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APRICOTS – Preparing For
Psych Depositions
Pre-Deposition/Pre-Trial Consult Reports:
No matter where you are in the world as
long as your report is in English, you can
send it to me and I can provide you with a
critique and a list of questions to ask the
doctor during their testimony.
Browse Dr. Leckart’s Book,
Psychological Evaluations in
Litigation: A Practical Guide for
Attorneys and Insurance Adjusters
at www.DrLeckartWETC.com
THE WETC PSYCHOLOGY NEWSLETTER
Dr. Bruce Leckart
"Find the Truth, Tell the Story"
Westwood Evaluation & Treatment Center
11340 Olympic Blvd., Suite 303, Los Angeles, CA 90064
(844)444-8898, DrLeckartWETC@gmail.com, www.DrLeckartWETC.com
October, 2015
Volume 1, Issue 81
No one doubts that when it comes to psych
reports written for workers’ compensation or
personal injury litigation there is no lack of
substantially flawed reports. However, attorneys
simply are not trained to find and expose those flaws
during the doctor’s deposition, trial testimony or in a
written brief. That’s where I come in. I absolutely
love writing detailed critiques of psychological and
psychiatric reports documenting the errors in those
reports and telling the attorneys just how to question
the doctor or write briefs that will expose the defects
and lead to more just settlements and awards. For
reasons that are quite mundane I call those reports,
“Apricots.”
In December, 2013 I started focusing my monthly
newsletters on helping attorneys take depositions
without my assistance. In the ensuing months I
wrote about six “Rules” to be followed for better
deposition outcomes. In my October, 2014
newsletter I pointed out that the weakest link in every
psych report is the doctor’s diagnosis. I also noted
the best questions to ask a doctor during a deposition
demonstrate that there are insufficient data in the
doctor’s report to support their diagnostic
conclusions.
Getting back to my December, 2013 newsletter I
pointed out that it really doesn’t matter which side of
the fence you’re on, plaintiff or applicant, or defense.
Essentially, if you feel the doctor has over-diagnosed
or under-diagnosed, the basic question is the same.
Do the data support the doctor’s conclusions?
Specifically in the case of a “wash-out,” there is
insufficient information to justify concluding the
patient has no psychological disorder. Similarly in the
case of a “wash-in” the doctor has insufficient
information to support the disorder or disorders they
diagnosed.
This month’s newsletter provides a sample of the
questions a defense attorney might ask. I just as
easily could have provided a series of questions for a
plaintiff’s or applicant’s attorney. Questions such as
those found below appear in each and every one of
my reports. If you want to avoid the expense of an
“apricot” report I encourage you to use the
questions provided below as a model in preparing
your cross-examination.
If you want to see what a complete report looks
like please go to my website, which is
www.DrLeckartWETC.com. At that website you can
also read and/or get a free download of my book,
Psychological Evaluations in Litigation: A Practical
Guide for Attorneys and Insurance Adjusters.
Page 2
Additionally, in last month’s newsletter I offered
to provide free telephone consultations to any
attorney if they would simply email me the report.
That offer will stand as long as I have the time to
provide that service. If you have a problematic
report and want an expert opinion on how to expose
the flaws, be my guest. I just love my work!
Before we go any further it is important to
understand that psychological diagnoses are made
after the doctor has considered as many as five
different sources of information: the patient’s life
history and their presenting symptoms or
complaints, the results of the doctor’s face-to-face
Mental Status Examination, the objective
psychological testing data, the patient’s medical
records and any sources of collateral information in
the form of interviews with the patient’s friends,
relatives and/or business associates.
Now on to the real sample questions from an
actual flawed report where the doctor diagnosed a
Major Depressive Disorder with no data supporting
that diagnosis and therefore no basis for finding that
the applicant/plaintiff had suffered a psychiatric
injury. For lack of a more creative way of handling
the situation I have called the doctor being deposed
“Dr. Smith,” and the patient, “Mr. Jones.”
QUESTIONS I WOULD NOT WANT TO BE
ASKED IF I WERE DR. SMITH
Dr. Smith, on page 36 of your report of January 12,
2015 you diagnosed a Major Depressive Disorder
with a numerical diagnostic code of 296.23. I am
handing you a copy of page 356 taken from the
DSM-IV-TR. Will you please confirm for me that
the numerical diagnostic code of 296.23 is reserved
for a Major Depressive Disorder, Single Episode,
Severe Without Psychotic Features?
Dr. Smith, as you can see from reading page 356, in
order to diagnose a Major Depressive Disorder
correctly the individual must present with at least
five of nine symptoms. In addition, eight of those
nine symptoms must be present “nearly every day.”
Can you tell me where in your report I can find the
information indicating that Mr. Jones complained of
at least five symptoms that were occurring “nearly
every day?”
Dr. Smith, do you agree that providing a complete
history of a patient’s complaints requires that you
describe their qualitative nature as well as provide
information about their frequency, intensity, duration,
onset and course over time?
Dr. Smith, will you please tell me where in your report
I can find a description of the qualitative nature of Mr.
Jones’s complaint of being “depressed”?
Dr. Smith, will you please tell me where in your report
I can find a description of the frequency of Mr.
Jones’s complaint of being “depressed”?
Dr. Smith, will you please tell me where in your report
I can find a description of the intensity of Mr. Jones’s
complaint of being “depressed”? (Note: Information
about the intensity of a symptom or a complaint is
typically obtained by the examining physician who
asks the patient to rate the severity of their complaint
on a clearly defined 10-point problem severity scale.)
Dr. Smith, will you please tell me where in your report
I can find a description of the duration of Mr. Jones’s
complaint of being “depressed” or how long an
episode lasts once it begins?
Dr. Smith, will you please tell me where in your report
I can find a description of the onset of Mr. Jones’s
complaint of being “depressed” or when he first
experienced that symptom?
Dr. Smith, will you please tell me where in your report
I can find a description of the course over time of Mr.
Jones’s complaint of being “depressed”?
Dr. Smith, considering that your report does not
provide a complete accounting of Mr. Jones’s
symptoms or complaints do you agree that there are
no historical data in your report indicating that Mr.
Jones had a Major Depressive Disorder at the time of
your examination?
Dr. Smith, considering that your report does not
provide a complete accounting of Mr. Jones’s
symptoms or complaints do you agree that your
history is incomplete?
Dr. Smith, will you please confirm for me that a
Mental Status Examination produces a set of
observations of the patient, which are made by the
doctor, using a relatively standard set of examining
techniques and questions?
Page 3
Dr. Smith, in discussing the results of your Mental
Status Examination on page 7 of your report you
summarily stated that Mr. Jones was “depressed.”
Will you please tell me where in your report of your
Mental Status Examination of Mr. Jones you
described what you actually observed that led you
to that conclusion?
Dr. Smith, will you please confirm for me that in
performing a Mental Status Examination the
physician uses a battery of techniques to observe
and assess the patient’s memory and concentration
or attention?
Dr. Smith, will you please tell me where in your
report of your Mental Status Examination I can read
about the measurements you made of Mr. Jones’s
memory or concentration and attention that
indicates you had observed some deficits in his
performance in these areas?
Dr. Smith, will you please confirm for me that in
performing a Mental Status Examination the
physician uses a battery of techniques to observe
and assess the patient’s insight and judgment?
Dr. Smith, will you please tell me where in your
report of your Mental Status Examination I can read
about the measurements you made of Mr. Jones’s
insight and judgment that indicates you had
observed some deficits in his performance in these
areas?
Dr. Smith, will you please confirm for me that on
pages 11 through 16 you described the results of
your administration and the results of six
psychological tests you gave Mr. Jones?
Dr. Smith, do you agree that the first responsibility
of any medical-evaluator in psychology or
psychiatry is determining the credibility or
truthfulness of the person being evaluated?
Dr. Smith, with the exception of the Minnesota
Multiphasic Personality Inventory (MMPI) will you
confirm for me that none of the six tests in your test
battery have any methods for assessing Mr. Jones’s
credibility or truthfulness?
Dr. Smith, will you please confirm for me that
interpreting an MMPI is a two-step process in which
the first step involves interpreting the validity scale
scores that indicate if the individual has completed the
test in an honest and forthright manner?
Dr. Smith, will you please confirm for me that it is
only permissible to move on to the second step and
interpret the patient’s MMPI clinical scale scores and
make statements about their personality and possible
psychopathology if their validity scale scores indicate
they were honest and frank in completing the test?
Dr. Smith, will you please confirm for me that on page
14 you stated that Mr. Jones’s scores on the MMPI
indicated that he completed the test in an honest and
frank manner and that you then went ahead and
interpreted his clinical scale scores to indicate that he
was depressed?
Dr. Smith, I would like you to turn to page 13 of your
report where you provided some of the T-Scores Mr.
Jones received on the MMPI. Will you please confirm
for me that Mr. Jones received a T-Score of 107 on the
F Scale and a T-Score of 78 on the Lie (L) Scale?
Dr. Smith, will you please confirm for me that a T-
Score of 70 or larger on the MMPI is interpretable?
Dr. Smith, are you aware that an L or Lie Scale T-
Score of 70 or greater has been specifically defined in
the psychological testing literature as being
characteristic of individuals “who are deliberately
trying to avoid answering the MMPI frankly and
honestly”?
Dr. Smith, are you aware that once an individual has
been demonstrated not to be answering the MMPI
items frankly and honestly that all interpretations of
the remaining scores must cease and nothing further
can be said about their psychological status?
Dr. Smith, will you please confirm for me that the F
Scale on the MMPI is a validity scale that provides
information about the patient’s possibly attempting to
simulate symptoms?
Page 4
This is the eighty-first of a series of monthly newsletters
aimed at providing information about pre-deposition/pre-
trial consultations, psychological evaluations and treatment
that may be of interest to attorneys and insurance adjusters
working in the areas of workers’ compensation and
personal injury. If you have not received some or all of
our past newsletters listed on the next page, and would like
copies, send us an email requesting the newsletter(s) that
you would like forwarded to you.
Pre-deposition/Pre-trial consults
involving reports of an
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(e-mail us at DrLeckartWETC@gmail.com
for more information)
Dr. Smith, given what we’ve talked about today, do
you believe that in the report you wrote about Mr.
Jones that you have provided a complete and accurate
accounting of Mr. Jones that warrants the diagnosis of
a Major Depressive Disorder?
Dr. Smith, considering all of today’s questions and
answers would you like to change any of the
conclusions you arrived at in your report of January
12, 2015?
Overall, a doctor faced with a line of questioning
that is described above really has no answers for the
questions posed that will allow them to maintain any
semblance of credibility for their diagnostic
conclusions. Obviously, there really is no trick to
“apricots.” All that is needed is a thorough knowledge
of psychology, the nature of the psychological
examination process, figuring out where the doctor
has fallen short and made errors in drawing their
conclusions, and a plan to ask direct and pointed
questions about the contents of their report that leaves
the doctor no wiggle room to escape.
Dr. Smith, with regard to Mr. Jones’s F Scale T-Score
of 107 will you please confirm for me that a score of
this magnitude indicates that with respect to Mr.
Jones’s symptoms he was exaggerating, embellishing,
over-reporting, attempting to simulate or what some
observers would call “faking” or “malingering”?
Dr. Smith, will you please tell me where in your report
I can read your conclusion that Mr. Jones was
attempting to simulate symptoms at the time of your
examination?
Dr. Smith, isn’t it correct that despite Mr. Jones’s
elevated scores on the Lie Scale and the F Scale that
indicate he was not honest and frank during your
examination but attempting to simulate symptoms that
you seemingly ignored this obvious conclusion and
went on to state that the MMPI clinical scale scores
indicate he was depressed?
Dr. Smith, will you please tell me where in your report
I can read about your review of records from any
psychologist or psychiatrist who agreed with your
diagnosis of a Major Depressive Disorder?
Dr. Smith, considering Mr. Jones’s history and
complaints as described in your report, your Mental
Status Examination data, the results of your
psychological testing, and your review of the medical
records, will you please tell me where in your report I
can find the evidence that indicates that Mr. Jones has
ever had a Major Depressive Disorder?

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APRICOTS - Preparing For Psych Depositions

  • 1. APRICOTS – Preparing For Psych Depositions Pre-Deposition/Pre-Trial Consult Reports: No matter where you are in the world as long as your report is in English, you can send it to me and I can provide you with a critique and a list of questions to ask the doctor during their testimony. Browse Dr. Leckart’s Book, Psychological Evaluations in Litigation: A Practical Guide for Attorneys and Insurance Adjusters at www.DrLeckartWETC.com THE WETC PSYCHOLOGY NEWSLETTER Dr. Bruce Leckart "Find the Truth, Tell the Story" Westwood Evaluation & Treatment Center 11340 Olympic Blvd., Suite 303, Los Angeles, CA 90064 (844)444-8898, DrLeckartWETC@gmail.com, www.DrLeckartWETC.com October, 2015 Volume 1, Issue 81 No one doubts that when it comes to psych reports written for workers’ compensation or personal injury litigation there is no lack of substantially flawed reports. However, attorneys simply are not trained to find and expose those flaws during the doctor’s deposition, trial testimony or in a written brief. That’s where I come in. I absolutely love writing detailed critiques of psychological and psychiatric reports documenting the errors in those reports and telling the attorneys just how to question the doctor or write briefs that will expose the defects and lead to more just settlements and awards. For reasons that are quite mundane I call those reports, “Apricots.” In December, 2013 I started focusing my monthly newsletters on helping attorneys take depositions without my assistance. In the ensuing months I wrote about six “Rules” to be followed for better deposition outcomes. In my October, 2014 newsletter I pointed out that the weakest link in every psych report is the doctor’s diagnosis. I also noted the best questions to ask a doctor during a deposition demonstrate that there are insufficient data in the doctor’s report to support their diagnostic conclusions. Getting back to my December, 2013 newsletter I pointed out that it really doesn’t matter which side of the fence you’re on, plaintiff or applicant, or defense. Essentially, if you feel the doctor has over-diagnosed or under-diagnosed, the basic question is the same. Do the data support the doctor’s conclusions? Specifically in the case of a “wash-out,” there is insufficient information to justify concluding the patient has no psychological disorder. Similarly in the case of a “wash-in” the doctor has insufficient information to support the disorder or disorders they diagnosed. This month’s newsletter provides a sample of the questions a defense attorney might ask. I just as easily could have provided a series of questions for a plaintiff’s or applicant’s attorney. Questions such as those found below appear in each and every one of my reports. If you want to avoid the expense of an “apricot” report I encourage you to use the questions provided below as a model in preparing your cross-examination. If you want to see what a complete report looks like please go to my website, which is www.DrLeckartWETC.com. At that website you can also read and/or get a free download of my book, Psychological Evaluations in Litigation: A Practical Guide for Attorneys and Insurance Adjusters.
  • 2. Page 2 Additionally, in last month’s newsletter I offered to provide free telephone consultations to any attorney if they would simply email me the report. That offer will stand as long as I have the time to provide that service. If you have a problematic report and want an expert opinion on how to expose the flaws, be my guest. I just love my work! Before we go any further it is important to understand that psychological diagnoses are made after the doctor has considered as many as five different sources of information: the patient’s life history and their presenting symptoms or complaints, the results of the doctor’s face-to-face Mental Status Examination, the objective psychological testing data, the patient’s medical records and any sources of collateral information in the form of interviews with the patient’s friends, relatives and/or business associates. Now on to the real sample questions from an actual flawed report where the doctor diagnosed a Major Depressive Disorder with no data supporting that diagnosis and therefore no basis for finding that the applicant/plaintiff had suffered a psychiatric injury. For lack of a more creative way of handling the situation I have called the doctor being deposed “Dr. Smith,” and the patient, “Mr. Jones.” QUESTIONS I WOULD NOT WANT TO BE ASKED IF I WERE DR. SMITH Dr. Smith, on page 36 of your report of January 12, 2015 you diagnosed a Major Depressive Disorder with a numerical diagnostic code of 296.23. I am handing you a copy of page 356 taken from the DSM-IV-TR. Will you please confirm for me that the numerical diagnostic code of 296.23 is reserved for a Major Depressive Disorder, Single Episode, Severe Without Psychotic Features? Dr. Smith, as you can see from reading page 356, in order to diagnose a Major Depressive Disorder correctly the individual must present with at least five of nine symptoms. In addition, eight of those nine symptoms must be present “nearly every day.” Can you tell me where in your report I can find the information indicating that Mr. Jones complained of at least five symptoms that were occurring “nearly every day?” Dr. Smith, do you agree that providing a complete history of a patient’s complaints requires that you describe their qualitative nature as well as provide information about their frequency, intensity, duration, onset and course over time? Dr. Smith, will you please tell me where in your report I can find a description of the qualitative nature of Mr. Jones’s complaint of being “depressed”? Dr. Smith, will you please tell me where in your report I can find a description of the frequency of Mr. Jones’s complaint of being “depressed”? Dr. Smith, will you please tell me where in your report I can find a description of the intensity of Mr. Jones’s complaint of being “depressed”? (Note: Information about the intensity of a symptom or a complaint is typically obtained by the examining physician who asks the patient to rate the severity of their complaint on a clearly defined 10-point problem severity scale.) Dr. Smith, will you please tell me where in your report I can find a description of the duration of Mr. Jones’s complaint of being “depressed” or how long an episode lasts once it begins? Dr. Smith, will you please tell me where in your report I can find a description of the onset of Mr. Jones’s complaint of being “depressed” or when he first experienced that symptom? Dr. Smith, will you please tell me where in your report I can find a description of the course over time of Mr. Jones’s complaint of being “depressed”? Dr. Smith, considering that your report does not provide a complete accounting of Mr. Jones’s symptoms or complaints do you agree that there are no historical data in your report indicating that Mr. Jones had a Major Depressive Disorder at the time of your examination? Dr. Smith, considering that your report does not provide a complete accounting of Mr. Jones’s symptoms or complaints do you agree that your history is incomplete? Dr. Smith, will you please confirm for me that a Mental Status Examination produces a set of observations of the patient, which are made by the doctor, using a relatively standard set of examining techniques and questions?
  • 3. Page 3 Dr. Smith, in discussing the results of your Mental Status Examination on page 7 of your report you summarily stated that Mr. Jones was “depressed.” Will you please tell me where in your report of your Mental Status Examination of Mr. Jones you described what you actually observed that led you to that conclusion? Dr. Smith, will you please confirm for me that in performing a Mental Status Examination the physician uses a battery of techniques to observe and assess the patient’s memory and concentration or attention? Dr. Smith, will you please tell me where in your report of your Mental Status Examination I can read about the measurements you made of Mr. Jones’s memory or concentration and attention that indicates you had observed some deficits in his performance in these areas? Dr. Smith, will you please confirm for me that in performing a Mental Status Examination the physician uses a battery of techniques to observe and assess the patient’s insight and judgment? Dr. Smith, will you please tell me where in your report of your Mental Status Examination I can read about the measurements you made of Mr. Jones’s insight and judgment that indicates you had observed some deficits in his performance in these areas? Dr. Smith, will you please confirm for me that on pages 11 through 16 you described the results of your administration and the results of six psychological tests you gave Mr. Jones? Dr. Smith, do you agree that the first responsibility of any medical-evaluator in psychology or psychiatry is determining the credibility or truthfulness of the person being evaluated? Dr. Smith, with the exception of the Minnesota Multiphasic Personality Inventory (MMPI) will you confirm for me that none of the six tests in your test battery have any methods for assessing Mr. Jones’s credibility or truthfulness? Dr. Smith, will you please confirm for me that interpreting an MMPI is a two-step process in which the first step involves interpreting the validity scale scores that indicate if the individual has completed the test in an honest and forthright manner? Dr. Smith, will you please confirm for me that it is only permissible to move on to the second step and interpret the patient’s MMPI clinical scale scores and make statements about their personality and possible psychopathology if their validity scale scores indicate they were honest and frank in completing the test? Dr. Smith, will you please confirm for me that on page 14 you stated that Mr. Jones’s scores on the MMPI indicated that he completed the test in an honest and frank manner and that you then went ahead and interpreted his clinical scale scores to indicate that he was depressed? Dr. Smith, I would like you to turn to page 13 of your report where you provided some of the T-Scores Mr. Jones received on the MMPI. Will you please confirm for me that Mr. Jones received a T-Score of 107 on the F Scale and a T-Score of 78 on the Lie (L) Scale? Dr. Smith, will you please confirm for me that a T- Score of 70 or larger on the MMPI is interpretable? Dr. Smith, are you aware that an L or Lie Scale T- Score of 70 or greater has been specifically defined in the psychological testing literature as being characteristic of individuals “who are deliberately trying to avoid answering the MMPI frankly and honestly”? Dr. Smith, are you aware that once an individual has been demonstrated not to be answering the MMPI items frankly and honestly that all interpretations of the remaining scores must cease and nothing further can be said about their psychological status? Dr. Smith, will you please confirm for me that the F Scale on the MMPI is a validity scale that provides information about the patient’s possibly attempting to simulate symptoms?
  • 4. Page 4 This is the eighty-first of a series of monthly newsletters aimed at providing information about pre-deposition/pre- trial consultations, psychological evaluations and treatment that may be of interest to attorneys and insurance adjusters working in the areas of workers’ compensation and personal injury. If you have not received some or all of our past newsletters listed on the next page, and would like copies, send us an email requesting the newsletter(s) that you would like forwarded to you. Pre-deposition/Pre-trial consults involving reports of an ·IME ·QME ·PQME ·AME ·APQME (e-mail us at DrLeckartWETC@gmail.com for more information) Dr. Smith, given what we’ve talked about today, do you believe that in the report you wrote about Mr. Jones that you have provided a complete and accurate accounting of Mr. Jones that warrants the diagnosis of a Major Depressive Disorder? Dr. Smith, considering all of today’s questions and answers would you like to change any of the conclusions you arrived at in your report of January 12, 2015? Overall, a doctor faced with a line of questioning that is described above really has no answers for the questions posed that will allow them to maintain any semblance of credibility for their diagnostic conclusions. Obviously, there really is no trick to “apricots.” All that is needed is a thorough knowledge of psychology, the nature of the psychological examination process, figuring out where the doctor has fallen short and made errors in drawing their conclusions, and a plan to ask direct and pointed questions about the contents of their report that leaves the doctor no wiggle room to escape. Dr. Smith, with regard to Mr. Jones’s F Scale T-Score of 107 will you please confirm for me that a score of this magnitude indicates that with respect to Mr. Jones’s symptoms he was exaggerating, embellishing, over-reporting, attempting to simulate or what some observers would call “faking” or “malingering”? Dr. Smith, will you please tell me where in your report I can read your conclusion that Mr. Jones was attempting to simulate symptoms at the time of your examination? Dr. Smith, isn’t it correct that despite Mr. Jones’s elevated scores on the Lie Scale and the F Scale that indicate he was not honest and frank during your examination but attempting to simulate symptoms that you seemingly ignored this obvious conclusion and went on to state that the MMPI clinical scale scores indicate he was depressed? Dr. Smith, will you please tell me where in your report I can read about your review of records from any psychologist or psychiatrist who agreed with your diagnosis of a Major Depressive Disorder? Dr. Smith, considering Mr. Jones’s history and complaints as described in your report, your Mental Status Examination data, the results of your psychological testing, and your review of the medical records, will you please tell me where in your report I can find the evidence that indicates that Mr. Jones has ever had a Major Depressive Disorder?