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MSM SALES MANAGEMENT CONSULTANTS & 
LOCUS RESEARCH 
EXCUSE OR GREAT IDEA 
How to use customer contact through sales as a listening post 
for developing new products and improving your business 
© COPYRIGHT 2014 MSM SALES MANAGEMENT CONSULTANTS LIMITED. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. 
Aug 2014 
© COPYRIGHT 2014 MSM SALES MANAGEMENT CONSULTANTS LIMITED. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED.
CONTACT P.2 
© COPYRIGHT 2014 MSM SALES MANAGEMENT CONSULTANTS LIMITED. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. 
For further information contact: 
Dan Hansen 
Managing Director 
Mobile +64 (0) 21 059 6233 
Email dan@msmalesmanagement.com 
MSM Sales Management Consultants Limited 
PO Box 1025 | Seventh Avenue | Tauranga 3175 | New Zealand 
Telephone +64 (0) 7 571 1139 | 0800 123 529 
Email info@smsmalesmanagement.com 
Website msmsalesmanagement.com 
UK Office 
145-157 St John Street | London | EC1V 4PW | England
AGENDA P.3 
© COPYRIGHT 2014 MSM SALES MANAGEMENT CONSULTANTS LIMITED. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. 
• Introducing MSM 
• The opportunity 
• The roles of sales and product development 
• Moving to a more informed customer engagement 
through better questions 
• Aligning internal processes
ABOUT MSM P.4 
• MSM specialises in delivering increased profitability through sales in 
© COPYRIGHT 2014 MSM SALES MANAGEMENT CONSULTANTS LIMITED. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. 
local and export markets. 
• Our expertise is in helping companies develop export sales in; 
• Food and beverage 
• Health, beauty and nutrition 
• Precision manufacturing and electronics 
• Innovation, Technology and Media 
• This year MSM will support in excess of $130m of gross sales, over 
$100m will be related to export
WHAT WE DO P.5 
© COPYRIGHT 2014 MSM SALES MANAGEMENT CONSULTANTS LIMITED. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. 
International business development sales 
With commercial experience in over 30 countries, MSM helps manufacturers enter export 
markets using a proven, robust framework for success. Core markets include Australia, 
America, United Kingdom and Europe. 
Market entrance (new markets with current products) 
Success in one market sector rarely ensures growth in another. MSM works with successful 
organisations that want to grow market penetration outside of traditional markets. 
Commercialisation of new products and services 
Bringing new products and service lines to market is both costly and stressful. Our approach is 
all about de-risking market entry and focussing sales resources towards return on investment. 
We have significant experience in bringing secondary processed products to market. 
Developing best-in-class sales organisations 
Building continually successful sales teams and distribution networks is a combination of the 
right people, skills, sales processes and systems. We have a history of developing sales teams 
and distribution networks that exceed budgets and support continued growth
OUR PROJECT EXPERIENCE P.6 
AUSTRALIA 
• Financial services 
• Food and beverage 
• Technology (software 
and services 
providers) 
• Manufacturing 
• Natural health and 
beauty products 
© COPYRIGHT 2014 MSM SALES MANAGEMENT CONSULTANTS LIMITED. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. 
NORTH AMERICA 
• Food and beverage 
• Technology (software and services 
providers) 
• Manufacturing 
• Natural health and beauty products 
• Electronics 
UNITED KINGDOM & EUROPE 
• Food and beverage 
• Technology (software and services 
providers) 
• Manufacturing 
• Natural health and beauty products 
• Distribution 
• Electronics 
NEW ZEALAND 
• Building products 
• Financial services 
• Construction services 
• Distribution 
• Food and beverage 
• Training services 
• Technology (software 
and services 
providers) 
• Printing services 
• Media
SITUATION P.7 
• Business development people are working at the coal 
face uncovering and understanding customer needs with 
a view to completing sales. 
• Product development teams go inside customers’ 
© COPYRIGHT 2014 MSM SALES MANAGEMENT CONSULTANTS LIMITED. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. 
businesses to: 
• Understand the context products are used in 
• To develop new products to meet customer needs
THE OPPORTUNITY P.8 
© COPYRIGHT 2014 MSM SALES MANAGEMENT CONSULTANTS LIMITED. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. 
What if we could... 
• Generate closer engagement between sales and product 
development. 
• Develop more informed views of customers internally. 
• Develop more informed relationships with customers. 
• Deliver products that provide greater commercial value 
to the market.
THE ROLE OF SALES P.9 
© COPYRIGHT 2014 MSM SALES MANAGEMENT CONSULTANTS LIMITED. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. 
• Has the role of sales changed? 
• Drive sales revenue against a budget or target. 
• Maintain the customer relationship. 
• Customers are better informed. 
• Emphasis on customer understanding means a more 
collaborative approach is needed.
P.1 
0 
WHY DOES THE FEEDBACK LOOP 
FAIL 
So if we have a greater understanding of the customer, why 
does a sales conversation generally fail to inform product 
development? 
• For the most part the context dictates the perception. 
• Its only constant and consistent feedback across a sales 
© COPYRIGHT 2014 MSM SALES MANAGEMENT CONSULTANTS LIMITED. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. 
team that prompts change. 
• There is a fine line between an excuse for poor sales 
performance and customer feedback.
P.11 
Better Questions are, for the 
most part all that separate sales conversations from 
product development 
But shouldn't we be asking better questions anyway? 
© COPYRIGHT 2014 MSM SALES MANAGEMENT CONSULTANTS LIMITED. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED.
P.1 
So what does a Better 2 
Questioning process 
look like? 
© COPYRIGHT 2014 MSM SALES MANAGEMENT CONSULTANTS LIMITED. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. 
1. Describe the customer’s situation 
2. Articulate the customer’s problem and the effect it has on the 
business 
3. Detail your solution and the way it addresses the challenge 
4. Drive impetus for change today
P.1 
3 SITUATION 
© COPYRIGHT 2014 MSM SALES MANAGEMENT CONSULTANTS LIMITED. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. 
• What does the business do? 
• Understanding key relationships? 
• Wide-angle view of the business. 
• General view of the industry. 
• Most sales conversations stop here.
P.1 
4 WEAKNESSES 
What are the challenges facing the business? 
© COPYRIGHT 2014 MSM SALES MANAGEMENT CONSULTANTS LIMITED. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. 
• What keeps the people up at night? 
• What are the customer’s weaknesses? 
• Can we clearly articulate back to the business what the 
challenge is? 
• Do they agree?
P.1 
5 
WHAT IS THE EFFECT OF THE 
WEAKNESS 
What are the effects of the challenge on the business? 
© COPYRIGHT 2014 MSM SALES MANAGEMENT CONSULTANTS LIMITED. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. 
• Is it monetary, time, opportunity cost? 
• Do we really understand the impact? 
• Who is impacted? 
• What happens if the business does not change?
P.1 
6 
WHAT IS THE EFFECT OF OUR 
SOLUTION 
• What can we do to solve the customer’s challenges? 
• What would the effect of our solution look like? 
• Who would benefit? 
• Is the benefit monetary, time, opportunity cost? 
• What is the business case? 
© COPYRIGHT 2014 MSM SALES MANAGEMENT CONSULTANTS LIMITED. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED.
P.1 
7 TIME FOR CHANGE 
• Does applying our product drive impetus for change 
© COPYRIGHT 2014 MSM SALES MANAGEMENT CONSULTANTS LIMITED. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. 
today? 
• If not, do we really understand the customer problem 
and impact? 
• What do we need to change in our product to address 
the problem? 
• Have we solved the real problem?
P.1 
8 OBJECTIONS 
• Sales Objections are continuous improvement feedback 
© COPYRIGHT 2014 MSM SALES MANAGEMENT CONSULTANTS LIMITED. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. 
in real time 
• Most businesses miss the benefit of objections as they’re 
focussed on the opportunity 
• Objections tend to stay with the sales person, maybe 
team, until there is critical mass. 
• Using a objection register is an easy way to distribute 
feedback across the business.
P.1 
9 SALES PERFORMANCE 
• Sales excuses tend to be one dimensional, using a 
process like SWEET reduces the risk of emotive 
feedback because outcomes are found from fact derived 
from in-depth questioning. 
• The SWEET process rolls up through management. 
When an organisation expects better clarity of 
understanding, sales people start asking better 
questions. 
© COPYRIGHT 2014 MSM SALES MANAGEMENT CONSULTANTS LIMITED. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED.
P.2 
0 PRODUCT DEVELOPMENT 
• Sales reviews, account reviews should include some 
representation from product development. 
• Product development should be made aware of sales 
© COPYRIGHT 2014 MSM SALES MANAGEMENT CONSULTANTS LIMITED. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. 
losses and objections. 
• Product development can utilise the sales function, sales 
people are often the most market-engaged of all staff. 
• It’s often easier to have sales people take ‘what ifs?’ to 
market rather than minimum viable product or concepts.
P.2 
1 KEY TAKE-AWAYS 
• Better questioning is the key to minimising sales 
© COPYRIGHT 2014 MSM SALES MANAGEMENT CONSULTANTS LIMITED. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. 
excuses. 
• The SWEET questioning process is one of the most 
effective. 
• Management set the expectations. 
• Opportunity to involve product development across the 
sales cycle. 
• It’s often easier to have sales people take ‘what ifs’ to 
market rather than minimum viable product or concepts.
P.2 
2 CONTACT 
© COPYRIGHT 2014 MSM SALES MANAGEMENT CONSULTANTS LIMITED. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. 
For further information contact: 
Dan Hansen 
Managing Director 
Mobile +64 (0) 21 059 6233 
Email dan@msmalesmanagement.com 
MSM Sales Management Consultants Limited 
PO Box 1025 | Seventh Avenue | Tauranga 3175 | New Zealand 
Telephone +64 (0) 7 571 1139 | 0800 123 529 
Email info@smsmalesmanagement.com 
Website msmsalesmanagement.com 
UK Office 
145-157 St John Street | London | EC1V 4PW | England
MSM SALES MANAGEMENT CONSULTANTS & 
LOCUS RESEARCH 
EXCUSE OR GREAT IDEA 
How to use customer contact through sales as a listening post 
for developing new products and improving your business 
© COPYRIGHT 2014 MSM SALES MANAGEMENT CONSULTANTS LIMITED. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. 
Aug 2014 
© COPYRIGHT 2014 MSM SALES MANAGEMENT CONSULTANTS LIMITED. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED.

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'Excuse or Great Idea: How to use customer contact through sales as a listening post for developing new products and improving your business.

  • 1. MSM SALES MANAGEMENT CONSULTANTS & LOCUS RESEARCH EXCUSE OR GREAT IDEA How to use customer contact through sales as a listening post for developing new products and improving your business © COPYRIGHT 2014 MSM SALES MANAGEMENT CONSULTANTS LIMITED. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Aug 2014 © COPYRIGHT 2014 MSM SALES MANAGEMENT CONSULTANTS LIMITED. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED.
  • 2. CONTACT P.2 © COPYRIGHT 2014 MSM SALES MANAGEMENT CONSULTANTS LIMITED. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. For further information contact: Dan Hansen Managing Director Mobile +64 (0) 21 059 6233 Email dan@msmalesmanagement.com MSM Sales Management Consultants Limited PO Box 1025 | Seventh Avenue | Tauranga 3175 | New Zealand Telephone +64 (0) 7 571 1139 | 0800 123 529 Email info@smsmalesmanagement.com Website msmsalesmanagement.com UK Office 145-157 St John Street | London | EC1V 4PW | England
  • 3. AGENDA P.3 © COPYRIGHT 2014 MSM SALES MANAGEMENT CONSULTANTS LIMITED. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. • Introducing MSM • The opportunity • The roles of sales and product development • Moving to a more informed customer engagement through better questions • Aligning internal processes
  • 4. ABOUT MSM P.4 • MSM specialises in delivering increased profitability through sales in © COPYRIGHT 2014 MSM SALES MANAGEMENT CONSULTANTS LIMITED. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. local and export markets. • Our expertise is in helping companies develop export sales in; • Food and beverage • Health, beauty and nutrition • Precision manufacturing and electronics • Innovation, Technology and Media • This year MSM will support in excess of $130m of gross sales, over $100m will be related to export
  • 5. WHAT WE DO P.5 © COPYRIGHT 2014 MSM SALES MANAGEMENT CONSULTANTS LIMITED. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. International business development sales With commercial experience in over 30 countries, MSM helps manufacturers enter export markets using a proven, robust framework for success. Core markets include Australia, America, United Kingdom and Europe. Market entrance (new markets with current products) Success in one market sector rarely ensures growth in another. MSM works with successful organisations that want to grow market penetration outside of traditional markets. Commercialisation of new products and services Bringing new products and service lines to market is both costly and stressful. Our approach is all about de-risking market entry and focussing sales resources towards return on investment. We have significant experience in bringing secondary processed products to market. Developing best-in-class sales organisations Building continually successful sales teams and distribution networks is a combination of the right people, skills, sales processes and systems. We have a history of developing sales teams and distribution networks that exceed budgets and support continued growth
  • 6. OUR PROJECT EXPERIENCE P.6 AUSTRALIA • Financial services • Food and beverage • Technology (software and services providers) • Manufacturing • Natural health and beauty products © COPYRIGHT 2014 MSM SALES MANAGEMENT CONSULTANTS LIMITED. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. NORTH AMERICA • Food and beverage • Technology (software and services providers) • Manufacturing • Natural health and beauty products • Electronics UNITED KINGDOM & EUROPE • Food and beverage • Technology (software and services providers) • Manufacturing • Natural health and beauty products • Distribution • Electronics NEW ZEALAND • Building products • Financial services • Construction services • Distribution • Food and beverage • Training services • Technology (software and services providers) • Printing services • Media
  • 7. SITUATION P.7 • Business development people are working at the coal face uncovering and understanding customer needs with a view to completing sales. • Product development teams go inside customers’ © COPYRIGHT 2014 MSM SALES MANAGEMENT CONSULTANTS LIMITED. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. businesses to: • Understand the context products are used in • To develop new products to meet customer needs
  • 8. THE OPPORTUNITY P.8 © COPYRIGHT 2014 MSM SALES MANAGEMENT CONSULTANTS LIMITED. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. What if we could... • Generate closer engagement between sales and product development. • Develop more informed views of customers internally. • Develop more informed relationships with customers. • Deliver products that provide greater commercial value to the market.
  • 9. THE ROLE OF SALES P.9 © COPYRIGHT 2014 MSM SALES MANAGEMENT CONSULTANTS LIMITED. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. • Has the role of sales changed? • Drive sales revenue against a budget or target. • Maintain the customer relationship. • Customers are better informed. • Emphasis on customer understanding means a more collaborative approach is needed.
  • 10. P.1 0 WHY DOES THE FEEDBACK LOOP FAIL So if we have a greater understanding of the customer, why does a sales conversation generally fail to inform product development? • For the most part the context dictates the perception. • Its only constant and consistent feedback across a sales © COPYRIGHT 2014 MSM SALES MANAGEMENT CONSULTANTS LIMITED. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. team that prompts change. • There is a fine line between an excuse for poor sales performance and customer feedback.
  • 11. P.11 Better Questions are, for the most part all that separate sales conversations from product development But shouldn't we be asking better questions anyway? © COPYRIGHT 2014 MSM SALES MANAGEMENT CONSULTANTS LIMITED. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED.
  • 12. P.1 So what does a Better 2 Questioning process look like? © COPYRIGHT 2014 MSM SALES MANAGEMENT CONSULTANTS LIMITED. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. 1. Describe the customer’s situation 2. Articulate the customer’s problem and the effect it has on the business 3. Detail your solution and the way it addresses the challenge 4. Drive impetus for change today
  • 13. P.1 3 SITUATION © COPYRIGHT 2014 MSM SALES MANAGEMENT CONSULTANTS LIMITED. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. • What does the business do? • Understanding key relationships? • Wide-angle view of the business. • General view of the industry. • Most sales conversations stop here.
  • 14. P.1 4 WEAKNESSES What are the challenges facing the business? © COPYRIGHT 2014 MSM SALES MANAGEMENT CONSULTANTS LIMITED. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. • What keeps the people up at night? • What are the customer’s weaknesses? • Can we clearly articulate back to the business what the challenge is? • Do they agree?
  • 15. P.1 5 WHAT IS THE EFFECT OF THE WEAKNESS What are the effects of the challenge on the business? © COPYRIGHT 2014 MSM SALES MANAGEMENT CONSULTANTS LIMITED. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. • Is it monetary, time, opportunity cost? • Do we really understand the impact? • Who is impacted? • What happens if the business does not change?
  • 16. P.1 6 WHAT IS THE EFFECT OF OUR SOLUTION • What can we do to solve the customer’s challenges? • What would the effect of our solution look like? • Who would benefit? • Is the benefit monetary, time, opportunity cost? • What is the business case? © COPYRIGHT 2014 MSM SALES MANAGEMENT CONSULTANTS LIMITED. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED.
  • 17. P.1 7 TIME FOR CHANGE • Does applying our product drive impetus for change © COPYRIGHT 2014 MSM SALES MANAGEMENT CONSULTANTS LIMITED. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. today? • If not, do we really understand the customer problem and impact? • What do we need to change in our product to address the problem? • Have we solved the real problem?
  • 18. P.1 8 OBJECTIONS • Sales Objections are continuous improvement feedback © COPYRIGHT 2014 MSM SALES MANAGEMENT CONSULTANTS LIMITED. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. in real time • Most businesses miss the benefit of objections as they’re focussed on the opportunity • Objections tend to stay with the sales person, maybe team, until there is critical mass. • Using a objection register is an easy way to distribute feedback across the business.
  • 19. P.1 9 SALES PERFORMANCE • Sales excuses tend to be one dimensional, using a process like SWEET reduces the risk of emotive feedback because outcomes are found from fact derived from in-depth questioning. • The SWEET process rolls up through management. When an organisation expects better clarity of understanding, sales people start asking better questions. © COPYRIGHT 2014 MSM SALES MANAGEMENT CONSULTANTS LIMITED. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED.
  • 20. P.2 0 PRODUCT DEVELOPMENT • Sales reviews, account reviews should include some representation from product development. • Product development should be made aware of sales © COPYRIGHT 2014 MSM SALES MANAGEMENT CONSULTANTS LIMITED. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. losses and objections. • Product development can utilise the sales function, sales people are often the most market-engaged of all staff. • It’s often easier to have sales people take ‘what ifs?’ to market rather than minimum viable product or concepts.
  • 21. P.2 1 KEY TAKE-AWAYS • Better questioning is the key to minimising sales © COPYRIGHT 2014 MSM SALES MANAGEMENT CONSULTANTS LIMITED. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. excuses. • The SWEET questioning process is one of the most effective. • Management set the expectations. • Opportunity to involve product development across the sales cycle. • It’s often easier to have sales people take ‘what ifs’ to market rather than minimum viable product or concepts.
  • 22. P.2 2 CONTACT © COPYRIGHT 2014 MSM SALES MANAGEMENT CONSULTANTS LIMITED. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. For further information contact: Dan Hansen Managing Director Mobile +64 (0) 21 059 6233 Email dan@msmalesmanagement.com MSM Sales Management Consultants Limited PO Box 1025 | Seventh Avenue | Tauranga 3175 | New Zealand Telephone +64 (0) 7 571 1139 | 0800 123 529 Email info@smsmalesmanagement.com Website msmsalesmanagement.com UK Office 145-157 St John Street | London | EC1V 4PW | England
  • 23. MSM SALES MANAGEMENT CONSULTANTS & LOCUS RESEARCH EXCUSE OR GREAT IDEA How to use customer contact through sales as a listening post for developing new products and improving your business © COPYRIGHT 2014 MSM SALES MANAGEMENT CONSULTANTS LIMITED. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Aug 2014 © COPYRIGHT 2014 MSM SALES MANAGEMENT CONSULTANTS LIMITED. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED.