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What caused the
financial crisis? Where
do we go from here?
 NICVA CEE Masterclass 21
 October 2011
 Dr Esmond Birnie, Chief
 Economist, PwC
Global growth
Trends and prospects

World GDP growth
(Although doubts over 2011 – 2013+ divergence “East” and “West”)
                          7

                                                                  Long-run average = 3.5%
                          6
  GDP Growth (% Y-on-Y)




                          5

                          4

                          3

                          2

                          1

                          0

                          -1

                          -2
                               1973   1976   1979   1982   1985   1988     1991    1994     1997   2000   2003   2006   2009   2012



Source: IMF, www.imf.org/external/pubind.htm (exchange rate weighted).


PwC                                                                                                                     CEE Masterclass 21
                                                                                                                            October 20112
Greedy, wicked bankers?


• 9 February 2009 Vince Cable MP said the guillotine should be
restored for bankers


• Rage against bankers may make us feel better in the short term,
 but long term solution require a reasoned consideration of the full
causes of the downturn


• Responsibility may be more widespread




CEE Masterclass                                                  21 October 2011
PwC                                                                            3
Banking crisis- too much debt across the board


• By 2008 UK banks debts had risen to twice level of GDP (increases in
some other economies but UK, and RoI (421%) and especially Iceland
(580%), unusually high)


• Importantly, other debt/GDP also rose during the 2000s (in the
UK from 150% in 1987 to about 300% in 2009)


• A moderately rapid increase until 2003 and then acceleration 2003-8


• But, in terms of banks, PwC analysis (2010) suggests spike in gross
debts/income in UK 2008-09

CEE Masterclass                                                21 October 2011
PwC                                                                          4
Banking crisis- complexity of derivatives


• Various financial instruments (CDOs) obscured , because made less
direct, the connection between creditors and lenders


• Note, also, how far system internationalised-
US sub-prime becomes our problem


English/Scottish banks linked to RoI


French/German banks tied to Greece etc.



CEE Masterclass                                              21 October 2011
PwC                                                                        5
Banking crisis of 2007-8 begins- sub-prime
problems

• A long boom in US (and UK, RoI) house prices came to an end (1997-
2006 US house prices up 124%, UK 97%)
• Interest rate rises provoking sub-prime mortgage defaults in US
• Transmission from sub-prime problems through to US banks, to
wider (and international) capital markets


• February 2008 Northern Rock nationalised
• Bear Stearns rescued by Fed Reserve loan


• BUT when the next crippled bank came along, no appetite for bail out


CEE Masterclass                                               21 October 2011
PwC                                                                         6
The banking crisis of 2007-8, continued…


• Lehmans failed 15 September 2008
• 18 September 2008 money draining out (half Trillion$ in hours)
• Bail outs- AIG, 10 largest US banks, Chrysler, GM, RBS and HBOS
• Plus in US guarantees to Fannie Mae + Freddie Mac


RBS- thro. Acquisition of ABN Amro had acquired a lot of US“trailer
parks”.
A.m. of 7 October 2008 shares plunged 30%
“This was once the conservative Scottish bank where I had opened my
first account as a teenager. It was now on its knees. And what, its
chairman asked were we going to do about it”, Alistair Darling

CEE Masterclass                                              21 October 2011
PwC                                                                        7
Role of regulators- too little (or too much, or too
ineffective)?

“We have been in a casino where the government was handing out free
chips and the regulators were buying drinks and telling us which
numbers to bet on”, Eamon Butler.


• Some critics say “not enough” regulation


• The regulation we had “missed” a lot– failing banks got through
various stress tests/not allowing for sovereign default


• Unintended consequences- work to the limit, making banks more
similar hence intensifying risk
• For sure, the regulators did not see 2007-8 coming
CEE Masterclass                                               21 October 2011
PwC                                                                         8
Central banks- Greenspan’s (Chairman US Federal
Reserve) folly?

• Were US interest rates kept too low for too long in the 2000s?


OR, a reasonable response to a “glut” in global savings?


• The role of a central banker like the person at a party who has to take
away the punch bowl before anyone too drunk?!


• Also criticism of Bank of England’s role
• For sure plenty of “hubris” about– assertions by Gordon Brown and
others that the business cycle had more or less gone for good


CEE Masterclass                                                  21 October 2011
PwC                                                                            9
Governments’ response- support the banks at all
costs

• Avoid repeat of 1930-32 (in the US thousands of high street banks
fail, spending power collapses, output and jobs slump by 20%)



• Too big to fail?




CEE Materclass                                                21 October 2011
PwC                                                                        10
The triumph, or the limits of Keynesianism


Richard Lucas 2009 “I guess everyone is a Keynesian in the fox hole.”


• Government deficits and borrowing rose to wartime levels (without a
world war)


• Does the experience of the US and UK represent “antibiotic
resistance” given previous doses of the Keynesian “medicine”?




CEE Masterclass                                                 21 October 2011
PwC                                                                          11
The nightmare continues


• The global financial crisis of 2007+ did not really end in 2009-10




• In fact, mutated


• The issue has become not just the solvency of banks but the solvency
of states and governments too




CEE Masterclass                                                 21 October 2011
PwC                                                                          12
Euro crisis- a flawed project?


• Two bail outs of Greece (even now its debt/GDP ratio almost
certainly unsustainable)
• The bail outs of RoI and Portugal
• Spain and Italy may be waiting in the wings (“too big” for current EU
rescue funds)
• When the euro started in the early 2000s many economists
questioned its wisdom as constituted– was continental Europe really a
“natural currency area”?
• Design flaws:
- When “PIIGS” competitiveness moved out of line with Germany- no
ready adjustment
- monetary union without fiscal union
CEE Masterclass                                               21 October 2011
PwC                                                                   Slide 13
Fixing the euro?- unpalatable alternatives


• PIGS try to work (i.e. grow) their way out of debt--- is this
feasible/austerity very painful and maybe counterproductive?


• Some/all of the weaker economies leave (be pushed out) of the euro -
they could then achieve a devaluation (at huge cost ,default… Argentina
in Europe, although is the Latin American precedent actually
favourable [NEXT SLIDE]?)


• A debt write off---- may well be “necessary” but burden on Germany
• Share the defence of “sovereign debt” e.g. through eurobonds----
might restore some market confidence but, again, a heavy demand on
Germany

CEE Masterclass                                                   21 October 2011
PwC                                                                       Slide 14
Don’t cry for me Argentina: after default, a
bounce?
                                               Argentina and Greece
  4

  3
                                                                                                        GDP, growth rate
                                                                                                        compared to
  2
                                                                                                        previous
                                                                                                        quarter, seasonally
  1                                                                                                     adjusted.

  0                                                                                                     Period beginning:
       2       3        4        5         6        7         8        9        10       11   12   13   Q3 1993, Argentina
  -1                                                                                                    Q2 2003, Greece

  -2

  -3

  -4

  -5

  -6
                         Years since Argentinian currency board and Greece joining the euro


 Source: World Bank, National accounts:

PwC
Economic outlook still brightest in
     BRICs, stormiest in Europe (forecast GDP growth
     for 2011)                                 Russia

              2.7      UK

Canada                                                                Germany                                                       4.2
                                                              1.2
                                                    Ireland
                                                                                    3.0

                                                    1.0                        Greece


US
                                                      France                                  -3.8
            1.6                                         1.8                                                                             Japan


                                                Spain                                 Italy
     Mexico
                                                                                                                                        -0.5
                                                              0.6                   0.9                                China
                    4.3
                                                                                                                                      9.5
                                                                                   India*

                                                                                               8.0
                                           Brazil                                                            Australia
                                                                    South Africa

                                                         4.4                            3.2                                         2.8
       * CEE Masterclass 21 October 2011
                                                                                                Source: PwC main scenario for GDP growth in 2011
      PwC                                                                                                                                 16
Global economic outlook- what next?


• Double dip- not inevitable, but possible. Vulnerable because
weaknesses in each of the US, Japan + eurozone


• Confidence (or lack of) is the key– like the 1930s but this need not
imply that the same solution would work this time
• “Balance sheet and de-leveraging issues”, Ben Bernanke


• Hence, real danger of lost decades scenario- like Japan in 1990s


• Over the long run 2010-2030 rapid growth in emerging economies
should continue (subject to Russia is problematic, India and China may
have their own credit bubble + supply side difficulties)
CEE Masterclass                                                  21 October 2011
PwC                                                                           17
Where this “rebalancing” could take us- The
World Economy by 2050

                                                                                       Total E7 GDP (PPP) as
                                                                                            % of total G7
Compare the total size
                                                                    2007                       c. 60
of the seven biggest
emerging economies                                                  2010                       c. 75
to the seven largest                                                2020                       100
“Western” economies
(the G7)*                                                           2050                       200

                 GDP per capita in Shanghai in 2010 already similar to
                 that in some northern English counties



Source: PwC forecasts.
* BRICs+Indonesia+Turkey+Mexico,compared to US+Japan+Germany+UK+France+Italy+Canada.


PwC
A sign of change
Falling behind China




      GDP per capita in Shanghai in
      2010 already similar to that in
      most of NI (allowing for cost of
      living– purchasing power
      parity)



PwC                                      19
If we can think about growth


UK Growth Review (Cable+Osborne)   Preliminary to the NI Executive
November 2010+...                  Economic Strategy – identified
                                   strategic aims for Executive...
• Planning
                                   • Innovation
• De-regulation
                                   • Employability
• Competition
                                   • Competitiveness
• Skills
                                   • Business growth
• Infrastructure
                                   • Infrastructure
• SMEs
                                   THIS FRAMEWORK GOOD BUT
• Rural economy
                                     THREATS:
• Open data
                                   - Too much focus on short term
                                     (employment vs productivity)?
                                   - When will we get the Economic
                                     Strategy, PfG, decisions on Corp. Tax
                                     and SFA?
PwC                                                              CEE Masterclass 21
                                                                      October 2011
Corporation Tax reduction?
Headline observations

• Need to re-balance NI economy
• Long term (25 yr) project
• To extent CT reductions lead to greater competitiveness and hence more
  investment, jobs and growth– hence welcome UK wide reductions
• But what about lower NI specific rate?
• Experience of ROI suggests slow burn and/or one of a number of factors
• The powers to vary tax more widely (in addition to Corporation Tax) are of particular
  interest
• The cost of cutting Corporation Tax must be borne by the Executive


IN SHORT, CT REDUCTION WOULD WORK BEST AS PART OF A PACKAGE OF
   FISCAL INCENTIVES (e.g. TAX CREDITS, APD, AVOID THE ENGLISH SYSTEM OF
   ELECTRICITY PRICING, ALCOHOL EXCISE)


PwC                                                                         CEE Masterclass 21
                                                                               October 201121
Going for growth
(continued)


Goals identified for UK economy by McKinsey (2010), these apply also to NI
• Improve productivity (not just in manufacturing but services too)
• Become an excellent location for FDI
• Get transport and energy infrastructure right
• Maximise opportunities to earn export revenues from health and educational
  sectors
• Innovate through clustering
• Devolution below the regional government level (i.e. to dynamic cities and local
  government)
• Minimise the economic negatives of an ageing population and take the economic
  opportunities




PwC
Banking reform proposals in the UK- the Vickers’
Commission plan

• Not total separation of high street from investment banks, but
firewalls and extra safety cushions
• Goes against grain of international banking development over several
decades (but reminiscent of US Glass-Steagall Act of 1930s)
• “The proposals will damage London’s competitive position”, Martin
Jacomb FT
• OR “…old fashioned principles- better capitalised, less leveraged
and focused on the needs of customers..”, Sarah Brooks Consumer
Focus Head of Financial Services
• Higher capital requirements
• Cost to banks £5-10 bn p.a., social cost of £1-3 bn but p.a. cost of a
bail out/downswing c ÂŁ 40bn

CEE Masterclass                                                  21 October 2011
PwC                                                                             23
This time really is different or back to the Hungry
Thirties?
                                 “Now”, 2007+        “Then”, Great
                                                     Depression
                                                     1929-30s
             Decline in output   UK GDP down         UK GDP down
                                 7.1% RoI GDP        5.7%
                                 down c. 15% most    “RoI” GDP flat
                                 of Western c.5-6%   US, Germany
                                 decline             c.20% decline
             Decline in          US down 5.3%        US down 20.5%
             employment
             Absolute living     UK,US real GDP
             standards           per head about 4-
                                 5 times higher
             World trade         By 2011 back to     By 1932 30%
                                 2007 peak           down in volume
CEE Masterclass                                                       21 October 2011
PwC                                                                                24
This time is different or back to the Hungry
Thirties?

                      “Now” 2007+                 “Then”, Great
                                                  Depression 1929-30s
 Inflation            > B of England’s 2%         UK deflation
                      target but still            Other countries, e.g. US,
                      “moderate”                  Germany severe
                                                  deflation
 Bank failures        c. 100 worldwide            1000s (espec. US
                                                  including high street)
 Exchange rates       Extent of $, ÂŁ, euro, Yen   Great volatility/beggar
                      volatility limited          my neighbour
                      Most of EU locked in        UK advantage of early
                      euro                        exit from gold standard
                      Undervalued Yuan
 Global econ leader   US being passed by          30 year hiatus UK to US
                      China
CEE Masterclass                                                   21 October 2011
PwC                                                                            25
Some lessons from 2007-11 global crisis


• General failure of markets or of a particular market (finance)?
• Governments also failed (e.g. regulation, lax monetary policy)?
• The failure to see the crisis coming was pretty widespread (naïve
belief business cycle had been banished)


• We now criticise financial innovation but, sometimes, it contributes
to growth


• Globalisation may have reduced the frequency of “minor”
downswings but also ensured when we get a crisis it is a big one!



CEE Masterclass                                                 21 October 2011
PwC                                                                          26
Be “G-local”: the impact of the world crisis on
your sector

• Less (private) cash about


• Less public funding (and less EU too)


• NI has hitherto had a very large community and voluntary sector
with many individual organisations


• Moving into a world of retrenchment, consolidation with a premium
on capacity building and management




CEE Masterclass                                              27 October 2011
PwC                                                                       27
Thank you, any questions?


Esmond Birnie
PwC | Chief Economist
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  • 1. www.pwc.co.uk What caused the financial crisis? Where do we go from here? NICVA CEE Masterclass 21 October 2011 Dr Esmond Birnie, Chief Economist, PwC
  • 2. Global growth Trends and prospects World GDP growth (Although doubts over 2011 – 2013+ divergence “East” and “West”) 7 Long-run average = 3.5% 6 GDP Growth (% Y-on-Y) 5 4 3 2 1 0 -1 -2 1973 1976 1979 1982 1985 1988 1991 1994 1997 2000 2003 2006 2009 2012 Source: IMF, www.imf.org/external/pubind.htm (exchange rate weighted). PwC CEE Masterclass 21 October 20112
  • 3. Greedy, wicked bankers? • 9 February 2009 Vince Cable MP said the guillotine should be restored for bankers • Rage against bankers may make us feel better in the short term, but long term solution require a reasoned consideration of the full causes of the downturn • Responsibility may be more widespread CEE Masterclass 21 October 2011 PwC 3
  • 4. Banking crisis- too much debt across the board • By 2008 UK banks debts had risen to twice level of GDP (increases in some other economies but UK, and RoI (421%) and especially Iceland (580%), unusually high) • Importantly, other debt/GDP also rose during the 2000s (in the UK from 150% in 1987 to about 300% in 2009) • A moderately rapid increase until 2003 and then acceleration 2003-8 • But, in terms of banks, PwC analysis (2010) suggests spike in gross debts/income in UK 2008-09 CEE Masterclass 21 October 2011 PwC 4
  • 5. Banking crisis- complexity of derivatives • Various financial instruments (CDOs) obscured , because made less direct, the connection between creditors and lenders • Note, also, how far system internationalised- US sub-prime becomes our problem English/Scottish banks linked to RoI French/German banks tied to Greece etc. CEE Masterclass 21 October 2011 PwC 5
  • 6. Banking crisis of 2007-8 begins- sub-prime problems • A long boom in US (and UK, RoI) house prices came to an end (1997- 2006 US house prices up 124%, UK 97%) • Interest rate rises provoking sub-prime mortgage defaults in US • Transmission from sub-prime problems through to US banks, to wider (and international) capital markets • February 2008 Northern Rock nationalised • Bear Stearns rescued by Fed Reserve loan • BUT when the next crippled bank came along, no appetite for bail out CEE Masterclass 21 October 2011 PwC 6
  • 7. The banking crisis of 2007-8, continued… • Lehmans failed 15 September 2008 • 18 September 2008 money draining out (half Trillion$ in hours) • Bail outs- AIG, 10 largest US banks, Chrysler, GM, RBS and HBOS • Plus in US guarantees to Fannie Mae + Freddie Mac RBS- thro. Acquisition of ABN Amro had acquired a lot of US“trailer parks”. A.m. of 7 October 2008 shares plunged 30% “This was once the conservative Scottish bank where I had opened my first account as a teenager. It was now on its knees. And what, its chairman asked were we going to do about it”, Alistair Darling CEE Masterclass 21 October 2011 PwC 7
  • 8. Role of regulators- too little (or too much, or too ineffective)? “We have been in a casino where the government was handing out free chips and the regulators were buying drinks and telling us which numbers to bet on”, Eamon Butler. • Some critics say “not enough” regulation • The regulation we had “missed” a lot– failing banks got through various stress tests/not allowing for sovereign default • Unintended consequences- work to the limit, making banks more similar hence intensifying risk • For sure, the regulators did not see 2007-8 coming CEE Masterclass 21 October 2011 PwC 8
  • 9. Central banks- Greenspan’s (Chairman US Federal Reserve) folly? • Were US interest rates kept too low for too long in the 2000s? OR, a reasonable response to a “glut” in global savings? • The role of a central banker like the person at a party who has to take away the punch bowl before anyone too drunk?! • Also criticism of Bank of England’s role • For sure plenty of “hubris” about– assertions by Gordon Brown and others that the business cycle had more or less gone for good CEE Masterclass 21 October 2011 PwC 9
  • 10. Governments’ response- support the banks at all costs • Avoid repeat of 1930-32 (in the US thousands of high street banks fail, spending power collapses, output and jobs slump by 20%) • Too big to fail? CEE Materclass 21 October 2011 PwC 10
  • 11. The triumph, or the limits of Keynesianism Richard Lucas 2009 “I guess everyone is a Keynesian in the fox hole.” • Government deficits and borrowing rose to wartime levels (without a world war) • Does the experience of the US and UK represent “antibiotic resistance” given previous doses of the Keynesian “medicine”? CEE Masterclass 21 October 2011 PwC 11
  • 12. The nightmare continues • The global financial crisis of 2007+ did not really end in 2009-10 • In fact, mutated • The issue has become not just the solvency of banks but the solvency of states and governments too CEE Masterclass 21 October 2011 PwC 12
  • 13. Euro crisis- a flawed project? • Two bail outs of Greece (even now its debt/GDP ratio almost certainly unsustainable) • The bail outs of RoI and Portugal • Spain and Italy may be waiting in the wings (“too big” for current EU rescue funds) • When the euro started in the early 2000s many economists questioned its wisdom as constituted– was continental Europe really a “natural currency area”? • Design flaws: - When “PIIGS” competitiveness moved out of line with Germany- no ready adjustment - monetary union without fiscal union CEE Masterclass 21 October 2011 PwC Slide 13
  • 14. Fixing the euro?- unpalatable alternatives • PIGS try to work (i.e. grow) their way out of debt--- is this feasible/austerity very painful and maybe counterproductive? • Some/all of the weaker economies leave (be pushed out) of the euro - they could then achieve a devaluation (at huge cost ,default… Argentina in Europe, although is the Latin American precedent actually favourable [NEXT SLIDE]?) • A debt write off---- may well be “necessary” but burden on Germany • Share the defence of “sovereign debt” e.g. through eurobonds---- might restore some market confidence but, again, a heavy demand on Germany CEE Masterclass 21 October 2011 PwC Slide 14
  • 15. Don’t cry for me Argentina: after default, a bounce? Argentina and Greece 4 3 GDP, growth rate compared to 2 previous quarter, seasonally 1 adjusted. 0 Period beginning: 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 Q3 1993, Argentina -1 Q2 2003, Greece -2 -3 -4 -5 -6 Years since Argentinian currency board and Greece joining the euro Source: World Bank, National accounts: PwC
  • 16. Economic outlook still brightest in BRICs, stormiest in Europe (forecast GDP growth for 2011) Russia 2.7 UK Canada Germany 4.2 1.2 Ireland 3.0 1.0 Greece US France -3.8 1.6 1.8 Japan Spain Italy Mexico -0.5 0.6 0.9 China 4.3 9.5 India* 8.0 Brazil Australia South Africa 4.4 3.2 2.8 * CEE Masterclass 21 October 2011 Source: PwC main scenario for GDP growth in 2011 PwC 16
  • 17. Global economic outlook- what next? • Double dip- not inevitable, but possible. Vulnerable because weaknesses in each of the US, Japan + eurozone • Confidence (or lack of) is the key– like the 1930s but this need not imply that the same solution would work this time • “Balance sheet and de-leveraging issues”, Ben Bernanke • Hence, real danger of lost decades scenario- like Japan in 1990s • Over the long run 2010-2030 rapid growth in emerging economies should continue (subject to Russia is problematic, India and China may have their own credit bubble + supply side difficulties) CEE Masterclass 21 October 2011 PwC 17
  • 18. Where this “rebalancing” could take us- The World Economy by 2050 Total E7 GDP (PPP) as % of total G7 Compare the total size 2007 c. 60 of the seven biggest emerging economies 2010 c. 75 to the seven largest 2020 100 “Western” economies (the G7)* 2050 200 GDP per capita in Shanghai in 2010 already similar to that in some northern English counties Source: PwC forecasts. * BRICs+Indonesia+Turkey+Mexico,compared to US+Japan+Germany+UK+France+Italy+Canada. PwC
  • 19. A sign of change Falling behind China GDP per capita in Shanghai in 2010 already similar to that in most of NI (allowing for cost of living– purchasing power parity) PwC 19
  • 20. If we can think about growth UK Growth Review (Cable+Osborne) Preliminary to the NI Executive November 2010+... Economic Strategy – identified strategic aims for Executive... • Planning • Innovation • De-regulation • Employability • Competition • Competitiveness • Skills • Business growth • Infrastructure • Infrastructure • SMEs THIS FRAMEWORK GOOD BUT • Rural economy THREATS: • Open data - Too much focus on short term (employment vs productivity)? - When will we get the Economic Strategy, PfG, decisions on Corp. Tax and SFA? PwC CEE Masterclass 21 October 2011
  • 21. Corporation Tax reduction? Headline observations • Need to re-balance NI economy • Long term (25 yr) project • To extent CT reductions lead to greater competitiveness and hence more investment, jobs and growth– hence welcome UK wide reductions • But what about lower NI specific rate? • Experience of ROI suggests slow burn and/or one of a number of factors • The powers to vary tax more widely (in addition to Corporation Tax) are of particular interest • The cost of cutting Corporation Tax must be borne by the Executive IN SHORT, CT REDUCTION WOULD WORK BEST AS PART OF A PACKAGE OF FISCAL INCENTIVES (e.g. TAX CREDITS, APD, AVOID THE ENGLISH SYSTEM OF ELECTRICITY PRICING, ALCOHOL EXCISE) PwC CEE Masterclass 21 October 201121
  • 22. Going for growth (continued) Goals identified for UK economy by McKinsey (2010), these apply also to NI • Improve productivity (not just in manufacturing but services too) • Become an excellent location for FDI • Get transport and energy infrastructure right • Maximise opportunities to earn export revenues from health and educational sectors • Innovate through clustering • Devolution below the regional government level (i.e. to dynamic cities and local government) • Minimise the economic negatives of an ageing population and take the economic opportunities PwC
  • 23. Banking reform proposals in the UK- the Vickers’ Commission plan • Not total separation of high street from investment banks, but firewalls and extra safety cushions • Goes against grain of international banking development over several decades (but reminiscent of US Glass-Steagall Act of 1930s) • “The proposals will damage London’s competitive position”, Martin Jacomb FT • OR “…old fashioned principles- better capitalised, less leveraged and focused on the needs of customers..”, Sarah Brooks Consumer Focus Head of Financial Services • Higher capital requirements • Cost to banks ÂŁ5-10 bn p.a., social cost of ÂŁ1-3 bn but p.a. cost of a bail out/downswing c ÂŁ 40bn CEE Masterclass 21 October 2011 PwC 23
  • 24. This time really is different or back to the Hungry Thirties? “Now”, 2007+ “Then”, Great Depression 1929-30s Decline in output UK GDP down UK GDP down 7.1% RoI GDP 5.7% down c. 15% most “RoI” GDP flat of Western c.5-6% US, Germany decline c.20% decline Decline in US down 5.3% US down 20.5% employment Absolute living UK,US real GDP standards per head about 4- 5 times higher World trade By 2011 back to By 1932 30% 2007 peak down in volume CEE Masterclass 21 October 2011 PwC 24
  • 25. This time is different or back to the Hungry Thirties? “Now” 2007+ “Then”, Great Depression 1929-30s Inflation > B of England’s 2% UK deflation target but still Other countries, e.g. US, “moderate” Germany severe deflation Bank failures c. 100 worldwide 1000s (espec. US including high street) Exchange rates Extent of $, ÂŁ, euro, Yen Great volatility/beggar volatility limited my neighbour Most of EU locked in UK advantage of early euro exit from gold standard Undervalued Yuan Global econ leader US being passed by 30 year hiatus UK to US China CEE Masterclass 21 October 2011 PwC 25
  • 26. Some lessons from 2007-11 global crisis • General failure of markets or of a particular market (finance)? • Governments also failed (e.g. regulation, lax monetary policy)? • The failure to see the crisis coming was pretty widespread (naĂŻve belief business cycle had been banished) • We now criticise financial innovation but, sometimes, it contributes to growth • Globalisation may have reduced the frequency of “minor” downswings but also ensured when we get a crisis it is a big one! CEE Masterclass 21 October 2011 PwC 26
  • 27. Be “G-local”: the impact of the world crisis on your sector • Less (private) cash about • Less public funding (and less EU too) • NI has hitherto had a very large community and voluntary sector with many individual organisations • Moving into a world of retrenchment, consolidation with a premium on capacity building and management CEE Masterclass 27 October 2011 PwC 27
  • 28. Thank you, any questions? Esmond Birnie PwC | Chief Economist Direct: +44 (0)2890415808 | Mobile: +44 (0)7850907892 Email: esmond.birnie@uk.pwc.com This publication has been prepared for general guidance on matters of interest only, and does not constitute professional advice. You should not act upon the information contained in this publication without obtaining specific professional advice. No representation or warranty (express or implied) is given as to the accuracy or completeness of the information contained in this publication, and, to the extent permitted by law, PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP, its members, employees and agents do not accept or assume any liability, responsibility or duty of care for any consequences of you or anyone else acting, or refraining to act, in reliance on the information contained in this publication or for any decision based on it. Š 2011 PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. All rights reserved. In this document, “PwC” refers to PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP (a limited liability partnership in the United Kingdom) which is a member firm of PricewaterhouseCoopers International Limited, each member firm of which is a separate legal entity.