Grow By Learning[4] 2009 May Aug

cwhisna February 13, 2010

GROW BY LEARNING

To Bloggers Everywhere

Charles E. Whisnant, on Grow By Learning Blogger. Posts from
May 2009 thru August 2009.

I hope you will enjoy these articles, and photos.

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Contents
Eric and Leslie's new born and our granddaughter 8
Very Proud of our Granddaughter 8
A GOOD WEEK 9
OKAY WE ARE GRANDPARENTS OKAY 10
Sharing the Gospel and God's Divine Election 10
Sharing the Gospel & God's Divine Election Part Two 11
Wallace York a man to be remembered 12
Sideshow: God, Satan, and Miss USA 13
MY LOVELY SISTER FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS 14
PREACHING AND THE LISTENERS? 17
CHARLES E. WHISANANT CAN BE FOUND ON 17
NOW WHO DO YOU THINK THIS LOVELY LITTLE
GRANDDAUGHTER IS 18
A DAY WITH CHARITY WAS GREAT 19
Pastoral Leadership Paul's Method Part One and Two 20
Why All the Best Preachers Are--What a Concept!--Theological 22
EVOLUTION IS STILL IN THE NEWS IN 2009 23
How To Talk Salvation To Children 24
May I order please.... 24
LeBron's buzzer-beater lifts Cavaliers over Magic 2 24
SPORTS COLLECTIONS AND THE GOSPEL 25
Why Pastor Give Their Charge? 26
Reality of Church Ministry Comes to Life 27
LETING DOWN YOUR SLEEVES IS GREAT 28
UNION MILLS BAKERY MAY 29 29

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Saturday, May 30, 2009 31
LET US AS PREACHERS NOT GET CAUGHT UP IN SELF 31
Some Events for Sunday May 31 31
A JUNE GREETING FROM CHARLES E 32
Why Paul Was Glad the Thessalonians 33
The Harley - Davidson Bike Wedding 33
TRAIN CARS IN FRONT OF HOUSE 33
40th President of the United States 34
D - Day, the reason America IS. 34
Does Your Theology Affect Your Evangelism 35
The Bible Is The Word of God 36
Tuesday, June 09, 2009 36
The Ministry of The Word Of God 36
HOW DO YOU RECONCILE FREE WILL AND ELECTION? 37
The Preachers Message Keeps In View? 37
40th Year Married To Charity 38
40th Wedding Anniversary and 1st Year at ROJBC 38
Charles and Charity Singing for the First Time 40
Great Church Family and Family Cebelation 40
SUNDAY JUNE 14TH 2009 GREAT 41
Any Appearance of Evolution is Wrong. 44
Creation is a Fact Supported by Scripture. 44
Angels Were Created Beings by God 45
So How Do I Come To Believe What I Believe 45
A overview of the week forthwith 45
WHAT IS MEANT BY EXPOSITORY PREACHING 47

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The Suffering For Christ's Righteousness Seen 48
FOR ME DEATH WILL BE OKAY 51
Shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? 51
THE REALITY OF PASTOR/TEACHER IS THIS 53
To Magnify The Lord Jesus Christ 55
Do Trips to Argentina South America 55
Study the Word and Preach the Word 56
His Only Begotton Son Message Plus 57
Reflection Over the Last Year at ROJBC 57
Music in a different style 59
Charles E. Whisnant Message pt 1 from July 5, 2009 59
How Huge Is The Universe Sermon 60
This Is Pretty Cool Party 61
Grtand daughter visits her grandfather 61
Alan Harris Family Connersville, Indiana 62
The Drama Of Coming To Minford 62
Chad R. Whisnant one find young man 63
Family as a teen great 64
Why Another Social Network Service? 64
The Complexity and Diversity of God's Order of Creation 65
THE LORD'S GLORY AND MAN'S DIGNITY 66
11 Things You Might Not Know About Apollo 11 66
So Few Have Died So Hard 66
GOD'S WONDERFUL CREATION OF BIRDS AND FISH 68
CAUTION: ALTAR CALLS ARE NOT IN THE BIBLE. 69
Rivers of Joy Baptist Church 70

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Four Options To The Creation of Universe 72
Paul's Take on Earth living or Heaven 72
Paul Talkes about Living life and Heaven 72
John Piper says we should guard the powerful role of preaching
in w... 73
The Creation of Day Five Continues 73
IS 'DEPRESSION" A BIBLICAL RESPONSE? 74
The Power of God's Strength and Comfort 77
SATAN IS OUT TO SHAKE YOU UP 78
HAPPINESS IN THE SECULAR SENSE IS NOT VERY LONG 79
SHOULD CHRISTIAS BELIEVERS GET CLINICAL
DEPRESSION 81
Time To Relax After Sunday's Services 85
Should Christians Stay In A State of Depression 85
CAN CHRISTIANS BE BIPOLAR? 87
Satan the Devil Sermon and Video 88
People, Science, God and Evolution 89
It's A Devil of a Message 89
IT IS A DEVIL OF A MESSAGE 90
IT IS A DEVIL OF A MESSAGE 90
Johnny Edwards 90
Update: Computer 2009 90
Charles E. Whisnant Teaching On Wednesday Evening 91
Sunday Morning August 16, 2009 91
Remarks About Sunday 92
The Book of Romans Series 93
Charles E. Whisnant, Teaching from Romans 93

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Charles E. Whisnant, Preaching & Teaching 94
Christ Our Hope And Salvation 94
Creation Day Six Outline 95
Ellen and Stephen 95
Charles E. Whisnant 96
So Really What Is Preaching? 96
How Should We Present the Word of God 97
Salvation is Transforming Power of Christ 98
To Go To Heaven You Need To Know 98
Bible Study Handouts Are Good. Why? 99
How Do We Learn The Fear of the Lord 99

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Eric and Leslie's new born and our
granddaughter
Friday, May 01, 2009
Dressing our granddaughter for the first time from charles e. whisnan t on Vimeo.

Amazing Amazing creation of God from charles e. whisnan t on Vimeo.

Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 08:25AM (-05:00)

Very Proud of our Granddaughter
Saturday, May 02, 2009
Eric and Leslie baby was born April 30,
2009 around 5 p.m. and she was 7 lbs 11
oz and 19 in long and of course a very
perfect little girl. As only a grandfather
would say so proudly.

The star of the day
Aunt Becky and grandmother Mom
Chad and Mom and Kyle

Bob, Charles, Chad and Kyle
Heather, Charity and Brittney
Grandfather and our little granddaughter
Happy Grandparents
Happy Happy
Happy Dad
Happy Grandmother Charity
Happy aunt Becky and Mom

Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 07:01AM
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A GOOD WEEK
Monday, May 04, 2009
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OKAY WE ARE GRANDPARENTS OKAY
Wednesday, May 06, 2009
Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 02:01PM
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Sharing the Gospel and God's Divine Election
EVANGELISM AND GOD'S SOVERIGNTY from charles e. whisnan t on Vimeo.

This message is the second lesson on this subject, and the first part of the second
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lesson. (I am in the process making available the first lesson)

TWO VIEWS OF GOD’S WORK IN SALVATION AND MAN’S RESPONSIBILITY

CAUTION: HEAR BOTH VIEWS TO MAKE THE CONNECTION.

The fact remains that God in the gospel really does offer and promise justification and life
to “whosoever will.” Romans 10:13. As God commands all men everywhere to repent, so
God invites all men everywhere to come to Christ and find mercy.

Definition of Evangelism:

1. Is a task appointed to all God’s people everywhere. It is the task of communicating
the message from the God to bring about salvation to mankind.
2. The message begins with information and ends with an invitation. (I am not talking
about a church invitation at th end of the service)
3. The information concerns the work of God of making His Son a just right Saviour
for sinners.
4. The invitation is God’s summons to mankind generally to come to the Saviour and
find life.
God commands all men everywhere to repent, and promises forgiveness and
salvation to all who do. (Acts 17:30)
5. The Christian is sent into the world as Christ’s speak and Christ’s ambassador, to
sent forth this message as far and wide as he can. It’s a duty, it’s a command, it’s a
privilege to tell people about Christ.
HOW IF THE ABOVE IS TRUE, AND IT IS, HOW IS ALL THIS AFFECTED BY OUR
BELIEF IN THE SOVEREIGNTY OF GOD?

Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 01:53PM (-05:00)

Sharing the Gospel & God's Divine Election Part
Two
HOW TO VIEW GOD'S SOVEREIGNITY WITH EVANGELISM from charles e. whisnan t
on Vimeo.

It is true that God has from all eternity chosen whom He will save. It is true that Christ
came specifically to save those whom the Father had given Him. But it is also true that
Christ offers Himself freely to all men as their Savior, and guarantees to bring to glory
everyone who trust in Him as such. Note how He Himself deliberately put side by side
these two thoughts: John 6:37-38.

Christ means who He says, no less when He undertakes to save all who will trust Him
than when He undertakes to save all whom the Father has given Him.

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(4) or does it affect the responsibility of the sinner for his reaction to the gospel.

The fact remains that a man who rejects Christ in that way becomes the cause of his own
condemnation. The Bible never says that sinners miss heaven because they are not
elect, but because they neglect the great salvation and because they will not repent and
believe. Ezk 18:31, John 5:40.

II THE SOVEREIGNTY OF GOD IN GRACE GIVES US OUR ONLY HOPE
OFSUCCESS IN EVANGELISM.

Let me say on the other hand, evangelism would be pointless apart from the Sovereignty
of God. Why? Because of the spiritual inabililty of man in sin Paul put it this way: I
Corinthians 2:14 and Romans 8:7

• 14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are
foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually
discerned. 1 Cor 2:14
7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of
God, neither indeed can be. Romans 8:7

Here is what Paul is saying: Man’s failure, as a matter of fact. It is a necessity of nature,
something certain and inevitable and universal and unalterable, because it is in man to
do otherwise than fail.

1. And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins Eph 2:1
2. Wholly incapacitated for any positive response to God’s word
3. Deaf to God’s speech blind to God’s revelation
4. Not influenced to God’s inducement

Why? Eph 2:2 Satan is active in this matter. 2 Corin 4:4 4 In whom the god of this world
hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of
Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

SO WHAT DOES THIS MEAN FOR REACHING PEOPLE FOR CHRIST?

It means quite simply, that evangelism, described as we have described it, cannot
possibly succeed.

1. Can we by our talking break the power of Satan in man’s life?


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Wallace York a man to be remembered
We learned today that our friend Wallace
York passed away in Princeton, KY. He
was a giant in the ministry.

We first knew Wallace when Charity and
were members of the Ashland Ave. Baptist
Church in Lexington KY. My emotions are
sad at the moment, and will refect later on
Bro. Walllace.

But he had an affect on our family for many
years and we will miss him. Our prayers are with his wife and children.

The photo is at Second Baptist Church in Princeton KY in 2001.

Thanks to Hershael York for keeping us up with his Dad (I am thankful for Facebook).

Sideshow: God, Satan, and Miss USA
Theses two girls didn't win Miss USA, they didn't
pose for girlie sideshow, or magazines, but they
glorifed the Lord in their life. Christians are not to
be in girlie sideshows.

The Girlie Sideshow: God, Satan, and Miss USA
in Sin City

Carrie Prejean, 21, may have lost the Miss USA
crown to Kristen Dalton, but God was guiding her
throughout that fateful girlie show April 19 in Sin
City, when she was put to the question by Perez
Hilton over gay marriage. So said Carrie
yesterday on James Dobson's Focus on the
F a m i l y r a d i o s h o w
( h t t p : / / w w w . f o c u s o n t h e f a m i l y . c o m / ) .
I am sure the Devil is not at all disappointed that Miss Carrie is a "Chrisitan", and that she
is against gay marriage. If a Christian can pose for girlie magazines, and dress as she
does, that is okay christianity to the devil.

"I felt as though Satan was trying to tempt me in asking me this question," said Carrie,
who spoke out against gay marriage. "And then God was in my head and in my heart,
saying, 'Do not compromise this. You need to stand up for me.' And I knew . . . that it
wasn't about winning. It was about being true to my convictions." Now of course when the
statement of Carrie was said, you can be sure the media is going to use it in the negative. 13

Of course they in their natural minds will
have no idea what she was talking about.
Even on Fox Shepherd Smith was clueless.
Miss USA is worldly, and in my opinion is
totally sinful. Well, it appeal to the flesh,
and eyes for sure. For heaven sake's I
remember saying, "I don't think your
daughter should be in the cheerleaders half
time group." I got in a lot of trouble over
that statement. I just do not believe we
should be half dressed in public and dance
like we are come on. Sex sells. The nature
of man like to see women's flesh. Of course
to many this practice is harmless. And I am
sure we can over come our youthful behaviour.

• Satan is not fearful of external conformity to rule. Not even to the external
conformity of the rule of Christ--provided there is no cross.
• Satan does not mind family values--as long as what you ultimately value is the
family.
Russell Moore's excellent talk, "The Devil Votes Christian Values: Why We’re Tempted to
be Glorified Satanists Rather than Crucified Followers.

• Satan does not mind social justice--as long as you see justice as most importantly
social.
• Satan does not tremble at a Christian worldview. He will let you have a Christian
worldview as long as your ultimate goal is viewing the world.
If he can just bypass the cross--and get to the kingdom apart from the cross--then he will
have everything that he wants.
• Pastor: Satan doesn't mind if you preach on the decrees of God with fervor and
passion every single week--provided that you do not ever preach the gospel of the
cross.
• Homeschooling Mom: Satan does not mind if you teach your children all the books
of the Bible and all the Ten Commandments and all of the catechism--provided you
do not teach them the gospel of a bloody cross.. . .
Satan will let you get what it is that you want, no matter what it is--sanctity of marriage,
environmental protection, orphan care, all of these good and wonderful things--he will
allow you to gain those things provided you do not preach and proclaim and live through
the power of a cross that cancels his power of condemnation. He so fears the gospel of a
Christ crucified and raised from the dead that he is willing to surrender his entire empire
just to appease the threat of it. Here Russell Moore tells us The Devil Votes Christian
Values: Why We’re Tempted to be Glorified Satanists Rather than Crucified Followers.
The Devil likes or is willing to go along with Christian values as long as we do not bring in
the Cross and the Resurrection.

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MY LOVELY SISTER FOR A NUMBER OF
YEARS
MY SISTER ELLEN HAS A BIRTHDAY ON
FRIDAY

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PREACHING AND THE LISTENERS?
Thursday, May 14, 2009
• Remember that happy listeners may mean sermon failure. Our goal is not to make
listeners happy with us. Our goal is to faithfully present, explain and apply the Bible
text to their lives. What if the text convicts, or prods, or pokes, or makes downright
uncomfortable? What if it shines a light in a dark place in their life and they don’t like
what they see? What if their dissatisfaction toward you and your preaching is a very
positive sign of the word getting through? Be careful not to misapply this, but
sometimes knowing that listeners were offended by your preaching may be the best
feedback that you are doing your job well. Preaching is not about presenting
yourself for a popularity contest (even if some churches make it feel like that!)


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We upload our Sunday Morning and Sunday Evening Bible
Studies.

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NOW WHO DO YOU THINK THIS LOVELY
LITTLE GRANDDAUGHTER IS

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A DAY WITH CHARITY WAS GREAT
I was at the desk today, and Charity said,
"are you going to move the tables today?"
And without thinking I said, "Yes." What
was I thinking? So within minutes I went
down stairs and begin to take the kitchen
table out and going to replace with the table
in the dinning room. Then Charity wanted to
take the love seat out of the bedroom and
put in the new sitting room, which was the
old dinning room, which was the TV room.
So the work began. What a morning.
Charity said, "I am glad that you listen to
the Pastor's message on Sunday." I had to remember what I had taught. Am I
responsible to listen to what I preach?
Then later we went to Chillicothe for dinner at Red Lobster. Then to J.C. Penny's where I
bought two shirts. Then to Sam's to buy contact lens. A great 80 mile round trip and time
with Charity and back home in three hours.

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Pastoral Leadership Paul's Method Part One and
Two
Pastoral Leadership In Three Phases pt 1 from charles e. whisnan t on Vimeo.

Pastoral Leadership In Three Ways Pt 2 from charles e. whisnan t on Vimeo.

THREE ADVERBS AND THREE ADJECTIVES OF SPIRITUAL LEADERSHIP
I THESSALONIANS 2:11
PASTOR/TEACHER CHARLES E. WHISNANT
MAY 17, 2009

PAUL IS TELLING US IN THIS SECTION THAT WE SHOULD MODEL AND TEACH
AND CHARGE THOSE WHO ARE UNDER OUR SPIRIUTAL LEADERRSHIP

HOW ARE WE ABLE TO LIVE WITH STRENGTH, COURAGE, LITTLE FLINCHING
FROM A MEASURABLE RISK AND THE CHALLENGES WE FACE IN LIFE?

1 Be sure of the presence of the Holy Spirit. Practice the presence of the Spirit
2 Understanding that as a Christian you have a just cause to live as Christ
3 You understand the reality of the unfailing sovereignty of God

THOSE OF US WHO ARE IN SPIRITUAL LEADERSHIP NEED TO BE:

You are witnesses, and so is God, how devoutly and uprightly and blamelessly we
behaved toward you believers; just as you know how we were exhorting and encouraging
and imploring each one of you as a father would his own children, so that you would walk
in a manner worthy of the God who calls you into His own kingdom and glory. (2:10–12

1A MODELING (PATTERN) STEP ONE THE LIFE OF A SPIRITUAL FATHER, LEADER
(Deut 4:9, prov. 13:24, eph 6:4, col. 3:21, Hebrews 12:9

1B HOLY:
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1. My life before God.
2. My duty before God was conformed to God’s character.
3. This is the fabric of the believer’s testimony as God sees it, not man.
4. God’s wants 100% of our lives.
5. No one sees your devotional life except God.

2B JUST: RIGHTEOUSLY.

1. This is the man-directive.
2. This is what you see.
3. This has to do with your integrity.
4. The fabric of your character.
5. Established reputation.
6. A good testimony.
7. People know your number.
8. The testimony in the church not in the world.
9. People trust you.
10. People believe what you say.
11. When you get up and give a testimony, people will listen to what you say.

3B UNBLAMEABLY:

1. Behaving ourselves as Christians justly.
2. We are not like the world models.
3. We don’t embarrass Christ in public
4. We’re a new breed.
5. We’re a different crop
6. We have a new nature
7. We’re indwelt by the Holy Spirit
8. We have a Bible
9. Molds our life. Our attitude
10. Our philosophy of life. Our out-look on life
11. Our attitude toward life
12. If our life is UGLY, people will say “they must have an ugly book.”

2A TEACHING (PRECEPTS) is necessary as a spiritual father, leader.

THREE PHASES OF THE MINISTER’S PREACHING

“just as you know how we were exhorting and encouraging and imploring each one of
you as a father would his own children,” 1 THESSALONIANS 2:11

1B EXHORTING: to encourage, to raise somebody's spirits. –

• from parakaleo, literally “to call alongside; and is related to the noun parakletos,
“one who comes alongside; which is one of the titles for the Holy Spirit.
• Exhortation leads one to do a thing willingly; consolation, to do it joyfully.
"exhorted," the Greek includes the additional idea of comforting and advocating
one's cause: "encouragingly exhorted."
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2B COMFORTED motivating

• Encouraging (paramutheomai), meaning to encourage in the sense of comfort and
consolation, is so critical in assisting toward spiritual growth because of the many
obstacles and failures Christians can experience.
• A friendly persuasion, touching of feeling so leading the heart to Christ and His
truth.
3B CHARGE: imploring

• Imploring is the Greek participle marturomenoi, which is usually translated
“testifying”, or “witnessing”; is related to the word martyr because so many faithful
witnesses died for their boldness.

We are summoned to witness and warn and admonish to the fact that if they did not
follow the course laid out for them, they, as disobedient children would receive from a
father, could expect to receive spiritual discipline from the apostle.


Why All the Best Preachers Are--What a
Concept!--Theological
Tuesday, May 19, 2009
Why All the Best Preachers Are--What a Concept!--Theological:
• "The bones and marrow of the sermon are composed of theology. Yet theological
preaching is rare. Listeners fear that too much theology will make the sermon
impractical. Many preachers shy away from theological content. Aware of the small
window of opportunity given to capture the interest of the audience, preachers are
tempted to rush to application. The result is a sermon that begins with the need of
the audience, touches lightly on the biblical text, and then moves to concrete
implication. In the process, the sermon skips the important step of identifying and
stating theological principles upon which the practical application is based. Haddon
Robinson has wryly observed: 'More heresy is preached in application than in Bible
exegesis.'"
From my personal experience, not many preachers preach theological in my circle of
preachers. So I have changeded my circle of preachers. While I love all my preachers
friends, and they all love the Lord, many of them just like to preach and leave out the
theology. All the preachers I know from this camp, would say they believe they are
preaching the Word of God. They just like to leave out the theological aspect of it in their
preaching. Some started out wanting to preach theological and then got caught up in
wanting to get more people saved and have a bigger church, so they cut out the
theological teaching, and went with the pop - cultural - easy listening - twenty minute
sermon. And they go their bigger church attendance. I am so glad over the last years to
get to know many preachers who are totally committed to preaching from a theological
concept.
• I have often heard people say, "Charles is a teacher, not a preacher."
The truth is all preaching is teaching what one believes about what the Bible is teaching.
1. THE KEY IS LEARNING WHAT THE BIBLE IS TEACHING.
I am in my 45 years of learning what the Bible is saying.
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And almost every day, I am humbled by what I just learned today.

Maybe we should try to preach or teach so it doesn't sound so theological!

Charles Spurgeon once observed

• that the young preacher is primarily concerned with matters of style while those
with more experience tend to focus their attention on content. In effect, the younger
preacher asks, "How shall I say it?" while the older preacher thinks, "What shall I
say?" The theological preacher must ask both questions. It is by giving careful
attention to the theology of the text and the need of the audience that the preacher
learns what must be said about it and how to say it.


EVOLUTION IS STILL IN THE NEWS IN 2009
CREATION IS THE ONLY POSSIBLE WAY THIS EARTH BECAME INTO BEING
Early Skeleton Sheds Light on Evolution
from AOL May 20 2009

ALSO NOTE THIS WEB SITE FOR A biblical POINT OF VIEW

Mayor Michael Bloomberg, among the speakers at the news conference, called it an
"astonishing breakthrough."

The story of the fossil find will be shown on History, which is owned by A&E Television
Networks. A book also will be published.
Hurum saw nothing wrong with the heavy publicity which preceded the research's
publication Tuesday in the scientific journal PLOS (Public Library of Science) One.
"That's part of getting science out to the public, to get attention. I don't think that's so
wrong," Hurum said.

Paleontologists found a rare prehistoric pregnant turtle in a remote area of southern Utah
May 9. The fossil is just the second ever found to still have a clutch of eggs inside. Here,
a technician prepares to run the 75-million-year-old fossil through a scanner.

Because the skeleton is so remarkably complete, scientists believe it will provide a
window into primate evolution. The animal was a juvenile female that scientists believe
died at about 9 or 10 months.
"She tells so many stories. We have just started the research on this fabulous specimen,"
said Jorn Hurum, of the University of Oslo Natural History Museum, one of the scientists
reporting the find. 23

The creature is nicknamed Ida after Hurum's 6-year-old daughter.
The unveiling, at New York's Museum of Natural History, was promoted by a press
release for the cable TV show History, which called it a "revolutionary scientific find that
will change everything." # I AM IN A SERIES ON GENESIS AND EVOLUTION ON
WEDNESDAY NIGHTS.In the last month at Rivers of Joy Baptist Churchspeaking on
Genesis Chapter One and TwoWho Created the Earth

How To Talk Salvation To Children
How Do You Talk To Your Children About Salvation from charles e. whisnan t on Vimeo.

How Should We Talk To Our Children About Salvation Pt 2 from charles e. whisnan t on
Vimeo.

The Outline Forthcoming.

May I order please....


LeBron's buzzer-beater lifts Cavaliers over Magic
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LeBron's buzzer-beater lifts Cavaliers over Magic

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With the Cavaliers' hopes for another trip to
the NBA Finals fading fast, LeBron James
rose up for an absolutely critical 3-pointer
as the final second ticked off the clock
Friday night.

He took the last shot this time. A twisting,
off-balance, miracle shot. A 3-pointer for
the last of his 35 points that he released with less than one second on the clock and
rattled through the rim to give the Cavs a 96-95 victory in Game 2, evening the series at
1-1.

What a game. I get a call from Charity from Union Mills to pick her up, its 10 p.m.
Cavaliers had a 23 point lead, only to lose it.


SPORTS COLLECTIONS AND THE GOSPEL
The view of our houseThe yard that I cut is
all the green.For six years I push a small
mower.But really loved it.

SOMETIMES YOU WONDER WHY
PEOPLE WHOM HEAR YOU PREACH OR
TEACH, SEEM TO JUST BRUSH THE
MESSAGE OFF. WELL THERE IS A
REASON FOR THAT..................

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Now, when we preach the gospel, unless you have spiritual life, you cannot feed
upon it; and if you were to come to the communion table, unless you were truly alive
unto God, you might eat the bread, and drink the wine, but with real spiritual food,
the body of Christ, and the blood of Christ, you could have nothing to do. We do not
give food to people in order to make them live. That would be a useless experiment;
but, because they are alive, they take food in order to sustain and nourish the life
which is already in them. Always recollect, dear friends, that the best spiritual food
in the world is useless to those who are spiritually dead; and one very essential part
of the gospel is that truth which our Savior so plainly taught, "Ye must be born
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again." All attempts at feeding the soul are of no use until the new birth has been
experienced; even that precious, priceless bread of life cannot be assimilated
unless the soul has been quickened by the Spirit of God.

WHILE I DO LIKE MY SPORTS
COLLECTION, ITS JUST A COLLECTION
The Dale Earnhardt Sr. Collection

Jeff Gordon collection pre 2000

The corner of my collection room

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Why Pastor Give Their Charge?
Why Pastor's Give The Charge ? from Charles E. Whisnant on Vimeo.

The Outline of this message will be over on MY CHURCH

THREE REASONS WHY WE AS SPIRITUAL PASTORS/TEACHERS GIVE OUR
CHARGE TO OUR FLOCK
I Thessalonians 2:12
Pastor/Teacher Charles E. Whisnant
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The Mom wants to provide the need of the moment, and the Dad wants to produce the
product at the end. That’s balance. Charity the need, Charles the charge.
• Verse 12 "That you would walk creditably of God, who has called<2564> you unto
His kingdom and glory."

Why Pastor's Give the Charge Pt 2 from Charles E. Whisnant on Vimeo.


Reality of Church Ministry Comes to Life
The reality of church ministry comes to life.

This past Wednesday night in our 6 p.m. membership meeting at Rivers of Joy Baptist
Church was just for that purpose. Getting members to view their thinking about their
ministry in the church. Generally as Pastor/Leader/Elder, I lay out my opinions and idea
and what I think. But what I felt a really neat idea, "What Are You Thinking?" So I started
with Jimmy and Lois and move to Stephanie, then Linda, skip Bill and went to Bob then to
John and Peggy, (well I skippe Peggy) then to Frankie and Danny, and so forth, then
came back to Bill, then to Charity and Dorothy, then to Bill and Mary, etc.

Really its good to listen to what members are thinking about the ministry that they are
involved in. Its good to hear concerns and ideas and thoughts. Too often I believe
members may think they are not heard.
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The meeting was very good and produced some good thoughts.

Then 7 p.m. came, and we were just about half way through the process, and before you
knew it, the time was 8 p.m. So what about my lesson for tonight? I want have to study as
hard the next week. Sometimes its good to listen and not talk. Who said that?

Pastors have this fault of sugar coating problems and concerns. They often speak of the
good points and hid the problems the church has. This is a fault that hurts the progress of
the church.

In order to get ahead of what was before we must deal with the past. We have a future if
we are honest about the events of the past.

Churches that do not deal honestly with themselves and do not stop of correct and
adjust, will fall into the same pattern all over again.

Therefore in this brief post, I am saying, ROJBC and its leadership and members are
making progess in their purpose to make our place a place that will bring honor to the
Lord.


LETING DOWN YOUR SLEEVES IS GREAT
Brief Summary of Sunday's Message from charles e. whisnan t on Vimeo.

The video is from this morning at the
church, (I did not have the lights on)

THE JOY TO BE ABLE TO LET DOWN
YOUR SLEEVES WITHOUT BEING
MISUNDERSTOOD.
TAKING A LOOK INTO THE EMOTIONS
OF PAUL
I THESSALONIANS 2:13-14
Pastor/Teacher Charles E. Whisnant

PAUL seems very much at home when he is writing to the church at Thessalonica. In his
letters to that favored people he unveils his inmost feelings. He is rather apt to do so
when he feels himself quite at ease: for Paul is by no means a man shut up within
himself, who is never at home to any one. When he is in a drawn-out conflict with an
unappreciative people he keeps himself to razor-sharp words and strong arguments; but
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explanation of his heart, and he lays exposed before them his secret emotions. I feel as if
we were interviewing Paul today as if we were all sitting in a room with him, and Silas,
and Timothy, and were hearing their private conversation. We are come to a round-table
conference with them, and we are listening to their talk about the ministry which God had
committed to them.

Even in these two verses we hear of how these holy preachers loved the gospel, told out
the gospel, and saw that gospel take hold of their hearers' hearts.

When you look back over the places of ministry in the pastorate, as my mind brings up
those places of service, it’s with joy that I don’t need to be restrained about my conduct in
those places. In each place the experience with friends still fill my soul with joy. The
experience with the youth, the children, and adults are so good. I love to tell the stories.
To be able to the connections we had with friends in Roanoke, Virginia, Bible Baptist
Seminary in Arlington Texas, Wooster, Ohio, Minford, Ohio, West Portsmouth, Ohio,
Connersville, Indiana, Mansfield, Ohio, Altoona, Kansas, and perhaps in Lexington,
Kentucky.

It is with a joyful enthusiasm to be the pastor of a church where one may be able to
speak with some transparent, as a pastor, to be able from the beginning to open your
heart without fear that you are going to be wounded.. Pastors usually have to be like a
man who wears an armor throughout life, who hardly is able to move his plate of steel,
unless somebody should wound him in an unguarded place.

There is not place better than have a church were you can feel yourself at home as a
brother among brethren, and as safe as a father among his sons and daughters since he
is not afraid of being misunderstood.

To be able to let your sleeves down a while is a joy.

Paul was like that here in our text. He was able to feel at home, he was able to freely
speak with peace, and with pleasure his thoughts about the folks at Thessalonica. He
could from the first day to his last day, just say, “As you know,” and they did know.

AND FOR THIS REASON WE ALSO CONSTANTLY THANK GOD THAT WHEN YOU
RECEIVED FROM US THE WORD OF GOD'S MESSAGE YOU ACCEPTED IT NOT AS
THE WORD OF MEN:
This Sunday at Rivers of Joy Baptist Church, in Minford Ohio the message from I
Thessalonians 2:13

UNION MILLS BAKERY MAY 29
Tammy, & Kindra, & Sonda, & Charity, & Rich, & Debbie, & Mary, & Brenda really worked
hard this weekend, well the last few weeks on high school graduations orders.


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LET US AS PREACHERS NOT GET CAUGHT
UP IN SELF
Sunday, May 31, 2009


Some Events for Sunday May 31
Monday, June 01, 2009

Last Survivor of Titanic Dies in England
Death Comes on 98th Anniversary of Launch of Famous Ship

Great article to read. LONDON (May 31) -- Millvina Dean, who as a baby was wrapped in
a sack and lowered into a lifeboat in the frigid North Atlantic, died Sunday, having been
the last survivor of 1912 sinking of the RMS Titanic.
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She was 97 years old, and she died where she had lived — in Southampton, England,
the city her family had tried to leave behind when it took the ship's ill-fated maiden
voyage, bound for America. Dean mother died at 99 years old always reticent about the
tragedy, died in 1975 at age 95.
Dean just over 2 months old when the Titanic hit an iceberg on the night of April 14,
1912. The ship sank in less than three hours.
Dean was one of 706 people — mostly women and children — who survived. Her father
was among the 1,517 who died.
---OTHER NEWS OF THE DAY & Rivers of Joy Baptist Church, Minford Ohio May 31,
2009
• Our Bible Study time was good: Children's Class with Charity Whisnant,
Youth/Teens with Frankie Dawkins and the Adult class with Charles Whisnant.
• We had a full choir for Sunday, 14 members. Bob Temple lead the choir. Today our
piano player Johnny Edwards and family was on vacation. Frankie Dawkins had our
special song for us.
• Pastor's message (myself) was from 1 Thessalonians 2:13. A fifty five minute
message and was recorded on video. (I will post later this week.)
• Following the service, Bill and Mary, Dorothy, Kindra and Charity and I went to eat.
• About 2 p.m. Charity and her sister and dad went to Lexington Kentucky to visit
with the kids, and to see our grandchild.
• The evening service at ROJBC was good. Bill Bower spoke from Romans 8:28-30.
Followed by a felllowship time. A great time.
• Retured home around 8:30 p.m. and relax for the evening.
• Of course I am up at 2:30 a.m. and this post is around 3:23 a.m.
&

Abortion Doctor Gunned Down in Church

A video also

WICHITA, Kan. (May 31) - Dr. George Tiller, one of the nation's few providers of late-term
abortions despite decades of protests and attacks, was shot and killed Sunday in a
church where he was serving as an usher.
The gunman fled, but a 51-year-old suspect was detained some 170 miles away in
suburban Kansas City three hours after the shooting, Wichita Deputy Police Chief Tom
Stolz said.

Charity and I lived in Altoona, Kansas for over 16 years, (1980-1996) and often went to
Wichita. So we often heard of Tiller and his office. Wichita was about 100 miles from our
house.


A JUNE GREETING FROM CHARLES E

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Why Paul Was Glad the Thessalonians
Wednesday, June 03, 2009
THE REASON TO BE GLAD FOR THE CHURCH Pt 1 from charles e. whisnan t on
Vimeo.

The Reason to be Glad about the Church, Pt 2 from charles e. whisnan t on Vimeo.

Reason To Be Glad For The Church, Pt 3 from charles e. whisnan t on Vimeo.


The Harley - Davidson Bike Wedding
Thursday, June 04, 2009

TRAIN CARS IN FRONT OF HOUSE
Friday, June 05, 2009

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40th President of the United States
Ronald Reagan died June 5 2004

D - Day, the reason America IS.
Saturday, June 06, 2009
Today is the anniversary of the D-Day landings at Normandy during World War II. I have
to wonder how many even care anymore.

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Does Your Theology Affect Your Evangelism
EVANGELISM, PASSION FOR THE LOST,
AND THE ELECT

Some in the Fundamentalist group, (some)
believe if you believe God saves people,
you will not have the desire to preach the
Gospel of Jesus Christ. How silly is that?
Some believe that God's doesn't know who
is going to be saved. How silly is that?
Some believe God knows who is going to
be saved, but He doesn't interfer with what
a man does in the matter of his salvation?
How silly is that?

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• Some believe if you believe God has an elect group of people who are going to be
saved, that leaves out all the other people who would want to be saved? How silly
that that?

A controversialist once said, “If I thought God had a chosen people, I should not preach>"
That is the very reason why I do preach. What would make him inactive is the mainspring
of my earnestness. If the Lord had not a people to be saved, I should have little to cheer
me in the ministry.

• I believe that God will save his own elect, and I also believe that, if I do not preach
the gospel, the blood of men will be laid at my door.

Our Saviour has bidden us to preach the gospel to every creature; he has not said,
“Preach it only to the elect;” and though that might seem to be the most logical thing for
us to do, yet, since he has not been pleased to stamp the elect in their foreheads, or to
put any distinctive mark upon them, it would be an impossible task for us to perform;
whereas, when we preach the gospel to every creature, the gospel makes its own
division, and Christ’s sheep hear his voice, and follow him.

The Bible Is The Word of God
Tuesday, June 09, 2009
THE BIBLE IS THE WORD OF GOD PART ONE from Charles E. Whisnant on Vimeo.

Sunday June 7th 2009 I taught from I Thessalonians 2:13, Paul gives us the reason why
the people in the church made him glad.

Untitled from Charles E. Whisnant on Vimeo.


Tuesday, June 09, 2009


The Ministry of The Word Of God
God's Roll in the Matter of Creaton and Salvation from charles e. whisnan t on Vimeo.

Is God Sovereign in Salvation and Creation from charles e. whisnan t on Vimeo.

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God Sovereign in Salvation and Creation from charles e. whisnan t on Vimeo.

The first part of Wednesday Evening Bible Study at Rivers of Joy Baptist Church June 10,
2009.

You will find this lesson interesting for sure. Is God sovereign over the salvation of
mankind?

Also in this first 22 minutes I talk about Ephesians 4:11-16. The Ministry of the Pastor in
the church.

I am working on the second part of the lesson from Wednesday. Later.


HOW DO YOU RECONCILE FREE WILL AND
ELECTION?
Creation the Second Day Part one from charles e. whisnan t on Vimeo.

In this second part of the lesson on Wednesday, I didn't get into Creation, but was ask
the following question:

IF MAN HAS A FREE WILL, AND HE DOES, HOW DO YOU BRING TOGETHER MAN'S
FREE WILL AND GOD'S SOVEREIGN IN SALVATION?

The first 40 minutes I was talking from my thoughts, and didn't have any notes, because I
didn't think I was going to talk on the subject.


The Preachers Message Keeps In View?
“Many preachers are tempted to identify themselves with the congregation in preaching,
rather than with God. This may be the most significant reason for their feeling ill at ease
in speaking to their congregation in the second person. Such preachers do not want their
people to get the impression that the preacher is holier than them — for preachers know
they are not . . . If a man, even for the most noble of motives, identifies himself primarily
with the congregation in preaching, rather than with God, the best he will be able to do is
speak as one sinner to other sinners about God. He will not be able to speak from God to
them” (Wagner, Tongues Aflame, p. 74).

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40th Year Married To Charity
Bob Temple and Lenora Temple (Charity's
parents) and Pauline Whisnant (Charles's
Mom)
Charles, Charity, Debbie (Charity's sister),
Don (Charles's brother) Lenora, and
Pauline, and Ellen (Charles's Sister)
JUNE 14, 1969 Charity Faye Mucha
(Temple) and Charles Everette Whisnant

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40th Wedding Anniversary and 1st Year at
ROJBC
Sunday, June 14, 2009
Its true, the first time in our 40 years of
marriage, we song together as a special
song. I said I would sang on our Wedding
Anniversary, not realizing the date was on
Sunday. So the people at ROJBC held us
to it. They said we did okay.
THE JOY WE HAVE HAD AT RIVERS OF
JOY BAPTIST CHURCH IN THE LAST
YEARJuly 6 was our first Sunday to preach,
and then July 28 we were voted as pastor

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• The joy that Charity and I have had since coming to ROJBC is amazing. We have
never in our entire ministry been so well loved in our first year. You wonderful
people have treated us so kindly here at ROJBC. From the very start, we have just
felt the joy of preaching and teaching, and the fellowship with all of you. You have
shown calmly your willingness to listen and take in what I have presented. You have
been encouraging to both Charity and me. In the face of difficulties, ROJBC is going
to be okay, the Lord’s willing. Thank you for allowing us to be your pastor/teacher.
40TH WEDDING ANNIVERARY JUNE 14 2009 and our 1st Year as Pastor/Teacher at
Rivers of Joy Baptist Church in Minford Ohio. Those attending in the 10 a.m. 11 a.m. and
1:30 p.m. services.
In the 10 and 11 a.m. service
• Bill and Linda Aldridge
Dorothy Fields
Bill and Janet Ramey and two kids
Frankie and Danny Dawkins and baby
Stephanie Oppy and three kids
Ellen Copper and kid
Jim and Lois Grant
Serena Grant
Sam Adams
Leona Auther
Johnny & Phyllis Edwards
• Charles & Charity Whisnant
Bill & Mary Bower
John & Peggy Hall
Bob Temple
Pauline Lesmaster
Richard Lemaster
Kindra Tumbleson
Amber Tumbleson and Gavin
R.W.Wilson
Roby Temple
Rob & Ily Temple
Eric & Leslie Whisnant & Abby
Becky Whisnant
Kyle & Brittney Whisnant
Chad & Heather Whisnant
Charlie and Peggy Newman (49)
Afternoon extra
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• Mary Thacker
Ray & Sharon McCoy
Rick Warner
Charlie Bond
Tammy Logan
Debbie Blevins (56)


Charles and Charity Singing for the First Time
Sunday, June 14, 2009
Charles and Charity Singing at ROJBC from Charles E. Whisnant on Vimeo.


Great Church Family and Family Cebelation
While our first Sunday preaching at Rivers
of Joy Baptist Church was July 6, 2008 we
used this day as our first year Anniversary.
Also June 14th was our 40th Wedding
Anniversary,
Chad Whisnant was enjoying the day.
Of course we loved our granddaugher
Eric Leslie and Abby

Kyle, Charity, Becky, Chad and Charles

I posted a series of photos over on
http://cwhisna1947.spaces.live.com/

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SUNDAY JUNE 14TH 2009 GREAT
The Believers Believed the Saints from charles e. whisnan t on Vimeo.

One of my shortest sermons in history. The singing took the wind out of me, I guess. I
believe the message stopped at 23 minutes. But that is okay. I had more to say on the
subject but next time I will finish the message.

1A THE RECEPTION THAT THE CHURCH MADE OF THE WORD OF GOD

2A THEY HAD A LOVE FOR THE LORD JESUS CHRIST AND THE SAINTS

HOW DOES THE WORD OF GOD (ITS PRINCIPLES) WORK IN US WITH POWER IN
THE BELIEVER

SAVED US 1 PETER 1:23, James 1:18

BLESSES US Luke 11:28

TEACHES US 2 Tim 3:16

REPROVES US 2 Tim 3:16

CORRECTS US 2 Tim 3:16 41

TRAINS US IN RIGHTESOUSNESS

PERFECTS US & EQUIPS US Eph. 4:12

GUIDES US Psa. 119:105

COUNSELS US Psa. 119:24

REVIVES US Psa. 119:154

MAKES US FRUITFUL Col 1:6

GROWS US UP 1 Peter 2:2

WARNS US Psa. 19:11

REWARDS US Psa. 19:11

JUDGES US Heb. 4:12

SANCTIFIES US John 17:17

PURGES US John 15:3

FREES US John 8:31-32

ENRICHES US Col. 3:16

STRENGTHENS US Psa. 119:128

MAKES US WISE Psa. 119:97-100

PROSPERS US Psa. 1:3

GIVES US HOPE Psa. 119:147

PAUL WAS GLAD BECAUSE FIRST: THEIR RECEPTION OF THE WORD OF GOD
INTO THEIR LIVES 1 THESS 2:13

PAUL WAS GLAD BECAUSE SECONDLY: THEY HONORED THE SAINTS: 1 THESS
2:14

“For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judea are in Christ
Jesus: for you also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, even as they have
of the Jews.:”

followers -- Greek, "imitators." Divine working is most of all seen and felt in affliction.

in Judea -- The churches of Judea were naturally the patterns to other churches, as
having been the first founded, and that on the very scene of Christ's own ministry.
Reference to them is specially appropriate here, as the Thessalonians, with Paul and
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Silas, had experienced from Jews in their city persecutions Act 17:5-9 similar to those
which "the churches in Judea" experienced from Jews in that country.

in Christ Jesus -- not merely "in God"; for the synagogues of the Jews (one of which the
Thessalonians were familiar with, Acts 17:1 were also in God. But the Christian churches
alone were not only in God, as the Jews in contrast to the Thessalonian idolaters were,
but also in Christ, which the Jews were not.

of your own countrymen -- including primarily the Jews settled at Thessalonica, from
whom the persecution originated, and also the Gentiles there, instigated by the Jews;
thus, "fellow countrymen" (the Greek term, according to Herodian, implies, not the
enduring relation of fellow citizenship, but sameness of country for the time being),
including naturalized Jews and native Thessalonians, stand in contrast to the pure "Jews"
in Judea Matt 10:36. It is an undesigned coincidence, that Paul at this time was suffering
persecutions of the Jews at Corinth, whence he writes Acts 18:5,6,12; naturally his letter
would the more vividly dwell on Jewish bitterness against Christians.

even as they --Heb 10:32-34. There was a likeness in respect to the nation from which
both suffered, namely, Jews, and those their own countrymen; in the cause for which,
and in the evils which, they suffered, and also in the steadfast manner in which they
suffered them. Such sameness of fruits, afflictions, and experimental characteristics of
believers, in all places and at all times, is a subsidiary evidence of the truth of the Gospel.

—Jamieson-Fausset-Brown Bible Commentary

They were "imitators”. “followers”.Vs 14

Ø Paul mentioned other believers in other churches as to what they were doing. You
could pattern your life after them. They honored the saints by patterning their lives after
them. They copied the Saints. They tried to be like those in those churches.

Ø THE MARK OF REGENERATION?

o They had a longing in their heart to be like Christ, to be like the preacher who gave
them the gospel, a longing to be like other maturing saints.

o

Of the churches of god which in Judea are in Christ Jesus.” Vs 14

Ø Local assemblies. Acts 20:28, I Corin 1:2, 10:32, 11:22, Gal. 1:13.

Ø A general term for church. Eph 1:22-23. A church “in Christ Jesus.”

Ø In Judea, Jerusalem, the birth place of the NT church. 7 years before.

o Their spiritual address: IN JESUS CHRIST.

o Their physical address: IN JUDEA.

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Any Appearance of Evolution is Wrong.
I am teaching a series of lessons from Genesis, dealing with Creation verse Evolution. I
will post the first part of the message later tonight. Maybe. I have worked on this project
all day, off and on. Now I am upload the first part on to Vimeo.com.

I stand on this position about Creation:

• Now from that foundation that we have laid in our teaching over the last several
weeks, we must bring to a close that any appearance of evolution is a contradiction
and a rejection of the apparent revelation of Scripture, and I mean any
outline...whether it comes from an atheistic evolutionist like Julian Huxley, or
whether it comes from a theistic evolutionist like Hugh Ross, any appearance of
evolution is a contradiction and rejection of the comprehensible revelation of
Scripture which indicates that somewhere around 6000 years ago God created the
entire universe as we know it in six 24-hour days.


Creation is a Fact Supported by Scripture.
What Have Learned About Creation So Far from charles e. whisnan t on Vimeo.

I STAND BY THESE STATEMENTS AS I HAVE STUDIED THE TEXT IN GENESIS 1:1-
13.
1. God created out of nothiung, without any preexisting material, the heaven and the
earth.
2. This creation happened in a period of one week of normal days about 6000 years.
3. The entire creation was mature and aged at the instant of its creation.
4. Death did not exist, nor did any corrupt influences, and the creation was good.
5. Death and corruption entered the creations for the first time at the Fall of Adam.
6. Prior to the time Adam and Eve sinned in disobedience of God there was no death.
7. Science is not a principle for interpreting Genesis or any other passage for that
matter.
8. There's only one source of the account of origins and that is the Bible, the Word of
God.
9. It's hard for people to get a handle on this because science has reigned supreme on
the throne of contemporary thinking.
10. Evolution has been a given. In fact it's become an absolute in our society.
11. It is a false theory that the sediments that have been building up along the layers of
the Grand Canyon to say the earth is a billion of years old.
12. The occurrence of meteors in sedimentary rock failed to turn up one single case of a
meteorite being found anywhere in any geologic column.
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Angels Were Created Beings by God
Why Do I Believe Angels Were Created On Day One from Charles E. Whisnant on
Vimeo.

I always believed that Angels were created by God. What I was not sure of was when? I
believed God before the creation of earth, God had created angels. For some reason I
believed this could have been thousands of years before He created the earth.

Well in this lesson I address this issue. So listen to the video and see what you think
about this matter of angels.


So How Do I Come To Believe What I Believe
In this short video, the end of the lesson on Wednesday Evening, I address the question,
"So How Do I Understand Scripture?"

We all have opinions about what we think the Bible is teaching about Creation. I will
address this point in another post.

But the question was put to me, So what makes you believe what you say about Creation
is correct? Which is really a good question and really made me think.

My other blog: For Me To Live Is Christ note this issue. http://ccwhisnant.livejournal.com/

Closing Remarks of Day 3 part 3 from Charles E. Whisnant on Vimeo.


A overview of the week forthwith
The week always begins with Sunday. And this past Sunday was so good for Charity and
I. Our 40th wedding anniversary was on the 14th. So we thought Sunday would be a
great day to have a celebration. Since we have had 40 years of church ministry together,
why not have a celebration at church.

Having having our sons and daughter up was so good. We had a great time. The only
stress I had was the preaching, and the special song that Charity and I sung. Its on video
on one of my websites. Several people who love us, said we did well for the first time
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together.

The afternoon service was also good. Bill
Bower MC the service, and Bob Temple
spoke, and then Johnny Edwards gave us a
mini concert of songs. We were happy to
see so many guest for the day. While
attendance is great to have, (its good to
have people come) we had fifty six for the
day.

On Monday Charity and I had a nice date.
That was very nice.One Tuesday thru
Saturday, Charity was working at Union
Mills.

One Tuesday, Wednesday and Friday, I
was at Mex Itali for a few hours. I clean off
the tables, made the best cream butter
anywhere, twice this week, I also have a
great time talking to many of my good
friends. Ira Fowler is one of my best at work
friends who comes in to eat everyday. I
really work there to see my good friends. I
enjoy working at Mex Itali, and thankful for
the time I work. While that is true, I am looking forward
to leaving in October, at the latest.

I took off Thursday to take a day off just to hang out at
house and do a little work. That was really fun.

On Wednesday we had a great service at Rivers of
Joy Baptist Church, I had a lesson on Creation. And in
the course of the lesson there were a few questions
as to my knowledge of the subject. And the question
was ask, "HOW DO YOU KNOW IF YOU ARE
RIGHT?" (Click) So I posted a brief thought on that
idea. More to come on that idea later.I video Sunday
Morning service, and Wednesday Evening lessons. I
download from the Kodak onto Kodak
Easyshare softwear, this process takes a
while. Then go over to Vimeo.com and they
download from Kodak. This process takes
for ever it seems. About three hours per 20
minutes of lesson. Thus Sunday Morning
which was the shortest message in my
history was just one video. Wednesday
Night which is normal was 55 minutes and
it took three video.

I have posted on Grow By Learning this
week as well. Also over on Live Journal "For Me To Live Is Christ, website.
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Had several visits with Bob Temple this
week. And old, we had a drop in supper at
Kindra's home, and with Amber, and Bob.
That was fun, Charity just said, let's eat at
Kindra's home.
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WHAT IS MEANT BY EXPOSITORY
PREACHING
What Is Expository Purpose Preaching from Charles E. Whisnant on Vimeo.

A FOOTNOTE ON THIS IDEA OF PREACHING:

Some people here at ROJBC are new to preaching. Some simply stop by to see what’s
going on. Some have little or no experience with what we mean by preaching. I think it
will help you listen to this message (and others) if I say a word about preaching.

What we mean by preaching is expository joy.

Preaching As Expository Delight

Expository means that preaching aims to exposit, or explain and apply, the meaning of
the Bible. Every sermon explains and applies the Bible. The reason for this is that the
Bible is God’s word, inspired, infallible, profitable—all sixty-six books of it. The preacher’s
job is to minimize his own opinions and deliver the truth of God. Therefore, it is mainly
Bible exposition—explanation and application.

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And the preacher’s job is to do that in a way that enables us to see that the points he is
making actually come from the Bible. If they come from the Bible and you can’t see that
they come from the Bible, your faith will rest on man and not God.

The aim of this exposition is to help you eat and digest some biblical truth that will make
your spiritual bones more like steel, and double the capacity of your spiritual lungs, and
make the eyes of your heart to be amaze with brilliance with God’s greatness, and
awaken the capability of your soul to experience the kinds of spiritual enjoyment you
didn’t even know existed.
Preaching is also delight—expository delight. This means that the preacher does not just
explain what’s in the Bible, and the people do not simply understand what he explains,
but the preacher and the people rejoice over what is in the Bible as it is being explained
and applied.

Preaching As Worship

Preaching does not come after worship in the order of the service. Preaching is worship.
My job is not done if I only see truth and show it to you. The devil could do that—for his
own devious reasons. My job is to see the glory of the truth and to savor it and triumph
over it as I explain it to you and apply it for you. That’s one of the differences between a
lecture and a sermon.

Preaching is not the totality of the church. And if all you have is preaching, you don’t have
the church. A church is a body of people who minister to each other. Part of what
preaching does is equip us for that. God has created the church, so that the church
flourishes through preaching. That’s why Paul gave young pastor Timothy one of the
most serious, exalted charges in all the Bible in 2 Timothy 4:1-2: “I charge you in the
presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who is to judge the living and the dead, and by his
appearing and his kingdom: preach the word.”

If you are used to a twenty-minute, immediately practical, relaxed talk, the understanding
of preaching that I just described doesn’t lead there. I won’t preach twenty minutes but
twice that long; I do not aim to be immediately practical but eternally helpful; and the
condition of my soul is not relaxed but standing vigilantly on the precipice of eternity
speaking to people any of whom this week could go over the edge.


The Suffering For Christ's Righteousness Seen
They Suffered for Christ from Charles E. Whisnant on Vimeo.

NOW THE OUTLINE OF TODAY’S MESSAGE
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1A THEY BELIEVED THE RIGHT THINGS: THEY RECEIVED THE WORD OF GOD AS
THE WORD OF GOD AND NOT AS WORDS OF MEN

2A THEY HONORED THE SAINTS BY FOLLOWING THEM

3A THEY PERSEVERED IN SUFFERING AND STOOD AGAINST THE OPPOSITION.

They kept their faith in the teaching of paul, and protected themselves from anything that
would cause them to lose their faith or cause them to fall out of use for the lord Jesus
Christ

14 “For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judaea are in
Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, even as they
have of the Jews:”

in Judea -- The churches of Judea were naturally the patterns to other churches, as
having been the first founded, and that on the very scene of Christ's own ministry.
Reference to them is specially appropriate here, as the Thessalonians, with Paul and
Silas, had experienced from Jews in their city persecutions (Acts 17:5-9) similar to those
which "the churches in Judea" experienced from Jews in that country.

in Christ Jesus -- not merely "in God"; for the synagogues of the Jews (one of which the
Thessalonians were familiar with, Acts 17:1 were also in God. But the Christian churches
alone were not only in God, as the Jews in contrast to the Thessalonian idolaters were,
but also in Christ, which the Jews were not.
—
of your own countrymen -- including primarily the Jews settled at Thessalonica, from
whom the persecution originated, and also the Gentiles there, instigated by the Jews;
thus, "fellow countrymen" (the Greek term, according to Herodian, implies, not the
enduring relation of fellow citizenship, but sameness of country for the time being),
including naturalized Jews and native Thessalonians, stand in contrast to the pure "Jews"
in Judea (Matthew 10:36). It is an undesigned coincidence, that Paul at this time was
suffering persecutions of the Jews at Corinth, whence he writes (Acts 18:5,6,12);
naturally his letter would the more vividly dwell on Jewish bitterness against Christians.

even as they -- (Hebrews 10:32-36). There was a likeness in respect to the nation from
which both suffered, namely, Jews, and those their own countrymen; in the cause for
which, and in the evils which, they suffered, and also in the steadfast manner in which
they suffered them. Such sameness of fruits, afflictions, and experimental characteristics
of believers, in all places and at all times, is a subsidiary evidence of the truth of the
Gospel.

This church followed the Preachers, they followed the Word and then they followed the
church at Jerusalem. They patterned their lives after the Church. I patterned this church
after the “Shepherd’s Conference, Grace Community Church, Sun Valley California.

The pattern of suffering, and persecution.

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A great persecution arose against the church which was at Jerusalem; Persecution
Strikes the ChurchActs 5:16 — 8:3
And they were all scattered throughout Judea and Samaria, except the apostles (Acts
8:1).

The time of “favor with all the people” Acts 2:24 is over. Acts traces the Satanic attack on
the church in Jerusalem as the Jewish authorities that killed the Lord Jesus turn against
His people (3:1-6:7).

The irresistible force of the church will not be stopped as the church continues to multiply
disciples—

We read of the church expanding beyond the city of Jerusalem to Judea and Samaria,
just as the Lord Jesus had said in Acts 1:8.

The church at Jerusalem set the pattern how to deal with persecution. And the church at
Thessalonica followed their pattern. They were experiencing the same kind of suffering
from their own countrymen. Acts 17:4-9

SUFFERING IN CHRIST, FOR YOUR STAND FOR CHRIST IN RIGHTEOUSNESS IS
THE TRUE TEST OF DISCIPLESHIP.

Spirituality is an absolute
Maturity is a process.

Handling suffering. This book was written to suffering Christians.

The soul permeated with a devotion of truth will stand the fiery test of life.

Our love for the Gospel is tested by what we suffer for it.

You go along with the soft pace, along the stream of the world, do as others do…sit down
and take your ease…you will not suffer.
But you take up the cause of Christ, act for Christ, you will meet with spite as men and
the devil can possibly throw at you.

Note some verses on Suffering in Righteousness of Christ

• Jeremiah 2:11
Matthew 5:10-12
John 15:18-20
Acts 14:21-22
Romans 8:35-39
2 Corinthians 4:8-11

2 Corinthians 12:10
2 Timothy 3:12
1 Peter 4:12-14,16
1 Peter 5:10

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What kind of suffering in the United States, in Ohio, in Scioto County would you say
we would encounter in our righteousness for Jesus Christ?

I really do not believe in Scioto County, that any pain is inflicted upon those who live
a righteous life. Physical or psychological pain or distress often occur in our lives.
Yet there are all kinds of trials, difficulty that will occur in the life of everyone.

This church was the kind of people to be happy for:

1. They received the Word as God’s.
2. They followed the pattern of the saints in Jerusalem.
3. They stood firm in Christian fortitude in suffering.

Rivers of Joy Baptist Church, Minford Ohio.

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FOR ME DEATH WILL BE OKAY
To Live For Christ, Death is Gain from charles e. whisnan t on Vimeo.

What We Shall Experience in Heaven from charles e. whisnan t on Vimeo.

Audience Analysis
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From Philippians 1:21 we speak about the benefits of the saints who die and go to
Heaven.


Shall gain the whole world, and lose his own
soul?
I just posted yesterday the message I preached Sunday Evening from Philippians 1:21.
To Die Is Gain, If I have Lived for Christ Today. These who have died with the world
mourning for their lost, died in vain most likely.
Actress and model Farrah Fawcett lost her long battle with cancer today dying at the age
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62, June 25, 2009.Her family, friends, and fans
hoped and prayed that she would somehow
recover from her life threatening illness but
unfortuately that was not the case. She will
always be remembered for her sexy role as
"Jill Munroe" (pictured left) on the hit 70's TV
show "Charlie's Angels," as well as for the
movies she starred in like "The Burning Bed"
and "The Poor Little Rich Girl."'''==

What can I say, Farrah was born February
1947, I will be 62 in October. I liked her hair, I
guess. Of course I liked Lee Major's whom she
was married to for several years.

But as to all of us, we have been given life on earth for a period of time, than we die.
What we do with our life on earth will be to the glory of self, and those whom they want to
please. Sometimes there are those who get caught up in TV, etc. and are forced it seems
to do what is expected of them. There life is not there life but that of what they have made
it to become.

It seems most of the time, they are not really happy, but are forced it seems to do what
they really would not do.

Often what we see on TV or the screen is not really what people really are. The media
will try to kill about every one that is in public.

I really do not know a lot about Farrah. After Charlie Angels' I didn't follow her. Only in the
last year when she was sick and death was near did the attention get on Farrah. And the
fact that she was dying and a Roman Catholic. Of course now, she will be said to have
gone to Heaven...

Well, I am not the judge. Do I wish she she is? Yes? But.......

This pass week we know of three famous people who have died. They had the world at
their hands. They lost their soul in doing what they believed the world would like.

"For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?Or
what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?Whosoever therefore shall be ashamed of
me and of my words in this adulterous and sinful generation; of him also shall the Son of
man be ashamed, when he cometh in the glory of his Father with the holy angels." (Mark
8:34-38) . While I hate to put these two people in the same post, I don't want to post
about MJ anyway. But I do believe some things need to be said anyway. . FOOTNOTE
ON THE OTHER PERSON WHO DIED JUST JUST HOURS AFTER Farrah, whom I had
no desire to know or listen to, but who had a soul and that is lost forever: He wrote. He is
dead at the age of 50. He had everything the world offered--but no Jesus. . The liner
notes from an album of his, and he quoted the final lines from William Ernest Henley's
famous poem, Invictus:
I am the master of my fate:I am the captain of my soul.. Those are not the words you
want written on your tombstone. --------------------------------------- When tens of millions
know your name And honors swarm about your head And fortunes rest on your great
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fame And then you die. Well, you are dead. When you've been great beyond degree And
slept with fame and danced with pride And you've become an industry And then you die
Well, then, you've died. Your fame and wealth won't buy a place In God's eternal realm of
light. No, that's found only by his grace, And you chose self Worm, fire and night. by Jim
Swindle . ANOTHER COMMENT MADE IN THE DEATH OF mj
• From here we create our own standards of what we think a good person ought to
be, but even by our own standards we fail to measure up. Only by deceiving
ourselves are we able maintain any level of respectability and righteousness. Often
during these pursuits, we find ourselves engaging in all kinds of aberrant behavior
simply trying to measure up to our own standards. In it, we are clinging to our own
righteousness in order to appease the God we know is there. For many, even in
their suppression of the truth, will create a God to their liking and will try to appease
him (Rom 1:23), but the God of scripture tells us that all our righteousness is like
filthy rags, and he wants nothing to do it them (Isa. 64:6). But, praise God, He then
goes on to tell us of the remedy that he has offered in Christ Jesus for all of us have
sinned and fallen short of the Glory of God (Rom. 3:23) . You see, God the Father
sent his son to die upon the cross to bear the punishment for all who will believe in
Him (John 3:16) in order to bring us into a right relationship with Him and give us the
peace we are seeking.
. To paraphrase John Donne, when we hear that someone has died and we wonder for
whom the bell tolls, there is a sense in which it will always be tolling for us. It is a constant
reminder of our own frailty, telling us to be cognizant of our own end, and to ponder what
awaits us afterward, and whether or not we are living life the way it should be lived; to the
glory of God (Psalm 39:4). God Bless, Doug Eaton

THE REALITY OF PASTOR/TEACHER IS THIS
What a good day on Sunday. Most
preachers it seems that I have known over
the years, and have worked with (and there
have been a few, believe me) don't seem to
see the reality of the church as it really is.

"Let's give the impression that the church is
really great, and there are no problems." I
would hear a pastor say, "Let's put a spin
on the problem and make it seem a bit
better than what it really is."

Just before the pastor would leave the church, resign, go to another church, quit, for
various other reasons, the church body would believe every thing was alright in the
father's house.

It's amazing how many pastors are out interviewing for another church, without the
knowledge of anyone in the church. "Everything is just great, except I am leaving the
moment I can get another church."

It's amazing how many church elders are looking for pastors of churches, while the
preacher is wishing to get another church to pastor. But if you ask the pastor, everything 53

is okay in their present church.

How many churches have I attended, and
was available to pastor the church, but the
church pastor search committee was not
interested. They were interested in
someone who was already pastoring a
church that they were not happy in. On
several occasions the preacher that came
to the church was not going to stay in the
church for long. Think of that. A touch of
sarcasm there.

How many times have I heard from members in a church, "I wish the pastor would just
leave." While at the same time, the pastor has no clue that is thought by any member.
Why? Because those same members would deny that they said that at all.

Some pastors seem to be clueless to the situation in their church, and find themselves in
trouble because they are not in touch with their membership.

So how do you know if you should stay as pastor of the church you are in? Try to stay
honest in your mind as to the reality of what is going on in the church.

July 2008 I was asked by Bob Temple to come to speak with him at Rivers of Joy Baptist
Church. This was only to help the members out in their time of need. I went with fear and
trembling.

While I was so excited about preaching and teaching, and so overwhelmed, the reality
was, I believed there was no way this was going to work out. After all, I knew I was just
about the opposite in style from the former preachers. Well not really all that different, but
I had come to approach ministry and preaching a little different. Our doctrine was about
the same, and our love for the Word was the same.

So Bob said I should preach in the morning and he would preach in the evening. So for
three weeks that is what we did. Then on the last Saturday of July the deacon called me
to come to the church for a meeting with him. We had a good meeting and we expressed
our concerns and beliefs and the situation at the church, (which was not good at all). He
asked and I agreed to become pastor of the church, if the members wanted me also.

So that Sunday evening, the church voted either to call a pastor or to shut the door, as
the deacon said. The membership said yes to me coming as pastor. The doors to the
building stayed open.

Now fast forward to July 2009 (almost) and I can say that I have really loved the
experience of the last year. The joy of preaching and teaching over the last year has filled
my soul and heart and mind so much that you can't imagine.

The experience that Charity and I have had has just overwhelmed us with great joy, and
humility. I am humbled at the love the folks have given us.

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I had just about given up on ever pastoring another church, I was sixty you know. But I
was thinking I was a very young minded sixty. So I just settled in and was sad.

The church that I had attended for almost four years just didn't seem to find a place for us
to really serve. And so we finally gave up and left, sadly I might say.

We started attending another church in town, and it was as if they didn't know we were
even there either. I was getting this idea that we weren't really liked.

But God, in His time, must have felt sorry for us, kidding. When I believed the door was
completely closed, He by His grace, opened up a place for us to love people, be loved by
the people, and have a chance to preach and teach and pastor again.

For the first time in our ministry, we have worked in a church from day one to now, and
have enjoyed every Sunday. It's a miracle. Maybe sixty is the age, I don't know, but
Charity and I have loved this ministry so much.

I hope this is the real reality of what is really true. I hope the people at Rivers of Joy really
love us as much as we really love the work and ministry and people at ROJBC.

To Magnify The Lord Jesus Christ
Wednesday, July 01, 2009
To Magnify the Name of Christ from Charles E. Whisnant on Vimeo.

To Magnify The Lord in our Living Part Two from Charles E. Whisnant on Vimeo.

The outline of this message is on MyChurch

Philippians 1:20=21


Do Trips to Argentina South America
Thursday, July 02, 2009
TODAY’S NEWS FOUND IN PROVERBS SIX-EIGHT
DO NOT PLAN TRIPS TO Argentina

Charles E. Whisnant
Rivers of Joy Baptist Church June 28 2009
Sunday Bible Study Lesson

TO GAIN THE WHOLE WORLD LOVE AND TO LOST YOUR OWN SOUL

My favorite after sermon comment is the young guy who came up to me three times and
said 'That's the worst sermon I ever heard.' Eventually, one of the elders realized he was
bothering me but hadn't heard the young man; so the elder put his hand on my shoulder 55

and said 'don't worry about him. He's a bit simple and
has a tendency to repeat what he hears others
saying...'

Do not lust in your heart after her beauty or let her
captivate you with her eyes, for the prostitute reduces
you to a loaf of bread, and the adulteress preys upon
your very life. Can a man scoop fire into his lap without
his clothes being burned? Can a man walk on hot
coals without his feet being scorched? So is he who
sleeps with another man’s wife; no one who touches
her will go unpunished. (Proverbs 6:25-29) Or Provers
8:1-6

1. We Christian men need to be diligent with guarding
our hearts

2. Ladies, do not underestimate the power of sex in marriage and how important it is to
your husband.

3. Realize our sinful actions also impact others.

4. Marvel at how sin can make the most sober-minded, intelligent person to act stupidly.

It ought to serve as a sobering reminder of our own depravity.

Here are some lessons that I'm pondering today in the wake of this news:

1. We must acknowledge that our biggest problem is not "out there." It is "in here."

2. We must measure ourselves against the right standard.

3. We must guard ourselves in our friendships--and especially in our counselees.

4. We must seek accountability.

5. We must be sobered by how our sin affects others.

6. We must repent of putting our hope in people.

7. We must look away to Christ.


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