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Thought Leader Interview: Allen Podraza on Records 
Management 
By Iver Band 
August, 2014 
Allen Podraza is a Certified Information Professional who believes 
that organizations benefit from developing a strategy for managing 
their information. He serves as the Director of Records Management 
& Archives for the American Medical Association in Chicago. He is 
an active member of a number of professional associations 
including the Association for Information and Image Management 
(AIIM), ARMA International and the Society of American Archivists 
(SAA), and has advised organizations on the development and 
administration of records management and archive programs. He 
also provides a wealth of “How To” advice though his blog, posts, 
and tweets. 
This interview uses the Architecture Development Method (ADM) of The Open Group 
Architecture Framework (TOGAF®) as a template for interviewing Allen Podraza. As 
shown in the figure below, the ADM cycle focuses successively on the establishment of an 
architecture capability, the development of an architecture, planning for the transition to the 
new architecture, and architecture governance. Allen has responded to this unusual 
interview format with expert advice relevant to all aspects of the architecture lifecycle. At 
the beginning of all interview questions except the first and last, the most relevant TOGAF 
ADM phases are identified and hyperlinked in square brackets. For more information 
about the TOGAF ADM, refer to its introduction within the online TOGAF specification, and 
click on the hyperlinks to ADM phase documentation in the questions below. 
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EAPJ: How do you define "records" and "records management"? 
AP: Records are recorded information regardless of medium. They are made or received 
by an organization. Records are evidence of what an organization does, and have value 
requiring their retention. They are retained by organizations to meet legal, fiscal, historical 
and operational requirements. 
Records management, also known as records and information management (RIM), is the 
systematic control of records in all mediums throughout their lifecycle from point of creation 
or receipt through processing, distribution, maintenance and retrieval to their eventual 
disposal. To learn more about RIM visit the ARMA International website. 
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EAPJ: [Preliminary] Are there any concise principles that should guide the 
development of records management capabilities? 
AP: A couple of great resources for developing and designing a comprehensive and 
effective records management program are the Generally Accepted Recordkeeping 
Principles, created by ARMA International and ISO 15489, Information and 
documentation – Records Management by the International Organization for 
Standardization 
EAPJ: [Preliminary] Which organizational roles should be involved in governing the 
management of records? 
AP: An executive records management program sponsor who is a senior vice­president 
or 
chief executive officer, and key stakeholders from records management, legal, information 
technology, compliance and other key business groups need to meet regularly to provide 
program governance, strategic guidance and support. 
EAPJ: [A] When you hear of plans for a new organizational initiative, such as offering a 
new product or service, or entering a new market, what are some of the questions you ask 
to uncover the records management implications? 
AP: I would ask: 
● Have you checked to see if such an initiative has been attempted in the past and if 
so, what was or was not successful? For some organizations this information would 
be found in their archives. 
● What records management regulations and industry standards need to be 
considered in entering a new market? 
● What records will be generated by this new initiative and need to be incorporated 
into the records retention schedule, what office will be responsible for maintaining 
the official records (Office of Record) and how long will records be retained? 
● What technology will be used to generate, retain and manage the records? 
● If it is a merger, does the merger contract discuss how records from the company 
being acquired will be handled? 
● How will this new initiative impact the records management staff workload, budget, 
etc.? 
EAPJ: [B] What new or strengthened organizational structures and processes must 
organizations consider when they plan new records management capabilities? 
AP: Records managers and enterprise architects should collaborate in working with 
business units to identify records and systems to manage those records according to 
established records management policies. Records management policies and retention 
requirements must be linked to the relevant business processes and related technology. 
Records managers can contribute to both the business and data layers of enterprise 
architecture. The functional analysis conducted by the records management organization in 
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developing the records retention schedule will closely match the business layer of the 
enterprise architecture. The records management organization is also familiar with the 
records of an organization, including vital records for business continuity/disaster recovery 
programs, which has value to enterprise architects building the data layer of their 
architectures. 
EAPJ: [C] What information standards must an organization adopt in order to manage 
records successfully? 
AP: Relevant information privacy and security standards related to their industry, as well as 
the broadly applicable ARMA Standards, AIIM Standards, and ISO Standards . 
EAPJ: [D] How should organizations decide whether to keep records onsite or offsite, and 
online or offline? 
AP: Before organizations can decide where and how records should be stored, 
consideration should be given to whether records are active or inactive, vital, and public or 
private. They should also consider what laws and regulations relate to records 
management cost, security and risks to the organization. Organizations should also 
consider their internal climate regarding records management. 
Online access can be provided for most records but security provisions must be in place 
for records that are private and regulated. 
It is a good idea to send inactive hard copy records offsite rather than having them take up 
valuable office space. 
Copies of vital records should be maintained offsite, eliminating the time and effort it will 
take to reconstruct this critical information in the case of disaster. 
EAPJ: [E] What are some of the most important benefit elements of a typical business 
case for a records management solution? What are some benefits that organizations may 
overlook? 
AP: There are many benefits to records management but as William Saffady, Ph.D. 
explains in his article Making the Business Case for Records Management, they all boil 
down to your organization minimizing risks, reducing costs and increasing revenues. 
Sometimes organizations overlook the benefits of preserving their historical records in 
archives. 
EAPJ: [F] What are some of the most common mistakes organizations make when 
planning records management implementations, and how can they be avoided? 
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● Not including stakeholders in the process of developing the record retention 
schedule, the foundation of the RIM program. Record users want to know their views 
are considered, and when they are, they are more apt to support the program. 
● Attempting to manage all aspects of the program in­house. 
Outside resources such 
as record centers, digital vendors and consultants should be used whenever 
appropriate. 
● Not enough staff training. In addition to the application of best practices, employees 
need initial and ongoing training on how to adhere to records retention and 
destruction policies 
● Thinking that once the program is launched that the job is done. Someone in the 
organization needs to be assigned the responsibility to manage and maintain the 
program. 
● Organizations storing their records on a server only. Server storage of records is not 
equivalent to storing records in a data repository which performs records 
management functions based on the document lifecycle. 
EAPJ: [G,H] What are some signs that a records management implementation may be 
going off­track, 
and how should project leaders address them? 
AP: A couple of signs that the records management program is not working are that it is 
difficult locating records for e­discovery 
or that many employees are not retaining and 
disposing of records according to established policies. In these cases, leaders need to 
revisit training, and the technology or lack of technology being used in the program. Not all 
users have the time with their busy work schedules to learn and implement document 
retention policies. Without automation, retention strategy is prone to human error. 
EAPJ: As a records management veteran, what accomplishments do you treasure most, 
and what do you find most rewarding about working in this field? 
AP: Hands down the accomplishments I most treasure are developing the Records and 
Archives Management Programs at the American Medical Association. AMA's core 
archival records are now readily accessible and used by physicians throughout the country 
and internally AMA staff are working paper­light 
and are applying and understanding best 
records management practices more each day. 
I love continuing to learn about managing information and working through today's RIM 
challenges. I find it very rewarding solving problems, analyzing, improving and streamlining 
processes, and identifying opportunities to save money. I also find it extremely rewarding to 
give back to my profession by providing advice to those trying to figure out how to better 
manage their information, and to those new to the profession. 
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© 2014, EAPJ.org
About the Interviewer 
Iver Band is a practicing enterprise architect and a developer and communicator of 
enterprise architecture standards and methods. At Cambia Health Solutions, a health 
insurer and direct health solutions company, he shapes solutions that promote 
accountability, quality and efficiency in health care delivery. Iver also serves as Director of 
Enterprise and Solution Architecture for EA Principals, a training and consulting firm, for 
which he works with clients, develops curriculum materials, and edits the Enterprise 
Architecture Professional Journal and EAPJ.org. Iver represents EA Principals in the 
Open Group, where he is the elected Vice Chair of The ArchiMate Forum. 
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Thought Leader Interview: Allen Podraza on Records Management

  • 1. Thought Leader Interview: Allen Podraza on Records Management By Iver Band August, 2014 Allen Podraza is a Certified Information Professional who believes that organizations benefit from developing a strategy for managing their information. He serves as the Director of Records Management & Archives for the American Medical Association in Chicago. He is an active member of a number of professional associations including the Association for Information and Image Management (AIIM), ARMA International and the Society of American Archivists (SAA), and has advised organizations on the development and administration of records management and archive programs. He also provides a wealth of “How To” advice though his blog, posts, and tweets. This interview uses the Architecture Development Method (ADM) of The Open Group Architecture Framework (TOGAF®) as a template for interviewing Allen Podraza. As shown in the figure below, the ADM cycle focuses successively on the establishment of an architecture capability, the development of an architecture, planning for the transition to the new architecture, and architecture governance. Allen has responded to this unusual interview format with expert advice relevant to all aspects of the architecture lifecycle. At the beginning of all interview questions except the first and last, the most relevant TOGAF ADM phases are identified and hyperlinked in square brackets. For more information about the TOGAF ADM, refer to its introduction within the online TOGAF specification, and click on the hyperlinks to ADM phase documentation in the questions below. Page 1 of 6 © 2014, EAPJ.org
  • 2. EAPJ: How do you define "records" and "records management"? AP: Records are recorded information regardless of medium. They are made or received by an organization. Records are evidence of what an organization does, and have value requiring their retention. They are retained by organizations to meet legal, fiscal, historical and operational requirements. Records management, also known as records and information management (RIM), is the systematic control of records in all mediums throughout their lifecycle from point of creation or receipt through processing, distribution, maintenance and retrieval to their eventual disposal. To learn more about RIM visit the ARMA International website. Page 2 of 6 © 2014, EAPJ.org
  • 3. EAPJ: [Preliminary] Are there any concise principles that should guide the development of records management capabilities? AP: A couple of great resources for developing and designing a comprehensive and effective records management program are the Generally Accepted Recordkeeping Principles, created by ARMA International and ISO 15489, Information and documentation – Records Management by the International Organization for Standardization EAPJ: [Preliminary] Which organizational roles should be involved in governing the management of records? AP: An executive records management program sponsor who is a senior vice­president or chief executive officer, and key stakeholders from records management, legal, information technology, compliance and other key business groups need to meet regularly to provide program governance, strategic guidance and support. EAPJ: [A] When you hear of plans for a new organizational initiative, such as offering a new product or service, or entering a new market, what are some of the questions you ask to uncover the records management implications? AP: I would ask: ● Have you checked to see if such an initiative has been attempted in the past and if so, what was or was not successful? For some organizations this information would be found in their archives. ● What records management regulations and industry standards need to be considered in entering a new market? ● What records will be generated by this new initiative and need to be incorporated into the records retention schedule, what office will be responsible for maintaining the official records (Office of Record) and how long will records be retained? ● What technology will be used to generate, retain and manage the records? ● If it is a merger, does the merger contract discuss how records from the company being acquired will be handled? ● How will this new initiative impact the records management staff workload, budget, etc.? EAPJ: [B] What new or strengthened organizational structures and processes must organizations consider when they plan new records management capabilities? AP: Records managers and enterprise architects should collaborate in working with business units to identify records and systems to manage those records according to established records management policies. Records management policies and retention requirements must be linked to the relevant business processes and related technology. Records managers can contribute to both the business and data layers of enterprise architecture. The functional analysis conducted by the records management organization in Page 3 of 6 © 2014, EAPJ.org
  • 4. developing the records retention schedule will closely match the business layer of the enterprise architecture. The records management organization is also familiar with the records of an organization, including vital records for business continuity/disaster recovery programs, which has value to enterprise architects building the data layer of their architectures. EAPJ: [C] What information standards must an organization adopt in order to manage records successfully? AP: Relevant information privacy and security standards related to their industry, as well as the broadly applicable ARMA Standards, AIIM Standards, and ISO Standards . EAPJ: [D] How should organizations decide whether to keep records onsite or offsite, and online or offline? AP: Before organizations can decide where and how records should be stored, consideration should be given to whether records are active or inactive, vital, and public or private. They should also consider what laws and regulations relate to records management cost, security and risks to the organization. Organizations should also consider their internal climate regarding records management. Online access can be provided for most records but security provisions must be in place for records that are private and regulated. It is a good idea to send inactive hard copy records offsite rather than having them take up valuable office space. Copies of vital records should be maintained offsite, eliminating the time and effort it will take to reconstruct this critical information in the case of disaster. EAPJ: [E] What are some of the most important benefit elements of a typical business case for a records management solution? What are some benefits that organizations may overlook? AP: There are many benefits to records management but as William Saffady, Ph.D. explains in his article Making the Business Case for Records Management, they all boil down to your organization minimizing risks, reducing costs and increasing revenues. Sometimes organizations overlook the benefits of preserving their historical records in archives. EAPJ: [F] What are some of the most common mistakes organizations make when planning records management implementations, and how can they be avoided? Page 4 of 6 © 2014, EAPJ.org
  • 5. ● Not including stakeholders in the process of developing the record retention schedule, the foundation of the RIM program. Record users want to know their views are considered, and when they are, they are more apt to support the program. ● Attempting to manage all aspects of the program in­house. Outside resources such as record centers, digital vendors and consultants should be used whenever appropriate. ● Not enough staff training. In addition to the application of best practices, employees need initial and ongoing training on how to adhere to records retention and destruction policies ● Thinking that once the program is launched that the job is done. Someone in the organization needs to be assigned the responsibility to manage and maintain the program. ● Organizations storing their records on a server only. Server storage of records is not equivalent to storing records in a data repository which performs records management functions based on the document lifecycle. EAPJ: [G,H] What are some signs that a records management implementation may be going off­track, and how should project leaders address them? AP: A couple of signs that the records management program is not working are that it is difficult locating records for e­discovery or that many employees are not retaining and disposing of records according to established policies. In these cases, leaders need to revisit training, and the technology or lack of technology being used in the program. Not all users have the time with their busy work schedules to learn and implement document retention policies. Without automation, retention strategy is prone to human error. EAPJ: As a records management veteran, what accomplishments do you treasure most, and what do you find most rewarding about working in this field? AP: Hands down the accomplishments I most treasure are developing the Records and Archives Management Programs at the American Medical Association. AMA's core archival records are now readily accessible and used by physicians throughout the country and internally AMA staff are working paper­light and are applying and understanding best records management practices more each day. I love continuing to learn about managing information and working through today's RIM challenges. I find it very rewarding solving problems, analyzing, improving and streamlining processes, and identifying opportunities to save money. I also find it extremely rewarding to give back to my profession by providing advice to those trying to figure out how to better manage their information, and to those new to the profession. Page 5 of 6 © 2014, EAPJ.org
  • 6. About the Interviewer Iver Band is a practicing enterprise architect and a developer and communicator of enterprise architecture standards and methods. At Cambia Health Solutions, a health insurer and direct health solutions company, he shapes solutions that promote accountability, quality and efficiency in health care delivery. Iver also serves as Director of Enterprise and Solution Architecture for EA Principals, a training and consulting firm, for which he works with clients, develops curriculum materials, and edits the Enterprise Architecture Professional Journal and EAPJ.org. Iver represents EA Principals in the Open Group, where he is the elected Vice Chair of The ArchiMate Forum. Page 6 of 6 © 2014, EAPJ.org