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The end of what?
Clive Bates
Counterfactual
E-cigarette Summit UK
London
16 November 2023
1. The end of harm or nicotine?
0
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
Youth (ASH) Adults (ONS)
Million
British
people
Smoking and vaping in 2022
Millions of Brits
Source: Youth: ASH and YouGov (ASH) 2022 data age 11-17. Adult: Office for National Statistics(NHIS) 2022
data, age 16 or over. (Note the age ranges overlap for age 16 & 17)
The stock and flow problem
0
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
Youth (ASH) Adults (ONS)
Million
British
people
Smoking and vaping in 2022
Millions of Brits
Source: Youth: ASH and YouGov (ASH) 2022 data age 11-17. Adult: Office for National Statistics(NHIS) 2022
data, age 16 or over. (Note the age ranges overlap for age 16 & 17)
The stock and flow problem
Smoking
Vaping
only
Dual use
0
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
Youth (ASH) Adults (ONS)
Million
British
people
Smoking and vaping in 2022
Millions of Brits
Source: Youth: ASH and YouGov (ASH) 2022 data age 11-17. Adult: Office for National Statistics(NHIS) 2022
data, age 16 or over. (Note the age ranges overlap for age 16 & 17)
The stock and flow problem
Smoking
Vaping
only
Dual use
16 x
0
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
Youth (ASH) Adults (ONS)
Million
British
people
Smoking and vaping- youth and adults
Millions of Brits
Source: Youth: ASH and YouGov (ASH) 2022 data age 11-17. Adult: Office for National Statistics(NHIS) 2022
data, age 16 or over. (Note the age ranges overlap for age 16 & 17)
Public health needs to focus on the stock of adult smokers
Smoking
Vaping
only
Dual use
The public health
problem is here
Nearly all the
attention goes
here
Similar in the United States
0
5
10
15
20
25
30
35
40
Youth (NYTS) Adults (NHIS)
Million
Americans
Smoking and vaping in 2021
Millions of Americans
Source: National Youth Tobacco Survey (NYTS) 2021 data, National Health Interview Survey (NHIS) 2021
data. Graphic by Clive Bates. With thanks to Brad Rodu for data extraction and cross-tabulations.
Smoking
Vaping
only
Dual use
Millions
Youth
(NYTS)
Adults
(NHIS)
Vaping 1.53 7.8
Dual use 0.52 3.3
Smoking only 0.37 25.0
All smoking 0.89 28.3
15 x
Ending harm means addressing risks to the stock of
adult smokers
But the flow of new users dominates the policy
discourse
The flow of new nicotine users (United States, age 18-24)
Data extraction and graphics:
Brad Rodu, Professor of Medicine,
University of Louisville, U.S.
The flow of new nicotine users (age 18-24)
Smoking & vaping prevalence (%) Americans aged 18-24.
National Health Interview Survey, 2014-2022
Did not smoke before vaping
Vaping former smokers
Smoking & vaping
Smoking only
>70% reduction in smoking, >80%
reduction in exclusive smoking
Over time, the demand for
nicotine is far more robust
and resilient than any
particular way of taking it.
Data extraction and graphics:
Brad Rodu, Professor of Medicine,
University of Louisville, U.S.
Annotations: Clive Bates
The flow of new nicotine users (age 18-24)
Smoking & vaping prevalence (%) Americans aged 18-24.
National Health Interview Survey, 2014-2022
Data extraction and graphics:
Brad Rodu, Professor of Medicine,
University of Louisville, U.S.
Annotations: Clive Bates
Is this big green bar a
success or a failure?
Similar effect in Britain
Source: ASH(UK) and YouGov 2013-2023
Rising vape uptake
among never-users
The problem of fad-induced moral panics
0
5
10
15
20
25
30
35
2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 2016 2017 2018 2019 2020 2021 2022 2023 2024
Per
cent
Past 30-day e-cigarette & any combustible use
US high school students
National Youth Tobacco Survey 2011-23
E-cigarettes
Fad? Are we prone to overreacting to
transient trends and then
implementing de facto
irreversible bad policies?
Yet overall a very positive trend for public health
0
5
10
15
20
25
30
35
2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 2016 2017 2018 2019 2020 2021 2022 2023 2024
Per
cent
Past 30-day e-cigarette & any combustible use
US high school students
National Youth Tobacco Survey 2011-23
Any combustible
Cigarettes
E-cigarettes
And even an overall declining trend in US adolescent nicotine use
0
5
10
15
20
25
30
35
2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 2016 2017 2018 2019 2020 2021 2022 2023 2024
Per
cent
Past 30-day any tobacco / nicotine use
US high school students
National Youth Tobacco Survey 2011-23
Any tobacco / nicotine
The concern about youth
vaping is grounded in beliefs
about the end of nicotine use
Chief Medical Officer – plausible, compelling …and wrong
“If you smoke, vaping is much safer;
If you don't smoke, don't vape;
Marketing vapes to children is utterly
unacceptable.”
Chris Witty: The Times, 30 May 2023
The challenge for real-world public
health is to engage with the world as
it is, not as you would like it to be.
2. The demand for nicotine
Nicotine acts on
nicotinic cholinergic
receptors, triggering
the release of
dopamine, producing
rewarding psychoactive
effects.
Demand for
nicotine
Hedonistic
Dopamine
release
Sensory
Ritual & social
Functional
Cognitive
enhancement
Control stress
& anxiety
Weight &
appetite
Therapeutic
Neuro-
protection
Anti-
inflammatory
ADHD
Why might people use nicotine?
Demand for
nicotine
Hedonistic
Dopamine
release
Sensory
Ritual & social
Functional
Cognitive
enhancement
Control stress
& anxiety
Weight &
appetite
Therapeutic
Neuro-
protection
Anti-
inflammatory
Regulating
(e.g. ADHD)
Consumer
value
Self-
medication
If nicotine has functional
benefits and hedonistic appeal
for some people, it will always
be in demand
Why do people quit?
Gallus S, Muttarak R, Franchi M, et al. Why do smokers quit? Eur J Cancer Prev 2013;22(1):96–101.
People quit to avoid harm
Gallus S, Muttarak R, Franchi M, et al. Why do smokers quit? Eur J Cancer Prev 2013;22(1):96–101.
Main justification for tobacco control policies is to address harm
… but what if there is minimal harm?
If the harm is minimal, the main
deterrents are no longer
applicable and the demand for
nicotine may rise
Nicotine as a recreational drug
There is no compelling objection to the
recreational and even addictive use of
nicotine provided it is not shown to be
physically, psychologically, or socially
harmful to the user or to others.
The Lancet, 1991
Professor Michael Russell 1932-2009
Russell, M. A. H. (1991). Nicotine use after the year 2000. The Lancet,
337(8751), 1191–1192.
3. The future nicotine market
Socially acceptable psychoactive substances
Cigarettes will go the way of
vinyl records… overtaken by
better technologies, but
remaining a niche interest for
some
Smokeless tobacco
Tobacco based
Pure nicotine based
Heated
aerosol
Unheated
Items are not shown to scale
Oral nicotine products
Vaping products Heated tobacco products
“Heat-not-burn”
When delivered with minimal
harm, shouldn’t nicotine just be
classed as a socially acceptable
recreational stimulant?
Harm reduction in the 1980s – Skoal Bandits
1989 – UK bans Skoal Bandits “to protect youth”
Finland – the prohibitionists should be paying attention
EU snus ban
Sweden diverges
from Finland
Sweden
Finland
Maki J. The incentives created by a harm reduction approach to smoking cessation: Snus and smoking in Sweden and Finland. Int J
Drug Policy. Netherlands; 17 June 2014;26(6):569–74
Finland – the prohibitionists should be paying attention
EU snus ban
Norway converges
with Finland
Finland
Norway
Maki J. The incentives created by a harm reduction approach to smoking cessation: Snus and smoking in Sweden and Finland. Int J
Drug Policy. Netherlands; 17 June 2014;26(6):569–74
The end of tobacco or the end of combustion?
0
20
40
60
80
100
120
140
160
180
200
2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 2016 2017 2018 2019 2020 2021 2022
sales
volume
(bn)
50% reduction Cigarettes and cigarillos
The end of tobacco or the end of combustion
0
20
40
60
80
100
120
140
160
180
200
2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 2016 2017 2018 2019 2020 2021 2022
sales
volume
(bn)
Cigarettes and cigarillos
Heated tobacco
…the accelerated decline in cigarette-only
sales in Japan since 2016 corresponds to
the introduction and growth in the sales of
HTPs.
The risk-based distinction for policy is
between combustion and non-combustion
… not tobacco and non-tobacco
4. False risk perceptions drive bad policy
Terrible risk perceptions (1) – vaping compared to smoking
0 5 10 15 20 25 30 35 40
Much less harmful
Less harmful
Just as harmful
More harmful
Much more harmful
Don't know
Missing
Compared to smoking cigarettes, would you say that electronic cigarettes
are…
( % US adults 2020 )
43
Rare rightness– 2.6%
Vast wrongness – 62%
Confusion – 24%
Terrible risk perceptions (2) – is nicotine causing cancer
0 5 10 15 20 25 30 35
Strongly agree
Agree
Disagree
Strongly disagree
Don't know
Missing
How much do you agree or disagree that the nicotine in cigarettes is
the substance that causes most of the cancer caused by smoking?
( % US adults in 2019 )
44
56% severe
wrongness
Confusion – 19%
British risk perceptions not much better
Big wrongness – 43%
Confusion – 21%
False risk perceptions reduce the focus
on the stock of smokers…
… increase the focus on the flow of new
nicotine users
5. Who is to blame?
The tobacco control establishment is threatened
Three strategies are evident
1. Disinformation about harm
2. Shifting focus to nicotine
3. Non-health objectives
1. Fake news about health impacts
“These products are falsely marketed as
safer and more sustainable options to
deadly cigarettes, misleading consumers,
media and international institutions.”
1. Fake news about health impacts
“…over 40 organizations and professors from all
continents”.
10 November 2021
“These products are falsely marketed as
safer and more sustainable options to
deadly cigarettes, misleading consumers,
media and international institutions.”
1. Fake news about health impacts
1. Merchants of bad advice
“…try breathing
through a straw”
Official U.S. federal
government advice
2. WHO bad advice – anything but “try a vape”
National healthcare provider endorsement (with due caution)
2. Shifting goals to nicotine
3. Emphasis on non-health objectives
3. Better harm to 1 million people than profit to tobacco or vape industry
The tobacco control community finds
it…
“…difficult to accept that availability
of snus may have greater impacts in
reducing smoking than the regulations
we have spent a lifetime fighting for.”
Karl Erik Lund
Is tobacco control the new Big Tobacco?
Click the link to explore this question. It may surprise you. It should shock you.
Misinformation protects the cigarette trade, keeps people smoking, abuses trust,
violates autonomy, and prolongs the epidemic of disease and death
https://clivebates.com/is-tobacco-control-the-new-big-tobacco/
Thankyou!
Counterfactual
clivedbates@gmail.com
www.clivebates.com
@clive_bates

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The end of what? UK E-cigarette Summit 2023

  • 1. The end of what? Clive Bates Counterfactual E-cigarette Summit UK London 16 November 2023
  • 2. 1. The end of harm or nicotine?
  • 3. 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Youth (ASH) Adults (ONS) Million British people Smoking and vaping in 2022 Millions of Brits Source: Youth: ASH and YouGov (ASH) 2022 data age 11-17. Adult: Office for National Statistics(NHIS) 2022 data, age 16 or over. (Note the age ranges overlap for age 16 & 17) The stock and flow problem
  • 4. 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Youth (ASH) Adults (ONS) Million British people Smoking and vaping in 2022 Millions of Brits Source: Youth: ASH and YouGov (ASH) 2022 data age 11-17. Adult: Office for National Statistics(NHIS) 2022 data, age 16 or over. (Note the age ranges overlap for age 16 & 17) The stock and flow problem Smoking Vaping only Dual use
  • 5. 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Youth (ASH) Adults (ONS) Million British people Smoking and vaping in 2022 Millions of Brits Source: Youth: ASH and YouGov (ASH) 2022 data age 11-17. Adult: Office for National Statistics(NHIS) 2022 data, age 16 or over. (Note the age ranges overlap for age 16 & 17) The stock and flow problem Smoking Vaping only Dual use 16 x
  • 6. 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Youth (ASH) Adults (ONS) Million British people Smoking and vaping- youth and adults Millions of Brits Source: Youth: ASH and YouGov (ASH) 2022 data age 11-17. Adult: Office for National Statistics(NHIS) 2022 data, age 16 or over. (Note the age ranges overlap for age 16 & 17) Public health needs to focus on the stock of adult smokers Smoking Vaping only Dual use The public health problem is here Nearly all the attention goes here
  • 7. Similar in the United States 0 5 10 15 20 25 30 35 40 Youth (NYTS) Adults (NHIS) Million Americans Smoking and vaping in 2021 Millions of Americans Source: National Youth Tobacco Survey (NYTS) 2021 data, National Health Interview Survey (NHIS) 2021 data. Graphic by Clive Bates. With thanks to Brad Rodu for data extraction and cross-tabulations. Smoking Vaping only Dual use Millions Youth (NYTS) Adults (NHIS) Vaping 1.53 7.8 Dual use 0.52 3.3 Smoking only 0.37 25.0 All smoking 0.89 28.3 15 x
  • 8. Ending harm means addressing risks to the stock of adult smokers But the flow of new users dominates the policy discourse
  • 9. The flow of new nicotine users (United States, age 18-24) Data extraction and graphics: Brad Rodu, Professor of Medicine, University of Louisville, U.S.
  • 10. The flow of new nicotine users (age 18-24) Smoking & vaping prevalence (%) Americans aged 18-24. National Health Interview Survey, 2014-2022 Did not smoke before vaping Vaping former smokers Smoking & vaping Smoking only >70% reduction in smoking, >80% reduction in exclusive smoking Over time, the demand for nicotine is far more robust and resilient than any particular way of taking it. Data extraction and graphics: Brad Rodu, Professor of Medicine, University of Louisville, U.S. Annotations: Clive Bates
  • 11. The flow of new nicotine users (age 18-24) Smoking & vaping prevalence (%) Americans aged 18-24. National Health Interview Survey, 2014-2022 Data extraction and graphics: Brad Rodu, Professor of Medicine, University of Louisville, U.S. Annotations: Clive Bates Is this big green bar a success or a failure?
  • 12. Similar effect in Britain Source: ASH(UK) and YouGov 2013-2023 Rising vape uptake among never-users
  • 13. The problem of fad-induced moral panics 0 5 10 15 20 25 30 35 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 2016 2017 2018 2019 2020 2021 2022 2023 2024 Per cent Past 30-day e-cigarette & any combustible use US high school students National Youth Tobacco Survey 2011-23 E-cigarettes Fad? Are we prone to overreacting to transient trends and then implementing de facto irreversible bad policies?
  • 14. Yet overall a very positive trend for public health 0 5 10 15 20 25 30 35 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 2016 2017 2018 2019 2020 2021 2022 2023 2024 Per cent Past 30-day e-cigarette & any combustible use US high school students National Youth Tobacco Survey 2011-23 Any combustible Cigarettes E-cigarettes
  • 15. And even an overall declining trend in US adolescent nicotine use 0 5 10 15 20 25 30 35 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 2016 2017 2018 2019 2020 2021 2022 2023 2024 Per cent Past 30-day any tobacco / nicotine use US high school students National Youth Tobacco Survey 2011-23 Any tobacco / nicotine
  • 16. The concern about youth vaping is grounded in beliefs about the end of nicotine use
  • 17. Chief Medical Officer – plausible, compelling …and wrong “If you smoke, vaping is much safer; If you don't smoke, don't vape; Marketing vapes to children is utterly unacceptable.” Chris Witty: The Times, 30 May 2023 The challenge for real-world public health is to engage with the world as it is, not as you would like it to be.
  • 18. 2. The demand for nicotine
  • 19.
  • 20. Nicotine acts on nicotinic cholinergic receptors, triggering the release of dopamine, producing rewarding psychoactive effects.
  • 21. Demand for nicotine Hedonistic Dopamine release Sensory Ritual & social Functional Cognitive enhancement Control stress & anxiety Weight & appetite Therapeutic Neuro- protection Anti- inflammatory ADHD
  • 22. Why might people use nicotine? Demand for nicotine Hedonistic Dopamine release Sensory Ritual & social Functional Cognitive enhancement Control stress & anxiety Weight & appetite Therapeutic Neuro- protection Anti- inflammatory Regulating (e.g. ADHD) Consumer value Self- medication
  • 23. If nicotine has functional benefits and hedonistic appeal for some people, it will always be in demand
  • 24.
  • 25. Why do people quit? Gallus S, Muttarak R, Franchi M, et al. Why do smokers quit? Eur J Cancer Prev 2013;22(1):96–101.
  • 26. People quit to avoid harm Gallus S, Muttarak R, Franchi M, et al. Why do smokers quit? Eur J Cancer Prev 2013;22(1):96–101.
  • 27. Main justification for tobacco control policies is to address harm … but what if there is minimal harm?
  • 28. If the harm is minimal, the main deterrents are no longer applicable and the demand for nicotine may rise
  • 29. Nicotine as a recreational drug There is no compelling objection to the recreational and even addictive use of nicotine provided it is not shown to be physically, psychologically, or socially harmful to the user or to others. The Lancet, 1991 Professor Michael Russell 1932-2009 Russell, M. A. H. (1991). Nicotine use after the year 2000. The Lancet, 337(8751), 1191–1192.
  • 30. 3. The future nicotine market
  • 32. Cigarettes will go the way of vinyl records… overtaken by better technologies, but remaining a niche interest for some
  • 33. Smokeless tobacco Tobacco based Pure nicotine based Heated aerosol Unheated Items are not shown to scale Oral nicotine products Vaping products Heated tobacco products “Heat-not-burn”
  • 34. When delivered with minimal harm, shouldn’t nicotine just be classed as a socially acceptable recreational stimulant?
  • 35. Harm reduction in the 1980s – Skoal Bandits
  • 36. 1989 – UK bans Skoal Bandits “to protect youth”
  • 37. Finland – the prohibitionists should be paying attention EU snus ban Sweden diverges from Finland Sweden Finland Maki J. The incentives created by a harm reduction approach to smoking cessation: Snus and smoking in Sweden and Finland. Int J Drug Policy. Netherlands; 17 June 2014;26(6):569–74
  • 38. Finland – the prohibitionists should be paying attention EU snus ban Norway converges with Finland Finland Norway Maki J. The incentives created by a harm reduction approach to smoking cessation: Snus and smoking in Sweden and Finland. Int J Drug Policy. Netherlands; 17 June 2014;26(6):569–74
  • 39. The end of tobacco or the end of combustion? 0 20 40 60 80 100 120 140 160 180 200 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 2016 2017 2018 2019 2020 2021 2022 sales volume (bn) 50% reduction Cigarettes and cigarillos
  • 40. The end of tobacco or the end of combustion 0 20 40 60 80 100 120 140 160 180 200 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 2016 2017 2018 2019 2020 2021 2022 sales volume (bn) Cigarettes and cigarillos Heated tobacco …the accelerated decline in cigarette-only sales in Japan since 2016 corresponds to the introduction and growth in the sales of HTPs.
  • 41. The risk-based distinction for policy is between combustion and non-combustion … not tobacco and non-tobacco
  • 42. 4. False risk perceptions drive bad policy
  • 43. Terrible risk perceptions (1) – vaping compared to smoking 0 5 10 15 20 25 30 35 40 Much less harmful Less harmful Just as harmful More harmful Much more harmful Don't know Missing Compared to smoking cigarettes, would you say that electronic cigarettes are… ( % US adults 2020 ) 43 Rare rightness– 2.6% Vast wrongness – 62% Confusion – 24%
  • 44. Terrible risk perceptions (2) – is nicotine causing cancer 0 5 10 15 20 25 30 35 Strongly agree Agree Disagree Strongly disagree Don't know Missing How much do you agree or disagree that the nicotine in cigarettes is the substance that causes most of the cancer caused by smoking? ( % US adults in 2019 ) 44 56% severe wrongness Confusion – 19%
  • 45. British risk perceptions not much better Big wrongness – 43% Confusion – 21%
  • 46. False risk perceptions reduce the focus on the stock of smokers… … increase the focus on the flow of new nicotine users
  • 47. 5. Who is to blame?
  • 48.
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  • 51. The tobacco control establishment is threatened Three strategies are evident 1. Disinformation about harm 2. Shifting focus to nicotine 3. Non-health objectives
  • 52. 1. Fake news about health impacts “These products are falsely marketed as safer and more sustainable options to deadly cigarettes, misleading consumers, media and international institutions.”
  • 53. 1. Fake news about health impacts “…over 40 organizations and professors from all continents”. 10 November 2021 “These products are falsely marketed as safer and more sustainable options to deadly cigarettes, misleading consumers, media and international institutions.”
  • 54. 1. Fake news about health impacts
  • 55. 1. Merchants of bad advice “…try breathing through a straw” Official U.S. federal government advice
  • 56. 2. WHO bad advice – anything but “try a vape”
  • 57. National healthcare provider endorsement (with due caution)
  • 58. 2. Shifting goals to nicotine
  • 59. 3. Emphasis on non-health objectives
  • 60. 3. Better harm to 1 million people than profit to tobacco or vape industry
  • 61. The tobacco control community finds it… “…difficult to accept that availability of snus may have greater impacts in reducing smoking than the regulations we have spent a lifetime fighting for.” Karl Erik Lund
  • 62. Is tobacco control the new Big Tobacco? Click the link to explore this question. It may surprise you. It should shock you. Misinformation protects the cigarette trade, keeps people smoking, abuses trust, violates autonomy, and prolongs the epidemic of disease and death https://clivebates.com/is-tobacco-control-the-new-big-tobacco/
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Editor's Notes

  1. We somtimes forget that people smoke for a reason, and whether it is the functional effect of the drug or ‘addiction’ and relief from withdrawal or a bit of each, it hardly matter if you smoke– if you are a smoker these things matter to you. N Engl J Med. 2010 June 17; 362(24): 2295–2303. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2928221/
  2. Vaping products Top row shows: 1st generation cig-a-likes 2nd generation ego or ‘pen’ type devices 3rd generation tanks / mods type Bottom row shows Large electronic hookah Small shisha pipes Electronic pipe … there are many other configurations Heated tobacco products – sometimes referred to as heat-not-burn to distinguish between combustible products Shows the iQOs, Ploom and Glo products Novel nicotine products - shows Nicoccino – a nicotine containing film Zonnic – a range of nicotine products – lozenges, gum etc Voke – a cold aerosol (approved but not marketed) Niorette – cross-over NRT Smokeless tobacco Snus Moist snuff Tobacco-based lozenge