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PRACTICE
• P rimary concerns
• R egulatory concerns and
government
• A dvertising
• C ash
• T ime for Family and Friends
• I nventory
• C ulture of your practice
• E mployees

P epcid
R eglan
A lcohol
C rying
T axes
I buprofen
C omputer Crap
E nergy (or lack
thereof)
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The eight things attorneys,
accountants and practice managers
don’t tell you about practice
ownership
Part 2
Raymond J Ramirez DVM
University of Illinois 1986
ray@ramirezdvm.com
Ramirezdvm.com
Slideshare.net/rayjramirez
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PRACTICE
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P rimary concerns
R egulatory concerns and government
A dvertising
C ash
T ime for Family and Friends
I nventory
C ulture of your practice
E mployees
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P rimary concerns
R egulatory concerns and government
A dvertising
C ash
T ime for Family and Friends
I nventory
C ulture of your practice
E mployees
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Time for family and friends
– Repeat after me:

–Staff are not your friends
– You are held together by a paycheck, and
caring for each other not saying bad,
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Time for family and friends
• Maslo Hierarchy

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Time for family and friends
• Remember George Bailey?
– Always Building and loan
– Erupted in GBS
We don’t have Frank Capra
Or Clarence or…

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Time for family and friends
• This thing all things devours:
Birds, beasts, trees, flowers;
Gnaws iron, bites steel;
Grinds hard stones to meal;
Slays king, ruins town
And beats high mountain down. nizations

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Time for family and friends
• Find friends outside of work.
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Civic organizations
Church
Children’s school friends parents
Colleague from neighboring town (outside of
competitive area)

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Time for family and friends
• Friends will keep you grounded.
• Things like this (convention) are great…
– Need ongoing – more than every 12 months.
– Maybe Skype/ Google Hangout sessions
– Some significant time should be talking face to
face

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Time for family and friends
• When friends are from civic world after
ownership
– Cautionary tale
• They do not always distinguish between problems
with staff/ issues you have and how good of a
Doctor you are.

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Time for family
• Set aside time with husband / wife
• Schedule it – if not on schedule, will not
happen.
– Guard it like a dog guarding a bone

• What to schedule?
– Carefree timelessness

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Time with family and friends
• They don’t care how much you know, until
they know how much you care…
• What would your family say you care about
by proof of ‘wasted time’?
• Set boundries
– Even if home for only 30 min

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Time with Family
• Ideas: go to children events, even if you
don’t like
– Dad-daughter dance
– Bowling
– Driving to, from practice – even if middle of
day

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Time for family and friends
• Questions?

Avoiding…
Pepcid
Reglan
Alcohol
Crying
Taxes
Ibuprofen
Computer Crap
Energy (or lack thereof)

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PRACTICE
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P rimary concerns
R egulatory concerns and government
A dvertising
C ash
T ime for Family and Friends
I nventory
C ulture of your practice
E mployees
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Inventory
• Two basic concepts:
– Just in time
– Bulk buy

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Inventory
• Do nothing because I said so
• Look at Fortune
500 companies..
• How do they
manage
inventory?

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Inventory
• 95% of those companies manage the highest
cost inventory with ‘just in time’
– Dell pioneered in computers
– McDonalds in food
– FedEx makes it’s living helping manage JIT

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Inventory
• Just in time
• How looks in practice:
• Instead of ordering minimum of Frontline in 2010,
we ordered 70% from a special in February.
• Market was saturated with ads in Menards, many
other places, and despite our proof of ‘just as low’
price, clients purchased elsewhere, and still had
inventory 18 months later.
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Inventory
• Not saying there may not be some things
that would be wise to order.
• But bought practice in Dec 2007,
• In June 2013 purchased first order of
medication vials!
• Money sitting on shelf, not in your bank
account
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Inventory
• Get online pharmacy partner
• Many out there – to me, no reason to have
to pay a fee.
– USE them. Our solo doctor practice averages
3-5 approvals through our pharmacy / week.
– We do not stock Vetmedin (3 patients on) or
Soloxine,
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Inventory
• What we do stock
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1 NSAID – others are scripted
1 Heartworm preventative – choose favorite
1 flea preventative - we switched in 2012
1 flouroquinolone
1 ‘penicillin’ tablet

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Inventory
• Questions?

Avoiding…
Pepcid
Reglan
Alcohol
Crying
Taxes
Ibuprofen
Computer Crap
Energy (or lack
thereof)

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PRACTICE
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P rimary concerns
R egulatory concerns and government
A dvertising
C ash
T ime for Family and Friends
I nventory
C ulture of your practice
E mployees
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Culture of your practice
• Establish a culture is critical to your
enjoyment of practice.
• Word association
– Two different industries

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Culture of your practice

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Culture of your practice

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Culture of your practice

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Culture of your practice

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Culture of your practice

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Culture of your practice
There is no right or wrong..
Just make sure you are not out of place for
your niche
Could do same with restaurants

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Culture of your practice
What do you want yours to be like in the following
scenario:
An annual exam
Sick pet outpatient
Surgery
bring in ‘drop off’
going home
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Culture of your practice
We need to know what culture we want
Need to talk about daily, and model.
Need to correct when not doing

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Culture of practice
• If person not do procedure correctly
– 1st time wrong, assume I (trainer) did not give
directions clearly
– Second time, start to think did not hire correct
person
– Not everyone is fit for every practice, and
culture.
– How many think the Ritz Carlton would hire a
Motel 6 employee?
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Culture of your practice
• This is not an OHE process: set up and
done.
• More like riding a bicycle: always
correcting and balance

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Culture of practice
• The 1,000,000 question with no lifelines

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Are you willing to
ask people to leave,
even if they were
with the practice a
long time?

X

50:50

X

X

A: No - valuable
C: No- know everyone

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$1 Million
$500,000
$250,000
$125,000
$64,000
$32,000
$16,000
$8,000
$4,000
$2,000
$1,000
$500
$300
$200
$100

B: Yes
D: No only
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computer person
Culture of your practice
• Changing culture is difficult, and takes
time, and must watch with EVERY hire.
• Practice purchased in 07. From colleague
thought was mid level price.
• Turns out was low cost, high volume

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Culture of practice
• Staff said wanted to change
• But no enthusiasm for phone, new clients.
• At recent staff meeting, current staff went
out of way to mention first staff WERE
NOT friendly.

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Culture of Practice
• Have friends borrow a pet and mystery shop
your clinic.
• If not test, can not improve.

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Culture of your practice
• Want to find folks who naturally want this type of
service, not where it is a ‘stretch’.
• One receptionist interview mentioned would have
client come in for Exam if not ‘too expensive’…
when asked what is proper fee, said: “I don’t know
not been a receptionist for while, maybe $30”
• Point is not if receptionist is right or wrong, may
not be right fit for your practice, if your OV is
$55, or maybe great fit if yours is $25.
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Culture of your practice
• Questions?

Avoiding…
Pepcid
Reglan
Alcohol
Crying
Taxes
Ibuprofen
Computer Crap
Energy (or lack thereof)

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PRACTICE
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P rimary concerns
R egulatory concerns and government
A dvertising
C ash
T ime for Family and Friends
I nventory
C ulture of your practice
E mployees
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Employees
• Management expert Glenn Shepard recently
shared an experience of second worse day
of veterinarian in MN life was day came in
and fired everyone.
• He asked what was the worse?
– Every day of the 3 months leading up to that
day.
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Employees
• Some of this may sound like some things
we hear from management consultants
• But with new owner, we will focus on 3 that
are critical
• Changes from previous protocols
– Training staff to handle correctly

• Training and reviews
• Hiring
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Employees
If not purchased clinic yet:
Make sure of following legal protocol:
All staff are fired as of last day of previous
legal entity that is XYZ Animal Clinic…
And rehired by “new improved XYZ Animal
Clinic”
• Restarts clock
• No one has seniority
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Employees
Changes from previous protocols
– Training staff to handle correctly
– All your protocols should be written down.
• If some you did not think ‘needed’ to be written down, have a
staff member be your scribe, and start a Word document and
tell them “type this up for me, and have it printed before end
of day”.
• Do NOT let go on for more than 24 hr.
• Ask if understand protocol, ask them to repeat it back.
• “See one, do one, teach one”
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Employees
Changes from previous protocols
• Never correct in front of co-workers –
always in private – either office or exam
room.
• Always use the ‘sandwich’ method of
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Praise one thing they are doing
Correct protocol we need to correct
Ask them to repeat back so they understand
Praise a second thing you are appreciative of.
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Employees
Changes from previous protocols
• You have to read body language like you
would a patient
– Is this person really telling me the truth about
this?
– If you ave a key person who is not on board,
they can do a lot of sabotage of your changes
– Finding out if they are not ‘on board’ is much
harder when you are the boss, vs when you are
a fellow employee.
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Employees
Changes from previous protocols
• Habitforge.com
– Motivated person takes 3 weeks to make a
change
– Unmotivated person…. Unsure if ever will
change.

• May look at you with blank stares, or
nodding
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Employees
Changes from previous protocols
• What happens if your ‘favorite’ staff
member, when you correct them about
protocol for the third time, says “I
forgot”?
• Get over your fear of ‘I can not do this
without them’!
• No one is indispensable.
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Employees
• Training and reviews
• Not common in Veterinary medicine, to
have a phase training schedule – and need
to do with your ‘existing’ new employees.
• Weekly review of how week went,(for new
trainee) things they were supposed to learn,
remember, memorize for job.
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Employees
• We started with a Wendy Myer’s training
list and added/ subtracted to it.
– Don’t’ take time to reinvent the wheel – use
others wheel and tweak it – saves time and
money in long run because not making all the
same mistakes.

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Employees
Training and reviews
Review of job done
How many here have had a review in their life?
I had never had a review prior to my giving reviews
to my staff
Some places I had worked 5-7 years
As an associate, worked 1 yr, and 2.5 yr – no
review
Doing relief work, called every clinic to get
review of how I could do better next time.
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Employee
Reviews
• How often is recommended?
• Glenn Shepard says annual are on way out
– NONE are related to ‘raise’

• At least q 6 months
• One manager to reduce turnover, instituted
monthly reviews
• Turnover went from 150% to 20%
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Employee Reviews
• Why reduction?
• Know what is expected.
• Know how to improve

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Employee Review
• One note on reviews:
• Do not give a 1-5 review
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Why?
How many give perfect score?
How many give lowest score?
Just made a 3 point scale out of 5 point

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Employee Review
• Use a 1-10 scale
• Several online to look at things you want to
address:
• Punctuality, doing things not want, follow
directions, do weekly, biweekly, monthly
cleaning list, prep for sx next day…

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Employee
Hiring
It is not a badge of honor to never have to
hire, or never have fired someone.
• From business ‘best practices’ model:
• Get as many people as you can involved in
decision
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Employee: hiring
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•
•

Create a process to start – you may tweak
We have 3 step process
Phone interview
Onsite Interview
– Reference and previous employer check

• Extended ‘job shadow’ interview
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Employee: Hiring
• Know your standards – back to Culture
• Don’t compromise.
– If won’t follow to try to get job, they will not follow
when on the job

• Example: If you have a policy of only 2 stud type
earrings, we mention during phone interview:
“We have a policy of only stud earrings, no hoop
earrings, or hoop necklaces for your safety with
excited dogs” and they come to interview with 7
hoop earrings….
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Employee: hiring
• Common best practices axiom:
• Hire slowly, fire quickly.
• People can fake it for a while to ‘get’ a job.
• We do it all the time, with our clients!

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Employees
• Now you can sit on top of world!
Questions?
Avoiding…
Pepcid
Reglan
Alcohol
Crying
Taxes
Ibuprofen
Computer Crap
Energy (or lack thereof)

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Practice
P rimary concerns
R egulatory concerns and
government
A dvertising
C ash
T ime for Family and
Friends
I nventory
C ulture of your practice
E mployees

Avoiding…
Pepcid
Reglan
Alcohol
Crying
Taxes
Ibuprofen
Computer Crap
Energy (or lack thereof)

66

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P2what-attourney accountants and practice managers DON't tell you about practice ownership

  • 1. PRACTICE • P rimary concerns • R egulatory concerns and government • A dvertising • C ash • T ime for Family and Friends • I nventory • C ulture of your practice • E mployees P epcid R eglan A lcohol C rying T axes I buprofen C omputer Crap E nergy (or lack thereof) 1
  • 2. The eight things attorneys, accountants and practice managers don’t tell you about practice ownership Part 2 Raymond J Ramirez DVM University of Illinois 1986 ray@ramirezdvm.com Ramirezdvm.com Slideshare.net/rayjramirez 2
  • 3. PRACTICE • • • • • • • • P rimary concerns R egulatory concerns and government A dvertising C ash T ime for Family and Friends I nventory C ulture of your practice E mployees 3
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  • 5. PRACTICE • • • • • • • • P rimary concerns R egulatory concerns and government A dvertising C ash T ime for Family and Friends I nventory C ulture of your practice E mployees 5
  • 6. Time for family and friends – Repeat after me: –Staff are not your friends – You are held together by a paycheck, and caring for each other not saying bad, 6
  • 7. Time for family and friends • Maslo Hierarchy 7
  • 8. Time for family and friends • Remember George Bailey? – Always Building and loan – Erupted in GBS We don’t have Frank Capra Or Clarence or… 8
  • 9. Time for family and friends • This thing all things devours: Birds, beasts, trees, flowers; Gnaws iron, bites steel; Grinds hard stones to meal; Slays king, ruins town And beats high mountain down. nizations 9
  • 10. Time for family and friends • Find friends outside of work. – – – – Civic organizations Church Children’s school friends parents Colleague from neighboring town (outside of competitive area) 10
  • 11. Time for family and friends • Friends will keep you grounded. • Things like this (convention) are great… – Need ongoing – more than every 12 months. – Maybe Skype/ Google Hangout sessions – Some significant time should be talking face to face 11
  • 12. Time for family and friends • When friends are from civic world after ownership – Cautionary tale • They do not always distinguish between problems with staff/ issues you have and how good of a Doctor you are. 12
  • 13. Time for family • Set aside time with husband / wife • Schedule it – if not on schedule, will not happen. – Guard it like a dog guarding a bone • What to schedule? – Carefree timelessness 13
  • 14. Time with family and friends • They don’t care how much you know, until they know how much you care… • What would your family say you care about by proof of ‘wasted time’? • Set boundries – Even if home for only 30 min 14
  • 15. Time with Family • Ideas: go to children events, even if you don’t like – Dad-daughter dance – Bowling – Driving to, from practice – even if middle of day 15
  • 16. Time for family and friends • Questions? Avoiding… Pepcid Reglan Alcohol Crying Taxes Ibuprofen Computer Crap Energy (or lack thereof) 16
  • 17. PRACTICE • • • • • • • • P rimary concerns R egulatory concerns and government A dvertising C ash T ime for Family and Friends I nventory C ulture of your practice E mployees 17
  • 18. Inventory • Two basic concepts: – Just in time – Bulk buy 18
  • 19. Inventory • Do nothing because I said so • Look at Fortune 500 companies.. • How do they manage inventory? 19
  • 20. Inventory • 95% of those companies manage the highest cost inventory with ‘just in time’ – Dell pioneered in computers – McDonalds in food – FedEx makes it’s living helping manage JIT 20
  • 21. Inventory • Just in time • How looks in practice: • Instead of ordering minimum of Frontline in 2010, we ordered 70% from a special in February. • Market was saturated with ads in Menards, many other places, and despite our proof of ‘just as low’ price, clients purchased elsewhere, and still had inventory 18 months later. 21
  • 22. Inventory • Not saying there may not be some things that would be wise to order. • But bought practice in Dec 2007, • In June 2013 purchased first order of medication vials! • Money sitting on shelf, not in your bank account 22
  • 23. Inventory • Get online pharmacy partner • Many out there – to me, no reason to have to pay a fee. – USE them. Our solo doctor practice averages 3-5 approvals through our pharmacy / week. – We do not stock Vetmedin (3 patients on) or Soloxine, 23
  • 24. Inventory • What we do stock – – – – – 1 NSAID – others are scripted 1 Heartworm preventative – choose favorite 1 flea preventative - we switched in 2012 1 flouroquinolone 1 ‘penicillin’ tablet 24
  • 26. PRACTICE • • • • • • • • P rimary concerns R egulatory concerns and government A dvertising C ash T ime for Family and Friends I nventory C ulture of your practice E mployees 26
  • 27. Culture of your practice • Establish a culture is critical to your enjoyment of practice. • Word association – Two different industries 27
  • 28. Culture of your practice 28
  • 29. Culture of your practice 29
  • 30. Culture of your practice 30
  • 31. Culture of your practice 31
  • 32. Culture of your practice 32
  • 33. Culture of your practice There is no right or wrong.. Just make sure you are not out of place for your niche Could do same with restaurants 33
  • 34. Culture of your practice What do you want yours to be like in the following scenario: An annual exam Sick pet outpatient Surgery bring in ‘drop off’ going home 34
  • 35. Culture of your practice We need to know what culture we want Need to talk about daily, and model. Need to correct when not doing 35
  • 36. Culture of practice • If person not do procedure correctly – 1st time wrong, assume I (trainer) did not give directions clearly – Second time, start to think did not hire correct person – Not everyone is fit for every practice, and culture. – How many think the Ritz Carlton would hire a Motel 6 employee? 36
  • 37. Culture of your practice • This is not an OHE process: set up and done. • More like riding a bicycle: always correcting and balance 37
  • 38. Culture of practice • The 1,000,000 question with no lifelines 38
  • 39. Are you willing to ask people to leave, even if they were with the practice a long time? X 50:50 X X A: No - valuable C: No- know everyone 15 14 13 12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 $1 Million $500,000 $250,000 $125,000 $64,000 $32,000 $16,000 $8,000 $4,000 $2,000 $1,000 $500 $300 $200 $100 B: Yes D: No only 39 computer person
  • 40. Culture of your practice • Changing culture is difficult, and takes time, and must watch with EVERY hire. • Practice purchased in 07. From colleague thought was mid level price. • Turns out was low cost, high volume 40
  • 41. Culture of practice • Staff said wanted to change • But no enthusiasm for phone, new clients. • At recent staff meeting, current staff went out of way to mention first staff WERE NOT friendly. 41
  • 42. Culture of Practice • Have friends borrow a pet and mystery shop your clinic. • If not test, can not improve. 42
  • 43. Culture of your practice • Want to find folks who naturally want this type of service, not where it is a ‘stretch’. • One receptionist interview mentioned would have client come in for Exam if not ‘too expensive’… when asked what is proper fee, said: “I don’t know not been a receptionist for while, maybe $30” • Point is not if receptionist is right or wrong, may not be right fit for your practice, if your OV is $55, or maybe great fit if yours is $25. 43
  • 44. Culture of your practice • Questions? Avoiding… Pepcid Reglan Alcohol Crying Taxes Ibuprofen Computer Crap Energy (or lack thereof) 44
  • 45. PRACTICE • • • • • • • • P rimary concerns R egulatory concerns and government A dvertising C ash T ime for Family and Friends I nventory C ulture of your practice E mployees 45
  • 46. Employees • Management expert Glenn Shepard recently shared an experience of second worse day of veterinarian in MN life was day came in and fired everyone. • He asked what was the worse? – Every day of the 3 months leading up to that day. 46
  • 47. Employees • Some of this may sound like some things we hear from management consultants • But with new owner, we will focus on 3 that are critical • Changes from previous protocols – Training staff to handle correctly • Training and reviews • Hiring 47
  • 48. Employees If not purchased clinic yet: Make sure of following legal protocol: All staff are fired as of last day of previous legal entity that is XYZ Animal Clinic… And rehired by “new improved XYZ Animal Clinic” • Restarts clock • No one has seniority 48
  • 49. Employees Changes from previous protocols – Training staff to handle correctly – All your protocols should be written down. • If some you did not think ‘needed’ to be written down, have a staff member be your scribe, and start a Word document and tell them “type this up for me, and have it printed before end of day”. • Do NOT let go on for more than 24 hr. • Ask if understand protocol, ask them to repeat it back. • “See one, do one, teach one” 49
  • 50. Employees Changes from previous protocols • Never correct in front of co-workers – always in private – either office or exam room. • Always use the ‘sandwich’ method of – – – – Praise one thing they are doing Correct protocol we need to correct Ask them to repeat back so they understand Praise a second thing you are appreciative of. 50
  • 51. Employees Changes from previous protocols • You have to read body language like you would a patient – Is this person really telling me the truth about this? – If you ave a key person who is not on board, they can do a lot of sabotage of your changes – Finding out if they are not ‘on board’ is much harder when you are the boss, vs when you are a fellow employee. 51
  • 52. Employees Changes from previous protocols • Habitforge.com – Motivated person takes 3 weeks to make a change – Unmotivated person…. Unsure if ever will change. • May look at you with blank stares, or nodding 52
  • 53. Employees Changes from previous protocols • What happens if your ‘favorite’ staff member, when you correct them about protocol for the third time, says “I forgot”? • Get over your fear of ‘I can not do this without them’! • No one is indispensable. 53
  • 54. Employees • Training and reviews • Not common in Veterinary medicine, to have a phase training schedule – and need to do with your ‘existing’ new employees. • Weekly review of how week went,(for new trainee) things they were supposed to learn, remember, memorize for job. 54
  • 55. Employees • We started with a Wendy Myer’s training list and added/ subtracted to it. – Don’t’ take time to reinvent the wheel – use others wheel and tweak it – saves time and money in long run because not making all the same mistakes. 55
  • 56. Employees Training and reviews Review of job done How many here have had a review in their life? I had never had a review prior to my giving reviews to my staff Some places I had worked 5-7 years As an associate, worked 1 yr, and 2.5 yr – no review Doing relief work, called every clinic to get review of how I could do better next time. 56
  • 57. Employee Reviews • How often is recommended? • Glenn Shepard says annual are on way out – NONE are related to ‘raise’ • At least q 6 months • One manager to reduce turnover, instituted monthly reviews • Turnover went from 150% to 20% 57
  • 58. Employee Reviews • Why reduction? • Know what is expected. • Know how to improve 58
  • 59. Employee Review • One note on reviews: • Do not give a 1-5 review – – – – Why? How many give perfect score? How many give lowest score? Just made a 3 point scale out of 5 point 59
  • 60. Employee Review • Use a 1-10 scale • Several online to look at things you want to address: • Punctuality, doing things not want, follow directions, do weekly, biweekly, monthly cleaning list, prep for sx next day… 60
  • 61. Employee Hiring It is not a badge of honor to never have to hire, or never have fired someone. • From business ‘best practices’ model: • Get as many people as you can involved in decision 61
  • 62. Employee: hiring • • • • Create a process to start – you may tweak We have 3 step process Phone interview Onsite Interview – Reference and previous employer check • Extended ‘job shadow’ interview 62
  • 63. Employee: Hiring • Know your standards – back to Culture • Don’t compromise. – If won’t follow to try to get job, they will not follow when on the job • Example: If you have a policy of only 2 stud type earrings, we mention during phone interview: “We have a policy of only stud earrings, no hoop earrings, or hoop necklaces for your safety with excited dogs” and they come to interview with 7 hoop earrings…. 63
  • 64. Employee: hiring • Common best practices axiom: • Hire slowly, fire quickly. • People can fake it for a while to ‘get’ a job. • We do it all the time, with our clients! 64
  • 65. Employees • Now you can sit on top of world! Questions? Avoiding… Pepcid Reglan Alcohol Crying Taxes Ibuprofen Computer Crap Energy (or lack thereof) 65
  • 66. Practice P rimary concerns R egulatory concerns and government A dvertising C ash T ime for Family and Friends I nventory C ulture of your practice E mployees Avoiding… Pepcid Reglan Alcohol Crying Taxes Ibuprofen Computer Crap Energy (or lack thereof) 66