Dr. Steve Knobloch, Chief Learning Officer at K12 Insight, is the guest on the first episode of the Behind The Numbers podcast. The podcast aims to uncover guests' key numbers and insights into their success. Dr. Knobloch discusses how the numbers 2, 3, and 4 represent important concepts - two points are needed to get from A to B, three legs provide stability, and four people means no one is left out. He also offers advice on proving data makes a difference, measuring growth, and generating energy from physical activity.

1. We’re kicking off our brand
new podcast with special
guest Dr. Steve Knobloch,
Chief Learning Officer at K12
Insight. Tune in!
Behind The
Numbers
Podcast:
Episode 1 by Melissa Krut

2. Welcome to Behind The Numbers!
In each episode, we’ll talk with a new guest and
uncover a few of their key numbers, as well as
some insights into their success.

3. First, the numbers.
Then, the questions.

4. Dr. Knobloch’s numbers:
2

5. Number 2 is powerful…
To get from point A to point B, you need two points.
Pairing often improves: A food and a wine, a man
and his spouse – a yin and yang balance that
complements each.
Uncovering details that agree with our beliefs
reinforces those beliefs.
Two: Better together.

6. Number 3 is stable…
Consider a stool with three legs, rather than two.
Two may start a comparison, but three begins a
trend.
A new point can triangulate the data and improve
the quality of your analysis – and your confidence
in its accuracy.
Three: Stability.

7. Number 4 is collaborative.
With people, a group of four means no one’s left
out and anyone can join the conversation.
With data, a fourth data point offers a much more
holistic approach to analysis and a better
understanding of the information.
Four: More.

8. Skipped one?
It’s a lonely number…
Get out of your own head!

9. Q & A

10. 1. Prove that data makes a
difference.
Know that data can prove winning or losing. When
you look at perception data, quantifying it or
qualifying it, you need to make sure to get multiple
sets of data to really begin proving something.
So remember, with data, points are easier to prove.

11. 2. How is it growing?
Growing implies you know where you are and you
know where you want to be.
The challenge with growth is that you need a unit
of measure to show you that you are growing.
In business, revenue define growth.
The more measures of data you have to define
what it is that you’re doing, the more likely you can
measure growth.

12. What’s the best way to measure growth?
In business, revenues define growth.
There must be different measures of growth in
different situations… whether it’s personal growth,
mental health, physical health, spiritual health.

13. 3. What answer would you like to
uncover?
How to help people balance emotion and intellect.
It’s a challenge for many to self-regulate an
imbalance in intellect and emotion… but that will
be the unanswered question.

14. 4. What do you want to build that
the market hasn’t seen yet?
Energy! We all carry multiple devices, and often
they simply run out of charge.
What about a new way to generate energy as you
work?
Perhaps energy generated while typing on a laptop
could be used to charge a phone!

15. 5. What is the best advice that
you’ve ever given or you’ve ever
received?
“Never do more work than your students.”
Teaching your students about self-reliability will
take them a long way.
Once they know what they’re capable of, this
lesson will apply to other aspects of life far beyond
the classroom.

16. Closing thoughts?
It’s great when people look at quantifying things. At
the end of the day, many of us make decisions
based on seeing success measures, so unpacking
that notion is very important.

17. Want to get the full story? Listen to the complete
podcast here:
Behind the Numbers – Episode 1

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