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The Cheat Sheet, Vol. 12, Issue 23 – Sep 2022
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Two women tell Indy Politics in the most recent edition of The Cheat Sheet that he sexually harassed and groped them when they were in their early 20s.

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  1. 1. The Cheat Sheet, Vol. 12, Issue 23 – Sep 2022 Did you know the Cheat Sheet and our parent company Indy Politics is a certified MBE with the state of Indiana? Yup. Let us help you diversify your supply chain network by helping you with advertising, marketing and public outreach. Shoot us an e-mail and let's see what we can do for you. Abdul@indypolitics.org. Morales' #MeToo Moments For the past several months, we have been working on this story. Two women have accused Republican Secretary of State candidate Diego Morales of groping them and inappropriate sexual contact. Out of concern for their families and fear of political retaliation, we have not used their real names but referred to them as Woman #1 and Woman #2. The interviews have been transcribed below. This story will be updated.
  2. 2. The Cheat Sheet, Vol. 12, Issue 23 – Sep 2022 Did you know the Cheat Sheet and our parent company Indy Politics is a certified MBE with the state of Indiana? Yup. Let us help you diversify your supply chain network by helping you with advertising, marketing and public outreach. Shoot us an e-mail and let's see what we can do for you. Abdul@indypolitics.org. Abdul-Hakim Shabazz: Thank you very much for sharing your story with me. Woman #1: Thank you, Abdul. Appreciate your time. Abdul-Hakim Shabazz: Let's start at the very beginning. How did you know or meet Diego Morales? Woman #1: I met Diego Morales while I was campaigning for a congressman. Diego, at the time, was his driver. And I was campaigning. So that's how we initially met. We had worked together for several months on a campaign. Abdul-Hakim Shabazz: Did you have a friendly relationship? Were you friends? Were you just acquaintances, cordial? How would you describe your relationship? Woman #1: I absolutely believed that we were friends. We did spend a lot of time together during that period of my life. In fact, he used to come into the campaign office. And when he would come in, he'd bring me a latte and we'd sit down and talk. So I would characterize our relationship as a friendly one.
  3. 3. The Cheat Sheet, Vol. 12, Issue 23 – Sep 2022 Did you know the Cheat Sheet and our parent company Indy Politics is a certified MBE with the state of Indiana? Yup. Let us help you diversify your supply chain network by helping you with advertising, marketing and public outreach. Shoot us an e-mail and let's see what we can do for you. Abdul@indypolitics.org. Abdul-Hakim Shabazz: And this was back in 2006, 2007? Woman #1: At the time, it was 2007. Abdul-Hakim Shabazz: What happens next with your interaction with Diego after the campaign loss? Woman #1: After the campaign ended, I moved back to Indianapolis and I didn't have any contact with him or anyone else from the campaign for several months. I started a new job working for the Republican Party. And the following year, Diego moved to Indianapolis. And he called me out of the blue and said, "I moved to Indianapolis." And he said, "I just left southern Indiana and (the Congressman) knew that I was coming here, so he wanted to make sure that I gave you a gift." And he said, "I've got this gift for you from the congressman. I'd like to meet with you and give it to you." So I said, "Great, I'll meet you at the Starbucks on the circle after work one night." And that was our whole conversation. When I arrived at the Starbucks, we sat and talked for a few minutes. I caught up on his job and what he was doing and then he- Abdul-Hakim Shabazz: What was his job? Do you recall what he said his job was? Woman #1: At the time, I can't really remember. I know that he was wearing a suit and he had just come from work, but at this time I can't really remember what he was doing for work. So at that point he informed me that he didn't have the gift with him. He said, "I was running late this morning. I ran out the door and I just forgot it at my apartment." And he said, "My car's right outside. Do you mind if we just run down to my apartment and pick it up really quickly?" And he mentioned that he was excited to show me where
  4. 4. The Cheat Sheet, Vol. 12, Issue 23 – Sep 2022 Did you know the Cheat Sheet and our parent company Indy Politics is a certified MBE with the state of Indiana? Yup. Let us help you diversify your supply chain network by helping you with advertising, marketing and public outreach. Shoot us an e-mail and let's see what we can do for you. Abdul@indypolitics.org. he lived. He had just moved in and he was excited about that. And he said, "Take a look at my apartment. We'll grab the gift. And we'll head right back." Abdul-Hakim Shabazz: Now, where'd you guys actually go? Because, I want to say, he was staying at the Murat at the time. Woman #1: Yes, he was living at the Marott Apartments. So it was right off of Fall Creek. And it's across from- Abdul-Hakim Shabazz: Ivy Tech? Woman #1: Ivy Tech, yes. Abdul-Hakim Shabazz: So did you think, "Hey, this is kind of weird that I'm going up to his place?" But you just didn't think anything of it? Or, just, "Hey, he's going to bring me a gift and that's going to be it"? Woman #1: I didn't think it seemed strange at all, actually. We were friends. At no point did I ever suspect that anything was wrong, or no alarm bells going off at all. We were friends. I trusted him. And I didn't think it was odd at all to just run over to his place and pick something up and come back. Abdul-Hakim Shabazz: So you're in the car. Did he do anything weird? Any sort of signs or anything? Or just making small-talk conversation for the 10 minutes you were in the vehicle?
  5. 5. The Cheat Sheet, Vol. 12, Issue 23 – Sep 2022 Did you know the Cheat Sheet and our parent company Indy Politics is a certified MBE with the state of Indiana? Yup. Let us help you diversify your supply chain network by helping you with advertising, marketing and public outreach. Shoot us an e-mail and let's see what we can do for you. Abdul@indypolitics.org. Woman #1: Nothing odd at all in the vehicle. As we were driving to the Murat, we were talking about our experiences on the campaign and just chatting and laughing about things that occurred back then. And nothing odd at all during that time. Abdul-Hakim Shabazz: What kind of car did he drive? Woman #1: He drove a black SUV. It was a very large vehicle. I don't know if it was a Suburban necessarily. I'm not good with types of cars. But I know it was a large, black SUV. Abdul-Hakim Shabazz: So you get in the car. Go to his apartment. Then what happens? Woman #1: When we walked in, again, nothing odd. He was showing me his kitchen and his little dining area. And he had a black futon couch in his living room. And it was all kind of one big space. I did not go back into his bedroom, or bathroom, or anything like that. I stayed in his main area. And he told me, "Sit on the couch. I'll go get the gift for you." And he brought out an official portrait of the congressman, which was signed with a little thank you letter, which was very nice. It was a very nice thing for the congressman to do for me. And so he gave that to me while I was sitting on the couch. And almost immediately, as I was sitting there looking at it, he came and sat to my left. And he got really close and leaned in and tried to kiss me in that moment, which was shocking. I was not expecting that at all. Abdul-Hakim Shabazz: Now, did he say anything or do anything before that? Or, he just sat down like, "Hey, here's a photograph of the congressman with a signature" then? I mean, I guess, did he try to talk to you first? Or did he just lean in and try to kiss you?
  6. 6. The Cheat Sheet, Vol. 12, Issue 23 – Sep 2022 Did you know the Cheat Sheet and our parent company Indy Politics is a certified MBE with the state of Indiana? Yup. Let us help you diversify your supply chain network by helping you with advertising, marketing and public outreach. Shoot us an e-mail and let's see what we can do for you. Abdul@indypolitics.org. Woman #1: He didn't say anything to me at all. Once he handed me the gift, I was sitting on the couch and not another word was spoken until he came and sat next to me and leaned in and tried kissing me. Abdul-Hakim Shabazz: Then what happened? Woman #1: I immediately backed up. I put my hand up and I said, "Diego, I have a boyfriend." And he said, "But you don't like him." And I said, "Yes, I do. He's my boyfriend. Of course, I like him." And he got really close to me. I mean, he scooted in towards me and grabbed my arms like this and got right in my face. And he said, "No, you like me." And I immediately said, "No, I don't. I don't like you like that. We're friends. That's it. I don't like you like this." And he did not take no for an answer. Absolutely not. He kept trying to get closer to me. And then he moved from sitting next to me to the floor in front of me. He was on his knees, right in front of me, trying to get close to my face and pull me close to him and kept trying to kiss me. And I was trying to get away from him. And kept trying to put my hands up and backing away from him. And he was just in such an odd position there that it was hard for me to get up and get away. And he finally stood up. And I stood up and went towards the door, which was directly across from where his couch sat in the apartment. And he followed me over there. And so there's a door, and then right next to it is this long wall on the right side and then a wall where his TV stand was. So right between there, there was this wall and he had me pinned up against that wall. And he grabbed both of my arms by my wrists and he held them behind my back. I mean, he as close to me as he could possibly get. He had me pinned there. And he kept trying to kiss me. And I turned my head to the left. I was trying to get my head as far away from him as possible, because he just kept trying to kiss me. And then he started kissing down my neck and my chest. And he was very aggressively rubbing up against me and pushing himself into me and was really, I mean, had a very tight grip on my hands. And I felt like I couldn't move. And I was also in total shock. Never for a moment did I ever anticipate that my friend would do something like this. I trusted him. I believed that we were friends. I had no idea why he was doing this. But he just kept rubbing up and down against me and really pushing into me. And he finally let go of one of my arms and was reaching for my shirt, and that's when I was able to at least get one of my hands free and push him off. So that's how I was able to get away from him.
  7. 7. The Cheat Sheet, Vol. 12, Issue 23 – Sep 2022 Did you know the Cheat Sheet and our parent company Indy Politics is a certified MBE with the state of Indiana? Yup. Let us help you diversify your supply chain network by helping you with advertising, marketing and public outreach. Shoot us an e-mail and let's see what we can do for you. Abdul@indypolitics.org. Abdul-Hakim Shabazz: Not to interrupt you, but as we were talking before we decided to just start the interview, you said you remember the smell of his cologne. Can you talk about that for a little bit? Woman #1: That is an odd thing to me. I didn't notice it in the car on the way to the apartment at all. Didn't think about it once. And even in that moment, I didn't notice it. But after that incident, he ran out, down the hall towards me. And he kept saying to me, "Wait, wait, wait. You're still going to be friends with me, right? Right? You're still going to take my calls? Tell me you're still going to take my calls, right? You're not going to disappear, are you? You're not going to disappear. You're still going to take my calls." I mean, he was just almost frantically trying to get reassurance that I was still going to be his friend. And I realized in that moment that my stuff was still in his car and I had to go down and get it. So I had to try to figure out how do I get him to let me get my stuff. And so I said, "It's fine. I'll still talk to you. Just let me get my stuff, okay? Let me get my stuff." And I got my stuff. And the oddest thing was he grabbed my hand and started kissing the top of my hand. And he looked at me and said, "Someday, I'm going to marry you." And in that very moment, I had this intense smell of his cologne for the very first time. And I'll never forget that. I almost smell it again every time I think about him kissing my hand and saying that to me. And it was the only time in that entire experience that I noticed it, but it was so strong in that one moment that I still think about it to this day. Abdul-Hakim Shabazz: So what happened after you get your things, and you call a taxi, go back to Starbucks? What happened after that? Woman #1: So he actually drove me back downtown. All of my stuff was in his car. And I thought, "Just keep him calm. Just keep him calm. Make him get me to my car." And I kept saying, "Just get me to my car. Just get me to my car. I just want to get..." And so I don't think I said more than two words to him driving back over to the coffee shop. He just kept trying to get reassurance from me that I was still going to be part of his life. That was all he kept talking about the entire time. And it was only a few minutes down
  8. 8. The Cheat Sheet, Vol. 12, Issue 23 – Sep 2022 Did you know the Cheat Sheet and our parent company Indy Politics is a certified MBE with the state of Indiana? Yup. Let us help you diversify your supply chain network by helping you with advertising, marketing and public outreach. Shoot us an e-mail and let's see what we can do for you. Abdul@indypolitics.org. the road, but still, he was just saying, "Well, I just really want to be your friend. And just please be my friend. I mean, be my friend. You're going to be my friend, right? Just please tell me you're still going to be my friend." And it was very odd. It was very shocking. And as soon as we pulled up, I got out. And I have never spoken to him since that day. But he clearly didn't get the message, because he just kept calling, and calling, and calling me for months after that. And I didn't answer anytime I saw his name on my phone. The first couple of times, I just ignored it. And then I started blocking his phone number. I blocked his email to try to make sure he couldn't contact me. And periodically, he would call me from different numbers that I didn't recognize so that he would get me to answer the phone. And as soon as I would hear his voice, I would hang up. And he still didn't seem to get the message, because he wouldn't leave me alone. And I didn't understand why he wouldn't leave me alone. And eventually, he even had his sister call me, or, I mean, I've never met her. She said she was his sister. I'm assuming that's the case. And again, she called me from a number I didn't recognize so I answered the phone. And she says, "This is Diego's sister. He's very upset that he hasn't been able to get ahold of you. And he wants to know why he can't reach you. And he wants to know what's going on. Why can't he reach you? He needs to talk to you." And I said, "He doesn't need to talk to me about anything." And I hung up and I blocked that number, as well. And that was the last communication that I had from him or any of his family members by phone. But since that incident, there were two other times when I saw him at a public event. I know for sure one was a state party dinner. I walked into a room and he was maybe 15, 20 feet away from me. And the second he saw me, he made a bee line for me. He started walking towards me immediately. And I turned and walked over to a group of people, because I didn't think that he would speak to me if I were in a group of people. I didn't think that he would try to speak to me. And that's true. As soon as I got with a group of people, he turned and walked away. And he did that twice over the years since then. And I don't recall seeing him any other time since then. I mean, I saw him at a GOP event recently, but he did not try to speak to me. He didn't come near me. He didn't look at me. So obviously, now he's gotten the message. Now he knows that I do not want anything to do with him. But I feel like I was very clear. I said no multiple times. I backed away from him. I tried to push him off of me. I made it abundantly clear that I did not want any kind of sexual or romantic relationship with him in any way. And he just refused to take no for an answer.
  9. 9. The Cheat Sheet, Vol. 12, Issue 23 – Sep 2022 Did you know the Cheat Sheet and our parent company Indy Politics is a certified MBE with the state of Indiana? Yup. Let us help you diversify your supply chain network by helping you with advertising, marketing and public outreach. Shoot us an e-mail and let's see what we can do for you. Abdul@indypolitics.org. Abdul-Hakim Shabazz: Now, some folks will probably hear this conversation and say, "Well, oh, my God, what happened to her was horrible." Did you call the police? Did you call the authorities? Did you report this to anyone? Woman #1: Believe me, I've thought about that many times over the years. I called my parents right away. And actually, my father asked me if I wanted to file a police report. And I remember saying to him, "Well, there's no witnesses to it. So I think nothing will happen to him. And what I do think will happen is it'll be used against our party. And it'll be used to say, 'Well, the Republican party and the Congressman hired this sexual predator.'" And I thought it could only be bad for us and our party, and that he would get away with it no matter what. And I thought nothing's going to happen to him. But I did talk to my parents about it, and I did talk to a couple of individuals. I spoke to my boss about it at the time. And so there were certainly people that I confided in, who will tell you to this day that they remember us talking about that. They've known about it since right when it happened, basically. But, no, at 20 years old, I wasn't as assertive as I am now. And I really believed that he would just get away with it, that nothing would happen, because I couldn't prove it. And I so badly wanted to just get it out of my mind and move on. I didn't want to dwell on it. I didn't want to continue thinking about it. I didn't want it in my life anymore. It was extremely shocking. And as I've gotten older, I realized, yes, I should have called the authorities. I should have. Whether anything happened to him or not, I should have at least reported it. And now, I know better. But at 20 years old, I didn't. Abdul-Hakim Shabazz: So why come forward 15 years later? Or, I'll take that back. Well, let me... Why come forward now as opposed to, say, earlier? Because now, as you know, he's a candidate for public office. People are going to be accusing you of being with the Democrats and this is just a political thing, and she's really supporting Destiny Wells.
  10. 10. The Cheat Sheet, Vol. 12, Issue 23 – Sep 2022 Did you know the Cheat Sheet and our parent company Indy Politics is a certified MBE with the state of Indiana? Yup. Let us help you diversify your supply chain network by helping you with advertising, marketing and public outreach. Shoot us an e-mail and let's see what we can do for you. Abdul@indypolitics.org. Woman #1: Anyone who knows me knows that I'm a lifelong Republican. I have worked for Republican candidates at every level of government. I have worked for state parties, county parties. I have never, ever supported a Democrat candidate before this election. And I had never even heard the name Destiny Wells before this campaign cycle. I looked up his opponent online and she had a contact form on her website. I submitted it and said, "Hey, I'd like to volunteer with your campaign." And since then, I've been learning more about her and trying to volunteer to help out. But anyone who knows me knows that this is the first time in my entire life that I have ever, ever supported a Democrat candidate. And this is not political for me. This is personal. I don't want someone like this being in a position of power where he can do this to other women. And if he felt like he could get away with it before, he will absolutely believe that he can get away with it when he gets into a position of power. He will feel like he is above the law. I didn't take his candidacy seriously. I really did not believe for a single second that he would actually get the nomination, because anyone in our party who knows him, knows that he has a very long history of deceitful behavior. He's been fired multiple times. He has had numerous issues at work. He clearly does not run a company, even though he likes to tell people that. And I think if he were the Democrat candidate, everyone in our party would point out his incompetency. But for some reason, somehow he got the nomination at convention. And in that moment, I thought, "I messed up by not coming forward earlier." I really was regretting it so much in that moment when I found out that he actually was our candidate. But I really believed that if I went to party leaders who have known me for decades, these are people I spend a lot of time with. They're my friends. They're my colleagues. I believed if I went to them and I told them what happened, that at least we could deal with it private, that it would be dealt with privately. And I gave them plenty of opportunities to do that. And it never went anywhere. No one ever stepped up and said, "We can't have someone like this in office. We cannot put someone like this in a position of power to allow them to continue victimizing other women."
  11. 11. The Cheat Sheet, Vol. 12, Issue 23 – Sep 2022 Did you know the Cheat Sheet and our parent company Indy Politics is a certified MBE with the state of Indiana? Yup. Let us help you diversify your supply chain network by helping you with advertising, marketing and public outreach. Shoot us an e-mail and let's see what we can do for you. Abdul@indypolitics.org. Abdul-Hakim Shabazz: So did you speak out to party leaders? What was their reaction to all this? Woman #1: I did speak out to party leaders. Some of them were shocked. Some of them were not. I do want to say, look, I like Kyle Hupfer very much. I respect him. I think that he's done a very good job as our state party leader. And I appreciate the difficult position that he's in. I do, because I know that he has a job to do. He is required to do his job. But there are other individuals in our party who are in leadership positions, or are elected officials, or party donors who have no obligation to support him. They're not obligated. That's not their job. And they know about this. And they've continued to sweep it under the rug, ignore it, and publicly endorse and support him anyway. Abdul-Hakim Shabazz: As we get ready to sort of wind down our conversation here, there're some folks who may be thinking, "Hey, you [inaudible 00:22:59] said there were no witnesses. It's basically your word against Diego's." Is there any other proof, evidence, that sort of thing out there? Woman #1: I don't know if there's actual evidence. But I do know that there are other women who have experienced something very similar, because they've reached out as well. They've reached out, I know, for sure, there are other women who have reached out to the Wells campaign to inform her that her opponent is a sexual predator. And to my knowledge, she has not exploited that in any way. She has not talked about it. She has allowed each of us to make our own choice about what we want to do here. This is our story. And she has left it up to us to decide if we want to tell it or not. But I'm sure, I'm absolutely positive, that there are other women out there who have experiences of sexual assault and even sexual harassment in the workplace. And I'm hopeful that some of them will come forward and tell their story as well. Abdul-Hakim Shabazz: So what would you like to see the end result of all this be?
  12. 12. The Cheat Sheet, Vol. 12, Issue 23 – Sep 2022 Did you know the Cheat Sheet and our parent company Indy Politics is a certified MBE with the state of Indiana? Yup. Let us help you diversify your supply chain network by helping you with advertising, marketing and public outreach. Shoot us an e-mail and let's see what we can do for you. Abdul@indypolitics.org. Woman #1: The thing that I think about all the time is if I don't say anything and this continues to happen to other women, I will feel the weight of that guilt for the rest of my life. And I don't want to see that happen. I don't want to see other women being exploited and abused. I don't want any other woman to be in that position. And if anything, I don't want him to be in a position where he can do that to other people within the office and then force them to deal with the decision to either come forward and potentially lose their job or hold onto that for the rest of their lives and stay silent. Abdul-Hakim Shabazz: Obviously, you're the first person to come forward. Are you worried about any sort of retaliation, party politics, the impact on your family? Woman #1: Absolutely. Absolutely. I worry. I have worried every day for my family and my job; and I don’t want them to be impacted in any way. I love my career. I've worked very hard for it. I don't want to lose it. And I've even had people in our party tell me, "Once you talk about this publicly, you'll never be a convention delegate. You'll never be hired by another Republican. You'll never work for the party again." I've already had people, in our party, who I am friends with, tell me that this will be the outcome, that I'll be the one who ends up getting punished for coming forward. And the party leaders and elected officials will not trust me anymore, which I find extremely odd. But I know that that's probably true, that I probably will not work in politics anymore. Abdul-Hakim Shabazz: Anything else you'd like to add or share with us? Woman #1: I'm sure that there are other women out there who are wondering whether or not they should come forward and talk about their experience. And they're wondering whether they should continue to stay silent about it and just continue to deal with it quietly, because coming forward is painful. But I think anytime you choose fitting in over belonging to yourself, that's even more painful. Abdul-Hakim Shabazz: Thank you very much for taking a few minutes to talk to us today and sharing your story with us. Woman #1: Thank you, Abdul.
  13. 13. The Cheat Sheet, Vol. 12, Issue 23 – Sep 2022 Did you know the Cheat Sheet and our parent company Indy Politics is a certified MBE with the state of Indiana? Yup. Let us help you diversify your supply chain network by helping you with advertising, marketing and public outreach. Shoot us an e-mail and let's see what we can do for you. Abdul@indypolitics.org. Abdul-Hakim Shabazz: How did you know Diego Morales? Woman #2: He was a colleague at the Secretary of State's Office. Abdul-Hakim Shabazz: When did you work there? Woman #2 : I was there 2009 and through 2010, and I think he left later in 2009. So we overlapped for just a few months. Abdul-Hakim Shabazz: Now, were you friends, were you just casual coworkers? How would you describe your relationship?
  14. 14. The Cheat Sheet, Vol. 12, Issue 23 – Sep 2022 Did you know the Cheat Sheet and our parent company Indy Politics is a certified MBE with the state of Indiana? Yup. Let us help you diversify your supply chain network by helping you with advertising, marketing and public outreach. Shoot us an e-mail and let's see what we can do for you. Abdul@indypolitics.org. Woman #2: It all started right as I started working there, so it was within my first week or two of employment. It started friendly, I thought he was a friend, and I was new to Indianapolis and he invited me out for dinner or a drink one night and I went with him. So that's how the whole thing sort of started, but yeah, I would say friendly for like a week. Abdul-Hakim Shabazz: Yeah. But did you think it was anything more romantic involved or just like, "Hey, we're just friends having dinner, a couple drinks, and everybody goes home"? Woman #2: Absolutely. Just thought it was friendly. Abdul-Hakim Shabazz: So, let me ask you this, how did you end up in this situation? Just tell me what happened, let me put it that way. Woman #2: Sure. Kind of a lot happened. So it started with an incident, which I'll get into, and then proceeded in the subsequent weeks of him being just awful to me in the workplace. Lots of little examples sort of in retaliation probably of the first incident. It was ongoing for a period of time, that he was just incredibly
  15. 15. The Cheat Sheet, Vol. 12, Issue 23 – Sep 2022 Did you know the Cheat Sheet and our parent company Indy Politics is a certified MBE with the state of Indiana? Yup. Let us help you diversify your supply chain network by helping you with advertising, marketing and public outreach. Shoot us an e-mail and let's see what we can do for you. Abdul@indypolitics.org. inappropriate. But I went out for dinner with him one night, and I can't remember the circumstances of why he picked me up at my apartment. I think he had been at an event near me or something. But he picked me up and we went out downtown at the Claddagh, and over the course of dinner, which I thought, again, I was new, I was making friends, a colleague invited me out to dinner. I said, "Okay, sure." Over the course of dinner, he started suggesting things, like asking me if I had ever had what he referred to as campaign sex, because I'd worked on a campaign prior. And he said when he was on the (Mike Sodrel) campaign, he just had casual sex with a lot of people and asked me if I had done anything like that and suggested that we try it. Essentially, I started getting incredibly uncomfortable over the course of sitting there with him and realized what was happening. So I was like, "Hey, please take me home." And of course, it was I need to lighten up and just chill out and relax, and all of these things. By the time we got back to my apartment, I was incredibly needing to get out of the situation and he was like, "Hey, I really have to go to the bathroom. Can I just run up and use your restroom?" And I was like, "No, I really don't want you to come in." And of course, this was a colleague and he keeps saying, "You have to let me in. It's a long drive." He lived in Broad Ripple at the time, he's like, "It's a long drive back to Broad Ripple. You have to just let me in to go to the bathroom." I said no two or three times, and then I was like, "Yeah, okay. Real quick," because I just didn't feel... And it's an awkward situation if somebody asks to use your bathroom, and of course he kept telling me I was overreacting, I don't know, just being weird. He was telling me I was being weird. So I let him in and I remember it was winter and I kept my coat on and I stood in my doorway with my apartment door open to get him back into the hallway, just to indicate, "Hey, we're not hanging out or having a drink here." And he came out of the bathroom and went to hug me goodbye, which I did not reciprocate, and he started kissing me and just kept kissing me. He was holding my arms down, and I think in his head it was one of those situations where I was saying no, but meant yes. So I think he thought, I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt here, I think he thought if he just kept kissing me, I would get into it. And that's not what happened. So I pushed him off of me pretty forcefully, and then it was I'm a real bitch and I'm overreacting, and I need to lighten up and learn to have some fun, and so he stormed out angry. So that was the extent of that incident. It never got physically worse than that, but what happened in the subsequent weeks at work was him continuing to suggest that I give him a chance. It was a lot of that. It was a lot of manipulation. He would sometimes give me the silent treatment on work related things to prevent me from being able to do my job effectively and Diego would withhold things from me until I would be nice to him, those sorts of things. It got to a point where I had another colleague who I would text if Diego would come in my office and the colleague would come and stand in my office until Diego would leave, because I was so uncomfortable being alone with him. And in retrospect, if that happened to me now as somebody with a
  16. 16. The Cheat Sheet, Vol. 12, Issue 23 – Sep 2022 Did you know the Cheat Sheet and our parent company Indy Politics is a certified MBE with the state of Indiana? Yup. Let us help you diversify your supply chain network by helping you with advertising, marketing and public outreach. Shoot us an e-mail and let's see what we can do for you. Abdul@indypolitics.org. professional history and a different perspective, I would never allow that. But I was 22, it was my first job, it was my first real job. I didn't feel like I could speak up, I didn't know if I would be believed. I was made to believe that I had led him on. I mean, he consistently said I led him on since I went out to dinner with him. Abdul-Hakim Shabazz : Yeah, because I was going to ask you, did you report any of this to- Woman #2: No. Abdul-Hakim Shabazz : ... anyone in the office or personnel, or Rokita himself? Woman #2: I didn't want to get myself in trouble, I didn't know if I would be believed, and I had a guy looking at me telling me I led him on and I needed to lighten up and I was taking things too seriously. This was a different, slightly different era. I was 22, you know what I mean? Abdul-Hakim Shabazz: Yeah.
  17. 17. The Cheat Sheet, Vol. 12, Issue 23 – Sep 2022 Did you know the Cheat Sheet and our parent company Indy Politics is a certified MBE with the state of Indiana? Yup. Let us help you diversify your supply chain network by helping you with advertising, marketing and public outreach. Shoot us an e-mail and let's see what we can do for you. Abdul@indypolitics.org. Woman #2: I just didn't have the confidence to say, "No, this isn't acceptable," so I didn't. Abdul-Hakim Shabazz: And it's interesting you told me your age, you were 22 years old, because the other person I spoke to, she was only 20. So I think I'm seeing a pattern start to form here. Woman #2 : I mean, yeah, it feels that way. What finally stopped it is I started dating someone, who's now my husband actually. Started dating someone and he found out about it and I remember him walking in my door and slamming the door to my office and saying, "Hey, you told me you didn't want a boyfriend," because that's how we're kind of conditioned to handle these things. I was like, "No, I'm not interested. I don't want a boyfriend," that sort of thing, as opposed to saying, "No, you're slimy and I don't want to be around you." I didn't have the confidence to say something like that, so I was always kind of making excuses. And he found out I had a boyfriend and demanded an explanation and then gave me the silent treatment for a while, and then it just kind of fizzled and he stopped treating me differently and it was fine. I mean, at least I decided it was fine, and then he was fired a few months later, but not related to the... Abdul-Hakim Shabazz : Yeah. Now, let me ask, did he ever apologize? Like, "Hey, I'm sorry for my behavior that day, I was really inappropriate"? Or just... Woman #2: No, no. It was consistently that I was taking things too seriously and had overreacted. Abdul-Hakim Shabazz: Wow. So let me ask, have you been approached by any Democrats or are you just an angry Republican? Because obviously when we tell the story, people are going to say, "Well, who are these women? Why
  18. 18. The Cheat Sheet, Vol. 12, Issue 23 – Sep 2022 Did you know the Cheat Sheet and our parent company Indy Politics is a certified MBE with the state of Indiana? Yup. Let us help you diversify your supply chain network by helping you with advertising, marketing and public outreach. Shoot us an e-mail and let's see what we can do for you. Abdul@indypolitics.org. didn't they say something back then? Why wait till now? Why wait till a month before an election pops up?" Woman #2: No, it's a fair question. I think for me, it's very triggering to see his name everywhere. I think I would not think about any of this 14 years later or 13 years later, I wouldn't think about it, but every time he runs for Congress or he starts popping up on the news and things, I get upset and I think, "Gosh, I should say something." But then what happens for me is I think about 2016 when all of the women came forward and accused Trump of assaulting them, and the country voted for the guy anyway. Nobody cared. It was like it just didn't matter. I think that that sent a clear message that these things don't matter to people. I wish they did, but it doesn't seem to, and I hope that that's wrong. But I'm a big supporter of Destiny, and if it's helpful, I think knowing that other people have come forward and that it's a pattern and it wasn't just a one-off, if that's helpful, then hopefully it is. I'm afraid it'll get ignored because I just don't think people care enough about these things, but it's not easy to come forward on this stuff. Abdul-Hakim Shabazz: What did you think when Diego won the nomination? Woman #2: Shocking. Well, not really. So I am very distant from, I'm very strong on the other side of the political aisle now. Just the times changed. I obviously started my career in Republican politics, but nothing surprises me anymore with that party and the way that they do things ever since the Trump Administration and just the way things are run. So we've got a dude that's an election denier, running to be the Chief Election Office to me, this should be insane, but it's almost not surprising. The Republican Party in my mind is just completely absurd lately. So I guess I'm not shocked, but I don't see where he's got any sort of qualification.
  19. 19. The Cheat Sheet, Vol. 12, Issue 23 – Sep 2022 Did you know the Cheat Sheet and our parent company Indy Politics is a certified MBE with the state of Indiana? Yup. Let us help you diversify your supply chain network by helping you with advertising, marketing and public outreach. Shoot us an e-mail and let's see what we can do for you. Abdul@indypolitics.org. Abdul-Hakim Shabazz: Let me ask you, because this is a question I sort of ask everyone in a situation like this, if you were called to testify under oath, would you say the exact same thing? Woman #2: Yeah. Abdul-Hakim Shabazz: Thank you. Woman #2: Bye.
  20. 20. The Cheat Sheet, Vol. 12, Issue 23 – Sep 2022 Did you know the Cheat Sheet and our parent company Indy Politics is a certified MBE with the state of Indiana? Yup. Let us help you diversify your supply chain network by helping you with advertising, marketing and public outreach. Shoot us an e-mail and let's see what we can do for you. Abdul@indypolitics.org. A Few Other Items of Note There are a couple of polls out there right now. Indy Politics is one of them. We started polling Sunday. We're looking at the U.S. Senate race, Secretary of State and Marion County Prosecutor. We plan to publish them next week. Keep an eye on Congressman Greg Pence and Boone County Council member Elise Neishalla, word is the may be looking at running for Lt. Governor in 2024. Speaking of keeping an eye out. We hear Sue Finkam is getting major pressure to run Mayor of Carmel, because a lot of Republicans think Kevin "Woody " Rider may be a big liability. And keep an eye on the Indiana Senate. Word on the street is that there may be some major changes coming to leadership next year.
  21. 21. The Cheat Sheet, Vol. 12, Issue 23 – Sep 2022 Did you know the Cheat Sheet and our parent company Indy Politics is a certified MBE with the state of Indiana? Yup. Let us help you diversify your supply chain network by helping you with advertising, marketing and public outreach. Shoot us an e-mail and let's see what we can do for you. Abdul@indypolitics.org. The Usual Disclaimer Stuff: The Cheat Sheet is a publication of IndyPolitics.Org. This is a compilation of pure gossip, rumor and blatant innuendo. We assume no liability if it is wrong, we only take credit for it when it’s right! If you’ve got something you want to share, (good, bad or ugly) send it to Abdul@indypolitics.org. We promise to take all the credit and all of the blame.

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