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HOW TO STRUCTURE YOUR 
QUESTIONS SO THE MEDICAL 
EXPERT DOESN’T DERAIL YOUR 
CASE 
NOSSCR MAY 2010 -NEIL H. GOOD 
1
1. What are the goals of the cross 
examination of the ME? 
2. How do you prepare? 
3. How do you execute an effective 
cross examination? 
NOSSCR MAY 2010 -NEIL H. GOOD 2
Generally 
1. Reinforce favorable information 
2. Discredit or impeach unfavorable information 
a. Information can be facts or opinions 
b. Opinions should be based on facts 
c. Experts can disagree on opinions, not facts 
d. SS case-don’t know ME opinion until the 
hearing 
NOSSCR MAY 2010 -NEIL H. GOOD 3
1. Construct questions so the ME appears not 
credible 
2. Construct questions so the ME admits the 
diagnoses is consistent with the objective test 
and the symptoms(subjective and objective) 
3. Construct questions so the ME admits the 
claimant is credible (SSR 96-7p) 
4. Construct questions so the ME give controlling 
or greatest weight to the treating physician 
(SSR 96-2p) 
NOSSCR MAY 2010 -NEIL H. GOOD 4
5. Construct questions so the ME admits the 
claimant cannot work full time (SSR 96-8p) 
6. Construct questions so the ME admits that the 
combination of diagnoses explains why the 
symptoms are greater than suggested by the 
objective medical evidence 
7. Construct questions so the ME admits that the 
psychiatric condition can explain why the 
symptoms are worse than the medical 
objective evidence suggests 
NOSSCR MAY 2010 -NEIL H. GOOD 5
1. Construct the questions so the ME appears not 
credible 
a. Show the ME is biased 
b. Show the ME lacks knowledge of the facts 
c. Show the ME lacks knowledge of the subject matter 
d. Show the ME’s opinion is different than other 
medical personnel with better, more reliable 
information 
NOSSCR MAY 2010 -NEIL H. GOOD 6
2. Construct the questions so the ME admits the 
diagnosis is consistent with the symptoms and 
the objective tests 
a. First facts 
 Activities of daily living 
 3rd party function report 
 Disability report 
 The medical records 
 Testimony 
b. Second opinions 
 Construct the questions so the ME agrees or disagrees 
with favorable opinions of other medical personnel 
NOSSCR MAY 2010 -NEIL H. GOOD 7
3. Construct the questions so the ME admits the 
claimant is credible (SSR 96-7p) 
a. Construct the questions so the ME admits other 
doctors found the claimant credible 
 Referring to other medical personnel 
 Workers’ Compensation doctor 
 Other Social Security doctors 
 Free clinic or hospital – Cook County Hospital 
 Physical therapists 
 Treating doctor 
b. Construct the questions so the ME admits the 
diagnosis is a competent cause of pain 
NOSSCR MAY 2010 -NEIL H. GOOD 8
c. Construct the questions so the ME admits the 
symptoms are consistent with the objective 
tests 
d. Construct the questions so the ME admits the 
symptoms existed before the objective tests 
e. Construct the questions so the ME admits the 
symptoms confirm the diagnosis 
f. Construct the questions so the ME admits that 
the diagnosis could cause level of limitations, 
persistence and pain 
NOSSCR MAY 2010 -NEIL H. GOOD 9
g. Make the ME admit that this medications are 
prescribed for this diagnosed condition. 
h. Make the ME admit they don’t prescribe the 
medication unless the condition is severe, or 
else it would be over the counter. 
i. Make them admit the side effects are caused 
by this medication. 
j. This all leads one to believe the claimant is 
credible . 
NOSSCR MAY 2010 -NEIL H. GOOD 10
4. Construct the questions so the ME admits 
controlling/greatest weight should be given to 
the treating physician (SSR 96-2p and CFR 
404.1527) 
a. Construct the questions so the ME admits 
the treating doctor’s opinions 
b. Construct the questions so the ME admits 
the opinion could be true 
c. Construct the questions so the ME admits 
there is nothing (substantially) inconsistent 
in the records 
NOSSCR MAY 2010 -NEIL H. GOOD 11
SS DR and ME Treating Doctor 
1. Examining 
Relationship # 
2. Treating relationship 
i)length of treatment 
ii)number of exams 
iii)nature extent of 
tests ordered 
Knowledge of 
impairment 
Poms di 25610.89 
Consistency with record 
specializations 
Other factors/ who paid 
NOSSCR MAY 2010 -NEIL H. GOOD 12
5. Construct the questions so the ME admits the 
Claimant cannot work 8-hour days, 5 days a 
week (SSR 96-8p) 
a. Construct the questions so the ME admits the 
condition 
b. Construct the questions so the ME admits the 
condition would cause the claimant to be 
affected on the job (missing work, late, off 
task, breaks, leaving early) 
c. Construct the questions so the ME admits 
claimant not able to work 8 X 5 
NOSSCR MAY 2010 -NEIL H. GOOD 13
6. Construct the questions so the ME admits that a 
combination of diagnoses could explain why 
the symptoms are greater than the objective 
evidence would suggest 
7. Construct the questions so the 
ME/psychiatrist/psychologist admits that the 
psychiatric condition can explain or cause 
symptoms to be worse than the medical 
evidence suggests 
NOSSCR MAY 2010 -NEIL H. GOOD 14
1. General comments 
2. Compare rules of Evidence to 
SS hearing 
3. Cross examination techniques 
4. Plan the Cross Examination 
NOSSCR MAY 2010 -NEIL H. GOOD 15
1. Realize this is about control 
2. Be low key 
3. Be professional 
4. Be efficient in your questioning 
5. Ask one fact in one question, except 
hypothetical questions 
6. Know that this is about setting up the 
ME 
7. Don’t go for the quick kill 
NOSSCR MAY 2010 -NEIL H. GOOD 16
8. Use fact-based questions 
9. Pin the ME to the medical records 
10. Stay away from the ME’s opinions, because 
we don’t know what they are until the 
hearing. 
11. FRE 705 deals with disclosure of facts and data 
underlying opinions. The notes for this rule 
mandate the disclosure in advance, pursuant to 
FRCP 26(b)(4). (Illinois213f) 
NOSSCR MAY 2010 -NEIL H. GOOD 17
1. No foundations 
2. No formal objections 
a. Beyond the scope of evidence 
b. Assumes facts not in evidence 
c. Beyond the expert’s field of expertise 
d. There are no form objections 
3. No requirement evidence even exists 
NOSSCR MAY 2010 -NEIL H. GOOD 18
1. Repeat the question 
2. Ask the ME if he did not understand 
3. Ask why the Me why he won’t answer the 
question 
4. Ask the question in the opposite 
5. Narrow the question 
6. Ask for judicial intervention 
7. If the judge interrupts, it’s answered; be ready 
NOSSCR MAY 2010 -NEIL H. GOOD 19
Formulating questions 
Yes 
No 
Question Refusal to answer 
Unrelated run on 
ALJ intervention 
NOSSCR MAY 2010 -NEIL H. GOOD 20
Have impeachment material ready 
Q. Do you agree that all pain is subjective? 
A. No. 
Q. Well, would you agree that symptoms, such as 
pain are subjective and difficult to quantify? 
A. I can’t say. 
Q. So then you disagree with Social Security’s 
position in CFR404.1529 where it says that, 
correct? 
NOSSCR MAY 2010 -NEIL H. GOOD 21
1. Read the file- note dates and objective test 
2. Figure out your goals 
3. Plan the cross examination 
a. Set up questions first 
b. Reinforce favorable information 
c. Elicit opinions on SSR’s 
d. Impeach unfavorable information 
NOSSCR MAY 2010 -NEIL H. GOOD 22
1. The minimizor – he acknowledges the 
diagnosis minimizes the limitations 
2. The quick reader - he really does not read the 
file 
3. The adopter - he adopts the DDS RFC 
4. The know-it-all - he knows it all and makes 
things up that are not in the records 
5. The objective test reader – he only reads the 
objective tests 
NOSSCR MAY 2010 -NEIL H. GOOD 23
6. The Repeater - he repeats the same thing at 
every hearing 
7. The honest doctor – he still gets it wrong 
8. The helpful doctor – he tries to help the 
claimant 
9. The positive doctor – he thinks he can only give 
an opinion if he’s sure beyond all doubt 
NOSSCR MAY 2010 -NEIL H. GOOD 24
1. Be professional. 
2. Be efficient. 
3. Be in control. 
4. Don’t get hostile. 
5. Don’t argue; stay in control. 
6. Remember: You are trying to get them to do 
these things. 
NOSSCR MAY 2010 -NEIL H. GOOD 25
Goals: Ms. Claimant 
1. Construct the questions so the ME admits the 
claimant’s condition is permanent 
2. Go through the SSR’s that apply 
3. Construct the questions so the ME admits there is 
nothing to contradict the WC doctor’s opinion 
that the claimant couldn’t work in the last 3 years 
4. Compare the 2 exams and compel the ME to 
admit more limitation means less ability to work 
5. Construct the questions so the ME admits that 
neuropathy causes limitation that affect ability to 
work. 
NOSSCR MAY 2010 -NEIL H. GOOD 26

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How to Structure Your Questions So A Medical Expert Doesn't Derail Your Case

  • 1. HOW TO STRUCTURE YOUR QUESTIONS SO THE MEDICAL EXPERT DOESN’T DERAIL YOUR CASE NOSSCR MAY 2010 -NEIL H. GOOD 1
  • 2. 1. What are the goals of the cross examination of the ME? 2. How do you prepare? 3. How do you execute an effective cross examination? NOSSCR MAY 2010 -NEIL H. GOOD 2
  • 3. Generally 1. Reinforce favorable information 2. Discredit or impeach unfavorable information a. Information can be facts or opinions b. Opinions should be based on facts c. Experts can disagree on opinions, not facts d. SS case-don’t know ME opinion until the hearing NOSSCR MAY 2010 -NEIL H. GOOD 3
  • 4. 1. Construct questions so the ME appears not credible 2. Construct questions so the ME admits the diagnoses is consistent with the objective test and the symptoms(subjective and objective) 3. Construct questions so the ME admits the claimant is credible (SSR 96-7p) 4. Construct questions so the ME give controlling or greatest weight to the treating physician (SSR 96-2p) NOSSCR MAY 2010 -NEIL H. GOOD 4
  • 5. 5. Construct questions so the ME admits the claimant cannot work full time (SSR 96-8p) 6. Construct questions so the ME admits that the combination of diagnoses explains why the symptoms are greater than suggested by the objective medical evidence 7. Construct questions so the ME admits that the psychiatric condition can explain why the symptoms are worse than the medical objective evidence suggests NOSSCR MAY 2010 -NEIL H. GOOD 5
  • 6. 1. Construct the questions so the ME appears not credible a. Show the ME is biased b. Show the ME lacks knowledge of the facts c. Show the ME lacks knowledge of the subject matter d. Show the ME’s opinion is different than other medical personnel with better, more reliable information NOSSCR MAY 2010 -NEIL H. GOOD 6
  • 7. 2. Construct the questions so the ME admits the diagnosis is consistent with the symptoms and the objective tests a. First facts  Activities of daily living  3rd party function report  Disability report  The medical records  Testimony b. Second opinions  Construct the questions so the ME agrees or disagrees with favorable opinions of other medical personnel NOSSCR MAY 2010 -NEIL H. GOOD 7
  • 8. 3. Construct the questions so the ME admits the claimant is credible (SSR 96-7p) a. Construct the questions so the ME admits other doctors found the claimant credible  Referring to other medical personnel  Workers’ Compensation doctor  Other Social Security doctors  Free clinic or hospital – Cook County Hospital  Physical therapists  Treating doctor b. Construct the questions so the ME admits the diagnosis is a competent cause of pain NOSSCR MAY 2010 -NEIL H. GOOD 8
  • 9. c. Construct the questions so the ME admits the symptoms are consistent with the objective tests d. Construct the questions so the ME admits the symptoms existed before the objective tests e. Construct the questions so the ME admits the symptoms confirm the diagnosis f. Construct the questions so the ME admits that the diagnosis could cause level of limitations, persistence and pain NOSSCR MAY 2010 -NEIL H. GOOD 9
  • 10. g. Make the ME admit that this medications are prescribed for this diagnosed condition. h. Make the ME admit they don’t prescribe the medication unless the condition is severe, or else it would be over the counter. i. Make them admit the side effects are caused by this medication. j. This all leads one to believe the claimant is credible . NOSSCR MAY 2010 -NEIL H. GOOD 10
  • 11. 4. Construct the questions so the ME admits controlling/greatest weight should be given to the treating physician (SSR 96-2p and CFR 404.1527) a. Construct the questions so the ME admits the treating doctor’s opinions b. Construct the questions so the ME admits the opinion could be true c. Construct the questions so the ME admits there is nothing (substantially) inconsistent in the records NOSSCR MAY 2010 -NEIL H. GOOD 11
  • 12. SS DR and ME Treating Doctor 1. Examining Relationship # 2. Treating relationship i)length of treatment ii)number of exams iii)nature extent of tests ordered Knowledge of impairment Poms di 25610.89 Consistency with record specializations Other factors/ who paid NOSSCR MAY 2010 -NEIL H. GOOD 12
  • 13. 5. Construct the questions so the ME admits the Claimant cannot work 8-hour days, 5 days a week (SSR 96-8p) a. Construct the questions so the ME admits the condition b. Construct the questions so the ME admits the condition would cause the claimant to be affected on the job (missing work, late, off task, breaks, leaving early) c. Construct the questions so the ME admits claimant not able to work 8 X 5 NOSSCR MAY 2010 -NEIL H. GOOD 13
  • 14. 6. Construct the questions so the ME admits that a combination of diagnoses could explain why the symptoms are greater than the objective evidence would suggest 7. Construct the questions so the ME/psychiatrist/psychologist admits that the psychiatric condition can explain or cause symptoms to be worse than the medical evidence suggests NOSSCR MAY 2010 -NEIL H. GOOD 14
  • 15. 1. General comments 2. Compare rules of Evidence to SS hearing 3. Cross examination techniques 4. Plan the Cross Examination NOSSCR MAY 2010 -NEIL H. GOOD 15
  • 16. 1. Realize this is about control 2. Be low key 3. Be professional 4. Be efficient in your questioning 5. Ask one fact in one question, except hypothetical questions 6. Know that this is about setting up the ME 7. Don’t go for the quick kill NOSSCR MAY 2010 -NEIL H. GOOD 16
  • 17. 8. Use fact-based questions 9. Pin the ME to the medical records 10. Stay away from the ME’s opinions, because we don’t know what they are until the hearing. 11. FRE 705 deals with disclosure of facts and data underlying opinions. The notes for this rule mandate the disclosure in advance, pursuant to FRCP 26(b)(4). (Illinois213f) NOSSCR MAY 2010 -NEIL H. GOOD 17
  • 18. 1. No foundations 2. No formal objections a. Beyond the scope of evidence b. Assumes facts not in evidence c. Beyond the expert’s field of expertise d. There are no form objections 3. No requirement evidence even exists NOSSCR MAY 2010 -NEIL H. GOOD 18
  • 19. 1. Repeat the question 2. Ask the ME if he did not understand 3. Ask why the Me why he won’t answer the question 4. Ask the question in the opposite 5. Narrow the question 6. Ask for judicial intervention 7. If the judge interrupts, it’s answered; be ready NOSSCR MAY 2010 -NEIL H. GOOD 19
  • 20. Formulating questions Yes No Question Refusal to answer Unrelated run on ALJ intervention NOSSCR MAY 2010 -NEIL H. GOOD 20
  • 21. Have impeachment material ready Q. Do you agree that all pain is subjective? A. No. Q. Well, would you agree that symptoms, such as pain are subjective and difficult to quantify? A. I can’t say. Q. So then you disagree with Social Security’s position in CFR404.1529 where it says that, correct? NOSSCR MAY 2010 -NEIL H. GOOD 21
  • 22. 1. Read the file- note dates and objective test 2. Figure out your goals 3. Plan the cross examination a. Set up questions first b. Reinforce favorable information c. Elicit opinions on SSR’s d. Impeach unfavorable information NOSSCR MAY 2010 -NEIL H. GOOD 22
  • 23. 1. The minimizor – he acknowledges the diagnosis minimizes the limitations 2. The quick reader - he really does not read the file 3. The adopter - he adopts the DDS RFC 4. The know-it-all - he knows it all and makes things up that are not in the records 5. The objective test reader – he only reads the objective tests NOSSCR MAY 2010 -NEIL H. GOOD 23
  • 24. 6. The Repeater - he repeats the same thing at every hearing 7. The honest doctor – he still gets it wrong 8. The helpful doctor – he tries to help the claimant 9. The positive doctor – he thinks he can only give an opinion if he’s sure beyond all doubt NOSSCR MAY 2010 -NEIL H. GOOD 24
  • 25. 1. Be professional. 2. Be efficient. 3. Be in control. 4. Don’t get hostile. 5. Don’t argue; stay in control. 6. Remember: You are trying to get them to do these things. NOSSCR MAY 2010 -NEIL H. GOOD 25
  • 26. Goals: Ms. Claimant 1. Construct the questions so the ME admits the claimant’s condition is permanent 2. Go through the SSR’s that apply 3. Construct the questions so the ME admits there is nothing to contradict the WC doctor’s opinion that the claimant couldn’t work in the last 3 years 4. Compare the 2 exams and compel the ME to admit more limitation means less ability to work 5. Construct the questions so the ME admits that neuropathy causes limitation that affect ability to work. NOSSCR MAY 2010 -NEIL H. GOOD 26

Editor's Notes

  1. If the doctor answer this question no, and does not have impeachment material in hand it is over The final question he asks it doesn’t matter what the answer is HOW DOES ONE BECOME AN ME AT A SS HEARING HALEX I-2-1-30 NEED THE CREDENTIAL ON LETTERHEAD I know people don’t ask the ME’s questions because the ME’s think we are having a conversation. If the ME says stand 6 hours out of an 8 hour day and lift 20 pounds frequently. Then gives a basis in the records your done. It doesn’t matter what the VE says. Most ME’s actually form their opinions by an absence of evidence not in the records. I rarely see a doctor write a patient can only sit for 15 minutes at a time. Give to all client MSS That’s what I tell them why it is important. Ask for there notes the same for the VE’s, there is no privilege.
  2. Do this ten times. The example of the compression fracture SSA at 20 CRF 404.1527 they opinions are statements that reflect judgments about nature and severity, of impairments including symptoms, diagnosis prognosis and RFC from medical sources.
  3. Have the Me define: Objective and subjective. a. Subjective symptoms are evident only to the patient, or internal in origin(Tabers) b. Objective symptoms are perceptible to other persons(Tabers) Objective test – third parties opinion should not effect the out come. Certain test have a subjective component MRI- the film is objective the report says small herniation vs 3mm herniation
  4. Show he always testifies the same way –start early on opening what you expect him to say - Talk about financial bias does not apply other than who is paying them b. Find a mistake in the records and ask about it or an obvious fact Find out if he ever treated anybody with this condition and when(mmpi & Caucasion) Point out that he disagrees with the other doctors. Find out if the ME is testifying from an absence of evidence or information not in the records
  5. Talk about is it possible, is it probable could or might, based on a reasonable degree of medical certainty These limitations come from the facts then the opinions. Find out the basis of the disagreement So your opinion is base on an absence of evidence, Sets up a great appeal to re-contact the doctor
  6. One of the problems inherent in SSR 96-7p is it says something like symptoms such as pain suggest a greater severity of impairment than can be shown by objective medical evidence alone. YOU CAN NEVER SHOW PAIN WITH OBJECTIVE MEDICAL EVIDENCE. I have three approaches Ask it directly Ask if they disagree with DDS Go through a consistency analysis
  7. C. This can be done using location or type of pain as well as pain distribution. I do this to show that they were not making it up This pain is consistent with that diagnosis An individual with a lumbar herniation could need a cane, no so your telling me that no person who has ever had a lumbar hernition needed cane.
  8. Doctor would you agree that MS cotton is prescribed on for more severe cases of DDD Would you agree that one could take aspirin if the DDD was mild? Would you agree that the Darvicet is for more severe medical problems? This needs to be prescribed by a doctor correct? Would you agree that fatigue is a known side effect of darvicet? Would you agree that when looking at the claimants complaints of pain, the limitations claimant has stated exist and the objecive medical evidence this claimant is credible?
  9. This again is a little bit again about set up. Assume you have a MSS that says the claimant will miss 2 days of work a month from her disability. The ME disagreed by questioning by the ALJ. This is 2 parts first controlling weight then greatest weight. Not really. Part 1 controlling weight- Opinion well supported by clinical and laboratory diagnostic technique not inconsistent with substantial evidence I exclude SS fabricated evidence Only treating source not SS doctors even if accepted Dr. ME there nothing in the medical records that prove Dr. Treating statement to be false correct? So would you agree there is nothing inconsistent with that statement correct? In fact it is possible for a claimant who has DDD to move slower than a person with out DDD, correct? So they might have trouble getting dressed in the morning, correct? They might have trouble sleeping at night, correct? The medications the claimant is on could cause side effects that make her fatigued correct? The medication and the DDD are both documented in the file correct?
  10. Assume we have a very favorable MSS from the claimants treating physician that says the claimant . Further assume the ME has said the claimant can do light work. Do you agree with the treating Doctors MSS? if Yes Would you agree that the MRI, the Testimony today and medication support that opinion? Do you agree with the treating Doctors MSS? If No Is there anything inconsistent with that opinion in the file? No Stop If yes 1. How many times did Dr. Treater examine the claimant? 2. How many times did the SS doctor or you examine the claimant? 3. How many times has Dr. Treater seen the claimant? 4. How many times has the SS doctor or you examined the claimant? Dr. Treater ordered what tests, prescribed what medication and what other treatment? You would agree that none of the doctors at Social securtiy did any of this correct? Are you aware of what type of a doctor the SS doctor is? If I told you the SS doctor was an oncologist would you agree that he is not as quialified as a orthopedic doctor to determine limitatain for DDD? Would you agree that Is there any information inconsistent with the treating doctors opinion? How many times did the SS doctors examine the claimant How many times did the Dr. Treater examine the patient?
  11. The claimant was diagnosed with IBS. Do you agree with that diagnosis? You would agree an individual who goes to the Bathroom 6 times maybe more a day? Would you agree that symptom is consistent with that diagnosis?
  12. These rules get evidence barred-without the rules you can use them against the SSA Medical records Testimony Witnesses Foundations are used to get evidence admitted Records or Testimony I had a judge who didn’t know these rules and he kept barring admissible evidence --imagine not being able to get the record in that says your client is drug addict Beyond the scope of the evidence when they come up with crazy stuff like he must be an alcoholic because he has fat in his liver Facts not in evidence- use this against them You said he needs an EMG to prove neuropathy correct - Want you to assume a, b, c and there is a positive EMG Beyond the field of expertise – these guys are allowed to say anything Hallex I-2-1-30 I got many cases barred based on this and daubert/frye/ kumero ------biomechmechanical engineer Form- You don’t have to ask things in nice clean tight questions- but try to No requirement the evidence exists This is really how you get them Asssume he was not intoxicated is it possible he would not have had a siezure anyway Assume he was taking his medication is it possible he would have had siezure anyway
  13. You need to set up the question so there is no room for comments.