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SOA 2015 Debates
Rob Mac Sweeney
@critcarereviews | www.bit.do/SOA15
London, December 8th
2015
No Conflicts of InterestNo Conflicts of Interest
www.bit.do/SOA15
Stretching
the
Lung
Isn't
Harmful
VILI
Doesn't
Exist
So
What
Exactly
is
This ?
The Charge of the Light Brigade
Overwhelming Odds
Experimental
MA
RCT
Observational
Pressure
Volume
0 mins 5 mins 20 mins
Dreyfuss D, Saumon G. Ventilator-induced lung injury: lessons from
experimental studies. Am J Respir Crit Care Med 1998;157:1–30
45 cm H2
0
Pressure
Volume
Dreyfuss D, Soler P, Basset G, Saumon G. High Inflation Pressure Pulmonary Edema.
Am Rev Respir Dis 1988;137:1159–1164
Pressure
Volume
PEEP
Webb HH, Tierney DF. Experimental pulmonary edema due to intermittent
positive pressure ventilation with high inflation pressures: protection by positive
end-expiratory pressure. Am Rev Respir Dis 1974;110:556–565
14/0 45/10 45/0cm H2
0
Surgical Patients without ARDS
Surgical Patients without ARDS
Critically ill without ARDS
Surgical Patients without ARDS
Critically ill without ARDS
Critically ill with ARDS
Surgical Patients without ARDS
Critically ill without ARDS
Critically ill with ARDS
Organ Donors without ARDS
vs
6 - 8 ml/kg
&
6–8 cmH2
0 PEEP
&
Recruitment
12 ml/kg
&
≥ 30 cmH2
0
10 - 12 ml/kg
&
0 cmH2
0 PEEP
&
No Recruitment
Post-Operative Complications
vs
6 - 8 ml/kg
&
6–8 cmH2
0 PEEP
&
Recruitment
12 ml/kg
&
≥ 30 cmH2
0
10 - 12 ml/kg
&
0 cmH2
0 PEEP
&
No Recruitment
p=0.001RR 0.40 (0.24 - 0.68)
vs6 ml/kg 10 ml/kg
Development of ARDS
vs6 ml/kg 10 ml/kg
2.6% 13.5%vs p = 0.01
6 ml/kg
&
≤ 30 cmH2
0
12 ml/kg
&
≥ 30 cmH2
0
vs
vs
6 ml/kg
&
≤ 30 cmH2
0
12 ml/kg
&
≥ 30 cmH2
0
Mortality
31% 40%vs p = 0.01
vs
10-12 ml/kg
&
PEEP
3-5 cmH2
0
6-8 ml/kg
&
PEEP
8-10 cmH2
0
vs
10-12 ml/kg
&
PEEP
3-5 cmH2
0
6-8 ml/kg
&
PEEP
8-10 cmH2
0
Lungs Harvested
54% 27%vs P=0.004
vs Higher VtLower Vt
vs Higher VtLower Vt
RR 0.33 (0.23 to 0.47)
Development of ARDS
vs
RR 0.64 (0.46–0.89)
Higher VtLower Vt
Mortality
RR 0.33 (0.23 to 0.47)
Development of ARDS
Perspective
Lord Raglan
Lord Cardigan
Experimental & Physiological Studies
Experimental & Physiological Studies
Interventional Studies
6 ml/kg 12 ml/kg
6 ml/kg
158
12 ml/kg
Day 1
Pa02 / FiO2
176
6 ml/kg
158
12 ml/kg
Day 1
Pa02 / FiO2
176
Day 3
Pa02 / FiO2
160 177
6 ml/kg
158
12 ml/kg
Day 1
Pa02 / FiO2
176
Day 3
Pa02 / FiO2
160 177
Mortality 31% 40%
Miscommunication
“Into the Valley of Death”
Officer Louis Nolan
The man blamed for the
misunderstanding
leading to the
Charge of the Light Brigade
Officer Louis Nolan
He was Killed at the Start of
the Charge....
Carnage
118
Wounded
Captured
Killed
127
60
13th
Light Dragoons – Survivors of the Charge of the Light Brigade
195Survived
Cornet assistant Surgeon Henry Wilkin, 11th Hussars.
Charge of the Light Brigade Survivor (photo Roger Fenton)
UK
11,000 ARDS
Cases
Cornet assistant Surgeon Henry Wilkin, 11th Hussars.
Charge of the Light Brigade Survivor (photo Roger Fenton)
UK
11,000 ARDS
Cases
Europe
40,000 ARDS
Deaths
Cornet assistant Surgeon Henry Wilkin, 11th Hussars.
Charge of the Light Brigade Survivor (photo Roger Fenton)
Memorials
Memorial in the Balaklava valley to the British who fell in the Crimean War.
History
“the lungs of one man may
bear, without injury, as great a
force as another man can
exert; which by the bellows
cannot always be determin’d”.
Fothergill J: Observations on a case published in the last volume of the medical essays,
&c. of recovering a man dead in appearance, by distending the lungs with air. Phil Trans
R Soc Med 1744–1745;43:275–281
6.3 ml/kg
REST
Study
“Into the VALI of Death”
SOA 2015 Debates
Rob Mac Sweeney
@critcarereviews | www.bit.do/SOA15
London, December 8th
2015
ARDS VILI Pro-Con Debate - Mac Sweeney

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