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Arguments for
                              the existence
                                     of God


                                  Pocket handbook of
                                Christian Apologetics
                            Peter Kreeft & Ronald Tacelli
Saturday 19 November 2011
Can you actually demonstrate, or
  argue for, the existence of God?
  In Christian apologetics this
  discussion has an important place.
  Kreeft says of those arguing for
  God’s existence,
  “they have also believed that an
  effective rational argument for
  God’s existence is an important
  first step in opening the mind to
  the possibility of faith.”
  These arguments need to be
  thought through by Christians - the
  proofs are helpful in our own lives as
  well as in encountering others who
  have no faith in God.
Saturday 19 November 2011
The argument from efficient causality

  Some things cause other things to
  be - beginning to be or continuing
  to be - e.g. a man playing drums
  causes music to be produced.
  Question: are all things caused to
  exist by other things right now, at
  this moment? If they are then
  imagine if there is no uncaused
  being, no God, then nothing could
  exist. This is because everything
  needs something outside of itself to
  exist.

Saturday 19 November 2011
So even things which are causing other
      things to exist now still need to have been
      caused to exist in the first place - they can
      give being to something only if they have
      been given being.
      On this hypothesis everything that exists
      needs to have been caused to exist.
      But we have a problem - beyond everything
      there is nothing: surely this is silly, everything
      that exists was caused by, an depends on,
      nothing.
      It would appear there must be something
      uncaused, on which all things needing a
      cause are dependent.
Saturday 19 November 2011
Existence is like a gift given from
  cause to effect - if there is no one
  who has the gift it cannot be
  passed on to others.
  If all the class are meant to read a
  book but no one has the book then
  no one will ever get it.
  If there is no God who has
  existence by his own eternal nature
  - then this gift of existence cannot
  be passed on.
  On this argument because we have
  existence, we get our existence
  from somewhere, we argue from
  God, who did not need to receive
  existence.
Saturday 19 November 2011
The Design
         argument

  For many people the beauty and
  order of the world around us
  touches us deep within. But still
  the question has to be asked as
  to whether what we see around
  us is the result of intelligent
  design / conscious purpose?
  There are many different variations
  of this argument - here we shall
  show the main thrust of them.


Saturday 19 November 2011
1. The universes displays great
  intelligibility in what we observe and
  the way these things relate to one
  another - they exist and coexist in
  intricately beautiful order and
  regularity which appears amazing to
  the observer. In nature many
  different things work together to
  produce a valuable end, like all the
  organs in our body working to
  produce life and health.
  2. The intelligent order is either
  produced by chance or intelligent
  design.
Saturday 19 November 2011
3. It cannot be by chance as less
     (or no) order does not produce
     more order.
     4. Therefore the universes is the
     product of intelligent design.
     5. Design only comes from a
     mind, a designer.
     6. Therefore the universe is the
     product of an intelligent designer.



Saturday 19 November 2011
Question: but what if we only think
  there is order, it is a product of our
  minds. Even though we cannot
  think utter chaos and disorder
  maybe that is how things really are.
  Answer: only by our minds do we
  know reality. If we agree something
  cannot exist in thought, we cannot
  go ahead and say that it might exist
  in reality. In effect by doing that we
  would be claiming to be thinking
  what we claim cannot be thought.

Saturday 19 November 2011
The Kalām argument
  The Arabic word Kalām literally means speech but came to
  denote a specific form of philosophical theology - one
  containing demonstrations that the world could not be infinitely
  old and must therefore have been created by God. Christians
  and Muslims appeal to this.




Saturday 19 November 2011
The argument is built on three
  premises:
  1. Whatever begins to exist has a
  cause for its coming into being
  2. The universe began to exist
  3. Therefore, the universe has a
  cause for its coming into being
  Most people accept the first
  premise.
  Premise 2 - did the universe begin
  to exist? Natural science in the Big
  Bang theory supports the idea.
  Philosophical arguments are in
  favour too: can an infinite task ever
  be finished or completed?
Saturday 19 November 2011
If to reach an end you had to take
  an infinite series of steps could you
  ever get there?
  Of course not, not even in infinite
  time.
  If it always was then it is infinitely old
  - and therefore an infinite amount of
  time must have existed before today
  - so an infinite number of days must
  have been completed in order for us
  to arrive at the present time . But,
  this then parallels the idea of an
  infinite task being completed.

Saturday 19 November 2011
The Ontological argument


      Designed by Anselm of Canterbury
      (1033-1109) - an intensely
      philosophical proof for God’s
      existence. It has long been argued
      over.
      1. It is greater for a thing to exist in
      the mind and reality than in mind
      alone.
      2. God means “that than which a
      greater cannot be thought”


Saturday 19 November 2011
3. Suppose God exists in
  the mind but not in reality.
  4. Then a greater than God
  could be thought - one that
  has all the qualities of our
  thought of God and with
  existence too.
  5. But this is impossible for
  God is “that than which a
  greater cannot be thought”
  6. Therefore God exists in
  the mind and reality.


Saturday 19 November 2011
The Moral argument

      1. Real moral obligation is a fact.
      We are really truly obligated to do
      good and avoid evil.
      2. Either the atheistic view of
      reality is correct or the “religious”
      one is
      3. But the atheistic one is
      incompatible with there being a
      moral obligation
      4. Therefore the “religious” view of
      reality is the correct one.

Saturday 19 November 2011
Premise 1 dos not mean that there are
  people who claim they have to perform
  certain duties, or to avoid others, but it
  is claiming that as humans we have to
  perform certain duties because of the
  way things really are not based upon
  desires or the way we feel. It is not the
  belief in moral values that is a fact but
  the moral value itself that is an objective
  fact.
  So if we agree with moral obligation -
  does atheism accord with this fact? No!
  Atheists tell us we are chance products
  of events which are blind to human
  purpose or striving.

Saturday 19 November 2011
So for an atheist we have to ask, in
  what is moral good rooted?
  If moral standards are rooted in
  human will and desire (which
  atheists would argue comes
  arbitrarily due to our evolution) then
  there is no basis for judging these
  desires. There is also no obligation
  to do good of any kind - a desire
  to do good is simply your own and
  not to be imposed upon anyone
  else.
  This really is the basis for moral
  subjectivism.

Saturday 19 November 2011
The argument from Conscience

  Moral subjectivism is common today -
  there are no universally binding moral
  obligations, we simply follow our own
  conscience.
  Is admitting to a conscience a tacit
  confession of believing in God?
  Most people would say you should not
  disobey your own conscience - even if
  it is disagreement with other peoples.
  This makes conscience your moral
  absolute - where does such an idea of
  obeying your conscience come from?

Saturday 19 November 2011
1. From something less than me -
  nature
  2. From me - individual
  3. From others equal to me - society
  4. From something above me - God
  Considering each of these:
  Premise 1:
  How can I be absolutely obligated to
  something less than me- like animal
  instinct or practical survival needs?
  Premise 2:
  Am I absolute? Can I demand
  absolute obedience from anyone? If I
  am absolutely obligated to myself,
  can I choose to let myself out of such
  obligation?
Saturday 19 November 2011
Premise 3:
  What right does society have to obligate me, to impose their
  values on me? Does a certain number of individuals agreeing
  and joining together make it absolute? Is society “God”?
  Premise 4:
  The only real source of absolute authority is something who is
  superior to me - this morally binds me and demands complete
  obedience




Saturday 19 November 2011
Premise 3:
  What right does society have to obligate me, to impose their
  values on me? only a certain number of individuals agreeing
   God is the Does adequate source and ground for
  and joining together make it absolute? Iswhen we need to
   moral obligation which we feel society “God”?
  Premise 4:
      obey our conscience - conscience thus is
  The only real source of absolute authority is something who is
      defined -as the voice of Goddemands soul.
  superior to me this morally binds me and
                                                in our complete
  obedience




Saturday 19 November 2011
The argument from Desire

      1. Every natural, innate desire within us
      corresponds to some real object that
      can satisfy that desire.
      2. But, there exists in us an innate
      desire that nothing in time, nothing on
      earth, no creature can satisfy
      3. Therefore there must exist
      something greater than time, earth,
      creatures that can satisfy this desire.
      4. This something is what people call
      “God” and “life with God forever”
Saturday 19 November 2011
Considering each premise:
  1 - there are 2 kinds of desires, innate
  and externally conditioned, or natural
  and artificial.
  Natural desires - food, sleep, sex,
  friendship, knowledge, beauty - (we
  avoid hunger, loneliness, ugliness, and
  ignorance.) This comes from within
  Artificial - cars, political office,
  superman like powers, Leicester City
  winning the premier league
  These desires are on different levels -
  we do not see deprivation of the
  artificial in the same way as the natural.
  This comes from without - society,
  fiction, advertising etc.
Saturday 19 November 2011
Natural desires are to be found
  in each one of us but the
  artificial ones vary from person
  to person.
  The existence of artificial desires
  does not necessarily mean that
  they exist - sports cars do,
  being like Superman does not.
  With natural desires they do all
  exist - no one has ever found a
  natural desire for a nonexistent
  object.


Saturday 19 November 2011
When we look at premise 2 we can only ask if someone
          really is happy with money or sex or playing games - we
          can ask “Are you really happy with that?” but we cannot
          compel.
          Even the atheist Jean Paul Satre admitted, “there comes
          a time when one asks, even of Shakespeare, even of
          Beethoven, ‘Is that all there is?’”
          CS Lewis sums this up in the following quote:




Saturday 19 November 2011
“The Christian says, 'Creatures are not
  born with desires unless satisfaction for
  those desires exists. A baby feels hunger:
  well, there is such a thing as food. A
  duckling wants to swim: well, there is such
  a thing as water. Men feel sexual desire:
  well, there is such a thing as sex. If I find in
  myself a desire which no experience in this
  world can satisfy, the most probable
  explanation is that I was made for another
  world. If none of my earthly pleasures
  satisfy it, that does not prove that the
  universe is a fraud. Probably earthly
  pleasures were never meant to satisfy it,
  but only to arouse it, to suggest the real
  thing.
Saturday 19 November 2011
If that is so, I must take care, on
  the one hand, never to despise, or
  to be unthankful for, these earthly
  blessings, and on the other, never
  to mistake them for the something
  else of which they are only a kind
  of copy, or echo, or mirage. I must
  keep alive in myself the desire for
  my true country, which I shall not
  find till after death; I must never let
  it get snowed under or turned
  aside; I must make it the main
  object of life to press on to that
  country and to help others to do
  the same.”

Saturday 19 November 2011
The argument from Atheistic experience




         1. There is the music of
         Johann Sebastian Bach
         2. Therefore there must be
         a God
         You either see this one or
         you don’t




Saturday 19 November 2011
Pascal’s Wager
  This is a different type of argument -
  and is not a proof for the existence
  of God but a help for searching for
  God in the absence of such proof.
  Pascal assumed that logical
  reasoning of itself could not prove
  the existence of God - there was
  good reasoning on both sides. So if
  we cannot prove it, and if it is so
  important, then we need to “wager”.
  The question becomes: “Where
  are you going to place your
  bet?”

Saturday 19 November 2011
Pascal’s Wager
  This is a different type of argument -
  and is not a proof for the existence
  of God but a help for searching for
  God in the absence of such proof.
  Pascal assumed that logical
  reasoning of itself could not prove
  the existence of God - there was
  good reasoning on both sides. So if
  we cannot prove it, and if it is so
  important, then we need to “wager”.
  The question becomes: “Where
  are you going to place your
  bet?”

Saturday 19 November 2011
Place it with God - and even if he doesn’t you lose nothing.
  Place it against God - if he does exist, you lose everything.
    The argument is that if you win, you win everything, if
                    you lose, you lose nothing.
  This can seem very selfish, but has been reformulated to apply
  to a higher moral motive: If there is a God of infinite
  goodness, and he justly deserves my allegiance and
  faith, I risk doing the greatest injustice by not
  acknowledging him.
Saturday 19 November 2011
Saturday 19 November 2011
The wager should not coerce belief
  - but can be an incentive to search
  for God - it can motivate the prayer
  of the sceptic:
  “God I don’t know whether you
  exist or not, but if you do, please
  show me who you are.”
  Pascal suggests 3 kinds of people:
  - those who have sought God and
  found him (reasonable and happy)
  - those who are seeking and have
  not yet found (reasonable and
  unhappy)
  - those who neither seek nor find
  (unreasonable and unhappy)

Saturday 19 November 2011
The wager should not coerce belief
       "Ask, and it will be
  - but can be an incentive to search
  for God - to you; seek,prayer
   given it can motivate the and
  of the sceptic:
      you will find; knock,
  “God I don’t know whether you
  exist orit will be opened to
  and not, but if you do, please
  show me who you are.”
   you.suggests 3 kinds of people:
           For everyone who
  Pascal
  - asks receives, and the
    those who have sought God and
     one who seeks finds,
  found him (reasonable and happy)
  - those who are seeking and have
      and to (reasonablewho
  not yet found  the one and
        knocks it will be
  unhappy)
  - those whoopened. nor find
               neither seek
  (unreasonable and unhappy)

Saturday 19 November 2011

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Apologetics: Kreeft Chapter 3 - Existence of God

  • 1. Arguments for the existence of God Pocket handbook of Christian Apologetics Peter Kreeft & Ronald Tacelli Saturday 19 November 2011
  • 2. Can you actually demonstrate, or argue for, the existence of God? In Christian apologetics this discussion has an important place. Kreeft says of those arguing for God’s existence, “they have also believed that an effective rational argument for God’s existence is an important first step in opening the mind to the possibility of faith.” These arguments need to be thought through by Christians - the proofs are helpful in our own lives as well as in encountering others who have no faith in God. Saturday 19 November 2011
  • 3. The argument from efficient causality Some things cause other things to be - beginning to be or continuing to be - e.g. a man playing drums causes music to be produced. Question: are all things caused to exist by other things right now, at this moment? If they are then imagine if there is no uncaused being, no God, then nothing could exist. This is because everything needs something outside of itself to exist. Saturday 19 November 2011
  • 4. So even things which are causing other things to exist now still need to have been caused to exist in the first place - they can give being to something only if they have been given being. On this hypothesis everything that exists needs to have been caused to exist. But we have a problem - beyond everything there is nothing: surely this is silly, everything that exists was caused by, an depends on, nothing. It would appear there must be something uncaused, on which all things needing a cause are dependent. Saturday 19 November 2011
  • 5. Existence is like a gift given from cause to effect - if there is no one who has the gift it cannot be passed on to others. If all the class are meant to read a book but no one has the book then no one will ever get it. If there is no God who has existence by his own eternal nature - then this gift of existence cannot be passed on. On this argument because we have existence, we get our existence from somewhere, we argue from God, who did not need to receive existence. Saturday 19 November 2011
  • 6. The Design argument For many people the beauty and order of the world around us touches us deep within. But still the question has to be asked as to whether what we see around us is the result of intelligent design / conscious purpose? There are many different variations of this argument - here we shall show the main thrust of them. Saturday 19 November 2011
  • 7. 1. The universes displays great intelligibility in what we observe and the way these things relate to one another - they exist and coexist in intricately beautiful order and regularity which appears amazing to the observer. In nature many different things work together to produce a valuable end, like all the organs in our body working to produce life and health. 2. The intelligent order is either produced by chance or intelligent design. Saturday 19 November 2011
  • 8. 3. It cannot be by chance as less (or no) order does not produce more order. 4. Therefore the universes is the product of intelligent design. 5. Design only comes from a mind, a designer. 6. Therefore the universe is the product of an intelligent designer. Saturday 19 November 2011
  • 9. Question: but what if we only think there is order, it is a product of our minds. Even though we cannot think utter chaos and disorder maybe that is how things really are. Answer: only by our minds do we know reality. If we agree something cannot exist in thought, we cannot go ahead and say that it might exist in reality. In effect by doing that we would be claiming to be thinking what we claim cannot be thought. Saturday 19 November 2011
  • 10. The Kalām argument The Arabic word Kalām literally means speech but came to denote a specific form of philosophical theology - one containing demonstrations that the world could not be infinitely old and must therefore have been created by God. Christians and Muslims appeal to this. Saturday 19 November 2011
  • 11. The argument is built on three premises: 1. Whatever begins to exist has a cause for its coming into being 2. The universe began to exist 3. Therefore, the universe has a cause for its coming into being Most people accept the first premise. Premise 2 - did the universe begin to exist? Natural science in the Big Bang theory supports the idea. Philosophical arguments are in favour too: can an infinite task ever be finished or completed? Saturday 19 November 2011
  • 12. If to reach an end you had to take an infinite series of steps could you ever get there? Of course not, not even in infinite time. If it always was then it is infinitely old - and therefore an infinite amount of time must have existed before today - so an infinite number of days must have been completed in order for us to arrive at the present time . But, this then parallels the idea of an infinite task being completed. Saturday 19 November 2011
  • 13. The Ontological argument Designed by Anselm of Canterbury (1033-1109) - an intensely philosophical proof for God’s existence. It has long been argued over. 1. It is greater for a thing to exist in the mind and reality than in mind alone. 2. God means “that than which a greater cannot be thought” Saturday 19 November 2011
  • 14. 3. Suppose God exists in the mind but not in reality. 4. Then a greater than God could be thought - one that has all the qualities of our thought of God and with existence too. 5. But this is impossible for God is “that than which a greater cannot be thought” 6. Therefore God exists in the mind and reality. Saturday 19 November 2011
  • 15. The Moral argument 1. Real moral obligation is a fact. We are really truly obligated to do good and avoid evil. 2. Either the atheistic view of reality is correct or the “religious” one is 3. But the atheistic one is incompatible with there being a moral obligation 4. Therefore the “religious” view of reality is the correct one. Saturday 19 November 2011
  • 16. Premise 1 dos not mean that there are people who claim they have to perform certain duties, or to avoid others, but it is claiming that as humans we have to perform certain duties because of the way things really are not based upon desires or the way we feel. It is not the belief in moral values that is a fact but the moral value itself that is an objective fact. So if we agree with moral obligation - does atheism accord with this fact? No! Atheists tell us we are chance products of events which are blind to human purpose or striving. Saturday 19 November 2011
  • 17. So for an atheist we have to ask, in what is moral good rooted? If moral standards are rooted in human will and desire (which atheists would argue comes arbitrarily due to our evolution) then there is no basis for judging these desires. There is also no obligation to do good of any kind - a desire to do good is simply your own and not to be imposed upon anyone else. This really is the basis for moral subjectivism. Saturday 19 November 2011
  • 18. The argument from Conscience Moral subjectivism is common today - there are no universally binding moral obligations, we simply follow our own conscience. Is admitting to a conscience a tacit confession of believing in God? Most people would say you should not disobey your own conscience - even if it is disagreement with other peoples. This makes conscience your moral absolute - where does such an idea of obeying your conscience come from? Saturday 19 November 2011
  • 19. 1. From something less than me - nature 2. From me - individual 3. From others equal to me - society 4. From something above me - God Considering each of these: Premise 1: How can I be absolutely obligated to something less than me- like animal instinct or practical survival needs? Premise 2: Am I absolute? Can I demand absolute obedience from anyone? If I am absolutely obligated to myself, can I choose to let myself out of such obligation? Saturday 19 November 2011
  • 20. Premise 3: What right does society have to obligate me, to impose their values on me? Does a certain number of individuals agreeing and joining together make it absolute? Is society “God”? Premise 4: The only real source of absolute authority is something who is superior to me - this morally binds me and demands complete obedience Saturday 19 November 2011
  • 21. Premise 3: What right does society have to obligate me, to impose their values on me? only a certain number of individuals agreeing God is the Does adequate source and ground for and joining together make it absolute? Iswhen we need to moral obligation which we feel society “God”? Premise 4: obey our conscience - conscience thus is The only real source of absolute authority is something who is defined -as the voice of Goddemands soul. superior to me this morally binds me and in our complete obedience Saturday 19 November 2011
  • 22. The argument from Desire 1. Every natural, innate desire within us corresponds to some real object that can satisfy that desire. 2. But, there exists in us an innate desire that nothing in time, nothing on earth, no creature can satisfy 3. Therefore there must exist something greater than time, earth, creatures that can satisfy this desire. 4. This something is what people call “God” and “life with God forever” Saturday 19 November 2011
  • 23. Considering each premise: 1 - there are 2 kinds of desires, innate and externally conditioned, or natural and artificial. Natural desires - food, sleep, sex, friendship, knowledge, beauty - (we avoid hunger, loneliness, ugliness, and ignorance.) This comes from within Artificial - cars, political office, superman like powers, Leicester City winning the premier league These desires are on different levels - we do not see deprivation of the artificial in the same way as the natural. This comes from without - society, fiction, advertising etc. Saturday 19 November 2011
  • 24. Natural desires are to be found in each one of us but the artificial ones vary from person to person. The existence of artificial desires does not necessarily mean that they exist - sports cars do, being like Superman does not. With natural desires they do all exist - no one has ever found a natural desire for a nonexistent object. Saturday 19 November 2011
  • 25. When we look at premise 2 we can only ask if someone really is happy with money or sex or playing games - we can ask “Are you really happy with that?” but we cannot compel. Even the atheist Jean Paul Satre admitted, “there comes a time when one asks, even of Shakespeare, even of Beethoven, ‘Is that all there is?’” CS Lewis sums this up in the following quote: Saturday 19 November 2011
  • 26. “The Christian says, 'Creatures are not born with desires unless satisfaction for those desires exists. A baby feels hunger: well, there is such a thing as food. A duckling wants to swim: well, there is such a thing as water. Men feel sexual desire: well, there is such a thing as sex. If I find in myself a desire which no experience in this world can satisfy, the most probable explanation is that I was made for another world. If none of my earthly pleasures satisfy it, that does not prove that the universe is a fraud. Probably earthly pleasures were never meant to satisfy it, but only to arouse it, to suggest the real thing. Saturday 19 November 2011
  • 27. If that is so, I must take care, on the one hand, never to despise, or to be unthankful for, these earthly blessings, and on the other, never to mistake them for the something else of which they are only a kind of copy, or echo, or mirage. I must keep alive in myself the desire for my true country, which I shall not find till after death; I must never let it get snowed under or turned aside; I must make it the main object of life to press on to that country and to help others to do the same.” Saturday 19 November 2011
  • 28. The argument from Atheistic experience 1. There is the music of Johann Sebastian Bach 2. Therefore there must be a God You either see this one or you don’t Saturday 19 November 2011
  • 29. Pascal’s Wager This is a different type of argument - and is not a proof for the existence of God but a help for searching for God in the absence of such proof. Pascal assumed that logical reasoning of itself could not prove the existence of God - there was good reasoning on both sides. So if we cannot prove it, and if it is so important, then we need to “wager”. The question becomes: “Where are you going to place your bet?” Saturday 19 November 2011
  • 30. Pascal’s Wager This is a different type of argument - and is not a proof for the existence of God but a help for searching for God in the absence of such proof. Pascal assumed that logical reasoning of itself could not prove the existence of God - there was good reasoning on both sides. So if we cannot prove it, and if it is so important, then we need to “wager”. The question becomes: “Where are you going to place your bet?” Saturday 19 November 2011
  • 31. Place it with God - and even if he doesn’t you lose nothing. Place it against God - if he does exist, you lose everything. The argument is that if you win, you win everything, if you lose, you lose nothing. This can seem very selfish, but has been reformulated to apply to a higher moral motive: If there is a God of infinite goodness, and he justly deserves my allegiance and faith, I risk doing the greatest injustice by not acknowledging him. Saturday 19 November 2011
  • 33. The wager should not coerce belief - but can be an incentive to search for God - it can motivate the prayer of the sceptic: “God I don’t know whether you exist or not, but if you do, please show me who you are.” Pascal suggests 3 kinds of people: - those who have sought God and found him (reasonable and happy) - those who are seeking and have not yet found (reasonable and unhappy) - those who neither seek nor find (unreasonable and unhappy) Saturday 19 November 2011
  • 34. The wager should not coerce belief "Ask, and it will be - but can be an incentive to search for God - to you; seek,prayer given it can motivate the and of the sceptic: you will find; knock, “God I don’t know whether you exist orit will be opened to and not, but if you do, please show me who you are.” you.suggests 3 kinds of people: For everyone who Pascal - asks receives, and the those who have sought God and one who seeks finds, found him (reasonable and happy) - those who are seeking and have and to (reasonablewho not yet found the one and knocks it will be unhappy) - those whoopened. nor find neither seek (unreasonable and unhappy) Saturday 19 November 2011