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      06.19.12  www.bloombergbriefs.com	                                                         Bloomberg Brief | Hedge Funds                   12



    Spotlight
    QuantZ Capital’s Milind Sharma on Applying a ‘Macro Overlay’ to Quantitative Investing
                                                       a slow, gradual thing?                            in the higher order effects, namely what
    Milind Sharma, CEO of New York-based               A: We’re really betting on the second             does that do to vol and dispersion and
    QuantZ Capital Management Ltd., spoke              order effects. Regardless of whether you          stock correlation and all those things.
    to Bloomberg’s Nathaniel Baker about his           have the big event or not, it’s going to be       The macro stuff translates directly into
    views on the global macro picture and how                                                            the fact that in the last couple of years
                                                       a big unwind because there’s no ways to
    these are incorporated into his hedge fund’s                                                         you’ve seen record high stock correla-
    strategy.                                          get rid of the debt instantaneously. The
                                                       real issue near term is whether Angela            tion. That makes it very difficult for a
                                                       Merkel and Europe can take a page                 fundamental, bottom-up stock picker to
    Q: Your fund was in the top 3 percent in           out of our history book from Alexander            outperform. The other issue is that when
    the Bloomberg database last year and               Hamilton’s experience and apply it to Eu-         you’re in a sideways to downward bear
    recently won the Battle of the Quants.             rope. Even if they do, it’s difficult to see      market, the typical long/short process
    What’s the strategy, exactly?                      how the world can magically heal itself.          doesn’t work well. Because most long/
                                                       Because we’re still looking at a potential        short funds are essentially levered beta
    A: We’re ‘quantamental,’ which means
                                                       hard-landing scenario in China, India’s           riders. They see a rally, they load up and
    a hybrid of quantitative-driven on the
                                                       not in great shape with inflation, the            jump on. Not to mention that with the
    securities selection side with some macro
                                                       Japanese have plenty of their own debt            pressure on expert networks and Reg
    adjustment/macro overlay, if you will.
                                                       to worry about and are only 23 years into         FD it’s gotten much harder for many of
                                                       their bear market, and we’re 13 years into        these managers to do what they used
    Q: Quantamental. I like that. How does
                                                       ours. We see the ‘lost decade’ in stocks          to do. Plus, with the relative volume in
    the macro overlay work?
                                                       – not the one that just happened, but             ETFs rising dramatically, you’ve got an
    A: It’s taking our house view and                                                                    environment where a process-driven
                                                       the one that’s likely to come – to act like
    combining it with a regime-switching ap-                                                             strategy can tweak the right levers to
                                                       a dampened oscillator. This means that
    proach. Basically forecasting probabili-                                                             take advantage of these issues.
                                                       each successive episode of quantitative
    ties, which then drive the portfolio tilt
                                                       easing will be less and less effective. As
    and overall portfolio orientation. There’s                                                           Q: Isn’t there a lot of upwards/down-
                                                       an example, this is the third year in a row
    a lot of moving parts.                                                                               wards/sideways movement as we go
                                                       that we’ve seen a very serious déjà-vu
                                                       script playing out; you get a very strong         along here?
    Q: So what are your macro views then?
                                                       first quarter, market peaks in April or           A: Exactly. In general, one should expect
    A: We sound like a broken record in                May, then you get a summer swoon. For             much higher volatility and correlation in
    terms of our perma-bearish outlook but             the third year in a row we’ve been justi-         these bear market cycles. That’s some-
    that’s because frankly we see either a             fied in being cautious that once the sugar        thing a quant process can take advantage
    ‘checkmate’ or a ‘stalemate.’ We don’t             high of quantitative easing wears off, the        of. We for instance are always implicitly
    see any great scenarios that can come              same script plays out. What I’m saying is         long vol/long dispersion. But we can
    out of this massive deleveraging cycle.            that at some point you’re going to have           choose to be long correlation/short cor-
    We’re in the camp of this being a great            an episode of QE perceived not as a               relation by tweaking our ratio bets on
    stagnation/deflationary bust or secular            license to melt up, but as sheer despera-         idiosyncratic versus common factor risk.
    bear market.                                       tion on part of the Fed.
                                                                                                         Q: I think you just lost me.
    Q: What are your big concerns? It                  Q: How are these views translated into            A: It’s very difficult for fundamental man-
    sounds like this goes beyond Greece                your strategy exactly? How does that              agers to even measure their idiosyncratic
    and European sovereign debt?                       mechanism work?                                   versus common factor levels, much less
    A: That’s right. All of the above plus of          A: As I mentioned we’re more interested           take advantage of that.
    course the domestic issues: your fiscal
    cliff, the $46 trillion of unfunded liabilities,
    trying to solve the debt overhang with
    more debt and the possibility of a disor-
                                                                          Age: 40
    derly default or disorderly decline in one
    of the major reserve currencies. At the                               College/University/Grad School(s): Oxford, Vassar, Carnegie Mellon, Wharton
    end of the day, we believe that enough                                Professional Background: MLIM, ran proprietary stat arb portfolios at RBC
    cans have been kicked down enough
    roads in enough countries that some-                                  and Deutsche Bank AG, the latter under Boaz Weinstein.
    thing’s got to give at some point soon.                               Mentors: Boaz Weinstein; Bob Doll, vice chairman of BlackRock.

    Q: Will this be a big event or more like                              Charitable Work: Ti Kay Haiti (www.tikayhaiti.org)



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Quant Z Bbg Interview

  • 1. This document is being provided for the exclusive use of <milind.sharma@quantzcap.com>  06.19.12  www.bloombergbriefs.com Bloomberg Brief | Hedge Funds 12 Spotlight QuantZ Capital’s Milind Sharma on Applying a ‘Macro Overlay’ to Quantitative Investing a slow, gradual thing? in the higher order effects, namely what Milind Sharma, CEO of New York-based A: We’re really betting on the second does that do to vol and dispersion and QuantZ Capital Management Ltd., spoke order effects. Regardless of whether you stock correlation and all those things. to Bloomberg’s Nathaniel Baker about his have the big event or not, it’s going to be The macro stuff translates directly into views on the global macro picture and how the fact that in the last couple of years a big unwind because there’s no ways to these are incorporated into his hedge fund’s you’ve seen record high stock correla- strategy. get rid of the debt instantaneously. The real issue near term is whether Angela tion. That makes it very difficult for a Merkel and Europe can take a page fundamental, bottom-up stock picker to Q: Your fund was in the top 3 percent in out of our history book from Alexander outperform. The other issue is that when the Bloomberg database last year and Hamilton’s experience and apply it to Eu- you’re in a sideways to downward bear recently won the Battle of the Quants. rope. Even if they do, it’s difficult to see market, the typical long/short process What’s the strategy, exactly? how the world can magically heal itself. doesn’t work well. Because most long/ Because we’re still looking at a potential short funds are essentially levered beta A: We’re ‘quantamental,’ which means hard-landing scenario in China, India’s riders. They see a rally, they load up and a hybrid of quantitative-driven on the not in great shape with inflation, the jump on. Not to mention that with the securities selection side with some macro Japanese have plenty of their own debt pressure on expert networks and Reg adjustment/macro overlay, if you will. to worry about and are only 23 years into FD it’s gotten much harder for many of their bear market, and we’re 13 years into these managers to do what they used Q: Quantamental. I like that. How does ours. We see the ‘lost decade’ in stocks to do. Plus, with the relative volume in the macro overlay work? – not the one that just happened, but ETFs rising dramatically, you’ve got an A: It’s taking our house view and environment where a process-driven the one that’s likely to come – to act like combining it with a regime-switching ap- strategy can tweak the right levers to a dampened oscillator. This means that proach. Basically forecasting probabili- take advantage of these issues. each successive episode of quantitative ties, which then drive the portfolio tilt easing will be less and less effective. As and overall portfolio orientation. There’s Q: Isn’t there a lot of upwards/down- an example, this is the third year in a row a lot of moving parts. wards/sideways movement as we go that we’ve seen a very serious déjà-vu script playing out; you get a very strong along here? Q: So what are your macro views then? first quarter, market peaks in April or A: Exactly. In general, one should expect A: We sound like a broken record in May, then you get a summer swoon. For much higher volatility and correlation in terms of our perma-bearish outlook but the third year in a row we’ve been justi- these bear market cycles. That’s some- that’s because frankly we see either a fied in being cautious that once the sugar thing a quant process can take advantage ‘checkmate’ or a ‘stalemate.’ We don’t high of quantitative easing wears off, the of. We for instance are always implicitly see any great scenarios that can come same script plays out. What I’m saying is long vol/long dispersion. But we can out of this massive deleveraging cycle. that at some point you’re going to have choose to be long correlation/short cor- We’re in the camp of this being a great an episode of QE perceived not as a relation by tweaking our ratio bets on stagnation/deflationary bust or secular license to melt up, but as sheer despera- idiosyncratic versus common factor risk. bear market. tion on part of the Fed. Q: I think you just lost me. Q: What are your big concerns? It Q: How are these views translated into A: It’s very difficult for fundamental man- sounds like this goes beyond Greece your strategy exactly? How does that agers to even measure their idiosyncratic and European sovereign debt? mechanism work? versus common factor levels, much less A: That’s right. All of the above plus of A: As I mentioned we’re more interested take advantage of that. course the domestic issues: your fiscal cliff, the $46 trillion of unfunded liabilities, trying to solve the debt overhang with more debt and the possibility of a disor- Age: 40 derly default or disorderly decline in one of the major reserve currencies. At the College/University/Grad School(s): Oxford, Vassar, Carnegie Mellon, Wharton end of the day, we believe that enough Professional Background: MLIM, ran proprietary stat arb portfolios at RBC cans have been kicked down enough roads in enough countries that some- and Deutsche Bank AG, the latter under Boaz Weinstein. thing’s got to give at some point soon. Mentors: Boaz Weinstein; Bob Doll, vice chairman of BlackRock. Q: Will this be a big event or more like Charitable Work: Ti Kay Haiti (www.tikayhaiti.org)  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12