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Interpreting New Zealand


Chinese Language Workshop

 29 September to 27 October 2011
           Wellington

Daniel Cheng and Sanying Huang
Main goals of workshop
• To be more alert and sensitive to the
  common mistakes of interpreting English
  into Chinese
• To develop practical ways to avoid those
  mistakes
• To be more aware of those key linguistic
  differences between Chinese and English
  that underlie the common problems
  encountered in interpreting
Main sources of examples
•   陆谷孙 : 英汉大词典
•   司显柱等 : 英汉互译教程
•   王述文 : 综合英汉翻译教程
•   熊文华 : 英汉翻译教程 --- 理论与实践
•   陈定安 : 英汉比较与翻译
•   思果 : 翻译研究 , 翻译新究 , 功夫在诗
    外
English influence on
Chinese translation
This is not even a translation

• “ 我第二次到仙岩的时候,我惊诧于梅雨
  潭的绿了” --- 朱自清: < 温州的踪迹 >
• When I visited Xian-yan the second time,
  I was surprised by the greenness of Mei
  Yu Tan
Let’s work through
 some examples
Example 1

• His excellent work indicates he has good
  potential.
• 他所做的优异工作显示他有很好的潜质
• 他工作成绩优异,足见他的潜质不错
Example 2

• He is more skilful in reading than in
  writing
• 他在读时比写时更有技巧
• 他读比写强
Example 3

• It is a fact that he lives here
• 他住在这里是一个事实
• 他的确住在此地
Example 4
• My Dear Sir: I thank you for sending
  me a copy of your address delivered at
  the Atlanta Exposition.
• 我的亲爱的先生:我谢谢您寄给我一份
  您在亚特兰大展览会发表的演词
• xxx 先生大鉴:承寄先生在亚特兰大展
  览会发表之演讲词,幸甚。
• I thank you with much enthusiasm for
  making the address. I have read it with
  intense interest,
• 我用很多热忱谢谢您作这次演讲。我以
  强烈的兴趣读它,
• 先生此次俯允演讲,意极可感。鄙人拜
  读之余,至为关注。
• and I think the Exposition would be
  fully justified if it did not do more than
  furnish the opportunity for its delivery.
• 并且我想这展览会如果除了供应一个机
  会让它发表以外,并没有做别的事,也
  充分有价值了。
• 窃以为该展览即使别无所成,仅得先生
  莅临,发表演讲,亦不虚此举矣。
• Your words cannot fail to delight and
  encourage all who wish well for your
  race;
• 您的话不能不使所有希望你们种族兴盛
  的人欣喜和鼓励他们;
• 凡期望贵种族兴盛之人,聆先生言论,
  当无不欣慰振奋;
• and if our coloured fellow-citizens do
  not from your utterances gather new
  hope and form new determinations to
  gain every valuable advantage offered
  them by their citizenship, it will be
  strange indeed.
• 倘使我们有色的同胞不从您的言论获得
  新希望, 形成新决心以取得他们公民
  身份给他们的每一个有价值的利益,那
  就真正 奇怪了。
• and if our coloured fellow-citizens do
  not from your utterances gather new
  hope and form new determinations to
  gain every valuable advantage offered
  them by their citizenship, it will be
  strange indeed.
• 而黑种同胞闻先生之言,而不获新希望
  并下新决心,以求沾公民身份之种种权
  利者, 亦未之有也。
• Yours very truly
  Grover Cleveland.
• 你的很忠实的
  格罗佛尔 克利福兰。
• 专此敬请
  台安。
  格罗佛尔 克利福兰启。
Common mistakes
The 4 common mistakes
Affecting individual expressions
• One-one correspondence 一成不变
• Trapped by words 词枷字锁
Affecting sentence structure
• Copy-cat 模仿套用
• Too many words 繁冗累赘
One-one correspondence 一成不变
• Taking each English word to have only
  one meaning in Chinese
• Prospect of machine translation?
• Nearly all common English words have
  multiple equivalents in Chinese,
  depending on the exact context
• Let’s work through some examples
One-one correspondence 一成不变
      Example 1: “to accept”

• 我很感激地收下你的礼物
• 政府承认这整个事件是一桩不幸的意外
• 我们从来不相信合成橡胶比天然橡胶好
One-one correspondence 一成不变
  Example 1: “to accept” (cont’d)


•   他们赞成这个想法
•   国会采纳了委员会的报告
•   他担任了司库的职位
•   他们学会了忍受恶劣的生活条件
One-one correspondence 一成不变
       Example 2: “story”

• 我的孩子们爱听有关他们幼年生活的讲
  述
• 尽管即将处决,他仍不改变他的供词
• 小说的情节
One-one correspondence 一成不变
     Example 2: “story” (cont’d)

•   知情人供出了全部真情
•   他给报社发了一篇紧急报导
•   这一事件将成为报纸报导的好题材
•   弥天大谎。我只字不信
Trapped by words 词枷字锁
• “Many an interpreter knows his
  languages inside and out, misses
  nothing, makes no serious mistakes,
  and yet does not quite succeed in
  interpreting altogether satisfactorily.
  The main problem is too much of an
  obsession with words and not enough
  attention to sense”
     --- Sergio Viaggio, UN Chief Interpreter
Let’s work through
 some examples
Trapped by words 词枷字锁
             Examples
• Common salt
  食盐
• I wasn’t born yesterday
  我不是三岁的孩子
• It is a long story
  说来话长
• I know what I am doing
  我有数
Trapped by words 词枷字锁
            Examples (cont’d)
• He is a failure
  他一事无成
• Thanks to him, I got that job
  多亏了他,我得到那个工作
• Almost certainly
  谅必
Trapped by words 词枷字锁
        Examples (cont’d)
• Until absolutely necessary
  非到万不得已
• The situation is beyond remedy
  大势已去
• Successful marriage
  美满姻缘
Trapped by words 词枷字锁
        Examples (cont’d)
• To buy on credit
  赊
• To fulfill one’s ambition
  如愿以偿
• She protected her husband from
  interruption
  她不让别人打扰她丈夫
Copy-cat 模仿套用
• Applying the linguistic rules of English to
  Chinese
• Or imitating the English way of
  expressing ideas
• As a result the Chinese sounds unnatural
  or even foreign
• Let’s work through some examples
Copy-cat 模仿套用
             Examples

• It is evident that he lied
  显然的,他说谎
• Let’s go
  我们走吧
• Only a fool will under-estimate you
  谁要看轻你就蠢了
Copy-cat 模仿套用
         Examples (cont’d)
• He has enormous energy
  他精力旺盛
• It is too good to be true
  好的过了份,恐怕靠不住
• To acknowledge the importance and
  urgency of the problem
  承认问题严重,也很迫切
Copy-cat 模仿套用
           Examples (cont’d)
• After making a week-long observation,
  people have acquired some initial
  understanding of the new organization. If we
  undertake a comparison with similar
  organizations in other countries, we should
  have even a better understanding.
• 大家把这个新机构研究了一个星期,
  已略知梗概。 如果再拿它和外国的相
  类机构比较一下,相信还要多明白些。
Too many words 繁冗累赘
• Usually the result of ‘trapped by words’
  and ‘copy cat’
• Problem often solved by using
  idiomatic Chinese expressions and
  restructuring the sentence
• Let’s work through some examples
Too many words 繁冗累赘
            Examples

• I asked him to explain
  我要他解释
• Did enormous damage to the enemy
  重创敌人
• Young and inexperienced
  少不更事
Too many words 繁冗累赘
         Examples (cont’d)

• A bond between friends
  友谊
• Bloody conflict between the two
  armies
  两军血战
• I received a medical examination
  我检查了身体
Too many words 繁冗累赘
          Examples (cont’d)
• He carried out a 3-day investigation
  他调查了三天
• People were unable to get a better life
  人民生活无法改善
• Engaged in a 5-year struggle
  奋斗了五年
• Entered a state of sleep
  睡着了
An interlude: make this your target

• Avoid these 4 common mistakes
• Aim to produce a rendition that is not
  just readily comprehensible and
  accurate
• Make sure that it also sounds natural
  and easy, and not in anyway contrived
2 quotations
• “Bad Chinese cannot be accurate
  interpreting unless the original
  message is in bad English”
          -- Z. T. Cai
• “Lightness in the rendition of thought
  always presumes the weight of
  immense knowledge, as well as
  inexhaustible energy to process and
  develop it further.”
          --- Irena Stone
Getting better 1:
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Chinese language slides

  • 1. Interpreting New Zealand Chinese Language Workshop 29 September to 27 October 2011 Wellington Daniel Cheng and Sanying Huang
  • 2. Main goals of workshop • To be more alert and sensitive to the common mistakes of interpreting English into Chinese • To develop practical ways to avoid those mistakes • To be more aware of those key linguistic differences between Chinese and English that underlie the common problems encountered in interpreting
  • 3. Main sources of examples • 陆谷孙 : 英汉大词典 • 司显柱等 : 英汉互译教程 • 王述文 : 综合英汉翻译教程 • 熊文华 : 英汉翻译教程 --- 理论与实践 • 陈定安 : 英汉比较与翻译 • 思果 : 翻译研究 , 翻译新究 , 功夫在诗 外
  • 5. This is not even a translation • “ 我第二次到仙岩的时候,我惊诧于梅雨 潭的绿了” --- 朱自清: < 温州的踪迹 > • When I visited Xian-yan the second time, I was surprised by the greenness of Mei Yu Tan
  • 6. Let’s work through some examples
  • 7. Example 1 • His excellent work indicates he has good potential. • 他所做的优异工作显示他有很好的潜质 • 他工作成绩优异,足见他的潜质不错
  • 8. Example 2 • He is more skilful in reading than in writing • 他在读时比写时更有技巧 • 他读比写强
  • 9. Example 3 • It is a fact that he lives here • 他住在这里是一个事实 • 他的确住在此地
  • 10. Example 4 • My Dear Sir: I thank you for sending me a copy of your address delivered at the Atlanta Exposition. • 我的亲爱的先生:我谢谢您寄给我一份 您在亚特兰大展览会发表的演词 • xxx 先生大鉴:承寄先生在亚特兰大展 览会发表之演讲词,幸甚。
  • 11. • I thank you with much enthusiasm for making the address. I have read it with intense interest, • 我用很多热忱谢谢您作这次演讲。我以 强烈的兴趣读它, • 先生此次俯允演讲,意极可感。鄙人拜 读之余,至为关注。
  • 12. • and I think the Exposition would be fully justified if it did not do more than furnish the opportunity for its delivery. • 并且我想这展览会如果除了供应一个机 会让它发表以外,并没有做别的事,也 充分有价值了。 • 窃以为该展览即使别无所成,仅得先生 莅临,发表演讲,亦不虚此举矣。
  • 13. • Your words cannot fail to delight and encourage all who wish well for your race; • 您的话不能不使所有希望你们种族兴盛 的人欣喜和鼓励他们; • 凡期望贵种族兴盛之人,聆先生言论, 当无不欣慰振奋;
  • 14. • and if our coloured fellow-citizens do not from your utterances gather new hope and form new determinations to gain every valuable advantage offered them by their citizenship, it will be strange indeed. • 倘使我们有色的同胞不从您的言论获得 新希望, 形成新决心以取得他们公民 身份给他们的每一个有价值的利益,那 就真正 奇怪了。
  • 15. • and if our coloured fellow-citizens do not from your utterances gather new hope and form new determinations to gain every valuable advantage offered them by their citizenship, it will be strange indeed. • 而黑种同胞闻先生之言,而不获新希望 并下新决心,以求沾公民身份之种种权 利者, 亦未之有也。
  • 16. • Yours very truly Grover Cleveland. • 你的很忠实的 格罗佛尔 克利福兰。 • 专此敬请 台安。 格罗佛尔 克利福兰启。
  • 18. The 4 common mistakes Affecting individual expressions • One-one correspondence 一成不变 • Trapped by words 词枷字锁 Affecting sentence structure • Copy-cat 模仿套用 • Too many words 繁冗累赘
  • 19. One-one correspondence 一成不变 • Taking each English word to have only one meaning in Chinese • Prospect of machine translation? • Nearly all common English words have multiple equivalents in Chinese, depending on the exact context • Let’s work through some examples
  • 20. One-one correspondence 一成不变 Example 1: “to accept” • 我很感激地收下你的礼物 • 政府承认这整个事件是一桩不幸的意外 • 我们从来不相信合成橡胶比天然橡胶好
  • 21. One-one correspondence 一成不变 Example 1: “to accept” (cont’d) • 他们赞成这个想法 • 国会采纳了委员会的报告 • 他担任了司库的职位 • 他们学会了忍受恶劣的生活条件
  • 22. One-one correspondence 一成不变 Example 2: “story” • 我的孩子们爱听有关他们幼年生活的讲 述 • 尽管即将处决,他仍不改变他的供词 • 小说的情节
  • 23. One-one correspondence 一成不变 Example 2: “story” (cont’d) • 知情人供出了全部真情 • 他给报社发了一篇紧急报导 • 这一事件将成为报纸报导的好题材 • 弥天大谎。我只字不信
  • 24. Trapped by words 词枷字锁 • “Many an interpreter knows his languages inside and out, misses nothing, makes no serious mistakes, and yet does not quite succeed in interpreting altogether satisfactorily. The main problem is too much of an obsession with words and not enough attention to sense” --- Sergio Viaggio, UN Chief Interpreter
  • 25. Let’s work through some examples
  • 26. Trapped by words 词枷字锁 Examples • Common salt 食盐 • I wasn’t born yesterday 我不是三岁的孩子 • It is a long story 说来话长 • I know what I am doing 我有数
  • 27. Trapped by words 词枷字锁 Examples (cont’d) • He is a failure 他一事无成 • Thanks to him, I got that job 多亏了他,我得到那个工作 • Almost certainly 谅必
  • 28. Trapped by words 词枷字锁 Examples (cont’d) • Until absolutely necessary 非到万不得已 • The situation is beyond remedy 大势已去 • Successful marriage 美满姻缘
  • 29. Trapped by words 词枷字锁 Examples (cont’d) • To buy on credit 赊 • To fulfill one’s ambition 如愿以偿 • She protected her husband from interruption 她不让别人打扰她丈夫
  • 30. Copy-cat 模仿套用 • Applying the linguistic rules of English to Chinese • Or imitating the English way of expressing ideas • As a result the Chinese sounds unnatural or even foreign • Let’s work through some examples
  • 31. Copy-cat 模仿套用 Examples • It is evident that he lied 显然的,他说谎 • Let’s go 我们走吧 • Only a fool will under-estimate you 谁要看轻你就蠢了
  • 32. Copy-cat 模仿套用 Examples (cont’d) • He has enormous energy 他精力旺盛 • It is too good to be true 好的过了份,恐怕靠不住 • To acknowledge the importance and urgency of the problem 承认问题严重,也很迫切
  • 33. Copy-cat 模仿套用 Examples (cont’d) • After making a week-long observation, people have acquired some initial understanding of the new organization. If we undertake a comparison with similar organizations in other countries, we should have even a better understanding. • 大家把这个新机构研究了一个星期, 已略知梗概。 如果再拿它和外国的相 类机构比较一下,相信还要多明白些。
  • 34. Too many words 繁冗累赘 • Usually the result of ‘trapped by words’ and ‘copy cat’ • Problem often solved by using idiomatic Chinese expressions and restructuring the sentence • Let’s work through some examples
  • 35. Too many words 繁冗累赘 Examples • I asked him to explain 我要他解释 • Did enormous damage to the enemy 重创敌人 • Young and inexperienced 少不更事
  • 36. Too many words 繁冗累赘 Examples (cont’d) • A bond between friends 友谊 • Bloody conflict between the two armies 两军血战 • I received a medical examination 我检查了身体
  • 37. Too many words 繁冗累赘 Examples (cont’d) • He carried out a 3-day investigation 他调查了三天 • People were unable to get a better life 人民生活无法改善 • Engaged in a 5-year struggle 奋斗了五年 • Entered a state of sleep 睡着了
  • 38. An interlude: make this your target • Avoid these 4 common mistakes • Aim to produce a rendition that is not just readily comprehensible and accurate • Make sure that it also sounds natural and easy, and not in anyway contrived
  • 39. 2 quotations • “Bad Chinese cannot be accurate interpreting unless the original message is in bad English” -- Z. T. Cai • “Lightness in the rendition of thought always presumes the weight of immense knowledge, as well as inexhaustible energy to process and develop it further.” --- Irena Stone
  • 40. Getting better 1: Cast your net widely