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Where is the ROI?
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Where	
  is	
  the	
  ROI?	
  
Justifying	
  a	
  Renewal	
  or	
  Upsell	
  Using	
  
Actual	
  Customer	
  Usage	
  Data
VP	
  Customer	
  Success
Ariel	
  Utnik
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About Panaya & Me
About Panaya:
• Panaya is the market leader in
change analytic and cloud-based software
testing, tailored for ERP.
• Acquired by InfoSys for $230M
About me:
• In love with the Customer Success mission,
with special focus on churn reduction and
prevention
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Build	
  more	
  value	
  faster	
  for	
  
your	
  company	
  and	
  ours—
and	
  we	
  can	
  prove	
  it.
The Mission of a Customer Success Team
PANAYA
“
“Customer	
  success	
  association
http://www.customersuccessassociation.com/definition-­‐customer-­‐success-­‐management/
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Have you heard from your
customers that the tool costs
too much vs the value they
get?
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Are you able to justify
renewal price increase or
upsell for customers that are
“heavily” using your system?
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Do you have any idea what is
the $ saving your customer
gets from your tool?
Are you able to prove it?
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So	
  how	
  can	
  we	
  prove	
  it?
Show	
  me	
  the	
  money..
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1. Build a post usage ROI tool
2. Validate the tool
3. Update your customer journey to collect
relevant data for the post ROI
4. Manage the post usage ROI meeting
The steps for your own post usage ROI
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• Start with your pre-sale ROI tool
Remember the promise and language…
• Think from the customer ROI meeting backward
What points you want to make
What story do you want to tell
• Quantify the saving per activity / event
Refer to activities that customer understand and value
• Use industry standard, cost surveys and past experience
Use reference that customer accepts and trusts
Build a post usage ROI tool
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• Build the calculation based on formulas with simple
ability to update the parameters
Parameters may be different for every customer
• Generate the data from your application / totango
Is your customer aware of their level of usage?
• Don’t overshoot, customer should trust this ROI after
he understands the details
Data must be trusted
Build a post usage ROI tool
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• Start with your organization
CSM, Sales, Product must buy it first
• Industry peer validation
e.g. VP Global business application from Ness
• Customers validation
“The Fact Sheet with the numbers in front of my eyes are a very good picture”
“This is a proof that indeed we’re having benefits using your tool”
“This is encouraging… This brings us to focus more on testing”
• Is a CFO convinced to buy the product when he gets
this data?
Numbers must talk
Validate the tool
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• Collect the data from day 1
Highest customer attention is during the onboarding
• Incorporate those parameters into your customer
journey process
There is no “post usage ROI” step in your onboarding
Collect data from customers
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• Make it simple, talk in savings ($, Hr, Mo to ROI)
Must be based on the customer KPIs
• Define in advance what is the desired outcome of
the meeting (renewal? Upsell?)
This will dictate your meeting strategy
• Make sure your champion is involved and aligned
with the ROI preparation
The best you can ask for is that the champion will present part of it
• A good meeting should be with the executive sponsor
and the champion
Don’t hold the meeting with the wrong audience
Manage the post usage ROI meeting
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• Don’t get into the details if not needed
Less is more
• Better to use excel format and not fancy
presentations
Keep the engineering look and feel
• Before you leave the room confirm your desired
outcome
A.B.C – Always Be Closing
Manage the post usage ROI meeting
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Summary
“
PANAYA
Customer	
  Success	
  -­‐ build	
  value	
  fast,	
  and	
  
prove	
  it!
Prove	
  it	
  in	
  a	
  way	
  the	
  customer	
  can	
  quantify	
  
and	
  understand
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Where is the ROI? Justifying a Renewal or Upsell Using Actual Customer Usage Data

  • 2. ©  Panaya    |    An  Infosys  Company PANAYA2 ©  Panaya    |    An  Infosys  company PANAYA2 ©  Panaya    |    An  Infosys company Where  is  the  ROI?   Justifying  a  Renewal  or  Upsell  Using   Actual  Customer  Usage  Data VP  Customer  Success Ariel  Utnik
  • 3. ©  Panaya    |    An  Infosys  Company PANAYA About Panaya & Me About Panaya: • Panaya is the market leader in change analytic and cloud-based software testing, tailored for ERP. • Acquired by InfoSys for $230M About me: • In love with the Customer Success mission, with special focus on churn reduction and prevention
  • 4. ©  Panaya    |    An  Infosys  Company PANAYA4 Build  more  value  faster  for   your  company  and  ours— and  we  can  prove  it. The Mission of a Customer Success Team PANAYA “ “Customer  success  association http://www.customersuccessassociation.com/definition-­‐customer-­‐success-­‐management/
  • 5. ©  Panaya    |    An  Infosys  Company PANAYA5 Have you heard from your customers that the tool costs too much vs the value they get?
  • 6. ©  Panaya    |    An  Infosys  Company PANAYA6 Are you able to justify renewal price increase or upsell for customers that are “heavily” using your system?
  • 7. ©  Panaya    |    An  Infosys  Company PANAYA7 Do you have any idea what is the $ saving your customer gets from your tool? Are you able to prove it?
  • 8. ©  Panaya    |    An  Infosys  Company PANAYA8 So  how  can  we  prove  it? Show  me  the  money..
  • 9. ©  Panaya    |    An  Infosys  Company PANAYA9 1. Build a post usage ROI tool 2. Validate the tool 3. Update your customer journey to collect relevant data for the post ROI 4. Manage the post usage ROI meeting The steps for your own post usage ROI
  • 10. ©  Panaya    |    An  Infosys  Company PANAYA10 • Start with your pre-sale ROI tool Remember the promise and language… • Think from the customer ROI meeting backward What points you want to make What story do you want to tell • Quantify the saving per activity / event Refer to activities that customer understand and value • Use industry standard, cost surveys and past experience Use reference that customer accepts and trusts Build a post usage ROI tool
  • 11. ©  Panaya    |    An  Infosys  Company PANAYA11 • Build the calculation based on formulas with simple ability to update the parameters Parameters may be different for every customer • Generate the data from your application / totango Is your customer aware of their level of usage? • Don’t overshoot, customer should trust this ROI after he understands the details Data must be trusted Build a post usage ROI tool
  • 12. ©  Panaya    |    An  Infosys  Company PANAYA12 • Start with your organization CSM, Sales, Product must buy it first • Industry peer validation e.g. VP Global business application from Ness • Customers validation “The Fact Sheet with the numbers in front of my eyes are a very good picture” “This is a proof that indeed we’re having benefits using your tool” “This is encouraging… This brings us to focus more on testing” • Is a CFO convinced to buy the product when he gets this data? Numbers must talk Validate the tool
  • 13. ©  Panaya    |    An  Infosys  Company PANAYA13 • Collect the data from day 1 Highest customer attention is during the onboarding • Incorporate those parameters into your customer journey process There is no “post usage ROI” step in your onboarding Collect data from customers
  • 14. ©  Panaya    |    An  Infosys  Company PANAYA14 • Make it simple, talk in savings ($, Hr, Mo to ROI) Must be based on the customer KPIs • Define in advance what is the desired outcome of the meeting (renewal? Upsell?) This will dictate your meeting strategy • Make sure your champion is involved and aligned with the ROI preparation The best you can ask for is that the champion will present part of it • A good meeting should be with the executive sponsor and the champion Don’t hold the meeting with the wrong audience Manage the post usage ROI meeting
  • 15. ©  Panaya    |    An  Infosys  Company PANAYA15 • Don’t get into the details if not needed Less is more • Better to use excel format and not fancy presentations Keep the engineering look and feel • Before you leave the room confirm your desired outcome A.B.C – Always Be Closing Manage the post usage ROI meeting
  • 16. ©  Panaya    |    An  Infosys  Company PANAYA16
  • 17. ©  Panaya    |    An  Infosys  Company PANAYA17 Summary “ PANAYA Customer  Success  -­‐ build  value  fast,  and   prove  it! Prove  it  in  a  way  the  customer  can  quantify   and  understand
  • 18. ©  Panaya    |    An  Infosys  Company PANAYA PANAYA WORKSHOP 18 Questions?