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Folksbay.com

YOUR PERSONAL SHOPPING NETS



              DisRaptor Team
Stanford Technology Entrepreneurship Class
            folks@folksbay.com




               June, 2012
Session 1 Summary

1.   Start with a limited set of product categories, preferably those with
     high frequency of purchase
2.   Think of how to identify those with an intention to buy
3.   Limit the number of options recommended along the select product
4.   Identify what are the sources that can be used to come up with top 3
     product recs
5.   What is the minimum viable product? Consider starting from product
     curation
6.   How do you get first customers? Why would they come? Who/what
     will drive them?
7.   Affiliate commissions are tiny – how many users do we need to
     break-even?
Product categories to start with

● We think of starting from
  product categories, which
  promise healthy growth rates
  while being less exposed to
  competition:
  1. Apparel & accessories
  2. Home furnishings
  3. Toys and hobby


● We still need more than one
  category - to capture reasonable
  range of interests and keep some
  variety
Identify the intention to buy

 Hypothesis: the users who come
  from Google search results are
  more likely to buy than those who
  come from social networking sites
  (the two sources seem are top
  traffic contributors for many sites)
 Why: in more than half of cases
  intentional shopping starts from
  Google search (check..)
 Implications: use Google ads as a
  preferred tool to gains conversions    Alexa.com

  (?)
Sources of recommendations

 Looks like there are not many         Product review site                         Monthly
  really popular product review sites                                               visitors
                                        consumerreports.org                               3.4M
 In addition to those which
  position as “review” sites, we        reviews.cnet.com                                  3.1M
  found our that digital media (e.g.
  wired.com) and the Amazon itself      epinions.com                                      2.5M
  are other very important sources
  of product reviews                    consumersearch.com                                1.9M

                                        retrevo.com                                    940K
 We will also seek whether
  recommendation sites provide          http://techpp.com/2009/03/02/top-10-product-review-websites/

  API, so we can use it automatically   http://mashable.com/2008/07/18/product-reviews/

  (at least ratings)
Any idea what’s wrong with Wize.com?

                              Product curation site
                              Not many users and
                               decreasing
                              Still good downstream
                               referral rate, Amazon
                               being top-2 destination
                               after Google, with 12.4%
                               share (Alexa)




                                         Alexa.com
Minimum viable product

  Value proposition:                  Minimum viable (discuss):

 Personalized and curated             Personalized and curated
  product feeds                         product feeds. +Limited number
                                        of product categories

 Only best-priced offers available    Only best-priced offers available
  for delivery to your location         for delivery to your location

 Only the most reputable shops        Only the most reputable shops

 Sharing your likes and purchases     Sharing your likes and purchases
  with friends                          with friends

 Premium membership to earn           Premium membership to earn
  personal revenue                      personal revenue
How do we get first customers

 We are thinking of the way to make our customers try and get curious what was
  that service that managed to make them a bit happier. That is, first experience, then
  attribution. We have discussed several ideas, dropped a couple, and left two for
  further discussion:

 Seamless Facebook fan acquisition. Facebook already provides customer
  filtering possibility through its ad platform. It can be well enough to approach
  narrow groups of customers with offerings they are likely to "Like". Seamless: we
  create a feed of selected products on our Facebook page, advertise the page with
  product image, so if a customer likes a product, s/he becomes our fan (need a
  feasibility check). Once we have fans, we’ll have some customer base to work with
  and we can target that particular customer sample directly with our value
  proposition and drive them to our site

 "Social network" for goods. What if goods "liked" their buyers (and probably
  other goods, thus creating relationships used for suggestions). So far, we have no
  idea how to implement this, but the mere fact of goods liking people might draw
  enough attention to our startup
Tiny affiliate commissions

 We are working on the revenue model now. A very rough estimate
  based on 4% revenue sharing (Amazon pays 4-15%) suggests we need to
  generate $25mn in online sales to cover a $1mn cash cost with affiliate
  commissions. Is it feasible? We think it is, given that US e-commerce
  sales amount to almost $200bn

 Another thing that gives us some comfort is that the affiliate e-
  commerce model is not something new (we list some of the peers in this
  presentation)

 To address the “break-even point” issue, we also need to understand
  our costs, which is even harder than evaluate revenue potential. So
  working on the costs too
Additional slides
How it works


                    Folksbay.com

                 Matching engine
                                                  Referral
                                  Product
                                                   traffic
Customer preference
                                aggregation,
    processing
                                  curation

Personal information
Friends information
   Demographic, social,                        CJ, SkimLinks, etc.
cultural and economic data
Market size
Top-down approach                                         Bottom-up approach:
 US 2011 online ad market: $32bn                          US comparison shopping
       Display ad: 35%                                     cumulative monthly visitors (top-5
           Performance-based: 65%                          sites): 60mn
             Retail: 22%                                  Assuming:
 Intersection: $1.6bn (5.1% of                                It’s only 1/5 of global referral traffic
  online ad market)                                            1 click a month per visitor
 2014: $2.6bn (c.60% 3y growth)                               5% conversion rate for shopping sites
   Based on 2011 actual data (PwC) and IAB projections    180mn purchases a year
                                                           At $20 avg check, it’s $3.6bn
                                                            revenue
                                                           Indirectly supported by estimates
                                                            of the “affiliate marketing”
                                                            spending mentioned in the articles
                                                            ($3-4bn)
                                                           Another check: Amazon min
                                                            commission of 4% times US e-
            See also Market size update at our              commerce sales of $195bn =
            venture-lab blog: http://venture-               $7.8bn
            lab.org/blog_posts/1682?team=50
            17&data_type=post
Peers – summary
$3bn aff market                                                $?? bn ad market



           Bizrate.com /
           Shopzilla.com, Pinterest.com,
            Nextag.com,       TheFancy.com,
                               Repinly.com,
             Smarter.com ,        Clipix.com, Sumally.com,
                                Wookmark.com, fffffound.com,
             Shopping.com,      Mistash.com, Gimmebar.com,
                                    Likabl.es, Lookk.com
           Pricegrabbler.com,
            Epinions.com...
Peers – Folksbay model

Mainly startups aiming at commercializing Pinterest
model
 Svpply.com [unique monthly visitors - 75k]
 Nuji.com [3k]
 Refer.ly (micro-affiliate model, startup)
Peers – Comparison shopping

E-commerce aggregators often referred to as “Smart
shopping” (they shouldn’t )
 Bizrate.com and Shopzilla.com [c.27m]
 Nextag.com [16m]
 Smarter.com [8m]
 Shopping.com (eBay company) [7m]
 Pricegrabbler.com [3m]
 Epinions.com [2m]
Peers – Bookmarking & Sharing

High concentration, still low competition
 Pinterest.com (pinned stuff) [20m]
 TheFancy.com (fancy stuff) [108k]
 Repinly.com (rated stuff) [47k]
 Clipix.com (clipped stuff) [5k]
 Sumally.com (all stuff) [1k]
 Others: Wookmark.com, fffffound.com, Mistash.com
  (pivoting), Gimmebar.com, Likabl.es, Lookk.com

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Folksbay pascal qa_1806

  • 1. Folksbay.com YOUR PERSONAL SHOPPING NETS DisRaptor Team Stanford Technology Entrepreneurship Class folks@folksbay.com June, 2012
  • 2. Session 1 Summary 1. Start with a limited set of product categories, preferably those with high frequency of purchase 2. Think of how to identify those with an intention to buy 3. Limit the number of options recommended along the select product 4. Identify what are the sources that can be used to come up with top 3 product recs 5. What is the minimum viable product? Consider starting from product curation 6. How do you get first customers? Why would they come? Who/what will drive them? 7. Affiliate commissions are tiny – how many users do we need to break-even?
  • 3. Product categories to start with ● We think of starting from product categories, which promise healthy growth rates while being less exposed to competition: 1. Apparel & accessories 2. Home furnishings 3. Toys and hobby ● We still need more than one category - to capture reasonable range of interests and keep some variety
  • 4. Identify the intention to buy  Hypothesis: the users who come from Google search results are more likely to buy than those who come from social networking sites (the two sources seem are top traffic contributors for many sites)  Why: in more than half of cases intentional shopping starts from Google search (check..)  Implications: use Google ads as a preferred tool to gains conversions Alexa.com (?)
  • 5. Sources of recommendations  Looks like there are not many Product review site Monthly really popular product review sites visitors consumerreports.org 3.4M  In addition to those which position as “review” sites, we reviews.cnet.com 3.1M found our that digital media (e.g. wired.com) and the Amazon itself epinions.com 2.5M are other very important sources of product reviews consumersearch.com 1.9M retrevo.com 940K  We will also seek whether recommendation sites provide http://techpp.com/2009/03/02/top-10-product-review-websites/ API, so we can use it automatically http://mashable.com/2008/07/18/product-reviews/ (at least ratings)
  • 6. Any idea what’s wrong with Wize.com?  Product curation site  Not many users and decreasing  Still good downstream referral rate, Amazon being top-2 destination after Google, with 12.4% share (Alexa) Alexa.com
  • 7. Minimum viable product Value proposition: Minimum viable (discuss):  Personalized and curated  Personalized and curated product feeds product feeds. +Limited number of product categories  Only best-priced offers available  Only best-priced offers available for delivery to your location for delivery to your location  Only the most reputable shops  Only the most reputable shops  Sharing your likes and purchases  Sharing your likes and purchases with friends with friends  Premium membership to earn  Premium membership to earn personal revenue personal revenue
  • 8. How do we get first customers  We are thinking of the way to make our customers try and get curious what was that service that managed to make them a bit happier. That is, first experience, then attribution. We have discussed several ideas, dropped a couple, and left two for further discussion:  Seamless Facebook fan acquisition. Facebook already provides customer filtering possibility through its ad platform. It can be well enough to approach narrow groups of customers with offerings they are likely to "Like". Seamless: we create a feed of selected products on our Facebook page, advertise the page with product image, so if a customer likes a product, s/he becomes our fan (need a feasibility check). Once we have fans, we’ll have some customer base to work with and we can target that particular customer sample directly with our value proposition and drive them to our site  "Social network" for goods. What if goods "liked" their buyers (and probably other goods, thus creating relationships used for suggestions). So far, we have no idea how to implement this, but the mere fact of goods liking people might draw enough attention to our startup
  • 9. Tiny affiliate commissions  We are working on the revenue model now. A very rough estimate based on 4% revenue sharing (Amazon pays 4-15%) suggests we need to generate $25mn in online sales to cover a $1mn cash cost with affiliate commissions. Is it feasible? We think it is, given that US e-commerce sales amount to almost $200bn  Another thing that gives us some comfort is that the affiliate e- commerce model is not something new (we list some of the peers in this presentation)  To address the “break-even point” issue, we also need to understand our costs, which is even harder than evaluate revenue potential. So working on the costs too
  • 11. How it works Folksbay.com Matching engine Referral Product traffic Customer preference aggregation, processing curation Personal information Friends information Demographic, social, CJ, SkimLinks, etc. cultural and economic data
  • 12. Market size Top-down approach Bottom-up approach:  US 2011 online ad market: $32bn  US comparison shopping  Display ad: 35% cumulative monthly visitors (top-5  Performance-based: 65% sites): 60mn  Retail: 22%  Assuming:  Intersection: $1.6bn (5.1% of  It’s only 1/5 of global referral traffic online ad market)  1 click a month per visitor  2014: $2.6bn (c.60% 3y growth)  5% conversion rate for shopping sites  Based on 2011 actual data (PwC) and IAB projections  180mn purchases a year  At $20 avg check, it’s $3.6bn revenue  Indirectly supported by estimates of the “affiliate marketing” spending mentioned in the articles ($3-4bn)  Another check: Amazon min commission of 4% times US e- See also Market size update at our commerce sales of $195bn = venture-lab blog: http://venture- $7.8bn lab.org/blog_posts/1682?team=50 17&data_type=post
  • 13. Peers – summary $3bn aff market $?? bn ad market Bizrate.com / Shopzilla.com, Pinterest.com, Nextag.com, TheFancy.com, Repinly.com, Smarter.com , Clipix.com, Sumally.com, Wookmark.com, fffffound.com, Shopping.com, Mistash.com, Gimmebar.com, Likabl.es, Lookk.com Pricegrabbler.com, Epinions.com...
  • 14. Peers – Folksbay model Mainly startups aiming at commercializing Pinterest model  Svpply.com [unique monthly visitors - 75k]  Nuji.com [3k]  Refer.ly (micro-affiliate model, startup)
  • 15. Peers – Comparison shopping E-commerce aggregators often referred to as “Smart shopping” (they shouldn’t )  Bizrate.com and Shopzilla.com [c.27m]  Nextag.com [16m]  Smarter.com [8m]  Shopping.com (eBay company) [7m]  Pricegrabbler.com [3m]  Epinions.com [2m]
  • 16. Peers – Bookmarking & Sharing High concentration, still low competition  Pinterest.com (pinned stuff) [20m]  TheFancy.com (fancy stuff) [108k]  Repinly.com (rated stuff) [47k]  Clipix.com (clipped stuff) [5k]  Sumally.com (all stuff) [1k]  Others: Wookmark.com, fffffound.com, Mistash.com (pivoting), Gimmebar.com, Likabl.es, Lookk.com