This document discusses how a Cyber Security Management System (CSMS) and Software Update Management System (SUMS) fit together for vehicle certification. A CSMS follows ISO/SAE 21434 and ensures cybersecurity is managed across a carmaker's lifecycle, while a SUMS follows ISO AWI 24089 and manages over-the-air software updates. Both the CSMS and SUMS must be certified by a third party and their certificates are valid for 3 years. Vehicle type approval requires presenting valid CSMS and SUMS certificates as well as system validation reports, with the third party certifying compliance with regulations like UNECE R155.