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Tamar Dagan & Arnon Rolnick
EABCT Congress, 2015, Jerusalem
How do clinicians choose between
or combine
several evidence-based approaches
when treating MUS
(Medically Unexplained Symptoms)
What will this lecture include?
1. Theoretical comparison between 4 treatment
methods: CBT, EMDR, Biofeedback & Hypnosis
2. Presenting some pathways for clinicians to choose
between or combine the methods when treating
MUS, thru 3 case studies.
Dagan & Rolnick, EABCT Congress, 2015, JerusalemDagan & Rolnick, EABCT Congress, 2015, Jerusalem
Initial guidelines
1. Modern patients come with a self diagnosis, and/or request
for a specific treatment method – the patient fantasy
2. Fits my narrative education: The patient is the best expert for
both his problems and his problem’s solutions
3. Sometime the method they request, does not fit their
current resources, or the apparent origin of their symptoms.
4. Being familiar with several methods, enables a flexibility
to choose or to combine between them
Dagan & Rolnick, EABCT Congress, 2015, Jerusalem
Comparison between CBT, EMDR
Biofeedback & Hypnosis -1
Dagan & Rolnick, EABCT Congress, 2015, Jerusalem
HypnosisBiofeedbackEMDRCBT
Unconscious
resources
Stress
management
PTSDDepression
Originally
developed
Unconscious
conflicts or
negative self
hypnosis
Over activity of
sympathetic
system
Incomplete
brain process
of experience
The meaning
a person gave
to experience
Origin of
symptoms
Access
unconscious
recourses
Practicing
regulation
methods
Unpack the
neurological
linkages
Unpack the
cognitive
triangle
Main
Method
goal
Comparison between CBT, EMDR
Biofeedback & Hypnosis -2
Dagan & Rolnick, EABCT Congress, 2015, Jerusalem
HypnosisBiofeedbackEMDRCBT
Focus is
directed to the
relevant
channel
Focus on the
body, as
influenced by the
others
Focus on all
channels
simultaneously
- Behavior
- cognition
- feelings
- body
Original
focal
channel
The amazing
influence of
thoughts on
the body
-Sympathetic-
parasympathetic
systems.
FFF system
-Right- left
hemisphere.
-Amygdala-
Hypothalamus.
-FFF system
-Cognitive
triangle.
-Blocking
beliefs
Main
psycho
education
Imagination
Computer
software &
sensors
Bilateral
stimulus
Talking
Method
main tool
Comparison between CBT, EMDR,
Biofeedback & Hypnosis - 3
Dagan & Rolnick, EABCT Congress, 2015, Jerusalem
HypnosisBiofeedbackEMDRCBT
Past, present,
future
Relaxation at
arousing
situations
Past, present,
future
Past, present,
future
Generalizing
Main
component of
the protocol
Lately added
Main
component of
the protocol
One of the
modules
Mindfulness
Main
component of
the protocol
Mutual un-
judicial observing
the graphs
Main
component of
the protocol
Lately added
(ACT)
Acceptance
Comparison between CBT, EMDR,
Biofeedback & Hypnosis - 4
Dagan & Rolnick, EABCT Congress, 2015, Jerusalem
HypnosisBiofeedbackEMDRCBT
Some beautiful
suggestions
-The treatment
prime purpose. -
“Sandwich”
-Preparing
for trauma
reprocessing
-“Sandwich””
One of the
modules
Resource
enhancement
Self Hypnosis
Regulating
methods
NoneExposuresHomework
Subjective
Used several
times each
session
-Objective.
-Mutual
observations
Subjective.
- Used every
few minutes
Subjective-
Used only at
regulating
sessions
Monitoring
Comparing the four approaches find
more resemblance than distinguishing
• All are evidence based for pains, headaches & IBS (high correlation with PTSD)
• All defined as a short term therapy, usually 10-15 appointments, but can be shorter
or longer
• All speaks in four languages: cognitive, physical, emotional & behavioral
• All have elements of: monitoring, exposure to memories, emotions & behaviors,
psycho-education, resource strengthening, generalization. It is just the emphasis
that is different.
• The only unique elements are: brain processing (EMDR), home work (all except
EMDR), use of equipment (EMDR & Biofeedback) & objective monitoring
(biofeedback).
Dagan & Rolnick, EABCT Congress, 2015, Jerusalem
Pure EMDR
Known traumatic events
or improving achievements
Starting CBT Modules, followed by EMDR
Not pre-known Traumatic events, but
exposed through the CBT treatment
Starting EMDR, followed by CBT modules
Pre-known traumatic events that became
complicated with blocked beliefs,
problematic relations, avoidance, OCD, etc
Adding BF to this
sequence
When anxiety is added to
the other symptoms
Adding BF to this
sequence
When anxiety is added
to the other symptoms
Adding BF to this
sequence
When anxiety is added
to the other symptoms
Dagan & Rolnick, EABCT Congress, 2015, Jerusalem
Treatment pathways
BF + Hypnosis
Stress and pain reduction &
resource enhancement
Actually no method is pure
• Hypnosis is an excellent state of mind for doing EMDR or Biofeedback
• EMDR is actually working on the cognitive main goal: to unpack the
cognitive triangle, but uses the bilateral stimuli for reprocessing
• EMDR use short cognitive interweaves, and Hypnosis use long
cognitive suggestions, to fasten and deepen the biological and
emotional change
• Biofeedback uses behaviors and cognitions for challenging the
sympathetic system
• EMDR direct work with for pain is actually Hypnosis assisted by BLS
Dagan & Rolnick, EABCT Congress, 2015, Jerusalem
MUS is not purely psychological caused
nor purely biological caused
but a combined mind – body symptom.
Sometime only YET unexplained
My third client wrote to me yesterday night:
“I think there is a strong tie between body and mind. I
think that for long time I held myself from lots of concerns.
My back condition was bad, developing for years. From the
moment I decided to let go, to give myself, probably the
weak vertebra had collapsed.
Dagan & Rolnick, EABCT Congress, 2015, Jerusalem

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Treating MUS: Choosing and Combining Evidence-Based Approaches

  • 1. Tamar Dagan & Arnon Rolnick EABCT Congress, 2015, Jerusalem How do clinicians choose between or combine several evidence-based approaches when treating MUS (Medically Unexplained Symptoms)
  • 2. What will this lecture include? 1. Theoretical comparison between 4 treatment methods: CBT, EMDR, Biofeedback & Hypnosis 2. Presenting some pathways for clinicians to choose between or combine the methods when treating MUS, thru 3 case studies. Dagan & Rolnick, EABCT Congress, 2015, JerusalemDagan & Rolnick, EABCT Congress, 2015, Jerusalem
  • 3. Initial guidelines 1. Modern patients come with a self diagnosis, and/or request for a specific treatment method – the patient fantasy 2. Fits my narrative education: The patient is the best expert for both his problems and his problem’s solutions 3. Sometime the method they request, does not fit their current resources, or the apparent origin of their symptoms. 4. Being familiar with several methods, enables a flexibility to choose or to combine between them Dagan & Rolnick, EABCT Congress, 2015, Jerusalem
  • 4. Comparison between CBT, EMDR Biofeedback & Hypnosis -1 Dagan & Rolnick, EABCT Congress, 2015, Jerusalem HypnosisBiofeedbackEMDRCBT Unconscious resources Stress management PTSDDepression Originally developed Unconscious conflicts or negative self hypnosis Over activity of sympathetic system Incomplete brain process of experience The meaning a person gave to experience Origin of symptoms Access unconscious recourses Practicing regulation methods Unpack the neurological linkages Unpack the cognitive triangle Main Method goal
  • 5. Comparison between CBT, EMDR Biofeedback & Hypnosis -2 Dagan & Rolnick, EABCT Congress, 2015, Jerusalem HypnosisBiofeedbackEMDRCBT Focus is directed to the relevant channel Focus on the body, as influenced by the others Focus on all channels simultaneously - Behavior - cognition - feelings - body Original focal channel The amazing influence of thoughts on the body -Sympathetic- parasympathetic systems. FFF system -Right- left hemisphere. -Amygdala- Hypothalamus. -FFF system -Cognitive triangle. -Blocking beliefs Main psycho education Imagination Computer software & sensors Bilateral stimulus Talking Method main tool
  • 6. Comparison between CBT, EMDR, Biofeedback & Hypnosis - 3 Dagan & Rolnick, EABCT Congress, 2015, Jerusalem HypnosisBiofeedbackEMDRCBT Past, present, future Relaxation at arousing situations Past, present, future Past, present, future Generalizing Main component of the protocol Lately added Main component of the protocol One of the modules Mindfulness Main component of the protocol Mutual un- judicial observing the graphs Main component of the protocol Lately added (ACT) Acceptance
  • 7. Comparison between CBT, EMDR, Biofeedback & Hypnosis - 4 Dagan & Rolnick, EABCT Congress, 2015, Jerusalem HypnosisBiofeedbackEMDRCBT Some beautiful suggestions -The treatment prime purpose. - “Sandwich” -Preparing for trauma reprocessing -“Sandwich”” One of the modules Resource enhancement Self Hypnosis Regulating methods NoneExposuresHomework Subjective Used several times each session -Objective. -Mutual observations Subjective. - Used every few minutes Subjective- Used only at regulating sessions Monitoring
  • 8. Comparing the four approaches find more resemblance than distinguishing • All are evidence based for pains, headaches & IBS (high correlation with PTSD) • All defined as a short term therapy, usually 10-15 appointments, but can be shorter or longer • All speaks in four languages: cognitive, physical, emotional & behavioral • All have elements of: monitoring, exposure to memories, emotions & behaviors, psycho-education, resource strengthening, generalization. It is just the emphasis that is different. • The only unique elements are: brain processing (EMDR), home work (all except EMDR), use of equipment (EMDR & Biofeedback) & objective monitoring (biofeedback). Dagan & Rolnick, EABCT Congress, 2015, Jerusalem
  • 9. Pure EMDR Known traumatic events or improving achievements Starting CBT Modules, followed by EMDR Not pre-known Traumatic events, but exposed through the CBT treatment Starting EMDR, followed by CBT modules Pre-known traumatic events that became complicated with blocked beliefs, problematic relations, avoidance, OCD, etc Adding BF to this sequence When anxiety is added to the other symptoms Adding BF to this sequence When anxiety is added to the other symptoms Adding BF to this sequence When anxiety is added to the other symptoms Dagan & Rolnick, EABCT Congress, 2015, Jerusalem Treatment pathways BF + Hypnosis Stress and pain reduction & resource enhancement
  • 10. Actually no method is pure • Hypnosis is an excellent state of mind for doing EMDR or Biofeedback • EMDR is actually working on the cognitive main goal: to unpack the cognitive triangle, but uses the bilateral stimuli for reprocessing • EMDR use short cognitive interweaves, and Hypnosis use long cognitive suggestions, to fasten and deepen the biological and emotional change • Biofeedback uses behaviors and cognitions for challenging the sympathetic system • EMDR direct work with for pain is actually Hypnosis assisted by BLS Dagan & Rolnick, EABCT Congress, 2015, Jerusalem
  • 11. MUS is not purely psychological caused nor purely biological caused but a combined mind – body symptom. Sometime only YET unexplained My third client wrote to me yesterday night: “I think there is a strong tie between body and mind. I think that for long time I held myself from lots of concerns. My back condition was bad, developing for years. From the moment I decided to let go, to give myself, probably the weak vertebra had collapsed. Dagan & Rolnick, EABCT Congress, 2015, Jerusalem