real Estate
Tax
Patent Law
ERISA
Many types of finance
Anything overly clerical, or transactional that does not involve people and influencing them—
even litigation can be this way if you are doing discovery or document review, for example.
43. The Meaning Of Steadiness—the “S”
In A Disc Profile: Most Attorneys
Tend Towards Being Steady and
Desiring Supportive Roles
44. The Meaning Of Steadiness—the “S” In
A Disc Profile: Most Attorneys Tend
Towards Being Steady and Desiring
Supportive Roles
Someone who is steady is interested in cooperating with others to complete tasks that
support others and maintain stability.
◦ They can be described by the words:
◦ Cooperative.
◦ Collaborative.
◦ Stable.
◦ Consistent.
◦ Loyal.
45. The Meaning Of Steadiness—the “S” In
A Disc Profile: Most Attorneys Tend
Towards Being Steady and Desiring
Supportive Roles
◦ Patient.
A steady personality:
◦ Does not like change.
◦ Does not want to offend others.
◦ Tends to be dependable.
◦ Likes to be in a role where they support others.
◦ Does not like being the center of attention and promoting themselves.
◦ Feels secure following rules and in a role where they help others follow the rules.
46. The Meaning Of Steadiness—the “S” In
A Disc Profile: Most Attorneys Tend
Towards Being Steady and Desiring
Supportive Roles
◦ Wants to be accepted by the group.
◦ Likes working with teams and cooperating.
◦ Values consistency.
◦ Does not enjoy confrontation.
The steadiness personality is something that applies to a lot of lawyers.
◦ Lawyers like to be in a role where they are supporting clients behind the scenes and not necessarily the
center of attention.
◦ Most middle-class professions—of which being an attorney is one—tend to attract people who value
steadiness.
47. The Meaning Of Steadiness—the “S” In
A Disc Profile: Most Attorneys Tend
Towards Being Steady and Desiring
Supportive Roles
◦ Lawyers who work in most major law firms, rather than on their own, value steadiness.
◦ The traditional idea of going to good schools to get the best job possible and work for someone else
(the middle class ideal) centers around supporting the needs of someone else in exchange for a steady
paycheck.
◦ Attorneys by their very nature are representing the needs of others in the market—they are supporting
them by protecting them from issues.
◦ Most attorneys look out for their clients’ interest and try and guard them against problems that would
disturb the status quo.
◦ Whether they are representing a client in a transaction, or a litigation matter, their goal is to bring
things back to a state of equilibrium for the client—complete the transaction, settle the case and so
forth.
48. The Meaning Of Steadiness—the “S” In
A Disc Profile: Most Attorneys Tend
Towards Being Steady and Desiring
Supportive Roles
Some attorneys value steadiness more than others.
◦ The attorneys who value it the most will likely surround themselves with other attorneys and be in the
least adverse practice areas—transactional ones.
◦ These attorneys want to work in firms where they are surrounded by lots of others; they have partners
and feel like they are cooperating with others.
◦ Natural attorneys also like rules, the law and helping their clients follow these laws.
◦ People who are not natural attorneys do not look upon their role as to support others—they are more
concerned with themselves.
49. The Meaning Of Steadiness—the “S” In
A Disc Profile: Most Attorneys Tend
Towards Being Steady and Desiring
Supportive Roles
If you are going to practice law and enjoy what you are doing, you need to enjoy supporting
others and solving their problems.
◦ You need to feel you are contributing to the success of groups through your actions.
◦ You need to be excited about solving the problems of others.
◦ Happy attorneys need to think this way and prioritize the needs of others over their own.
◦ The best attorneys should also feel their actions are supporting the group and believe in this.
If an attorney is not motivated by solving the problems of others they are going to be
unhappy practicing law.
50. The Meaning Of Steadiness—the “S” In
A Disc Profile: Most Attorneys Tend
Towards Being Steady and Desiring
Supportive Roles
◦ If the attorney is unhappy working in groups, they are going to be unhappy in most law firms.
One of the reasons so many lawyers are unhappy in law firms in the United States is because
the law has become so depersonalized compared to what it may have been 50+ years ago.
◦ The natural makeup of the steadiness personality attorney is geared towards assisting others,
cooperating with groups and not feeling multitasked.
◦ In a large law firm, the attorney’s natural need to support others is often pulled in many different
directions.
51. The Meaning Of Steadiness—the “S” In
A Disc Profile: Most Attorneys Tend
Towards Being Steady and Desiring
Supportive Roles
◦ The attorney will find themselves in a position of working for a corporation it never
interacts with on matters that feel insignificant.
◦ Instead of cooperating with others, the attorney will be working in an environment where
their peers (other attorneys) may be perceived to be out to get them.
◦ The attorney will not be in a stable environment because attorneys will be leaving and
losing their jobs all the time and the attorney will never feel safe.
All of this makes the modern, large law firm something that many attorneys detest because it
is at complete odds with their personality makeups.
52. The Meaning Of Steadiness—the “S” In
A Disc Profile: Most Attorneys Tend
Towards Being Steady and Desiring
Supportive Roles
◦ Instead of wanting to work in a large law firm, attorneys often want to go in-house and say they want to
do so “so they can work with just one client.”
◦ They want to feel like they are in a supportive role and making a direct contribution.
◦ They want to feel like they are someplace steady.
◦ They want to feel like they are working with a group that gets along.
◦ While all of this is quite understandable, in most cases, this is the exact opposite of what attorneys find
once they arrive in-house.
◦ Companies go out of business, merge, hire and fire CEOs, General Counsels, sell off business divisions,
get sued, close offices and more.
53. The Meaning Of Steadiness—the “S” In
A Disc Profile: Most Attorneys Tend
Towards Being Steady and Desiring
Supportive Roles
◦ Companies are even more unstable than most law firms.
What is an attorney seeking steadiness to do?
◦ One of the things that I have noticed is that attorneys who work in smaller to midsized markets—think
Madison, Grand Rapids, Rochester, Sacramento, Tucson, San Antonio, Jacksonville, Charleston—tend
to have much longer, happier careers than attorneys who try and practice in major markets.
◦ Attorneys in smaller markets tend to huddle together and protect one another more.
◦ There is less pressure to make a lot of money.
◦ People tend to work on smaller clients and have a bigger role in solving their issues.
54. The Meaning Of Steadiness—the “S” In
A Disc Profile: Most Attorneys Tend
Towards Being Steady and Desiring
Supportive Roles
◦ I have noticed that attorneys—regardless of the law school they attended—are happier, more well-
adjusted and seem to enjoy the practice of law much more.
◦ They do not salivate like mad dogs at the thought of going in house—or even have that as a goal.
◦ They tend to be much happier.
◦ I believe this is because the smaller law firms in medium to smaller sized markets are a place where an
attorney’s natural desire for steadiness is supported.
55. The Meaning Of Steadiness—the “S” In
A Disc Profile: Most Attorneys Tend
Towards Being Steady and Desiring
Supportive Roles
Best Practice Settings:
Anywhere the attorney can feel secure in their position
Government position
Support role in a noncompetitive law firm-they do exist
Public interest
Academia
Judicial environments
56. The Meaning Of Steadiness—the “S” In
A Disc Profile: Most Attorneys Tend
Towards Being Steady and Desiring
Supportive Roles
Support role inside of a company
Small, family-owned law firms-these often do not have a lot of turnover and minimal conflict
Smaller to midsized markets without a lot of movement in them-these often do not have a lot
of turnover and minimal conflict
The steady attorney does well in positions that allow them to support others and at the same
time feel secure in their environments.
◦ People who are high in the support quotient want to be in positions where they feel secure and are not
under attack all the time.
57. The Meaning Of Steadiness—the “S” In
A Disc Profile: Most Attorneys Tend
Towards Being Steady and Desiring
Supportive Roles
◦ They value consistency.
◦ Consequently, they are more likely to accept less money in exchange for consistency than they might
otherwise make in the market.
◦ They are not concerned about drawing attention to themselves and do not need to be in the limelight.
Worst Practice Settings:
Anywhere the attorney does not feel secure
Law firms with a lot of turnover and conflict
Companies with a lot of turnover and conflict
58. The Meaning Of Steadiness—the “S” In
A Disc Profile: Most Attorneys Tend
Towards Being Steady and Desiring
Supportive Roles
Positions that require business generation to get paid
Positions where compensation is variable and unpredictable
Law firms in major cities—these typically have a lot of turnover
Steady attorneys do not like unpredictable legal environments or ones where they are likely
to lose their position.
◦ They do not like conflict either. Larger law firms and markets tend to have a lot of conflict and
attorneys are unlikely to be happy in them.
59. The Meaning Of Steadiness—the “S” In
A Disc Profile: Most Attorneys Tend
Towards Being Steady and Desiring
Supportive Roles
Best Practice Areas:
Any practice area where the attorney is not in conflict with others—or is allowed to work
behind the scenes--most transactional practice areas.
Tax
Patent Law
Many types of finance
ERISA
60. The Meaning Of Steadiness—the “S” In
A Disc Profile: Most Attorneys Tend
Towards Being Steady and Desiring
Supportive Roles
The classic supportive attorney enjoys a position in tax law, for example, where they are
expected to sit down at a desk each day and work a certain number of hours and know that if
they can do this, they will be fine.
◦ This makes them happy. Different personality types do not enjoy this sort of thing—the supportive
attorney does.
Worst Practice Areas:
Any practice area where the attorney is in conflict with others, there are winners and losers
and which is unpredictable by nature.
Litigation
61. The Meaning Of Steadiness—the “S” In
A Disc Profile: Most Attorneys Tend
Towards Being Steady and Desiring
Supportive Roles
Criminal Law
Family Law
Trust and Estates
These practice areas put the attorney in conflict with others, require them to hurt others and
are unpredictable by nature.
◦ These are not the sort of practice areas the typical attorney enjoys.
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62. The Meaning Of Steadiness—the “S” In
A Disc Profile: Most Attorneys Tend
Towards Being Steady and Desiring
Supportive Roles
◦ Do you think that these assessments are correct, do you agree or disagree?
◦ Please share your thoughts and leave a comment below.
63. The Meaning Of Conscientious—the
“C” In The Disc Profile: Almost All
Attorneys Are Conscientious by
Nature
64. The Meaning Of Conscientious—the “C”
In The Disc Profile: Almost All Attorneys
Are Conscientious by Nature
Someone who is conscientious is motivated by producing excellent work.
◦ They can be described by the words:
◦ Accuracy.
◦ Careful.
◦ Cautious.
◦ Calculating.
◦ Objectiveness.
◦ Stability.
65. The Meaning Of Conscientious—the “C”
In The Disc Profile: Almost All Attorneys
Are Conscientious by Nature
◦ Systematic.
◦ Critical.
The conscientious personality:
◦ Wants to produce work that is not criticized.
◦ Likes to challenge assumptions in thinking.
◦ Likes to research and come up with the correct information.
◦ Enjoys showing their expertise with the work they produce.
66. The Meaning Of Conscientious—the “C”
In The Disc Profile: Almost All Attorneys
Are Conscientious by Nature
The conscientious personality is particularly suited to lawyers.
◦ To practice law in a major law firm, an attorney needs to be conscientious—there is absolutely no
doubt about it.
◦ The clients of large law firms expect well-researched work that is delivered flawlessly (without typos,
grammatical errors, formatting and other errors).
◦ The best attorneys take a tremendous amount of pride in the quality of the work they produce, and it is
impossible to work in a major firm and be taken seriously unless you are conscientious.
◦ In fact, not being incredibly conscientious is a very quick way to distinguish the best lawyers from the
poorest ones.
67. The Meaning Of Conscientious—the “C”
In The Disc Profile: Almost All Attorneys
Are Conscientious by Nature
The larger the client you represent—and the larger the law firm—the more conscientious you
will need to be.
◦ At its lowest level, when you see the work produced by attorneys in the smallest law firms where
individuals are typically represented that do not have a lot of money (in low stakes family law, criminal
matters, personal injury, low-level insurance defense, and immigration, for example) the work will be
littered with typos, formatting errors, errors of law and more.
◦ Attorneys in the smallest law firms often do not have the time to be conscientious because their
clients are not paying them.
◦ Attorneys in larger law firms that work with the largest clients are expected to be more and more
conscientious.
68. The Meaning Of Conscientious—the “C”
In The Disc Profile: Almost All Attorneys
Are Conscientious by Nature
◦ When judges evaluate the work product of poor attorneys without resources behind them compared
to the best attorneys, there is often no comparison.
◦ The best lawyers are careful, their legal conclusions well-reasoned and more.
◦ You are more likely to win negotiations, legal cases and do better with contracts and other legal
matters when you are represented by an attorney that is extremely conscientious compared to one
who is not.
The best attorneys take a great deal of pride in their work, and their conscientiousness is
natural—it is something that is ingrained into them, and they do not need to be taught it.
◦ They enjoy marking up papers and finding errors.
◦ They enjoy tweaking contracts and documenting transactions.
69. The Meaning Of Conscientious—the “C”
In The Disc Profile: Almost All Attorneys
Are Conscientious by Nature
◦ They take pride in researching material and coming up with novel conclusions.
◦ To be a good attorney and suited for the profession of law, this sort of thinking and way of approaching
problems must come naturally to you.
◦ If it does not then you will have a difficult time being a lawyer and need to learn this way of thinking and
approaching problems immediately.
The reason that conscientiousness is so critically important for attorneys is that lawyers
make a living finding errors, researching errors, tricking their opponents into making errors
and attacking the errors of other attorneys.
70. The Meaning Of Conscientious—the “C”
In The Disc Profile: Almost All Attorneys
Are Conscientious by Nature
◦ If an attorney is not conscientious, they will spend their entire career being beaten up by other
attorneys and lose most of the time.
◦ Their clients will get the bad side of deals.
◦ They will be in a position where they are constantly on the defensive and cleaning up mistakes.
◦ They will quite often be sued for malpractice and lose.
◦ The attorney who is the most conscientious is the one who wins most of the time.
The best attorneys are also quite calculating.
Like chess players, they may withhold information selectively, play games with deadlines, insert
provisions into contracts at the last second when the other side is not expecting it, and use the
information to their advantage.
71. The Meaning Of Conscientious—the “C”
In The Disc Profile: Almost All Attorneys
Are Conscientious by Nature
◦ To be a good attorney you need to enjoy and thrive playing these sorts of games—it should come
naturally.
◦ If these sorts of games do not come naturally to you, then there is a good chance you are someone
that is not well suited to be an attorney either.
◦ You need to be able to be as calculating as possible at all points in time.
However, it is important to note that sometimes attorneys are overly calculating.
◦ These sorts of attorneys tend to be very calculating and analyze most situations vis-a-vis whether or
not they are getting the upper hand.
◦ This is not an attractive trait and often demonstrates that an attorney is a narcissist that doesn’t take
pride in their work and is playing the game.
72. The Meaning Of Conscientious—the “C”
In The Disc Profile: Almost All Attorneys
Are Conscientious by Nature
Attorneys who are not overly conscientious or calculating can go into practice settings other
than large law firms.
◦ Teaching law is a setting, for example, where debating ideas is rewarded, and thinking and detail do not
need to be as crisp.
◦ As stated above, the least conscientious attorneys often find themselves working in more consumer-
facing branches of law, or in professions where they can use their legal skills or law degrees but not be
expected to produce flawless work—or particularly enjoy doing so.
It is, as a general rule, the most conscientious attorneys who end up attending the best law
schools.
◦ Attorneys who go to the best law schools do so precisely because they are so conscientious.
73. The Meaning Of Conscientious—the “C”
In The Disc Profile: Almost All Attorneys
Are Conscientious by Nature
Best Practice Settings:
Large, major law firms
Most legal practice settings where work is done at a high level
Places where the attorney has a lot of money and time to do work well
Places where quality is highly valued
Structured legal environments with rules
Judges
74. The Meaning Of Conscientious—the “C”
In The Disc Profile: Almost All Attorneys
Are Conscientious by Nature
Some government offices and environments
Some in-house environments
Legal environments composed of attorneys who went to top law schools
Law firms that do work for large corporations
The most conscientious and lawyer-like attorneys typically end up in the largest law firms or
practicing for the largest clients.
◦ They go where there is money to support their desire to be conscientious.
◦ Most lawyers in major law firms are conscientious.
75. The Meaning Of Conscientious—the “C”
In The Disc Profile: Almost All Attorneys
Are Conscientious by Nature
Worst Practice Settings:
Legal environments without high work quality standards
Legal environments composed of poor attorneys
Most consumer-facing legal environments
Unstructured environments without a lot of rules
Legal environments composed of attorneys who went to poor law schools or did not do well
there
Small law firms in small towns
Consumer-facing law firms
76. The Meaning Of Conscientious—the “C”
In The Disc Profile: Almost All Attorneys
Are Conscientious by Nature
The conscientious attorney wants to be around other attorneys who have high standards for
the sort of work that they do.
◦ All consumer-facing attorneys are not unconscientious; however, they are more likely to be less
conscientious than attorneys from major law firms.
Best Practice Areas:
Any practice area where the attorney can be a perfectionist with their work.
◦ This could be any practice area for the most part.
Any practice area where work is being done for clients that can afford to pay for good work.
77. The Meaning Of Conscientious—the “C”
In The Disc Profile: Almost All Attorneys
Are Conscientious by Nature
Tax
ERISA
Patent
The best attorneys tend to be the most conscientious.
There are conscientious attorneys in every type of practice area, and they tend to be the best ones
practicing in those areas.
78. The Meaning Of Conscientious—the “C”
In The Disc Profile: Almost All Attorneys
Are Conscientious by Nature
Tax
ERISA
Patent
The best attorneys tend to be the most conscientious.
There are conscientious attorneys in every type of practice area, and they tend to be the best ones
practicing in those areas.
79. The Meaning Of Conscientious—the “C”
In The Disc Profile: Almost All Attorneys
Are Conscientious by Nature
Worst Practice Areas:
Any practice area where the attorney is less likely to have the money, or time, to be
conscientious
Criminal Law
Family Law
Consumer bankruptcy
Personal injury
Any practice is that requires the attorney to rush and not do the best work is not a good fit
for the conscientious attorney.
81. Conclusions
It is important to understand exactly the sort of attorney you are and what your personality
style is.
◦ Think of this in terms of how you choose the sort of firm you work in and the practice setting you are in.
◦ Your personality traits will have a major impact on where you belong—and you are likely to know
instinctively where that is before you commit to a practice area, practice setting, or even location for
your practice.