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Market Values, Cycles and Bubbles
Today’s Discussion
1. Bull	&	Bear	Markets?																											
(What	is	a	market	cycle,	anyway?)
2. How	Much	Do	Valuations	Matter	Anymore?	
(How	do	you	measure	value?)
3.	Is	this	a	Bubble?	
(And	how	can	you	tell?)
Bull & Bear
Market Cycles
Bull Market Cycles
Survey question: The Current Bull Market is:
a) 12 years old, and very late in the cycle;
b) Looking past the pandemic + forward to the recovery;
c) Reset by the 2020 crash/recovery, its barely a year old;
d) Who cares about the age of a bull market?
What is a Bull/Bear Market ?
What is a Bear Market ?
What is a Bull Market ?
Bear Markets Begin Above Prior Bear Markets
Bear Markets Begin Above Prior Bear Markets
Bull Market 4 Traits
4 characteristics:
1. Broad economic expansion, rising corporate revenues + profits;
2. Rising stock prices making new all-time highs;
3. Improving investor sentiment manifest in the willingness to pay
more for each dollar of earnings;
4. Lasting over a substantial length of time – years and decades
What is a Secular Bull (Bear) Market?
What’s the Dominant Narrative?
What is a Bull/Bear Market ?
The Current Bull Market is:
a) 12 years old, and very late in the cycle;
Bull markets begin when they make new highs after a long. broad
trading range (2013 not 2009)
b) Looking past the pandemic + forward to the recovery;
Markets are always forward looking – what does this tell you?
c) Reset by the 2020 crash/recovery, its barely a year old;
Data suggests slight outperformance following 30% drop
d) Who cares about the age of a bull market?
There is no evidence the age of a market is what ends them
2
Valuations:
Are you looking at
them the wrong way?
Market Valuations
Survey question 2
2. Today’s Market Valuations Are:
a) The most expensive we have seen in a long while
b) Pricey, but tolerable
c) TINA, Fed made Valuations no longer matter
d) Its complicated
7
Why Markets Don’t Care If the Economy Stinks
2020 Advantage
Lockdown Stocks
7
Market Cap % of S&P500, by Industry
Context Matters
Inflation vs Deflation
Different Buyers at Different Times
Everything is Working
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Data Source: Stockcharts.com
$100 Million Dollar Pastrami!
Say Cheese!
Today’s Market Valuations Are
a) The most expensive we have seen in a long while
True, but only if you use single variable analysis
b) Pricey, but tolerable
Assuming you have a long-term holding period and are prepared
to lower your return expectations
c) TINAL: Fed made Valuations no longer matter
That’s too 1999 for me
d) Its complicated
In finance this is almost always a winning answer
2
Bubbles:
How can you tell? What do you
do?
Survey question: How Bubblicious is the market today?
a) Congratulations! Its a Bubble!
b) Pockets of froth + speculation,
c) Nothing to worry about — its all good!
d) No one can identify a bubble in real time.
Most Volatile Year Ever
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12 Month Returns?
13 Month Returns
It Gets Harder From Here
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Source: Ritholtz Wealth Management, Data via Ycharts (S&P 500)
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iShares Russell 1000 Value ETF Total Return iShares Russell 1000 Growth ETF Total Return
Housing Shortage
New Home Sales
Not a Bubble
How to Spot a Bubble in Real Time
1995-2000:
S&P 500:
25% per year
211% over 5 years
Nasdaq 100:
60% per year
946% over 5 years
2015 – 2020
SPX 11.8%/yr
75% over 5 years
NDX 17.6%/yr
125% over 5 years
How to Spot a Bubble in Real Time
1. Standard Deviations of Valuation
2. Significantly elevated returns
3. Excess leverage
4. New financial products
5. Expansion of Credit
6. Trading Volumes Spike
7. Perverse Incentives
8. Tortured rationalizations
9. Unintended Consequences
10. Employment trends
How Bubblicious is the market today?
Source: NYFed
a) Congratulations! Its a Bubble!
Hard to see elements of a bubble
b) Pockets of froth + speculation
Yes, but there always are
c) Nothing to worry about — its all good!
Always a wrong answer
d) No one can identify a bubble in real time.
Indentifying and acting on are two very different things
One Final Thought
2
Chairman, Chief Investment Officer,
Ritholtz Wealth Management
24 West 40th Street, 15th floor
New York, NY 10018
212-625-1200
britholtz3@bloomberg.net
Barry L. Ritholtz

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  • 1. Market Values, Cycles and Bubbles
  • 2. Today’s Discussion 1. Bull & Bear Markets? (What is a market cycle, anyway?) 2. How Much Do Valuations Matter Anymore? (How do you measure value?) 3. Is this a Bubble? (And how can you tell?)
  • 4. Bull Market Cycles Survey question: The Current Bull Market is: a) 12 years old, and very late in the cycle; b) Looking past the pandemic + forward to the recovery; c) Reset by the 2020 crash/recovery, its barely a year old; d) Who cares about the age of a bull market?
  • 5. What is a Bull/Bear Market ?
  • 6. What is a Bear Market ?
  • 7. What is a Bull Market ?
  • 8. Bear Markets Begin Above Prior Bear Markets
  • 9. Bear Markets Begin Above Prior Bear Markets
  • 10. Bull Market 4 Traits
  • 11. 4 characteristics: 1. Broad economic expansion, rising corporate revenues + profits; 2. Rising stock prices making new all-time highs; 3. Improving investor sentiment manifest in the willingness to pay more for each dollar of earnings; 4. Lasting over a substantial length of time – years and decades What is a Secular Bull (Bear) Market?
  • 12. What’s the Dominant Narrative?
  • 13. What is a Bull/Bear Market ?
  • 14. The Current Bull Market is: a) 12 years old, and very late in the cycle; Bull markets begin when they make new highs after a long. broad trading range (2013 not 2009) b) Looking past the pandemic + forward to the recovery; Markets are always forward looking – what does this tell you? c) Reset by the 2020 crash/recovery, its barely a year old; Data suggests slight outperformance following 30% drop d) Who cares about the age of a bull market? There is no evidence the age of a market is what ends them
  • 15. 2 Valuations: Are you looking at them the wrong way?
  • 16. Market Valuations Survey question 2 2. Today’s Market Valuations Are: a) The most expensive we have seen in a long while b) Pricey, but tolerable c) TINA, Fed made Valuations no longer matter d) Its complicated
  • 17. 7 Why Markets Don’t Care If the Economy Stinks 2020 Advantage Lockdown Stocks
  • 18. 7 Market Cap % of S&P500, by Industry
  • 20. Different Buyers at Different Times
  • 22. $100 Million Dollar Pastrami!
  • 24. Today’s Market Valuations Are a) The most expensive we have seen in a long while True, but only if you use single variable analysis b) Pricey, but tolerable Assuming you have a long-term holding period and are prepared to lower your return expectations c) TINAL: Fed made Valuations no longer matter That’s too 1999 for me d) Its complicated In finance this is almost always a winning answer
  • 25. 2 Bubbles: How can you tell? What do you do?
  • 26. Survey question: How Bubblicious is the market today? a) Congratulations! Its a Bubble! b) Pockets of froth + speculation, c) Nothing to worry about — its all good! d) No one can identify a bubble in real time.
  • 27. Most Volatile Year Ever 0% 5% 10% 15% 20% 25% 1 9 5 0 1 9 5 2 1 9 5 4 1 9 5 6 1 9 5 8 1 9 6 0 1 9 6 2 1 9 6 4 1 9 6 6 1 9 6 8 1 9 7 0 1 9 7 2 1 9 7 4 1 9 7 6 1 9 7 8 1 9 8 0 1 9 8 2 1 9 8 4 1 9 8 6 1 9 8 8 1 9 9 0 1 9 9 2 1 9 9 4 1 9 9 6 1 9 9 8 2 0 0 0 2 0 0 2 2 0 0 4 2 0 0 6 2 0 0 8 2 0 1 0 2 0 1 2 2 0 1 4 2 0 1 6 2 0 1 8 2 0 2 0 S&P 500 (30-Day Standard Deviation)
  • 30. It Gets Harder From Here 76% -60% -40% -20% 0% 20% 40% 60% 80% 100% 1 9 5 1 1 9 5 4 1 9 5 7 1 9 6 0 1 9 6 3 1 9 6 6 1 9 6 9 1 9 7 2 1 9 7 5 1 9 7 8 1 9 8 1 1 9 8 4 1 9 8 7 1 9 9 0 1 9 9 3 1 9 9 6 1 9 9 9 2 0 0 2 2 0 0 5 2 0 0 8 2 0 1 1 2 0 1 4 2 0 1 7 2 0 2 0 S&P 500 1-Year Change Source: YCharts
  • 32. Growth and Value Source: Ritholtz Wealth Management, Data via Ycharts (S&P 500) 47% 55% -10% 0% 10% 20% 30% 40% 50% 60% A p r i l - 2 0 M a y - 2 0 J u n e - 2 0 J u l y - 2 0 A u g u s t - 2 0 S e p t e m b e r - 2 0 O c t o b e r - 2 0 N o v e m b e r - 2 0 D e c e m b e r - 2 0 J a n u a r y - 2 1 F e b r u a r y - 2 1 M a r c h - 2 1 1-Year Returns iShares Russell 1000 Value ETF Total Return iShares Russell 1000 Growth ETF Total Return
  • 36. How to Spot a Bubble in Real Time 1995-2000: S&P 500: 25% per year 211% over 5 years Nasdaq 100: 60% per year 946% over 5 years 2015 – 2020 SPX 11.8%/yr 75% over 5 years NDX 17.6%/yr 125% over 5 years
  • 37. How to Spot a Bubble in Real Time 1. Standard Deviations of Valuation 2. Significantly elevated returns 3. Excess leverage 4. New financial products 5. Expansion of Credit 6. Trading Volumes Spike 7. Perverse Incentives 8. Tortured rationalizations 9. Unintended Consequences 10. Employment trends
  • 38. How Bubblicious is the market today? Source: NYFed a) Congratulations! Its a Bubble! Hard to see elements of a bubble b) Pockets of froth + speculation Yes, but there always are c) Nothing to worry about — its all good! Always a wrong answer d) No one can identify a bubble in real time. Indentifying and acting on are two very different things
  • 40. 2 Chairman, Chief Investment Officer, Ritholtz Wealth Management 24 West 40th Street, 15th floor New York, NY 10018 212-625-1200 britholtz3@bloomberg.net Barry L. Ritholtz