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                           Common Mistakes Can Equal Disaster at Job Interviews
                           [By Heather Jung]
                           After three years of pulling all-nighters, cramming for tests, seemingly endless classes, and preparing for the bar exam, law
                           students finally find themselves in what can only be referred to as “the real world.” While some students may be offered jobs
                           based on their internships, others will have to scramble to find jobs in which they can put their years of hard work to use.




Admissions and career counselor and former         glean by trolling employer websites, but so           not know about. Hobbies are great things
Dean of Admissions for University of Chicago       many applicants don’t even take the time              to mention on your resume because they
Law School Anna Ivey said that there are           to do that. Another resource is to talk to            give the interviewer a more personal sense
certain mistakes that a majority of students       fellow students and alums who have worked             of who you are and what really makes you
seem to make when applying for jobs at law         there, because they have firsthand and inside         excited. If you are genuinely interested in
firms, and these mistakes can cost otherwise       knowledge about those employers.”                     something, put it on there. However, do not
qualified and intelligent students the jobs                                                              list things on your resume that you are only
they were after.                                   The third error students often make is                mildly interested in or do not feel qualified to
                                                   underselling themselves. First-time job               talk about.
The first mistake students often make is not       seekers often fail to list previous jobs and
letting their personalities shine through.         activities, as well as to explain or put into         “You can’t just throw stuff in there
According to Ivey, students can be lifeless        context various accomplishments. According            that looks impressive,” Ivey said. “The
and too “safe” when talking to interviewers.       to Ivey, students often assume “too much              whole point of doing that is to give the
                                                   knowledge on the part of the interviewer.”            interviewer something to grab onto to get
“So many job applicants sit there like             There are hundreds of awards, scholarships,           the conversation rolling, and they are going
bumps on a log, and you have to pity these         and organizations that interviewers have              to want to talk to you about that stuff. So
interviewers who have to conduct back-to-          never heard of.                                       anything that you put on your resume is
back interview sessions for eight hours a day                                                            absolutely fair game, and you should be
                                                   “Ultimately, the reader should understand
with applicants who don’t engage them at                                                                 prepared to talk for 30 seconds about
                                                   for every entry what the significance of the
all or express any signs of life. That’s a very                                                          anything you put on there.”
                                                   award or achievement is, and often that’s not
common [mistake],” Ivey said.
                                                   self-explanatory,” Ivey said.
                                                                                                         On her website, Ivey lists five other mistakes
Failing to research the company one is                                                                   students tend to make when applying for jobs.
                                                   On the other side of the coin, students often
interviewing with is another common
                                                   go into too much detail regarding jobs that
downfall for students. Employers like                                                                    She says that parents are often too involved
                                                   are not related to their careers.
applicants to do their research and know                                                                 in their children’s lives. In most instances,
a little bit about the companies they are                                                                parental involvement is not a bad thing, but
                                                   “Another common problem is that many law
applying to work for. When applying for a                                                                when it comes to a job interview, advice from
                                                   school students haven’t had very glamorous
job, find out background information about                                                               parents should be kept to a minimum.
                                                   jobs before law school, and that’s fine, but
the company, who it represents, who its
                                                   then they shouldn’t describe in great detail
competitors are, the work it is proudest                                                                 “You’ll stand out from the pack as
                                                   what they did (which is often pretty clerical),
of, and all other relevant details you can                                                               exceptionally mature and professional if you
                                                   but rather, they should focus on what they
uncover.                                                                                                 keep your parents’ advice entirely behind the
                                                   learned or observed, or what kinds of larger
                                                                                                         scenes; recruiters shouldn’t experience any
                                                   projects or deals they were able to work on,
“Winging it might work if you’re a superstar                                                             direct involvement by your parents.”
                                                   even if their role was a small one,” Ivey said.
in your class, but everyone else should do
a lot of homework before walking into an           The fourth mistake is listing hobbies and             With the growing MySpace phenomenon,
interview. It’s amazing how much you can           interests on your resume that you really do           potential employers are using the website


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as a hiring tool. Ivey advises job seekers to    phone number, provide the number at which        anyone can become better at it. I also think
never post things on their MySpace pages         it is easiest to reach you. Most likely, this    laziness plays a role; it is human nature,”
that they would not want potential employers     number will be your cell phone number.           said Ivey.
to see. She also says to try “Googling” your
name to see what comes up; whatever you          Take a step back and evaluate your voicemail     While these mistakes can lose a student
see can be seen by employers.                    greeting. Ivey says that 90% of the voicemail    a prospective job, they are fixable. The
                                                 greetings she hears make poor impressions.       old adage “practice makes perfect” may
In the hustle and bustle of school, many         Potential employers do not want to hear          be cliché, but in this case, it is true.
students fail to do one important thing:         your favorite song of the day blaring in         Ivey encourages students to practice
utilize their networks. Ivey suggests sitting    their ears or your voice shouting the latest     interviewing. Enlist the help of a roommate,
back and compiling a list of all the people      catch phrase. Remember the Budweiser-            friend, or family member who has had
you know. Think about it. If you include         generated “whassup” craze? As entertaining       experience with interviews, and have him
all your friends, schoolmates, professors,       as it may be to you, recruiters do not want to   or her conduct a mock-interview with you.
friends’ parents, parents’ friends, etc.,        hear that screamed into their ears as they       Once the “interview” is over, have him or her
your list will be substantially longer than      wait to leave you voicemail messages.            give you feedback on details such as voice
you expect. Let these people know you are                                                         pitch, body language, and ability to answer
                                                 Keeping things simple seems to be best           questions about yourself. If you don’t have
looking for a job. Remember the concept
                                                 when it comes to voicemail greetings. A          anyone who can help you, break out the
of “six degrees of separation”? Someone
                                                 good greeting includes a simple hello, your      camcorder and record yourself talking. Once
directly in your social network may know a
                                                 name, and a request for the caller to leave a    you’re done recording, go back and watch for
person who knows a person who can help
                                                 message. If all else fails, most cell phones     mistakes or areas where you can improve.
you along on your career path.
                                                 and business phones have a feature that
                                                 allows you to simply state your name; an         Students must also be flexible and patient
Many students forget the value of two
                                                 automated recording will tell the caller that    when it comes to finding jobs. Graduating
simple but very important words: thank you.
                                                 you are unavailable and request that he          from law school does not mean you will
According to Ivey, if someone goes above and
                                                 or she leave a message. When answering           automatically be offered a job. The process
beyond in helping you with your job search,
                                                 a phone call from a potential employer,          sometimes requires you to search for
send him or her a short email expressing
                                                 remember that location is pivotal. If you        months before you get an offer.
your gratitude and promising to stay in touch.
                                                 are at a loud game or somewhere else that
After an interview, ask your interviewer for
                                                 makes it difficult to carry on a conversation,
a business card, and send an email thanking                                                       ON THE NET
                                                 let the call go to voicemail.
him or her for taking the time to meet with
you. Students often forget their childhood                                                        Anna Ivey
                                                 Why do so many people make these
lessons in manners, and being polite is a                                                         www.annaivey.com
                                                 mistakes? Although much of Ivey’s advice
very simple way to stand out amongst the
                                                 may seem like common sense, interviews
pool of applicants.                                                                               The Ivey Files
                                                 are nerve-wracking ordeals, and common
                                                                                                  www.iveyfiles.com
                                                 sense often goes right out the door.
Telephone etiquette is another major factor
when it comes to landing your first job.                                                          The Definitive Budweiser Whassup Pages
                                                 “Interviewing is scary and uncomfortable.
When giving a recruiter or interviewer your                                                       www.bud-true.com
                                                 It’s a learnable skill, and with practice,




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Common Mistakes Can Equal Disaster at Job Interviews

  • 1. FEATURE www.lawcrossing.com 1. 800.973.1177 Common Mistakes Can Equal Disaster at Job Interviews [By Heather Jung] After three years of pulling all-nighters, cramming for tests, seemingly endless classes, and preparing for the bar exam, law students finally find themselves in what can only be referred to as “the real world.” While some students may be offered jobs based on their internships, others will have to scramble to find jobs in which they can put their years of hard work to use. Admissions and career counselor and former glean by trolling employer websites, but so not know about. Hobbies are great things Dean of Admissions for University of Chicago many applicants don’t even take the time to mention on your resume because they Law School Anna Ivey said that there are to do that. Another resource is to talk to give the interviewer a more personal sense certain mistakes that a majority of students fellow students and alums who have worked of who you are and what really makes you seem to make when applying for jobs at law there, because they have firsthand and inside excited. If you are genuinely interested in firms, and these mistakes can cost otherwise knowledge about those employers.” something, put it on there. However, do not qualified and intelligent students the jobs list things on your resume that you are only they were after. The third error students often make is mildly interested in or do not feel qualified to underselling themselves. First-time job talk about. The first mistake students often make is not seekers often fail to list previous jobs and letting their personalities shine through. activities, as well as to explain or put into “You can’t just throw stuff in there According to Ivey, students can be lifeless context various accomplishments. According that looks impressive,” Ivey said. “The and too “safe” when talking to interviewers. to Ivey, students often assume “too much whole point of doing that is to give the knowledge on the part of the interviewer.” interviewer something to grab onto to get “So many job applicants sit there like There are hundreds of awards, scholarships, the conversation rolling, and they are going bumps on a log, and you have to pity these and organizations that interviewers have to want to talk to you about that stuff. So interviewers who have to conduct back-to- never heard of. anything that you put on your resume is back interview sessions for eight hours a day absolutely fair game, and you should be “Ultimately, the reader should understand with applicants who don’t engage them at prepared to talk for 30 seconds about for every entry what the significance of the all or express any signs of life. That’s a very anything you put on there.” award or achievement is, and often that’s not common [mistake],” Ivey said. self-explanatory,” Ivey said. On her website, Ivey lists five other mistakes Failing to research the company one is students tend to make when applying for jobs. On the other side of the coin, students often interviewing with is another common go into too much detail regarding jobs that downfall for students. Employers like She says that parents are often too involved are not related to their careers. applicants to do their research and know in their children’s lives. In most instances, a little bit about the companies they are parental involvement is not a bad thing, but “Another common problem is that many law applying to work for. When applying for a when it comes to a job interview, advice from school students haven’t had very glamorous job, find out background information about parents should be kept to a minimum. jobs before law school, and that’s fine, but the company, who it represents, who its then they shouldn’t describe in great detail competitors are, the work it is proudest “You’ll stand out from the pack as what they did (which is often pretty clerical), of, and all other relevant details you can exceptionally mature and professional if you but rather, they should focus on what they uncover. keep your parents’ advice entirely behind the learned or observed, or what kinds of larger scenes; recruiters shouldn’t experience any projects or deals they were able to work on, “Winging it might work if you’re a superstar direct involvement by your parents.” even if their role was a small one,” Ivey said. in your class, but everyone else should do a lot of homework before walking into an The fourth mistake is listing hobbies and With the growing MySpace phenomenon, interview. It’s amazing how much you can interests on your resume that you really do potential employers are using the website PAGE continued on back
  • 2. FEATURE www.lawcrossing.com 1. 800.973.1177 as a hiring tool. Ivey advises job seekers to phone number, provide the number at which anyone can become better at it. I also think never post things on their MySpace pages it is easiest to reach you. Most likely, this laziness plays a role; it is human nature,” that they would not want potential employers number will be your cell phone number. said Ivey. to see. She also says to try “Googling” your name to see what comes up; whatever you Take a step back and evaluate your voicemail While these mistakes can lose a student see can be seen by employers. greeting. Ivey says that 90% of the voicemail a prospective job, they are fixable. The greetings she hears make poor impressions. old adage “practice makes perfect” may In the hustle and bustle of school, many Potential employers do not want to hear be cliché, but in this case, it is true. students fail to do one important thing: your favorite song of the day blaring in Ivey encourages students to practice utilize their networks. Ivey suggests sitting their ears or your voice shouting the latest interviewing. Enlist the help of a roommate, back and compiling a list of all the people catch phrase. Remember the Budweiser- friend, or family member who has had you know. Think about it. If you include generated “whassup” craze? As entertaining experience with interviews, and have him all your friends, schoolmates, professors, as it may be to you, recruiters do not want to or her conduct a mock-interview with you. friends’ parents, parents’ friends, etc., hear that screamed into their ears as they Once the “interview” is over, have him or her your list will be substantially longer than wait to leave you voicemail messages. give you feedback on details such as voice you expect. Let these people know you are pitch, body language, and ability to answer Keeping things simple seems to be best questions about yourself. If you don’t have looking for a job. Remember the concept when it comes to voicemail greetings. A anyone who can help you, break out the of “six degrees of separation”? Someone good greeting includes a simple hello, your camcorder and record yourself talking. Once directly in your social network may know a name, and a request for the caller to leave a you’re done recording, go back and watch for person who knows a person who can help message. If all else fails, most cell phones mistakes or areas where you can improve. you along on your career path. and business phones have a feature that allows you to simply state your name; an Students must also be flexible and patient Many students forget the value of two automated recording will tell the caller that when it comes to finding jobs. Graduating simple but very important words: thank you. you are unavailable and request that he from law school does not mean you will According to Ivey, if someone goes above and or she leave a message. When answering automatically be offered a job. The process beyond in helping you with your job search, a phone call from a potential employer, sometimes requires you to search for send him or her a short email expressing remember that location is pivotal. If you months before you get an offer. your gratitude and promising to stay in touch. are at a loud game or somewhere else that After an interview, ask your interviewer for makes it difficult to carry on a conversation, a business card, and send an email thanking ON THE NET let the call go to voicemail. him or her for taking the time to meet with you. Students often forget their childhood Anna Ivey Why do so many people make these lessons in manners, and being polite is a www.annaivey.com mistakes? Although much of Ivey’s advice very simple way to stand out amongst the may seem like common sense, interviews pool of applicants. The Ivey Files are nerve-wracking ordeals, and common www.iveyfiles.com sense often goes right out the door. Telephone etiquette is another major factor when it comes to landing your first job. The Definitive Budweiser Whassup Pages “Interviewing is scary and uncomfortable. When giving a recruiter or interviewer your www.bud-true.com It’s a learnable skill, and with practice, PAGE