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TALYBE, Bio and Fair:
an option to respect the     “an innovative line of
                             environmentally friendly
                             detergents, with fully
                             vegetable formulas and
people and the environment   organic and Fair Trade
                             ingredients”

                                                        1
The Brazilian folk song describes the

“There is a way to                   essence of the commitment that the
                                     women, quebradieras of the babassu
                                     coconut, live each day to ensure their

change society,                      survival and the survival of their families
                                     and the pre-Amazonian forest where the
                                     babassu comes from.

participate without                  The detergents project was not created
                                     in the wake of a fashion, but on the firm
                                     belief that applying fair trade means
the fear of being a                  restoring dignity to people and to Mother
                                     Earth.

woman!”                              This work began in 2007and is still
                                     ongoing, ensuring that every detail is
                                     ethical and environmental and is treated
                                     with care.

                                     The exhibition unites and highlights
                                     the main features of this ambitious
                                     project called Talybe fair trade, which
                                     is co-sponsored by a network of Italian
                                     Fair Trade organization: LiberoMondo,
                                     Mondo Solidale, in collaboration with
                                     Equomercato.




                     www.talybe.it                                             2
The tree of life
         The babassu coconut palm is commonly             The use of this natural resource is
         called, in the Brazilian state of Maranhão      therefore to preserve the Brazilian forest,
         where it grows, the tree of life, because       as well as to support the lives of thousands
         from it you can produce: food for humans        of agro-farming families. As a matter of fact
         and livestock; resistant fibers for baskets     300,000 families depend on this plant.
         and roof tiles for houses; leaves for           The productive activities relating to
         organic fertilizers; coal for kitchen stoves.   babaçu are many and fundamental
         In particular the seeds are used for: oil       both for families and for the entire
         and flour for food; oil and vegetable fats      rural communities. Not only do they
         for soaps; cosmetics and detergents.            provide an income, they enable the
                                                         people to remain in the rural areas and
         The babassu coconut palm is a species           strengthen the role of women, but they
         endemic to the Amazonian region,                also strengthen the social cohesion and
         where it grows in a large area of roughly       can thus be considered a real means
         18 million hectares. Its rational and           for protecting the rights of the agro-
         sustainable use actively contributes to         farming families. The babaçu is thus not
         the preservation of this important plant        only a source of income but it also a
         species of the pre-Amazon zone.                 cultural and traditional element for entire
         The babaçu coconut, which is the fruit of       communities.
         the plant, is harvested without being cut.




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Although all the babassu coconut
                                   palm parts are vital for the lives of the

It takes a seed...                 population of many Maranhão state
                                   provinces, the seed is without a doubt the
                                   most precious gift, because babassu oil is

to make an organic-fair            made from it. It is the real protagonist of
                                   the Talybe organic solidarity detergents .


detergent!                         The use of babaçu oil, which is made in
                                   Brazil with organic certification and is used
                                   for producing surfactants, offers several
                                   important advantages, such as:
                                      produce environmentally friendly
                                      surfactants, eliminating the molecules
                                      of petrochemical origin;
                                      preserve the pre-Amazon forest,
                                      rather than destroying it;
                                      provide a reliable source of income
                                      for tens of thousands of rural families
                                      who are struggling to remain in
                                      their lands of origin and to defend
                                      their right;
                                      respect the health of people who
                                      use detergents and cleaners;
                                      respect the environment where
                                      the detergents, once used,
                                      are released.



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Since the 80s the condition of the rural        groups (associations and cooperatives)

Babaçu   population of the Maranhão state has
         become more critical. This is due to the
         strengthening of property rights of large
                                                         of farmers and babacu walnut pickers,
                                                         in order to improve working conditions,
                                                         increase the technical and professional

Livre!   landowners, the destruction of babaçu
         palms (to make room for pastures and
         crops for livestock ) and the privatization
         of large forest areas.
                                                         knowledge and defend the rights of rural
                                                         communities.
                                                         ASSEMA’s thematic areas of intervention
                                                         are: family farming, food safety,
                                                         cooperative movement, sustainable rural
         The agro-farming families in many               development, the fight for human rights,
         territories decided to react to this            “educação do campo”, strengthening of
         situation by joining together in                women’s role in rural area communities
         cooperatives, associations and small            and creating income and employment.
         businesses based on the principles
                            of a solidarity and
                            partnership economy.         After a long period of claims and
                            This stand, the initiative   struggles ASSEMA got approval, in 14
                            of many leaders of           municipalities of the Maranhão state, of
                            rural communities and        the “Babaçu Livre” Law which provides
                            trade unions, led to the     free access for collecting fruits and
                            foundation in 1989,          prohibits the cutting of trees and the
                            in the Mearim region,        indiscriminate exploitation of the land
                            of the NGO ASSEMA            (caused by intensive farming and relevant
                            (Associação em Áreas         use of pesticides, herbicides and chemical
                            de Assentamento no           fertilizers) .
                            Estado do Maranhão).

                             ASSEMA supports
                             and coordinates
                             the work of various



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Coppalj: vegetable fiber as resource
One of the most valued resources of the     The “quebradeiras” members leave the
babaçu coconut palm is the excellent        picked nuts in some of the collection
vegetable fibers that are made from         centers owned by Coppalj. Every week
the leaves and trunks of these old trees:   Coppalj carries out the collection and
thanks to them, in fact, you can build      processing of the nuts (10 tons per week,
spacious baskets and resistant structures   which produce mainly oil and flour).
for house roofs.                            The Coppalj cooperative pays
In the municipality of Lago do Junco        babaçu nuts at a higher price than
(Médio Mearim region of the Maranhão        the quebradeiras could get from the
state) the Coppalj cooperative, which       “intermediaries” of local processing
was no doubt inspired by the strength       industries.
and versatility of the babassu fiber,       The nuts purchased from Coppalj are only
coordinates, supports and defends the       those of the highest quality, organically
work of many coconut picker members         certified and the oil extraction method
(mostly women, “quebradeiras de coco” of    too is natural and does not use solvents.
neighboring communities).

                                            The Coppalj Cooperative is a member
                                            of ASSEMA and it relies on it for all
                                            the technical training programs and
                                            assistance for the benefit of its members.




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Attention to detail...

               The babassu oil, imported into Italy by the   The Allegrini company produces
               Mondo Solidale Cooperative, is of high        surfactants from babassu oil (it has also
               quality, because it is made from the best     created a small but qualified laboratory
               nuts and it is organically certified.         for research and development of
                                                             surfactants in its factory).
               In order to preserve and bring out the        For these same reasons we chose a
               product’s best features we have chosen        medium-sized company as supplier
               two small Italian processors who are          for the formulation and production of
               always very attentive when it comes           detergents. It is the Pierpaoli company,
               to the production process. Quality was        which is specialized in the production of
               not the only criteria used in creating        conventional and organic detergents.
               Talybe detergents: we also looked at the
               production of surfactants, which in fact,
               is managed by a few large multinational
               companies, so as far as processing is
               concerned we have favored small-
               medium sized Italian companies.




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The organic babassu oil is not the         also effective... Easy to say, but it   showed superior performance
only fair trade quality ingredient         is actually quite complex to get        in comparison to the market
found in the Talybe home and               fully vegetable formulas that have      leaders in cosmetics where organic
personal detergent product line.           not been tested on animals, that        certification is required.
In fact SIPA and Phalada, two              do not contain preservatives or         The Talybe wellness lines are both
Indians Fair Trade organizations,          synthetic perfumes, that do not         effective and gentle: they are
produce the essential oils used in         have ethoxylates, sequestering          dermatologically tested and can
formulations (perfumes are not             agents, parabens and formaldehyde       be recommended even for people
used).                                     yet which can also offer excellent      who are intolerant to standard
SIPA produces several essential            washing performance and skin care.      petrochemical surfactants and
oils: true lavender, tea tree, orange,                                             synthetic perfumes. In particular,
lemon, cedar wood, vetiver.                The detergents were subjected           the personal wellness line has been
Phalada produces lemon grass,              to comparative effectiveness            dermatologically tested on sensitive
citronella, rosemary, peppermint,          tests, which showed that the            skin and has been nickel tested and
cinnamon, lime, strong mint, wild          Talybe household detergents             physiological pH.
Indian basil, rosemary essential oils.     product line ensures equal or
                                           better performance than leading
                                           conventional products on the            The products are certified by
Talybe detergents are not only             market.                                 ICEA (BioEcoDetergent and
organic and fair-trade but are                                                     BioEcoCosmetics) and LAV (stop to
                                           The Talybe wellness line was            animal testing).
                                           evaluated by consumer tests which




                                         www.talybe.it                                                             8
Detergents, unfortunately, are     Let us now compare some

… and for the           a major source of domestic
                        pollution, once they have been
                        released into the soil, and this
                                                           traditional detergents and
                                                           Talybe.
                                                           A washing machine with a dose
                        fact could not be neglected        of traditional laundry detergent
                        when we developed the Talybe       requires about 300 liters of

environment             detergent product lines.

                        Detergents’ pollution level
                                                           water to be rendered harmless.
                                                           A washing machine with a dose
                                                           of Talybe laundry detergent
                        nowadays is no longer              requires about 48 liters allowing
                        measured using the old             a saving of 84% of water.
                        biodegradability concept. It is
                        measured by evaluating the         On average, Talybe detergents
                        toxicity of substances: this       give 70% water savings and as
                        evaluation, called the Critical    a result an equal reduction in
                        Dilution Volume, is calculated     the amount of environmental
                        by measuring how much water        impact when using detergents.
                        is used to dilute the product to   If, for example, all of Italy were
                        make molecules harmless to         to use for one year Talybe
                        aquatic life.                      laundry detergent or others
                                                           with the same percentage
                                                           of water saving, instead of
                                                           conventional detergents, a
                                                           saving could be made of more
                                                           than 60 cubic kilometers of
                                                           water: one and a half times the
                                                           Garda Lake ... And we are only
                                                           talking of laundry!




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Along with the classic way of selling detergents
                           in “disposable” containers (nowadays “recyclable
                           containers” ...), we have, in recent years, seen the
                           introduction of the bulk refill method, which allows
                           you to refill the container, usually rather large (10
                           or 20 kg), that can be used over and over for the
                           same function. We too promote reusing instead of
                           recycling (i.e. - recycling plastic material in order to
                           regenerate new plastic), because reuse has less an
                           environmental impact and is energetically more
                           convenient than any form of recycling.
                           The consumer, therefore, has an excellent
                           opportunity to choose the method that respects the
                           environment the most.

                           Retailers (world shops, organic shops, etc..) too
                           have the same advantage: choosing the rigid plastic
                           containers (10 or 20 liter HDPE containers) for the sale
                           of products in bulk, and applying the reuse system,
                           is significantly more advantageous than any form of
                           recycling.

                           Let’s make a synthetic comparison between the three
                           most common sales systems for detergents sold in
                           Italy:

                           P The “classic” type, i.e. only recycling: the customer
                           buys the full plastic bottle, and once it is empty it is
                           thrown into the plastic recycling bin (the bottles are
                           collected, transported to specialized companies, the
                           plastic is melted and new containers are produced).

                           P The “mixed” type foresees reuse (by the consumer)
                           along with recycling (carried out by the dealer):
                           containers for the sale of detergent in bulk are
                           found in the store. The customer buys the detergent
                           by filling the empty bottle over and over. Instead,
                           once the large bulk container is empty the shop
                           owner places it in the appropriate plastic and paper
                           container for recycling: so in this case, containers are
                           used (usually 10 liter canisters) which are made of a
                           rigid outer cardboard box and an inner plastic bag
                           that, once emptied, is placed in the plastic recycling
                           bin. The shop owner then opens another container,
                           provided by the distributor, and the whole cycle is
                           repeated.

                           P The “reuse” type, however, foresees in all phases


Better
                           (distributor, retailer and customer) the use of
                           containers (cans and bottles) which are then reused,
                           without any sort of recycling. No waste is produced,
                           because the containers are continuously circulating.



to reuse than              Below are the steps related to the three different
                           types of distribution; the materials used, the relevant
                           passages, and energy costs. In conclusion an energy
                           balance is carried out.



to recicle!
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Less CO2 in the air!
Comparison of                                                                               Let’s look at the costs in
                                                                                            these steps. The amount
                                                                                            of Kg of carbon dioxide

energy costs...                                                                             emission in the following
                                                                                            three cases:


A)                                                  B)                                              C)




503,72                                                368,00                                          280,15




A. 503.72 kg of CO2 equivalent per 1000       B. 368.00 kg of CO2 equivalent per 1000       C. 280.15 kg of CO2 equivalent per 1000
liters of detergent product packaged          liters of detergent packaged where            liters of detergent packaged in system C
and distributed according to the “classic”    “mixed” recycling of the containers is        (only reuse) is foreseen when using Talybe
type (type A: recycling of all the bottles,   used for refilling (type B: external casing   detergents.
without distributing the detergent in         is made of cardboard and the inner bag is
bulk);                                        plastic);




                                                                                If we want to look at these numbers and
                                                                                percentages based on daily laundries in the washing
                                                                                machine we can conclude that: the reuse system
                                                                                enables you to use a 2KW washing machine for
                                                                                about 172 hours more than in system A and about
                                                                                75 hours more than the system B. The third system
                                                                                (only reuse) therefore allows for:

                                                                                P approximately 115 washes more than system A
                                                                                  (recycling only);

                                                                                P approximately 50 washes more than system B
                                                                                  (reuse + recycling).
                                                                                The reuse system thus proves to be the one that
                                                                                allows you to save more and have a much better
                                                                                performance over the first two systems.




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Talybe - organic and Fair Trade household detergents and personal hygiene products

  • 1. TALYBE, Bio and Fair: an option to respect the “an innovative line of environmentally friendly detergents, with fully vegetable formulas and people and the environment organic and Fair Trade ingredients” 1
  • 2. The Brazilian folk song describes the “There is a way to essence of the commitment that the women, quebradieras of the babassu coconut, live each day to ensure their change society, survival and the survival of their families and the pre-Amazonian forest where the babassu comes from. participate without The detergents project was not created in the wake of a fashion, but on the firm belief that applying fair trade means the fear of being a restoring dignity to people and to Mother Earth. woman!” This work began in 2007and is still ongoing, ensuring that every detail is ethical and environmental and is treated with care. The exhibition unites and highlights the main features of this ambitious project called Talybe fair trade, which is co-sponsored by a network of Italian Fair Trade organization: LiberoMondo, Mondo Solidale, in collaboration with Equomercato. www.talybe.it 2
  • 3. The tree of life The babassu coconut palm is commonly The use of this natural resource is called, in the Brazilian state of Maranhão therefore to preserve the Brazilian forest, where it grows, the tree of life, because as well as to support the lives of thousands from it you can produce: food for humans of agro-farming families. As a matter of fact and livestock; resistant fibers for baskets 300,000 families depend on this plant. and roof tiles for houses; leaves for The productive activities relating to organic fertilizers; coal for kitchen stoves. babaçu are many and fundamental In particular the seeds are used for: oil both for families and for the entire and flour for food; oil and vegetable fats rural communities. Not only do they for soaps; cosmetics and detergents. provide an income, they enable the people to remain in the rural areas and The babassu coconut palm is a species strengthen the role of women, but they endemic to the Amazonian region, also strengthen the social cohesion and where it grows in a large area of roughly can thus be considered a real means 18 million hectares. Its rational and for protecting the rights of the agro- sustainable use actively contributes to farming families. The babaçu is thus not the preservation of this important plant only a source of income but it also a species of the pre-Amazon zone. cultural and traditional element for entire The babaçu coconut, which is the fruit of communities. the plant, is harvested without being cut. www.talybe.it 3
  • 4. Although all the babassu coconut palm parts are vital for the lives of the It takes a seed... population of many Maranhão state provinces, the seed is without a doubt the most precious gift, because babassu oil is to make an organic-fair made from it. It is the real protagonist of the Talybe organic solidarity detergents . detergent! The use of babaçu oil, which is made in Brazil with organic certification and is used for producing surfactants, offers several important advantages, such as: produce environmentally friendly surfactants, eliminating the molecules of petrochemical origin; preserve the pre-Amazon forest, rather than destroying it; provide a reliable source of income for tens of thousands of rural families who are struggling to remain in their lands of origin and to defend their right; respect the health of people who use detergents and cleaners; respect the environment where the detergents, once used, are released. www.talybe.it 4
  • 5. Since the 80s the condition of the rural groups (associations and cooperatives) Babaçu population of the Maranhão state has become more critical. This is due to the strengthening of property rights of large of farmers and babacu walnut pickers, in order to improve working conditions, increase the technical and professional Livre! landowners, the destruction of babaçu palms (to make room for pastures and crops for livestock ) and the privatization of large forest areas. knowledge and defend the rights of rural communities. ASSEMA’s thematic areas of intervention are: family farming, food safety, cooperative movement, sustainable rural The agro-farming families in many development, the fight for human rights, territories decided to react to this “educação do campo”, strengthening of situation by joining together in women’s role in rural area communities cooperatives, associations and small and creating income and employment. businesses based on the principles of a solidarity and partnership economy. After a long period of claims and This stand, the initiative struggles ASSEMA got approval, in 14 of many leaders of municipalities of the Maranhão state, of rural communities and the “Babaçu Livre” Law which provides trade unions, led to the free access for collecting fruits and foundation in 1989, prohibits the cutting of trees and the in the Mearim region, indiscriminate exploitation of the land of the NGO ASSEMA (caused by intensive farming and relevant (Associação em Áreas use of pesticides, herbicides and chemical de Assentamento no fertilizers) . Estado do Maranhão). ASSEMA supports and coordinates the work of various www.talybe.it 5
  • 6. Coppalj: vegetable fiber as resource One of the most valued resources of the The “quebradeiras” members leave the babaçu coconut palm is the excellent picked nuts in some of the collection vegetable fibers that are made from centers owned by Coppalj. Every week the leaves and trunks of these old trees: Coppalj carries out the collection and thanks to them, in fact, you can build processing of the nuts (10 tons per week, spacious baskets and resistant structures which produce mainly oil and flour). for house roofs. The Coppalj cooperative pays In the municipality of Lago do Junco babaçu nuts at a higher price than (Médio Mearim region of the Maranhão the quebradeiras could get from the state) the Coppalj cooperative, which “intermediaries” of local processing was no doubt inspired by the strength industries. and versatility of the babassu fiber, The nuts purchased from Coppalj are only coordinates, supports and defends the those of the highest quality, organically work of many coconut picker members certified and the oil extraction method (mostly women, “quebradeiras de coco” of too is natural and does not use solvents. neighboring communities). The Coppalj Cooperative is a member of ASSEMA and it relies on it for all the technical training programs and assistance for the benefit of its members. www.talybe.it 6
  • 7. Attention to detail... The babassu oil, imported into Italy by the The Allegrini company produces Mondo Solidale Cooperative, is of high surfactants from babassu oil (it has also quality, because it is made from the best created a small but qualified laboratory nuts and it is organically certified. for research and development of surfactants in its factory). In order to preserve and bring out the For these same reasons we chose a product’s best features we have chosen medium-sized company as supplier two small Italian processors who are for the formulation and production of always very attentive when it comes detergents. It is the Pierpaoli company, to the production process. Quality was which is specialized in the production of not the only criteria used in creating conventional and organic detergents. Talybe detergents: we also looked at the production of surfactants, which in fact, is managed by a few large multinational companies, so as far as processing is concerned we have favored small- medium sized Italian companies. www.talybe.it 7
  • 8. The organic babassu oil is not the also effective... Easy to say, but it showed superior performance only fair trade quality ingredient is actually quite complex to get in comparison to the market found in the Talybe home and fully vegetable formulas that have leaders in cosmetics where organic personal detergent product line. not been tested on animals, that certification is required. In fact SIPA and Phalada, two do not contain preservatives or The Talybe wellness lines are both Indians Fair Trade organizations, synthetic perfumes, that do not effective and gentle: they are produce the essential oils used in have ethoxylates, sequestering dermatologically tested and can formulations (perfumes are not agents, parabens and formaldehyde be recommended even for people used). yet which can also offer excellent who are intolerant to standard SIPA produces several essential washing performance and skin care. petrochemical surfactants and oils: true lavender, tea tree, orange, synthetic perfumes. In particular, lemon, cedar wood, vetiver. The detergents were subjected the personal wellness line has been Phalada produces lemon grass, to comparative effectiveness dermatologically tested on sensitive citronella, rosemary, peppermint, tests, which showed that the skin and has been nickel tested and cinnamon, lime, strong mint, wild Talybe household detergents physiological pH. Indian basil, rosemary essential oils. product line ensures equal or better performance than leading conventional products on the The products are certified by Talybe detergents are not only market. ICEA (BioEcoDetergent and organic and fair-trade but are BioEcoCosmetics) and LAV (stop to The Talybe wellness line was animal testing). evaluated by consumer tests which www.talybe.it 8
  • 9. Detergents, unfortunately, are Let us now compare some … and for the a major source of domestic pollution, once they have been released into the soil, and this traditional detergents and Talybe. A washing machine with a dose fact could not be neglected of traditional laundry detergent when we developed the Talybe requires about 300 liters of environment detergent product lines. Detergents’ pollution level water to be rendered harmless. A washing machine with a dose of Talybe laundry detergent nowadays is no longer requires about 48 liters allowing measured using the old a saving of 84% of water. biodegradability concept. It is measured by evaluating the On average, Talybe detergents toxicity of substances: this give 70% water savings and as evaluation, called the Critical a result an equal reduction in Dilution Volume, is calculated the amount of environmental by measuring how much water impact when using detergents. is used to dilute the product to If, for example, all of Italy were make molecules harmless to to use for one year Talybe aquatic life. laundry detergent or others with the same percentage of water saving, instead of conventional detergents, a saving could be made of more than 60 cubic kilometers of water: one and a half times the Garda Lake ... And we are only talking of laundry! www.talybe.it 9
  • 10. Along with the classic way of selling detergents in “disposable” containers (nowadays “recyclable containers” ...), we have, in recent years, seen the introduction of the bulk refill method, which allows you to refill the container, usually rather large (10 or 20 kg), that can be used over and over for the same function. We too promote reusing instead of recycling (i.e. - recycling plastic material in order to regenerate new plastic), because reuse has less an environmental impact and is energetically more convenient than any form of recycling. The consumer, therefore, has an excellent opportunity to choose the method that respects the environment the most. Retailers (world shops, organic shops, etc..) too have the same advantage: choosing the rigid plastic containers (10 or 20 liter HDPE containers) for the sale of products in bulk, and applying the reuse system, is significantly more advantageous than any form of recycling. Let’s make a synthetic comparison between the three most common sales systems for detergents sold in Italy: P The “classic” type, i.e. only recycling: the customer buys the full plastic bottle, and once it is empty it is thrown into the plastic recycling bin (the bottles are collected, transported to specialized companies, the plastic is melted and new containers are produced). P The “mixed” type foresees reuse (by the consumer) along with recycling (carried out by the dealer): containers for the sale of detergent in bulk are found in the store. The customer buys the detergent by filling the empty bottle over and over. Instead, once the large bulk container is empty the shop owner places it in the appropriate plastic and paper container for recycling: so in this case, containers are used (usually 10 liter canisters) which are made of a rigid outer cardboard box and an inner plastic bag that, once emptied, is placed in the plastic recycling bin. The shop owner then opens another container, provided by the distributor, and the whole cycle is repeated. P The “reuse” type, however, foresees in all phases Better (distributor, retailer and customer) the use of containers (cans and bottles) which are then reused, without any sort of recycling. No waste is produced, because the containers are continuously circulating. to reuse than Below are the steps related to the three different types of distribution; the materials used, the relevant passages, and energy costs. In conclusion an energy balance is carried out. to recicle! www.talybe.it 10
  • 11. Less CO2 in the air! Comparison of Let’s look at the costs in these steps. The amount of Kg of carbon dioxide energy costs... emission in the following three cases: A) B) C) 503,72 368,00 280,15 A. 503.72 kg of CO2 equivalent per 1000 B. 368.00 kg of CO2 equivalent per 1000 C. 280.15 kg of CO2 equivalent per 1000 liters of detergent product packaged liters of detergent packaged where liters of detergent packaged in system C and distributed according to the “classic” “mixed” recycling of the containers is (only reuse) is foreseen when using Talybe type (type A: recycling of all the bottles, used for refilling (type B: external casing detergents. without distributing the detergent in is made of cardboard and the inner bag is bulk); plastic); If we want to look at these numbers and percentages based on daily laundries in the washing machine we can conclude that: the reuse system enables you to use a 2KW washing machine for about 172 hours more than in system A and about 75 hours more than the system B. The third system (only reuse) therefore allows for: P approximately 115 washes more than system A (recycling only); P approximately 50 washes more than system B (reuse + recycling). The reuse system thus proves to be the one that allows you to save more and have a much better performance over the first two systems. www.talybe.it 11