2.  This power point aims to train you about bug boxes
and selecting the right products for a bug box
 It does not aim to train you about the products within
the bug box – please take Bayers training to learn more
regarding this
 Please ensure you view this as a slide show to ensure all
links work

3. What is a Bug Box?

4. What is a Bug Box?
 YourVets Bug Box is a discounted way of buying all
your parasite needs for 6 months
 It works as a bulk deal – if you buy in bulk (minimum
6 months supply) then you receive a discount
 These products are then packaged in a lovely YourVets
branded box – the BUG BOX

5. Why?
 Traditionally most pet
owners only buy the
smaller amounts of flea /
worm treatments (as they
cost the least)
 They believe they will
come back in as they run
out to get more
 However when they run
out they tend to forget to
come in.............
 They then only remember
when they notice their pet
has fleas!

6. As then you don’t have to treat the house, deal with the
rash etc etc
And that’s just for the fleas........

7. Other Issues
•Fleas are just one of many possible
parasites
•Advocate also prevents Lungworm
a potentially deadly worm – we want
to prevent this as sometimes waiting
until the pet has this can be too late
•Toxocara is a type of worm which
can infect people (especially
children) – waiting until they have a
problem is too late as it can cause
blindness in children
•Sarcoptes is a mite that causes
intense itching. This is very
distressing for the pet and the owner

8. We recommend monthly roundworm and ectoparasite
(flea / mite) treatment all year round.

9. Why?
 A Bug Box offers clients bulk saving
 They save up to 10% on the normal prices (which are
affordable even before this discount!)
 They are convenient
 Once they have a Bug Box they wont have to come back
for quite a long time
 They can be confident their pet is covered.
 We will make sure they have no risk of common
parasites if they take our recommendations in a Bug
Box.
 Many other “complete” wormers will not cover
everything

10. What are the “Rules”? They must take a minimum
of 6 months supply of
advocate
 They must take a minimum
of one worming Drontal or
Profender (or for small dogs
only one Milbemax)
 They can take any other
Bayer parasite products on
top of that at the discounted
price
 There is no maximum
amount!!!

11. Advantix
Seresto Collars
Advocate
Drontal
Profender

12. Bayer Products
 Bayer are our preferred antiparasite supplier (as we
believe their range provides the best control)
 Our good relationship with them enable us to give this
discount on their products
 We are not able to do so with other companies – hence
the Bug Box is only for Bayer products (except tiny
dogs who have Milbemax puppy / small dog)

14. •We aim to give personal
recommendations so we can
give the right products for each
pets lifestyle
•Therefore we need to ask a few
questions before we can select
the best products

15. Is he / she indoor or outdoor?
Does he / she hunt?
Is he / she inquisitive /
getting his nose in to
everything? (slug / snail risk)
Do they tend to
mix with other
pets / walked
where other pets
go?
Do you live close to a farm?
Has he / she ever had a
tick?
Do you holiday in high tick
risk areas (new forest etc)
Are there
many stray
cats in your
area?
Do you have many
slugs / snails in
your garden?

16. Flea Risk
 All pets are quite high risk for fleas
 Things which make higher risk include
 Multi animal household (especially cats as tend to
wander and pick up fleas)
 Large amounts of cats in neighbourhood (especially
strays) – don't need to be friendly just sharing same
roaming areas
 Large amount of foxes
 Warm moist summers and mild winters increase flea
numbers

17. Worm Risk
 Things that increase the risk for worms are
 Some are spread by fleas – so things which increase risk
of fleas
 Being near farms (especially if able to freely access as
may scavenge)
 HUNTING – especially in cats
 Access to slugs and snails (lungworm risk)
 Most common in young inquisitive animals – rarely see eating
one but often do as they sniff and explore every bush etc
 Toys left outside as they tend to get on them

18. Tick Risk
 Ticks are more likely if
 Live near a farm (livestock tend to spread)
 Live in certain parts of the country
 New forest
 Lake district
 Also increased risk near other areas of high density
vegetation
 Parks
 Forests
 Near wildlife – hedgehogs, badgers, foxes

19. Travelling Pets
 Should seek Vet advise
 Generally increased risk of
 Ticks (foreign ticks can carry much more dangerous
diseases)
 Worms (are more dangerous worms on the continent)
 Sand fly (different parasite which can be controlled by
advantix)

20. Decide What they Need?
 EVERY PET WILL NEED BASIC WORM AND FLEA
CONTROL
 High risk pets may need extra worm control
 i.e. Avidly hunting cats may need monthly tapeworm
control
 If at risk of ticks will need tick control
 May just be seasonal need(holiday in high risk area but
rest of year fine)

21. What is “Basic” level?
 Basic control is
 Monthly advocate – provides flea and roundworm
(including lungworm) control
 Tapeworm control
 Dogs – one tablet every 6 months
 Cats – one tablet / profender every 3 months (if fully
indoor then one every 6 months but ensure “garden” not
considered indoor!!)

22. Extra Worm Control
 Can give tapeworm control as often as once a month
 For cats who hunt then MONTHLY worming should
be recommended.
 If owner thinks very occasional hunter then every 2-3
months likely sufficient (ask how often
 If dogs are regularly flea treated then they are unlikely
to ever need additional tapeworm treatment as
Advocate covers roundworms and the tapeworm they
get tends to come from fleas.

24. Bob
 3 year old JRT
 6kg
 Only pet in house
 Urban life style – no
known access to wildlife
 Very inquisitive – gets
nose into everything

25. Bob
 What products would you recommend for Bob?
 Advocate medium dog 6 pack, Drontal dog one dose
 Advocate medium dog 3 pack, Drontal dog one dose
 Advocate medium dog 6 pack, Drontal dog 6 doses
 Advocate medium dog 6 pack, Drontal dog one dose
and seresto collar

26.  While this is suitable for this dog as only 3
advocates are being given out it is not a bug box
and hence not eligible for the discount. If the
client wants the discount they would need to buy a
6 pack or 2 x 3 packs. If however they did not want
this then we can happily give them this
combination just they would have to pay normal
price.
 Click here to go back

27.  The 6 pack of advocate is correct
 While the inquisitive nature of this young dog
means you have correctly identified he is higher
risk for worms, the increased risk is for
roundworms (specifically lungworm) which the
advocate covers. Drontal is used alongside
advocate as a tapewormer – this dog is not at
increased risk of tapeworms hence 1 drontal dose
would be enough.
 Click here to go back

28.  This combination is a good mix and would control
every possible parasite.
 The history given did not show this dog as a high
tick risk so he may not have needed the Seresto
collar, however it would not be a wrong thing to
talk about it to the owner to see if it is something
they would like.
 Click here for next case

29.  This is probably the ideal answer as it covers the parasites
the dog is most at risk of.
 There is no cover for ticks in this combination but this dog
is low risk for ticks, however it might be worth mentioning
this to the owner
“from what you have told me it sounds like he is very low risk for ticks so
there is probably no need for that, however if you holiday in a tick area or
he mixes with local wildlife let us know and we can get you something to
cover for them”

30. Meg and Mog
 2 DSH 3 year old cats.
 Meg weighs 3.7kg, Mog
weighs 4.3kg
 Meg is a big hunter, Mog
much prefers home.
 Their owner wants to
treat for fleas and worms
(she doesn't feel ticks are
an issue to them) but is a
bit short of cash

31. Meg and Mog
 Which option do you think would be best for them?
 Advocate large cat 6 pack and 2 Drontal tablets (one
each – normal for Meg, xl for Mog).
 Advocate large cat 3 pack and small cat 3 pack, 4 drontal
tablets (3 normal for Meg and 1 xl for Mog)
 Advocate large cat 6 pack and small cat 6 pack and 4
worming tablets (2 each – 2 normal and 2 xl)

32.  This is not a good choice
 The Advocate large cat is fine for Mog (as he weighs
over 4kg) but is an overdose for Meg. While we are
unlikely to cause harm by doing this we should NEVER
give out the wrong pack size.
 A 6 pack of Advocate would provide 3 months
treatment for each cat, therefore one wormer each
would be the basic level of worming (one every 3
months)
 However Meg is a big hunter – she therefore needs to
be wormed monthly. Therefore for 3 months they
would need a minimum of 4 worming tablets – one for
Mog and 3 for Meg
 Click here to go back

33.  This is not a bad choice but we could do better.....
 The owner has said she is a bit short of cash – if she
can afford 2 x 6 packs this is fine (and actually better
value in the long term)but so long as she takes 6
pipettes in total she is fine to have the bug box
discount, therefore we could give her 2 x 3 packs which
would cost her less in one go
 Meg is a hunter – she needs to be wormed monthly.
Mog is not therefore only needs to be wormed every 3
months. Therefore you have not given enough
wormers for the 6 month supply of advocate you have
given
 Click here for next case

34.  This is a really good choice
 You have got enough wormers for both cats for the 3
months supply of flea treatment.
 You have recognised the different cats have different
worming requirements
 You have listened to the owners worry over cost and
given a smaller supply to ensure both cats are treated.
 Do remember that for some owners although it costs
more in one go it is better to take 6 packs as the cost
per pipette is less

35. Meg and Mog – Key Points
 It is fine to use a combination
of smaller products to make
up a bug box – there just must
be a minimum of 6 advocate
pipettes and 1(dogs) – 2(cats)
worming tablets / Profenders
(even if this makes it only 3
months supply per cat)
 If cats are hunters we should
recommend monthly
worming as they are prone to
picking up tapeworm

36. A Note on Cat Wormers
 Drontal normal tablets do up
to 4 kg
 Drontal XL tablets treat 6kg
 Therefore if a cat is over 4kg
but under 6kg you could
choose to give one and a half
normal tablets or one xl
tablet. This is really the
owners preference (maybe on
how easy the cat is to pill!!)
 Profender is always an option
if they are bad to pill

37. Basil
 9 Year old 61kg Great
Dane
 Lives at stables – no ticks
ever noted on him /
horses so low risk
 Getting to the vets is a
hassle so please sort him
out with enough to do
until next year

38. Basil
 Which option do you think would be best for him?
 2 x 6 pack of extra large advocate (12 pipettes) plus 4
Drontal extra large tablets
 One 6 pack of extra large and one 6 pack of Large
Advocate plus 2 Drontal extra large tablets
 Two 6 packs of extra large and two 6 packs of large
Advocate plus 4 Drontal extra large tablets

39.  Although Basil is an extra large dog – Advocate extra
large actually only treats dogs who are 25-40kg.
Therefore if you have a dog who is over 40kg you have
to think of them as XXL! You must choose the
combination of advocates to best suit their size.
 Therefore
 40-44kg – xl plus small
 44-50kg – xl plus medium
 50-65kg – xl plus large
 65- 80kg – two xl
 Basil needs 2 Drontal XL tablets every 6 months so the
4 you chose would last him the full year
 Click here to continue

40.  This is the correct choices regarding size for both
Advocate and Drontal
 However you have only given a 6 month supply. Basils
owner asked for enough so they did not need to come
back. Although it seems expensive to buy in one go it
can save owners considerable time, effort and energy
to get a full years supply.
 Click here to continue

41.  This is a great choice
 This is the correct size for Basil for both Advocate and
Drontal and you have selected enough to give a years
supply with monthly advocate and 6 monthly Drontal

42. Basil – Key Points
 You can give MORE than 6
pipettes – fine to give up to
a years supply per animal
 Large dogs have to use a
combination of advocate
sizes and drontal tabs to
cover their weight.
 The cost is likely to be high
– don't judge the owners
pocket but check they are
ok before they reach
reception! Ensure they
know they are saving on
the normal price

43. Polly
 Obviously is not really a
tiger! – however she acts
like one every time her
owners try to give her a
pill
 She is 4.6kg
 She doesn't really hunt –
maybe bringing
something home every 1-
2 months

44.  Which option do you think would be best for her?
 Advocate Large cat 6 pack, Profender Medium 6
pipettes
 Advocate Large cat 6 pack, Profender Medium 3
pipettes
 Advocate large cat 6 pack, Profender Medium 2
pipettes

45.  How Many Profender for a cat who hunts only a small
amount?
 There is not really a “correct answer”
 These cats are most at risk of Tapeworm as the
Advocate covers them for roundwom
 Every 3 months is the basic level, monthly is the
hunting cat level so probably go somewhere between
(i.e. Every 2 months)

46. Polly – Key Points
 Profender can be used instead of Drontal – it does cost
a tiny bit more but for many owners this is worth it!
 If they hunt a bit but not that much you can go in-
between the basic level of every 3 months the monthly
for hunters – i.e. Every 2 months

47. Jess and Tinker
 3 year old DSH and 2
year old Dachshund
 Jess is not really a hunter.
 Both are low risk for
ticks
 Money is tight – can they
share a bug box?
 Yes
 No

48. Jess and Tinker – Key Points
 Although the pricing on
the computer is for a cat
bug box and a dog bug box
they can share
 Just let reception know as
you print the labels so they
don't either think you have
not given enough products
or give out 2 outer boxes
(the outer boxes are quite
expensive to us!)

49. Sally
 11 week old Springer Pup
 Weighs 5.9kg
 Seems low risk for ticks
 How would you best deal
with this growing
puppy?

50.  They cant have a bug box until their weight stabilises a
little
 Give 3 months at their current weight (i.e. 3 pack of
advocate medium and 3 pack of advocate large)
 Price out for a bug box of their anticipated adult (or
adolescent (9 month) for very large breeds) and get
them to come in for monthly weigh ins to get the
correct sized product.

51.  Although the standard bug boxes are for animals with
stable weights we can make a growing pet bug box
 Click here to go back

52.  This is not the best option
 For young pets we do not know how fast / slow they are
going to grow
 If we guess by making up a box like this then we may
under or overdose them for periods of time
 Click here to go back

53.  This is the correct option
 For growing pets price up a bug box for their anticipated
adult weight. (if dealing with a giant breed – i.e. A Great
Dane who might not reach adult weight until 18 months
then you can guess regarding their weight in about 6
months time!)
 Only give them one months supply – ask them to come
back monthly to be weighed and we can then give them the
correct size as they grow
 Once they reach their mature weight we can stop seeing
them monthly and give them any remaining products to
take away
 If they go over the weight you guessed at then we will
honour the price for any remaining products in that box.

54. Sally - Key Points
 Many young pets only need bug boxes starting after Puppy
Bundle (as they get advocate and drontal in the puppy
pack)
 Price for their anticipated adult weight (Hills ideal weight
chart useful in guessing this)
 They come in for monthly weigh ins so we can give them
the correct sized advocate
 Once they hit their adult size we can give them the rest of
the box contents if any are left.
 Make sure for each weigh in you write what you have given
them and how much they have remaining on the clinical
notes

55. Golden Rules
 If you are unsure of anything (how high their risk is,
what combination would be best etc) – ASK
 If they have not been given Drontal or advocate before
a vet needs to check them to ensure they are suitable
(very quick check)
 If their weight has changed since their last dose of
Drontal or Advocate a vet or VN should check to
ensure you have suggested the right sized products