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Thumpr Cam Development Goals, Methodology, & Results Brian Reese Competition Cams
How it Began The CUSTOMER requested it – I want one of them cams that goes ‘Thumpety-Thump’ The Sales guy sold it The Engineers figured out how to make it The most successful line of cams in COMP Cams history!
Thumpr Goals Race Engine Sound!  Good drivability in near stock to moderately modified applications Similar performance to medium sized Xtreme Energy hydraulic rollers Vacuum for idle and accessories Work with standard carburetor tuning with proper Air/Fuel and exhaust temperatures Broad power band and excellent character!
Engineering Disclaimer The concept of the Thumpr cams started several years before development actually began, but at the time the goal was focused solely towards the Street Rod market.  However, as we started designing these cams, the scope grew as did the application window.  The final product now has a much broader appeal and the results are better than we ever really expected.
Starting Point Performance like Xtreme Energy (XE276HR10) Sound like Solid Race 285B-6
Question? Ok, which valve events cause what characteristics?  How can we use that understanding and manipulate those events to meet our goals?  What would the resulting cam specs look like and how will they perform?
Exhaust Opening - SOUND On race cams this event occurs near the middle of the “Power Stroke”  Exhaust begins exiting the chamber and cylinder pressure drops rapidly Some combustion is still occurring as the exhaust exits the chamber Combustion pressure is now used to force out exhaust, not force down piston  The timing and speed of the exhaust valve opening point is key to the volume and tone of the exhaust note
Intake Closing - RANGE This is the most important valve timing event When the intake valve closes, air stops flowing and pressure increases as the piston rises This point generally determines the power range  Early intake closing tunes in the power earlier because it traps more air at low speed before it can turn around and exit back into the manifold Later intake closings allow more air to enter at high RPM when the momentum of the intake charge allows filling even as the piston rises
Overlap - CHEAT During overlap both valves are open and this allows the intake and exhaust systems to link with one another and improve efficiency Too much overlap reduces the vacuum signal and causes excessive misfire at idle, but some gives a nice sounding lope The shape of the overlap can be more important than the duration or area By tailoring the exhaust closing ramp and the intake opening ramp we can optimize this shape This is where we cheat the ‘race’ out of the Thumpr
How does the Thumper mimic the 285B-6 timing points? Note the similar exhaust opening point (Race) The overlap is less to give enough vacuum to operate vacuum accessories and run with standard torque converters (Cheat) The intake closing is earlier to tune in torque and power to the appropriate street operating range (Range)
How does the Thumper mimic the XR276H-10 timing points? Note the similar intake closing point to provide a corresponding power range (Range) There is an increase in overlap, but it is far less than with a true race camshaft (Cheat) The exhaust opening is earlier to give an entirely different sound (Race)
Just for fun, what other cam is most “Thumpr Like”??? There is an application with timing points very much like the Thumpr, only bigger In 24 Hr racing, drivers need a very wide power range to allow them to come out of corners a gear too high or hold a gear longer as they get very tired from shifting Achieving those goals requires very “Thumpr Like” timing points!  Part 2 – Engineering Disclaimer!
What About Performance? 		This all sounds fine, but how well does it run! To find out about tuning, idle, power and drive-ability we installed the Thumpr cams along with a few baselines in a 350 Chevy in a Camaro We tested with a couple of carburetors and typical street components The sound was great, vacuum was acceptable, and power was very close to the Xtreme Energy  Our biggest surprise was how much fun the car was to drive with the early peak in the torque curve resulting in a car that acts faster than it is!
Results The Thumpr 287THR7 made +20 ft*lbs but lost 10 HP compared to the XE288HR-10 The MuthaThumpr 291THR7 made +10 ft*lbs and was close to the same power The XE288HR-10 made more power in the 5500-6500 RPM range and would be faster for drag racing with the proper gearing & converter The Big MuthaThumpr 299THR7 was too big for the 350 test engine
Results with Other Parts?
Selecting Thumpr Cams Levels  Thumpr Stock cubic inch, great street manners, strong vacuum Mutha’ Thumpr Stock to modest oversized cubic inch, all around performer, good vaccum Big Mutha’ Thumpr Large cubic inch, closest to Xtreme Energy with sound awesome enough to call it a BIG MUTHA THUMPR!
Classic Thumpr Cams Buick Nailhead 1957-1966 Chevrolet 409 1958-1965 Chrysler 392 Hemi 1957-1958 Ford Flathead 1949-1953 Ford Y-Block 1955-1962 Ford FE (early) 1958-1962 NEW! ,[object Object]
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Thumpr Cam - 2010 Hrr Trade Show

  • 1. Thumpr Cam Development Goals, Methodology, & Results Brian Reese Competition Cams
  • 2. How it Began The CUSTOMER requested it – I want one of them cams that goes ‘Thumpety-Thump’ The Sales guy sold it The Engineers figured out how to make it The most successful line of cams in COMP Cams history!
  • 3. Thumpr Goals Race Engine Sound! Good drivability in near stock to moderately modified applications Similar performance to medium sized Xtreme Energy hydraulic rollers Vacuum for idle and accessories Work with standard carburetor tuning with proper Air/Fuel and exhaust temperatures Broad power band and excellent character!
  • 4. Engineering Disclaimer The concept of the Thumpr cams started several years before development actually began, but at the time the goal was focused solely towards the Street Rod market. However, as we started designing these cams, the scope grew as did the application window. The final product now has a much broader appeal and the results are better than we ever really expected.
  • 5. Starting Point Performance like Xtreme Energy (XE276HR10) Sound like Solid Race 285B-6
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  • 7. Question? Ok, which valve events cause what characteristics? How can we use that understanding and manipulate those events to meet our goals? What would the resulting cam specs look like and how will they perform?
  • 8. Exhaust Opening - SOUND On race cams this event occurs near the middle of the “Power Stroke” Exhaust begins exiting the chamber and cylinder pressure drops rapidly Some combustion is still occurring as the exhaust exits the chamber Combustion pressure is now used to force out exhaust, not force down piston The timing and speed of the exhaust valve opening point is key to the volume and tone of the exhaust note
  • 9. Intake Closing - RANGE This is the most important valve timing event When the intake valve closes, air stops flowing and pressure increases as the piston rises This point generally determines the power range Early intake closing tunes in the power earlier because it traps more air at low speed before it can turn around and exit back into the manifold Later intake closings allow more air to enter at high RPM when the momentum of the intake charge allows filling even as the piston rises
  • 10. Overlap - CHEAT During overlap both valves are open and this allows the intake and exhaust systems to link with one another and improve efficiency Too much overlap reduces the vacuum signal and causes excessive misfire at idle, but some gives a nice sounding lope The shape of the overlap can be more important than the duration or area By tailoring the exhaust closing ramp and the intake opening ramp we can optimize this shape This is where we cheat the ‘race’ out of the Thumpr
  • 11. How does the Thumper mimic the 285B-6 timing points? Note the similar exhaust opening point (Race) The overlap is less to give enough vacuum to operate vacuum accessories and run with standard torque converters (Cheat) The intake closing is earlier to tune in torque and power to the appropriate street operating range (Range)
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  • 13. How does the Thumper mimic the XR276H-10 timing points? Note the similar intake closing point to provide a corresponding power range (Range) There is an increase in overlap, but it is far less than with a true race camshaft (Cheat) The exhaust opening is earlier to give an entirely different sound (Race)
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  • 15. Just for fun, what other cam is most “Thumpr Like”??? There is an application with timing points very much like the Thumpr, only bigger In 24 Hr racing, drivers need a very wide power range to allow them to come out of corners a gear too high or hold a gear longer as they get very tired from shifting Achieving those goals requires very “Thumpr Like” timing points! Part 2 – Engineering Disclaimer!
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  • 17. What About Performance? This all sounds fine, but how well does it run! To find out about tuning, idle, power and drive-ability we installed the Thumpr cams along with a few baselines in a 350 Chevy in a Camaro We tested with a couple of carburetors and typical street components The sound was great, vacuum was acceptable, and power was very close to the Xtreme Energy Our biggest surprise was how much fun the car was to drive with the early peak in the torque curve resulting in a car that acts faster than it is!
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  • 20. Results The Thumpr 287THR7 made +20 ft*lbs but lost 10 HP compared to the XE288HR-10 The MuthaThumpr 291THR7 made +10 ft*lbs and was close to the same power The XE288HR-10 made more power in the 5500-6500 RPM range and would be faster for drag racing with the proper gearing & converter The Big MuthaThumpr 299THR7 was too big for the 350 test engine
  • 22. Selecting Thumpr Cams Levels Thumpr Stock cubic inch, great street manners, strong vacuum Mutha’ Thumpr Stock to modest oversized cubic inch, all around performer, good vaccum Big Mutha’ Thumpr Large cubic inch, closest to Xtreme Energy with sound awesome enough to call it a BIG MUTHA THUMPR!
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  • 27. Brian ReeseVice President Engineering & Business Development COMP Performance Group breese@compcams.com