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USER AND CARER
INVOLVEMENT - LESSONS
FROM RESEARCH AND
PRACTICE
Jo Moriarty
Social Care Workforce Research Unit
Why it’s important
•Carers are experts

• Caring generally occurs in longstanding relationships
• Particularly important where person cared for lacks

capacity

• Cost effectiveness

• Carers will not use services they don’t value or think

are low quality
• Unsuitable services still cost!

•Risks to carers’ health if not supported

• Carers have poorer psychological health compared to

matched counterparts not caring (Hirst, 2003)

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Talking about
•Research project funded by

National Institute for Health
Research School for Social Care
Research (NIHR SSCR)
•Social care practice with carers

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Concurrent mixed method
design
•Family carers
•Carers' workers
•Voluntary
organisations
•Commissioners

•National survey of
councils with social
services
responsibilities

Interviews

Survey

Documents

National
workforce
data

•Care plans
•Leaflets and
brochures
•Websites

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•Analysis of Carers
Workers in NMDS-SC
(Hussein &
Manthorpe, 2012)

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Who we interviewed
8

23

17

38

Commissioners

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Voluntary organisations

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Carers workers

Family carers

5
SOME APPROACHES
Interviews and survey showed various ways local councils tried to
consult with carers

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Formal systems
•Forums
•Carers’ councils
•Increasingly been outsourced to

carers’ organisations to run

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“

I can't go to the [monthly] carers forum
[tomorrow], which I do try to do, and so do
our MPs and that's quite symbolic and
important ….If they [MPs] can't be
there, the chair, who is a carer, will read out her son [for whom she cares] is often with
her actually ….She will often read out the
apologies and the MPs will apologise.
Commissioner5

Sending out a message…
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”
“

…They made it so that we could afford to appoint
somebody for five hours a week, to run the Carers'
Council. And five hours a week doesn't do a
lot, um, and the person who is doing it, and her
manager feel that [the council] actually want 15
hours work for five hours money … But I do think
people are quite unrealistic about the voluntary
sector. I think they think we work on peanuts and
don't need actually funding to actually do the job.
But they want the job doing professionally

”

VOL09

Paying peanuts but wanting cashews?
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RECOGNISING
LIMITATIONS
Recognition that formal meetings and forums are not in themselves
enough and that other approaches are needed

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Not all carers recognise they are
caring
I [was] on an [information] stall
and the amount of people that
walked past and you said to
them, ‘Are you a carer?’ and
they said, ‘No, but I look after
so and so and so and so.
Because it was a relation they
just didn’t think of themselves
as a carer. It’s surprising and it’s
something you come across all
the time….They think a carer is
professional or someone who
gets paid or a stranger that
looks after someone’

Picture accompanying Daily
Telegraph article by Max
Pemberton in June 2009

(Family carer)

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Seldom heard or ‘hidden’
carers
• Carers from black and minority ethnic groups
• Young carers
• Lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender carers
• Carers in other situations where they feel they

might be stigmatised
• Carers in paid employment who may find it
hard to attend daytime meetings
• Carers who are unable to attend meetings in
person
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“

…Part of it is just the general society stigma, but
another part of it is that parents often feel
responsible for their children and parents of
women and men who use substance misuse or
who use substances, often feel responsible for
that and guilty … This is one of the issues that
comes up invariably … And because they’re
feeling like that already, from the very
beginning, they are reluctant to even seek any
[support]

”

Worker11

Stigma
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Jargon is a barrier
‘And I've frequently done loads
of meetings like that, where
you just go in and sit in … I'm
just there to make sure that the
carer understands every time
that they…'cause they [other
professionals] do tend to use
too many words that are too
[jargon ridden] and you can't
actually, sometimes you have
to go, ‘Excuse me, what does
[abbreviation] mean, and some
of them don't even know what
it means, but they say them’

Photo from agency job advert!

(WORKER20)

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SOME IDEAS
Some suggestions based on participants’ experiences

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“ [Worker] went out and visited the carers'
groups that she could visit, she went and put
out publicity, she held her first Carers'
Council meeting, and …. they've elected a
chair, they've elected a vice chair, and she is
effectively now supporting them to develop

Vol09

Capacity building
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”
Piggybacking on external
events/publicity
•Carers Week and Carers Rights

Day
• Information stalls and publicity campaigns

•Using other media
• Local radio
• Use of social media (still comparatively

uncommon and not evaluated)
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“

We are keeping an eye on the pilot work that’s
going on down in [city] with [supermarket]
identifying carers … [Supermarket] … have
trained up their till operators to ask the question if
there are, say, two people going through
checkout and they say, you know, ‘Are you a carer
for this individual?’

”

COMMISSIONER07

Beyond the obvious…
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Carers’ registers
• 80% of survey respondents

reported they or another
organisation ran carers’
register in locality
• Registers used for
• Planning services
• Consultation with carers
• Access to ‘emergency card’
• Other symbolic benefits –

discounts in council leisure
centre

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Recognise there will be
some allies
Personal experience of caring

70
60
50
40
30
20
10
0
Worker

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Commissioner

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Voluntary organisation

20
A guiding principle?
Well, don't let me use the word[s] ‘their
needs are different’ because I think all
carers' needs are basically the same, it's
just that the way the needs are met is
different (WORKER22)

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Resources from Social Care Institute
for Excellence (www.scie.org.uk)

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Disclaimer
The preparation of this presentation
was made possible by a grant from the
National Institute for Health Research
(NIHR) School for Social Care Research
on social care practice with carers. The
views expressed in this presentation are
those of the authors and not
necessarily those of the NIHR School
for Social Care Research or the
Department of Health/NIHR
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Thanks to….
• Everyone who was interviewed or who

returned a survey
• Lizzy, Jenny, Mark, and Carolyn who helped
with interviewing
• Lizzy for help with data entry and coding
• Virtual Outsourcing, Laptop Confidential
and Voicescript who did the transcribing
• The Project Advisory Group and the Unit
Service User and Carer Advisory Group
• To SSCR for funding
• To you for listening!

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Involving carers in planning services

  • 1. USER AND CARER INVOLVEMENT - LESSONS FROM RESEARCH AND PRACTICE Jo Moriarty Social Care Workforce Research Unit
  • 2. Why it’s important •Carers are experts • Caring generally occurs in longstanding relationships • Particularly important where person cared for lacks capacity • Cost effectiveness • Carers will not use services they don’t value or think are low quality • Unsuitable services still cost! •Risks to carers’ health if not supported • Carers have poorer psychological health compared to matched counterparts not caring (Hirst, 2003) 6 December 2013 Belfast: Carers NI 2
  • 3. Talking about •Research project funded by National Institute for Health Research School for Social Care Research (NIHR SSCR) •Social care practice with carers 6 December 2013 Belfast: Carers NI 3
  • 4. Concurrent mixed method design •Family carers •Carers' workers •Voluntary organisations •Commissioners •National survey of councils with social services responsibilities Interviews Survey Documents National workforce data •Care plans •Leaflets and brochures •Websites 6 December 2013 •Analysis of Carers Workers in NMDS-SC (Hussein & Manthorpe, 2012) Belfast: Carers NI 4
  • 5. Who we interviewed 8 23 17 38 Commissioners 6 December 2013 Voluntary organisations Belfast: Carers NI Carers workers Family carers 5
  • 6. SOME APPROACHES Interviews and survey showed various ways local councils tried to consult with carers 6 December 2013 Belfast: Carers NI 6
  • 7. Formal systems •Forums •Carers’ councils •Increasingly been outsourced to carers’ organisations to run 6 December 2013 Belfast: Carers NI 7
  • 8. “ I can't go to the [monthly] carers forum [tomorrow], which I do try to do, and so do our MPs and that's quite symbolic and important ….If they [MPs] can't be there, the chair, who is a carer, will read out her son [for whom she cares] is often with her actually ….She will often read out the apologies and the MPs will apologise. Commissioner5 Sending out a message… 6 December 2013 Belfast: Carers NI 8 ”
  • 9. “ …They made it so that we could afford to appoint somebody for five hours a week, to run the Carers' Council. And five hours a week doesn't do a lot, um, and the person who is doing it, and her manager feel that [the council] actually want 15 hours work for five hours money … But I do think people are quite unrealistic about the voluntary sector. I think they think we work on peanuts and don't need actually funding to actually do the job. But they want the job doing professionally ” VOL09 Paying peanuts but wanting cashews? 6 December 2013 Belfast: Carers NI 9
  • 10. RECOGNISING LIMITATIONS Recognition that formal meetings and forums are not in themselves enough and that other approaches are needed 6 December 2013 Belfast: Carers NI 10
  • 11. Not all carers recognise they are caring I [was] on an [information] stall and the amount of people that walked past and you said to them, ‘Are you a carer?’ and they said, ‘No, but I look after so and so and so and so. Because it was a relation they just didn’t think of themselves as a carer. It’s surprising and it’s something you come across all the time….They think a carer is professional or someone who gets paid or a stranger that looks after someone’ Picture accompanying Daily Telegraph article by Max Pemberton in June 2009 (Family carer) 6 December 2013 Belfast: Carers NI 11
  • 12. Seldom heard or ‘hidden’ carers • Carers from black and minority ethnic groups • Young carers • Lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender carers • Carers in other situations where they feel they might be stigmatised • Carers in paid employment who may find it hard to attend daytime meetings • Carers who are unable to attend meetings in person 6 December 2013 Belfast: Carers NI 12
  • 13. “ …Part of it is just the general society stigma, but another part of it is that parents often feel responsible for their children and parents of women and men who use substance misuse or who use substances, often feel responsible for that and guilty … This is one of the issues that comes up invariably … And because they’re feeling like that already, from the very beginning, they are reluctant to even seek any [support] ” Worker11 Stigma 6 December 2013 Belfast: Carers NI 13
  • 14. Jargon is a barrier ‘And I've frequently done loads of meetings like that, where you just go in and sit in … I'm just there to make sure that the carer understands every time that they…'cause they [other professionals] do tend to use too many words that are too [jargon ridden] and you can't actually, sometimes you have to go, ‘Excuse me, what does [abbreviation] mean, and some of them don't even know what it means, but they say them’ Photo from agency job advert! (WORKER20) 6 December 2013 Belfast: Carers NI 14
  • 15. SOME IDEAS Some suggestions based on participants’ experiences 6 December 2013 Belfast: Carers NI 15
  • 16. “ [Worker] went out and visited the carers' groups that she could visit, she went and put out publicity, she held her first Carers' Council meeting, and …. they've elected a chair, they've elected a vice chair, and she is effectively now supporting them to develop Vol09 Capacity building 6 December 2013 Belfast: Carers NI 16 ”
  • 17. Piggybacking on external events/publicity •Carers Week and Carers Rights Day • Information stalls and publicity campaigns •Using other media • Local radio • Use of social media (still comparatively uncommon and not evaluated) 6 December 2013 Belfast: Carers NI 17
  • 18. “ We are keeping an eye on the pilot work that’s going on down in [city] with [supermarket] identifying carers … [Supermarket] … have trained up their till operators to ask the question if there are, say, two people going through checkout and they say, you know, ‘Are you a carer for this individual?’ ” COMMISSIONER07 Beyond the obvious… 6 December 2013 Belfast: Carers NI 18
  • 19. Carers’ registers • 80% of survey respondents reported they or another organisation ran carers’ register in locality • Registers used for • Planning services • Consultation with carers • Access to ‘emergency card’ • Other symbolic benefits – discounts in council leisure centre 6 December 2013 Belfast: Carers NI 19
  • 20. Recognise there will be some allies Personal experience of caring 70 60 50 40 30 20 10 0 Worker 6 December 2013 Commissioner Belfast: Carers NI Voluntary organisation 20
  • 21. A guiding principle? Well, don't let me use the word[s] ‘their needs are different’ because I think all carers' needs are basically the same, it's just that the way the needs are met is different (WORKER22) 6 December 2013 Belfast: Carers NI 21
  • 22. Resources from Social Care Institute for Excellence (www.scie.org.uk) 6 December 2013 Belfast: Carers NI 22
  • 23. Disclaimer The preparation of this presentation was made possible by a grant from the National Institute for Health Research (NIHR) School for Social Care Research on social care practice with carers. The views expressed in this presentation are those of the authors and not necessarily those of the NIHR School for Social Care Research or the Department of Health/NIHR 6 December 2013 Belfast: Carers NI 23
  • 24. Thanks to…. • Everyone who was interviewed or who returned a survey • Lizzy, Jenny, Mark, and Carolyn who helped with interviewing • Lizzy for help with data entry and coding • Virtual Outsourcing, Laptop Confidential and Voicescript who did the transcribing • The Project Advisory Group and the Unit Service User and Carer Advisory Group • To SSCR for funding • To you for listening! 6 December 2013 Belfast: Carers NI 24