Oct22 m04 g's notes on her conversation with l. canty

1. OCT. 24, 2004
TO: MICHAEL BAUM
RE; SMLLC v REDMOND et al.
INTRODUCTION TO ROUGH NOTES OF CONVERSATION GERALDINE HAD WITH LAURIE
CANTY ON OCTOBER 7, 2004. (CELLPHONE TO LC HOME 7.35 p.m. to 8.10 p.m.)(WHILE SOME OF IT
IS PERSONAL, GERALDINE HAS LEFT IT IN SO THAT WE CAN FEEL THE WARM RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE TWO).
LAURIE CANTY WAS THE BIG BOARDER WITH 20-30 HORSES IN THE FACILITY. SHE TURNED
AGAINST GERALDINE, STAYED ON AT THE FACILITY AFTER GERALDINE LEFT, AND IS SG’S
MAIN WITNESS IN COMING TRIALS (VENTURA AND C7).
1. LAURIE SAID , “NO HARD FEELINGS TO YOU, JAY(GERALDINE). YOU WERE FORCED
INTO A CORNER. YOU HAD NO CHOICE; HE WAS GOING TO DESTROY YOU, NO
MATTER WHAT.”
2. LUIS (VICENTE’S COUSIN) WAS RUNNING THE EQUESTRIAN CENTER, TRACTORS,
WATERING, FEED, ETC., AND LIVING AT SG’S OFFICE IN A TRAILER WITH NO
UTILITIES. I GAVE HIM A COUCH AND TABLE BEFORE I LEFT. LAURIE KNEW HE WAS
UNHAPPY AND WAS LOOKING FOR ANOTHER PLACE TO MOVE TO, SO SHE WAS
HELPING HIM TO FIND ANOTHER JOB. HE STARTED TO SLIDE IN HIS WORK AND NOT
DOING A GOOD JOB. SHE LET IT GO, AND THEN IT GOT SERIOUS SO SHE CALLED
COLLEEN (SG’S FIANCEE). SHE SAID THINGS WERE JUST GETTING A LITTLE
SLOPPY…IF YOU CAN WORK ON IT IT WOULD BE GOOD. COLLEEN VERY UPSET AT
LAURIE, AND SAID, “YOU SHOULD HAVE SAID SOMETHING EARLIER. THIS IS YOUR
FAULT; YOU SHOULD HAVE BROUGHT IT UP AND NOT LEFT IT TOO LONG.” LAURIE
SAID SHE DID NOT WANT TO BECAUSE SHE COULD NOT DEAL WITH SG, AND JUST

2. STAYED OUT OF THE WAY, AND ALL CLIENTS AVOIDED HIM, OR WERE SICKLY POLITE
TO AVOID ANY PROBLEMS. LAURIE SAID HER ASSISTANT, STEPHANIE, DID ALL
TALKING AND NEGOTIATIONS ALWAYS, SO LAURIE COULD STAY OUT OF IT.
SG SOON CAME UP TO EQUESTRIAN CENTER IN A RAGE, WITH CONTRACT IN HAND.
HE WAS SHAKING IT AT LAURIE, YELLING AT HER THAT HE HAD TO FIRE LUIS, AND IT
WAS ALL HER FAULT, AND THROWING A FIT ABOUT HER BEING THERE ON MONDAY
AND FRIDAY, WHEN SHE WAS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE THERE, AND SHE USED TOO MUCH
WATER, AND SHE AND HER BOARDERS HAD TO CUT BACK.
SO SHE WAS UPSET AND GOES “WHATEVER”..AND TURNED TO WALK AWAY FROM
HIM, AND THEN STOPPED, WALKED BACK TO HIM AND SAID, “WAIT A MINUTE…IT IS
NOT MY FAULT YOU FIRED LUIS. I JUST MENTIONED HIS WORK WAS SLOPPY. I DID
NOT SAY TO FIRE HIM,” NEXT DAY, LUIS WAS GONE. HE WAS SUPPOSED TO STAY
UNTIL REPLACEMENT. SO ONE DAY HORSES NOT CARED FOR, AND SHE WAS MAD, AND
FOUND OUT THAT SG. IN A RAGE, HAD ATTACKED LUIS,AND ACTUALLY HIT HIM
UNTIL HE WAS KNOCKED OUT. LUIS GOT HIS STUFF IN A CAR WITH HIS PREGNANT
WIFE, AND WENT TO MEXICO THAT NIGHT. SO NO-ONE TOOK CARE OF THE HORSES
NEXT MORNING. SO STEVE GAVE LAURIE A 30 DAY NOTICE RIGHT THEN…ANGRY.
3. COLLEEN’S BABY JUST TURNED 1 YEAR AND SHE IS ABOUT TO HAVE TWINS. SHE IS
VERY STRESSED AND WORRIED, AND LAURIE THINKS IT DOES NOT SOUND LIKE
COLLEEN IS DOING GOOD.

3. 4. LAURIE SAID HER LEASE IS A 30-DAY CONTRACT MONTH TO MONTH, AND KNEW NOT
TO GET INTO ANYTHING AFTER MY EXPERIENCE. SHE PAID DEPOSITS, AND DOES NOT
KNOW IF SHE WILL GET THEM BACK.
5. LAURIE IS ABOUT TO MOVE, BUT CANNOT FIND A PLACE. SHE FOUND ONE ON
CANADA RD IN OJAI…A FIREMAN NAMED LEONARD SAID HE WOULD BUILD HER A
BARN AND ARENA. SHE FOUND ONE IN MOORPARK AND ASKED TED ROBINSON IF SHE
COULD MOVE IN. SHE SAID SHE HAS NO IDEA WHERE TO GO, AND HER CLIENTS ARE
UNHAPPY BECAUSE THEY FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE ON THE PROPERTY RIGHT NOW
AND UNWELCOME, AND WANT TO GET OUT.
6. A DRESSAGE TRAINER NAMED LINDA HAD A FULL BARN AND GAVE NOTICE ABOUT
LEAVING ABOUT ONE MONTH AGO. SHE JUST LEFT.
7. A FOREMAN NAMED STEVE FROM RANCHO ROYALE ( 15 YEARS FOREMAN) WAS
RECOMMENDED BY LAURIE TO TAKE HARVEY’S JOB. HE WORKED 2 WEEKS, STEVE
TREATED HIM LIKE A DOG, CALLED HIM NAMES, DEMEANED HIM AND TOLD HIM HE
WAS STUPID OVER AND OVER AGAIN. THE MAN WAS IN TEARS EVERY DAY AND LEFT
AFTER 2 WEEKS. WHEN HE HAD MOVED IN, HE VOLUNTEERED TO PAINT HIS NEW
LITTLE HOUSE WITH HIS OWN MONEY. WHEN HE LEFT, STEVE WALKED THROUGH HIS
HOUSE AND SAID, “YOU HAVE TO RE-DO EVERYTHING…IT IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH FOR
ME”. THE GUY WAS VERY SCARED AND UPSET. I DON’T KNOW WHERE HE IS NOW. I
WILL FIND OUT AT THE FEED STORE, AND GET HIS WHOLE NAME.

4. 8. WHEN LAURIE DROVE IN TODAY (10/7) WITH A HORSE TRAILER, CHATFIELD
FOLLOWED HER FROM THE OFFICE UP TO THE EQUESTRIAN CENTER AND WATCHED
HER, AND THEN WENT BACK TO HIS OFFICE. JUST LIKE HE DID TO ME.
9. STEVE SAID THE BARN WAS FRESHLY PAINTED WHEN SHE CAME IN……BIG LIE. IT
WAS DONE 4 YEARS BEFORE ME, AND IT WAS WORN/PEELING/FADED FOR ME. HE
TOLD HER SHE HAD TO GET IT PAINTED, AND IF ANY MISTAKES, OR HE’S NOT HAPPY,
HE WILL HAVE TO TELL HER TO RE-DO IT. SHE SAID, “YOU HAVE TO BE KIDDING”. HE
SAID THAT THE PAINTERS WILL BE LIABLE IF IT’S NOT THE RIGHT COLOR WHEN
FINISHED. SHE SAID, ‘YOU AGREE ON THE COLOR BEFORE YOU PAINT IT.” HE SAID, “I
WILL MAKE THE PAINTER LIABLE AND RE-PAINT IT IF I’M NOT HAPPY.”
10.SHE SAID SHE HARBORS NO HARD FEELINGS FOR ME, AND SHE IS SO SORRY IT’S STILL
GOING ON. SHE WOULD LIKE TO HELP, AND IF SHE CAN DO ANYTHING, TO JUST ASK
HER. ALSO, IF SHE DID GET INTO EMERGENCY SHE WOULD CALL ME.