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VT refractory cases : Think
different, think bipolar !
2 CASE REPORTS
Arnaud CHAUMEIL
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November 16, 2017
Case 1 : B Q (72 yo)
 Ischemic cardiomyopathy EF 35%
 Previous AF ablations
 Severe peripheral vascular disease : femoro-femoral bypass
 Amiodarone induced pulmonary toxicity
 Electrical storm : incessant VT
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Clinical VT
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 1st procedure :
 VT non inducible
 Endocardial approach
 Substrate based ablation : 40 - 50 w unipolar mode
 VT free : 2 months
 2nd procedure :
 VT non inducible
 Endocardial approach : clean
 Epicardial approach : peri mitral circuit close to the mitral annulus and cx artery
 Cautiaus epicardial substrate based ablation : 30 W unipolar mode
 VT free : 1 month
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3rd procedure : incessant VT
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Pink point is inside the Isthmus
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Epicardial spot
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Endocardial farfield
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No capture from the endocardium even with
high output
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Post ablation
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 VT recurrence 3 weeks after !!!!!
 Surgical thoracic sympathectomy : D1 post operative recurrence….
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Bipolar Ablation : epicardial side
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Bipolar Ablation : endocardial side
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CT scan integration : calcification !
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Pre RF
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Post RF
VT FREE SINCE 16 MONTHS Carto Users meeting
Case 2 : B J (71 yo)
 Non ischemic cardiomyopathy EF 25% CRT ICD
 4 fast VTs were previously ablated (3 septal and 1 peri mitral sites) :
50 W unipolar ablation
 Redo slow VT cl 440 ms
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Clinical VT
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Very late potential on LV septum
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Very long S-QRS
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Bipolar voltage map : septal scar
LV septum RV septum
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Best pace mapping on the septum
(PASO™)
LV septum RV septum
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Bipolar septal ablation
AP View
RAO view
LAO view
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The peri mitral channel recovered on the
epicardial side : what to do ?
AP view
RAO view
LAO view
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Bipolar ablation !
Endocardial side Epicardial side
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Bipolar vs unipolar ablation :
NAGASHIMA NAGASHIMA
KORUTH
2012
GIZURARSON
2014
NGUYEN
2016
Tissue
Healthy swine
septum
Healthy swine free
wall
Healthy swine
tissue
Explanted pathological
human basal free wall
Healthy bovine myocardium
Wall thickness 16 mm 15 mm 17 mm Maximal thickness 15-20 mm
Irrigated tip vs
8mm
irrigated Irrig et 10 mm irrigated irrigated Multiple configurations
Power 30-50-70 W 25 – 30 w
30 -50 W
M= 41W
50W 50 -70 W
Duration 120 120 120 60 60
Width 8 mm 10 NR 14 NR
Depth 5 à 8 mm 10 NR 10 9-13
Transmurality 0 à 71 % 45% 82% 100% NR
Steam Pop 3-6-14% NR NR NR
Irrigated perpendicular 50 W
and 8mm 70W
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Bipolar vs unipolar ablation : Efficiency
and safety
 Lesion size :
 Width : no difference
 Depth : bipolar more efficient
 Transmurality : bipolar more efficient
 Steam pop :
 Bipolar : safer ?
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Bipolar ablation : settings
 Catheters connexion :
 1 NAV catheter, 1 non NAV catheter.
 Plugged in a « bipolar box » connected to the RF generator
 Carto settings :
 Only one catheter and its signals visualized
 The second one’s positoning is guided by X-rays
 Signals on EP lab :
 Non NAV catheter should directly be connected in the RF generator to display the signal,
then disconected and plugged in the « bipolar box » to do ablation
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Bipolar ablation : Ablation settings
 Ablation catheter : irrigated tip vs 8mm ?
 Deeper lesions with 8 mm but more steam pops…
 Power : titration …
 30 w , 35 W, 40w …
 Adapted to the wall thickness (a maximum distance of 20 to 25 mm between the
catheters)
 Duration :
 At least 30 seconds
 Long duration ?
 Impedance drop and plateau ?
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Bipolar ablation : additionnal tools
 PASO ™ : VTs circuits with 2 (or more) exits, allows oblique ablations (case
2).
 CT scan integration : tissue characterisation ?
 Stereotaxis ™ : epicardial catheter’s postioning ? stability ?
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Bipolar ablation : summary
 Indications : Diagnosis and mechanisms must be confirmed +++
 Failure of a previous well performed high power ablation
 Deep circuits with very thick wall or septum
 Failure of a RVOT-LVOT ablation?
 Calcifications or abnormal substrate…
 Settings:
 2 irrigated tip catheters
 Official connexion tool …
 Power and duration titration according to the wall thickeness and/or distance between the
catheters
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Bibliography :
 Nagashima, K., et al. (2011). "Lesion formation by ventricular septal ablation with irrigated
electrodes: comparison of bipolar and sequential unipolar ablation." Circ J 75(3): 565-570.
 Nagashima, K., et al. (2012). "Epicardial ablation with irrigated electrodes: - effect of bipolar vs.
unipolar ablation on lesion formation." Circ J 76(2): 322-327.
 Koruth, J. S., et al. (2012). "Bipolar irrigated radiofrequency ablation: a therapeutic option for
refractory intramural atrial and ventricular tachycardia circuits." Heart Rhythm 9(12): 1932-1941.
 Gizurarson, S., et al. (2014). "Bipolar ablation for deep intra-myocardial circuits: human ex vivo
development and in vivo experience." Europace 16(11): 1684-1688
 Nguyen, D. T., et al. (2016). "Clinical and biophysical evaluation of variable bipolar configurations
during radiofrequency ablation for treatment of ventricular arrhythmias." Heart Rhythm 13(11):
2161-2171
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Free wall ventricular tachycardia refractory cases bipolar ablation arnaud chaumeil

  • 1. VT refractory cases : Think different, think bipolar ! 2 CASE REPORTS Arnaud CHAUMEIL Carto Users meeting November 16, 2017
  • 2. Case 1 : B Q (72 yo)  Ischemic cardiomyopathy EF 35%  Previous AF ablations  Severe peripheral vascular disease : femoro-femoral bypass  Amiodarone induced pulmonary toxicity  Electrical storm : incessant VT Carto Users meeting
  • 4.  1st procedure :  VT non inducible  Endocardial approach  Substrate based ablation : 40 - 50 w unipolar mode  VT free : 2 months  2nd procedure :  VT non inducible  Endocardial approach : clean  Epicardial approach : peri mitral circuit close to the mitral annulus and cx artery  Cautiaus epicardial substrate based ablation : 30 W unipolar mode  VT free : 1 month Carto Users meeting
  • 5. 3rd procedure : incessant VT Carto Users meeting
  • 6. Pink point is inside the Isthmus Carto Users meeting
  • 10. No capture from the endocardium even with high output Carto Users meeting
  • 12.  VT recurrence 3 weeks after !!!!!  Surgical thoracic sympathectomy : D1 post operative recurrence…. Carto Users meeting
  • 13. Bipolar Ablation : epicardial side Carto Users meeting
  • 14. Bipolar Ablation : endocardial side Carto Users meeting
  • 15. CT scan integration : calcification ! Carto Users meeting
  • 17. Post RF VT FREE SINCE 16 MONTHS Carto Users meeting
  • 18. Case 2 : B J (71 yo)  Non ischemic cardiomyopathy EF 25% CRT ICD  4 fast VTs were previously ablated (3 septal and 1 peri mitral sites) : 50 W unipolar ablation  Redo slow VT cl 440 ms Carto Users meeting
  • 20. Very late potential on LV septum Carto Users meeting
  • 21. Very long S-QRS Carto Users meeting
  • 22. Bipolar voltage map : septal scar LV septum RV septum Carto Users meeting
  • 23. Best pace mapping on the septum (PASO™) LV septum RV septum Carto Users meeting
  • 24. Bipolar septal ablation AP View RAO view LAO view Carto Users meeting
  • 25. The peri mitral channel recovered on the epicardial side : what to do ? AP view RAO view LAO view Carto Users meeting
  • 26. Bipolar ablation ! Endocardial side Epicardial side Carto Users meeting
  • 27. Bipolar vs unipolar ablation : NAGASHIMA NAGASHIMA KORUTH 2012 GIZURARSON 2014 NGUYEN 2016 Tissue Healthy swine septum Healthy swine free wall Healthy swine tissue Explanted pathological human basal free wall Healthy bovine myocardium Wall thickness 16 mm 15 mm 17 mm Maximal thickness 15-20 mm Irrigated tip vs 8mm irrigated Irrig et 10 mm irrigated irrigated Multiple configurations Power 30-50-70 W 25 – 30 w 30 -50 W M= 41W 50W 50 -70 W Duration 120 120 120 60 60 Width 8 mm 10 NR 14 NR Depth 5 à 8 mm 10 NR 10 9-13 Transmurality 0 à 71 % 45% 82% 100% NR Steam Pop 3-6-14% NR NR NR Irrigated perpendicular 50 W and 8mm 70W Carto Users meeting
  • 28. Bipolar vs unipolar ablation : Efficiency and safety  Lesion size :  Width : no difference  Depth : bipolar more efficient  Transmurality : bipolar more efficient  Steam pop :  Bipolar : safer ? Carto Users meeting
  • 29. Bipolar ablation : settings  Catheters connexion :  1 NAV catheter, 1 non NAV catheter.  Plugged in a « bipolar box » connected to the RF generator  Carto settings :  Only one catheter and its signals visualized  The second one’s positoning is guided by X-rays  Signals on EP lab :  Non NAV catheter should directly be connected in the RF generator to display the signal, then disconected and plugged in the « bipolar box » to do ablation Carto Users meeting
  • 30. Bipolar ablation : Ablation settings  Ablation catheter : irrigated tip vs 8mm ?  Deeper lesions with 8 mm but more steam pops…  Power : titration …  30 w , 35 W, 40w …  Adapted to the wall thickness (a maximum distance of 20 to 25 mm between the catheters)  Duration :  At least 30 seconds  Long duration ?  Impedance drop and plateau ? Carto Users meeting
  • 31. Bipolar ablation : additionnal tools  PASO ™ : VTs circuits with 2 (or more) exits, allows oblique ablations (case 2).  CT scan integration : tissue characterisation ?  Stereotaxis ™ : epicardial catheter’s postioning ? stability ? Carto Users meeting
  • 32. Bipolar ablation : summary  Indications : Diagnosis and mechanisms must be confirmed +++  Failure of a previous well performed high power ablation  Deep circuits with very thick wall or septum  Failure of a RVOT-LVOT ablation?  Calcifications or abnormal substrate…  Settings:  2 irrigated tip catheters  Official connexion tool …  Power and duration titration according to the wall thickeness and/or distance between the catheters Carto Users meeting
  • 33. Bibliography :  Nagashima, K., et al. (2011). "Lesion formation by ventricular septal ablation with irrigated electrodes: comparison of bipolar and sequential unipolar ablation." Circ J 75(3): 565-570.  Nagashima, K., et al. (2012). "Epicardial ablation with irrigated electrodes: - effect of bipolar vs. unipolar ablation on lesion formation." Circ J 76(2): 322-327.  Koruth, J. S., et al. (2012). "Bipolar irrigated radiofrequency ablation: a therapeutic option for refractory intramural atrial and ventricular tachycardia circuits." Heart Rhythm 9(12): 1932-1941.  Gizurarson, S., et al. (2014). "Bipolar ablation for deep intra-myocardial circuits: human ex vivo development and in vivo experience." Europace 16(11): 1684-1688  Nguyen, D. T., et al. (2016). "Clinical and biophysical evaluation of variable bipolar configurations during radiofrequency ablation for treatment of ventricular arrhythmias." Heart Rhythm 13(11): 2161-2171 Carto Users meeting